| Me personally, I've never really been an astrology kind of girl. Sure, I may read something about some random zodiac sign every now and then, but for the most part, I just like to read horoscopes for fun. Nothing serious, really. I first learned about horoscopes when I was 13 years old, and I discovered that I was a cancer, according to the zodiac. I gotta say, I do fit some cancer traits. For example, I'm a very moody, emotional person, and I'm also creative. 13 year old me didn't really think anyone would give too many damns about their astrological sign, let alone judge other people based on their sign. And as far as dating and relationships go, I could honestly care less about one's sign. You can be a leo, gemini, pisces, scorpio, I don't care. |
chocovelvetcakeDec 26, 2023 3:33 PM
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| Mere zodiacs and goofy vague horoscopes isnt really a good representation of astrology. Astrology is more about natal charts and transit charts and compatibility charts. There also is a medical version the ancient Greeks used but I am unfamiliar with it. It is ridiculously detailed in methodology and difficult to remember everything and do a reading. Haven't really had time to examine it in depth to personally assess it because of this. |
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Mere zodiacs and goofy vague horoscopes isnt really a good representation of astrology. Astrology is more about natal charts and transit charts and compatibility charts. There also is a medical version the ancient Greeks used but I am unfamiliar with it. It is ridiculously detailed in methodology and difficult to remember everything and do a reading. Haven't really had time to examine it in depth to personally assess it because of this.
| @traed Yeah, I probably should've worded this thread's title a bit better, but I didn't really know how to word it, so sorry if it sounds kinda gibberish. |
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@traed
Yeah, I probably should've worded this thread's title a bit better, but I didn't really know how to word it, so sorry if it sounds kinda gibberish.
Yeah, I probably should've worded this thread's title a bit better, but I didn't really know how to word it, so sorry if it sounds kinda gibberish.
| @chocovelvetcake There is even more to it. Some people born on the last or first day of a solar sign might actually have a different one than they think they have because it doesnt actually switch at midnight it goes by the solstices and equinoxes in Western astrology. Also the system they use in India uses real star positions so when you look at that system a person may have a different sign in that as well. |
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| Astrology is totally dumb. And they don't even have Ophiuchus as a zodiac... |
| It's the same mumbo jumbo, like, the Martians, Loch Ness Monster, witchcraft, Nostradamus and his prophecies, etc. :/ |
SerafosDec 26, 2023 2:15 AM
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| 99% of what you see isn't Vedic. Vedic is the only type that matters. If you wish to learn actual western astrology check out renaissanceastrology.com for traditional theory and practice. Gave you heard of Sal Biadora? he has a youtube channel, "eat, pray love". he does vedic astrology. my only favorite non-indian vedic astrologer. Anyone want Vedic astrology reading? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hjyotish.com/&ved=2ahUKEwjH04nC4qj6AhVDzYsBHY7sAN8QFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1gear3PEqjC0UpA9PkjGkI |
vasipi4946Dec 26, 2023 3:09 AM
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart! |
| Here are some more useful links. http://astro.cafeastrology.com/natal.php (Natal Astrology) http://vaultoftheheavens.com/VOTH_ChartCreator/Welcome.aspx (Vedic Astrology) https://lawoftime.org/decode/ ("Mayan" Astrology) |
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart! |
| From this pasdage i can clarify that u are real girl since ur statement always contradiction with ur futher explanation lol thats why u shouldnt write about I could honestly care less about one's sign. You can be a leo, gemini, pisces, scorpio, I don't care. since remember about several of ignored zoodiac showed ur curiosity about this astrological sign For me i havent clue about of since every star on the sky always looked same from various persfective lmaooo |
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| I don't believe in it. For a while me and my friends even had a joke where we'd loom at our horoscopes and see just how vague they were or how poorly they ended up fitting. It's pretty harmless in terms of snake oil stuff though, at least compared to £10 magical stones that help deal with whatever deep mental or life problems you have |
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@vasipi4946 Are you really into vedic?! That's curious!
| @My-T I know it's actually called jyotish and the charts look different from ones used in tropical astrology. I also know the moon has more significance in it than in tropical astrology if i recall correctly. |
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I don't believe in it. For a while me and my friends even had a joke where we'd loom at our horoscopes and see just how vague they were or how poorly they ended up fitting. It's pretty harmless in terms of snake oil stuff though, at least compared to £10 magical stones that help deal with whatever deep mental or life problems you have
| @Epiccgaymer I don't believe in astrology, either. Horoscopes are pretty much meaningless to me. They're as meaningless as those online personality tests. In my opinion, if anyone just so happens to fit any of their sign's traits, it's just purely coincidencial. |
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| Zodiac/horoscopes are bs. Can say for sure bc I don't fit Scorpio descriptions whatsoever. Some people say it's the same thing as personality tests, but I disagree as they're fundamentally different. Zodiac/horoscopes prescribe characteristics/personality based on some external parameter (e.g. timing of birth, celestial body locations). Personality theories/tests work in the opposite direction - they don't tell you what traits you have. You are "telling" them what traits you have, and personality theories outline some underlying principles or trends. Personality theories are not meant to box people in. They're akin to IQ tests, in that they can provide insight into the specific areas they are targeting; they should not be applied out of context. |
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| I've come to the conclusion that people who live with electric lighting probably don't know jack shit about the stars. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
Reply to chocovelvetcake
@Epiccgaymer
I don't believe in astrology, either. Horoscopes are pretty much meaningless to me. They're as meaningless as those online personality tests. In my opinion, if anyone just so happens to fit any of their sign's traits, it's just purely coincidencial.
I don't believe in astrology, either. Horoscopes are pretty much meaningless to me. They're as meaningless as those online personality tests. In my opinion, if anyone just so happens to fit any of their sign's traits, it's just purely coincidencial.
| @chocovelvetcake It's because they're usually vague enough so that they can cast a wide net of people and events under it. Sometimes it won't line up, as it often didn't for me, but generally, they're something like "Look out for opportunities this week" or "You're a kind and caring person" that most people can interpret to fit themselves. |
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Zodiac/horoscopes are bs. Can say for sure bc I don't fit Scorpio descriptions whatsoever.
Some people say it's the same thing as personality tests, but I disagree as they're fundamentally different. Zodiac/horoscopes prescribe characteristics/personality based on some external parameter (e.g. timing of birth, celestial body locations). Personality theories/tests work in the opposite direction - they don't tell you what traits you have. You are "telling" them what traits you have, and personality theories outline some underlying principles or trends.
Personality theories are not meant to box people in. They're akin to IQ tests, in that they can provide insight into the specific areas they are targeting; they should not be applied out of context.
Some people say it's the same thing as personality tests, but I disagree as they're fundamentally different. Zodiac/horoscopes prescribe characteristics/personality based on some external parameter (e.g. timing of birth, celestial body locations). Personality theories/tests work in the opposite direction - they don't tell you what traits you have. You are "telling" them what traits you have, and personality theories outline some underlying principles or trends.
Personality theories are not meant to box people in. They're akin to IQ tests, in that they can provide insight into the specific areas they are targeting; they should not be applied out of context.
| Zodiac/horoscopes don't really make sense to me. How the hell do our star signs determine our core personalities, sense of selves, basic preferences, and romantic compatibilities? Like what does me being a Cancer have to do with my overall personality? Some people fit little to no descriptions of their signs whatsoever, and those descriptions can apply to just about anybody, regardless of their sign. |
chocovelvetcakeDec 27, 2023 4:06 AM
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Zodiac/horoscopes don't really make sense to me. How the hell do our star signs determine our core personalities, sense of selves, basic preferences, and romantic compatibilities? Like what does me being a Cancer have to do with my overall personality? Some people fit little to no descriptions of their signs whatsoever, and those descriptions can apply to just about anybody, regardless of their sign.
| @chocovelvetcake It isnt always taken as absolutes just tendencies. The sun signs are only one aspect, you have a sign for every planet with each planet represnting something else, there is different house systems different astrologers use and the house an astronomy object is in is one factor, then all these different planets and so on have relations between eachother. Some use a position of where things would have been in the distant pastsome use what is called siddereal positions which is the real positions of stars and planets. That is why i said it is pretty complicated to get into an in depth analysis of it by yourself because it actually is legitimately complicated to understand how you are supposed to interpret a natal chart and compatibility charts etc. Which is why I cant even say how accurate or not it is. There is different theories on how it might work if it did or no method is expected so no consensus. |
traedDec 27, 2023 4:29 AM
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| Personally I believe that the planets and other astronomical objects are the highest physical incarnations of divinity. They can tell us about shifts in reality and the like through their phases/movements due to this. What I'm basically getting at is that, as far as I understand, the planets and other astronomical objects are highly influenced by what goes on in the imperceptible dimensions of reality (and there being more dimensions than 3 that we can't actually perceive is a generally accepted fact by anyone that doesn't operate solely under classical physics, which is very limited). This allows us to use observations of them and said movements to extrapolate certain things regarding reality and "what is to come", stuff like that. Beyond that, ancient cultures even oriented their places of worship after certain astral bodies with an incredibly high degree of accuracy, the most notable being the Egyptians (most likely to increase the potency of rituals, etc etc). There are reasons for these things being the case beyond "the ancients were delusional because I'm projecting my stupid boomer parents onto things I don't understand". If spirituality and/or understanding the world mean anything to you, then you're likely to find (actual, not modern) astrology to be legit. I believe astrology to be effective in its original purposes, and this is especially reasonable to assume when you realise that time is a perception issue as opposed to it being an actual thing that has any real, fundamental influence over things. It is important to note that there's a very big difference between actual astrology and.... whatever modern "astrology" has become (I blame Wiccans in particular for its degeneration). My faith itself also heavily interfaces with astronomical objects, such as the star Sirius, so it's important for me to take it seriously and become more knowledgeable about it. I only wish 99% of resources regarding it weren't so muddied with bullshit nowadays... |
My Vow is pure. |
| I don't believe in it but it's pretty harmless so I don't mind much about it. There are worst beliefs to have. |
| I'm a Scorpio That means I get to sting people in the face and make a lotta money Thanks Astrology! |
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Reply to Kamikaze_404
Personally I believe that the planets and other astronomical objects are the highest physical incarnations of divinity. They can tell us about shifts in reality and the like through their phases/movements due to this. What I'm basically getting at is that, as far as I understand, the planets and other astronomical objects are highly influenced by what goes on in the imperceptible dimensions of reality (and there being more dimensions than 3 that we can't actually perceive is a generally accepted fact by anyone that doesn't operate solely under classical physics, which is very limited).
This allows us to use observations of them and said movements to extrapolate certain things regarding reality and "what is to come", stuff like that. Beyond that, ancient cultures even oriented their places of worship after certain astral bodies with an incredibly high degree of accuracy, the most notable being the Egyptians (most likely to increase the potency of rituals, etc etc). There are reasons for these things being the case beyond "the ancients were delusional because I'm projecting my stupid boomer parents onto things I don't understand". If spirituality and/or understanding the world mean anything to you, then you're likely to find (actual, not modern) astrology to be legit.
I believe astrology to be effective in its original purposes, and this is especially reasonable to assume when you realise that time is a perception issue as opposed to it being an actual thing that has any real, fundamental influence over things.
It is important to note that there's a very big difference between actual astrology and.... whatever modern "astrology" has become (I blame Wiccans in particular for its degeneration). My faith itself also heavily interfaces with astronomical objects, such as the star Sirius, so it's important for me to take it seriously and become more knowledgeable about it.
I only wish 99% of resources regarding it weren't so muddied with bullshit nowadays...
This allows us to use observations of them and said movements to extrapolate certain things regarding reality and "what is to come", stuff like that. Beyond that, ancient cultures even oriented their places of worship after certain astral bodies with an incredibly high degree of accuracy, the most notable being the Egyptians (most likely to increase the potency of rituals, etc etc). There are reasons for these things being the case beyond "the ancients were delusional because I'm projecting my stupid boomer parents onto things I don't understand". If spirituality and/or understanding the world mean anything to you, then you're likely to find (actual, not modern) astrology to be legit.
I believe astrology to be effective in its original purposes, and this is especially reasonable to assume when you realise that time is a perception issue as opposed to it being an actual thing that has any real, fundamental influence over things.
It is important to note that there's a very big difference between actual astrology and.... whatever modern "astrology" has become (I blame Wiccans in particular for its degeneration). My faith itself also heavily interfaces with astronomical objects, such as the star Sirius, so it's important for me to take it seriously and become more knowledgeable about it.
I only wish 99% of resources regarding it weren't so muddied with bullshit nowadays...
| @Kamikaze_404 I doubt that. In the UK, astrology developed in the twentieth century as modern person-centred humanistic astrology influenced by Rudhyar’s (Citation1936) systematic association of astrology with psychology, Leo’s (Citation1925) theosophical development of the craft as an admixture of Western occultism and Eastern mystical thought (York Citation2007, 410) and Jung’s (Citation1956) mythopoeic psychoanalysis. By the 1980s, psychoanalytical astrology (Green Citation1984) as practiced by the Centre for Psychological astrology (founded 1983) concentrated on meaning-making through the individual’s internal self within an Aristotelian/Ptolemaic astrology of destiny. Whilst divination (Cornelius Citation1994), as practiced by the Company of Astrologers (also founded 1983) recognised astrology as symbolic, spiritual and trans-rational. The ultimate psychological position is that the birth chart is not the spiritual soul but aligned to the secular self with planets expressing individual psychological functions, whilst the wider world is either ignored or recognised as a projection of the self (Willis and Curry Citation2004, 74). These systems and related permutations highlight the variance of ‘middle-brow’ esoteric astrology. At the same time the rise of popular sun-sign forecasting in newspaper and magazine columns (now telephone services and Internet sites), simplified the rigour of esoteric astrology. A typical criticism is that it lacks finesse and treats the entire population as one of twelve zodiac signs (for example, Leo, the courageous leader or Gemini, the hyper-talkative communicator), through a form of de-individualisation. It may engender a fatalistic engagement leaving responsibility determined through the stars, which lacks agency, context and reflection, although this does not necessarily mean it is less authentic or more falsifiable (Willis and Curry Citation2004, 65). Critically, DIY astrology employs a blend of esoteric craft alongside individual psychic hunches and methods associated with popular astrology. The difference between esoteric ‘middle-brow’ and popular DIY practices is the extent of craft and working within the parameters of astrological symbolism, meaning that the categorisation of middle-brow and popular culture is somewhat arbitrary. Esoteric astrology is wide-ranging as it employs individual psychic hunches whilst on the other hand there are certificated courses that strive for greater legitimacy.Footnote5 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14755610.2022.2093234 |
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Reply to JaniSIr
Astrology is totally dumb.
And they don't even have Ophiuchus as a zodiac...
And they don't even have Ophiuchus as a zodiac...
| @JaniSIr The Monogatari protagonist gets mocked at one point for thinking Ophiucus is a zodiac sign. The same author wrote Zodiac War, which may or may not have Ophiucus. The sequel has yet to be translated. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| Astrology is a goofy pseudoscience that surprisingly has relatively a lot of fans mostly in societies considered as "enlightened and developed". Or at least societies that like to consider themselves as such, kekw. |
AdnashDec 27, 2023 12:48 PM
Reply to JaniSIr
Astrology is totally dumb.
And they don't even have Ophiuchus as a zodiac...
And they don't even have Ophiuchus as a zodiac...
| @JaniSIr Ophiuchus constellation is acknowledged as a Zodiac sign and receives a lot of love and attention in Saint Seiya: Next Dimension. |
| No one amongst the internet experts can predict my sign accurately... But you would not date a Capricorn, right? |
Reply to Meusnier
No one amongst the internet experts can predict my sign accurately...
But you would not date a Capricorn, right?
But you would not date a Capricorn, right?
| @Meusnier Meusnier said: I can imagine fans of astrology coming with mental acrobatics such as "your Zodiac sign is actually one of the twelve ones, am I correct?", haha. No one amongst the internet experts can predict my sign accurately... |
Meusnier said: No one amongst the internet experts can predict my sign accurately... I recall I had already pointed out the flaw in your setup but i will start from scratch 1. You assume anyone can even make out your personality from your posts alone which isnt even feasable because it will depend which of your posts they saw and it will also be influenced by their own personality in how they interpret yours. You arent even giving a self description to go on. 2. Astrology is more than sun sign anyway and someone to reverse your whole natal chart is not really worth anyone's effort so you wont get many people taking an attempt 3. There is only 12 signs so even if someone gets it right and you will admit it you will disregard it anyway so why would anyone care to? 4. You didnt specify which astrology system Western or. Vedic 5. You are assuming anyone here would even know enough historically accurate info on astrology to begin with not random stuff they pulled on some shitty blog. Main point is it wouldnt prove or disprove anything so no one has anything to gain. No one guessed it because no one is guessing and if they are guessing they literally are just guessing not following what astrology would tell them should be the more likely answer. |
traedDec 27, 2023 2:32 PM
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traed said: I recall I had already pointed out the flaw in your setup but i will start from scratch 1. You assume anyone can even make out your personality from your posts alone which isnt even feasable because it will depend which of your posts they saw and it will also be influenced by their own personality in how they interpret yours. You arent even giving a self description to go on. 2. Astrology is more than sun sign anyway and someone to reverse your whole natal chart is not really worth anyone's effort so you wont get many people taking an attempt 3. There is only 12 signs so even if someone gets it right and you will admit it you will disregard it anyway so why would anyone care to? 4. You didnt specify which astrology system Western or. Vedic 1. I fail to see what is so difficult about it considering that I write in a very candid way here. Self descriptions are not necessarily helpful, they would rather be misleading here. But I am thinking about any regular of CD, and one could have a look at the comments on my profile too to get an idea on how I behave with others, which says everything they need to know about myself. It should not be a huge effort, were astrology a reliable science. 2. Correct, but looking at one of the links that vasipi4946 shared about, I could see a lot of typical traits that you find in general descriptions of [people who share my sign] in the more precise description where I used my exact date and place of birth. 3. If someone guesses right and can explain their choice, I will concede defeat (odd of you to assume that I would be such a sore loser! Typical Scorpio behaviour... I mean Pisces). And it just takes a few characters to write, I remember that in the last astrology thread, the OP did not even try to predict my sign. 4. Western of course, I know nothing about "Vedic" astrology. Adnash said: I can imagine fans of astrology coming with mental acrobatics such as "your Zodiac sign is actually one of the twelve ones, am I correct?", haha. Lol. My argument is quite simple in fact. If astrology is a science, it should be possible to not only easily guess my sign, but even to find out about the sun sign and basically deduce the exact moment of my birth. Of course, I am not asking for much, but I am always amused when I see people over the internet trying to guess the sign of someone else and always failing to guess it countless times. Sad reality:  |
| @Meusnier I had a 5th point too. I edit my posts a lot. You may want to hold off replying to me anywhere for at minimum ten minutes lol it is a habit. |
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| The Chinese zodiac is much more interesting in my opinion, especially historically. |
| Go read Sousou no Frieren and One Piece they're the best thing ever |
traed said: I had a 5th point too. I edit my posts a lot. You may want to hold off replying to me anywhere for at minimum ten minutes lol it is a habit. Sorry, but I hate to see "edited message" on my posts, so I will address the 5th part separately: traed said: 5. You are assuming anyone here would even know enough historically accurate info on astrology to begin with not random stuff they pulled on some shitty blog. Main point is it wouldnt prove or disprove anything so no one has anything to gain. No one guessed it because no one is guessing and if they are guessing they literally are just guessing not following what astrology would tell them should be the more likely answer Well, this is not really my problem. If we could find people able to explain why Earth is not flat in a rigorous way here, it should not come off as a surprise to find true astrology experts here, were astrology a science... But if people have faith in it without any real knowledge of the field, I would be very concerned about their mental health, and it is well known that anime fans are the sensible Sublunarians. It would if an explanation was provided, but assuming that no one is skilled enough is not a good argument either, because astrology should not be harder to learn than astrophysics... Which can be learnt reading random blogs (of NASA, for example!). |
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| @LittleOwlbear Most people wouldnt know their own even looking it up though. Youd have to know your exact city and time of birth to the minute to get ascendant and it isnt even used as a major thing in readings to begin with from what i can make out. Oh and because it is reliant on altitude you sometimes find contradicting info online on what the ascendant should be due to inaccuracies in altitude. |
traedDec 27, 2023 3:16 PM
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@Kamikaze_404
I doubt that.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14755610.2022.2093234
I doubt that.
In the UK, astrology developed in the twentieth century as modern person-centred humanistic astrology influenced by Rudhyar’s (Citation1936) systematic association of astrology with psychology, Leo’s (Citation1925) theosophical development of the craft as an admixture of Western occultism and Eastern mystical thought (York Citation2007, 410) and Jung’s (Citation1956) mythopoeic psychoanalysis. By the 1980s, psychoanalytical astrology (Green Citation1984) as practiced by the Centre for Psychological astrology (founded 1983) concentrated on meaning-making through the individual’s internal self within an Aristotelian/Ptolemaic astrology of destiny. Whilst divination (Cornelius Citation1994), as practiced by the Company of Astrologers (also founded 1983) recognised astrology as symbolic, spiritual and trans-rational. The ultimate psychological position is that the birth chart is not the spiritual soul but aligned to the secular self with planets expressing individual psychological functions, whilst the wider world is either ignored or recognised as a projection of the self (Willis and Curry Citation2004, 74). These systems and related permutations highlight the variance of ‘middle-brow’ esoteric astrology.
At the same time the rise of popular sun-sign forecasting in newspaper and magazine columns (now telephone services and Internet sites), simplified the rigour of esoteric astrology. A typical criticism is that it lacks finesse and treats the entire population as one of twelve zodiac signs (for example, Leo, the courageous leader or Gemini, the hyper-talkative communicator), through a form of de-individualisation. It may engender a fatalistic engagement leaving responsibility determined through the stars, which lacks agency, context and reflection, although this does not necessarily mean it is less authentic or more falsifiable (Willis and Curry Citation2004, 65). Critically, DIY astrology employs a blend of esoteric craft alongside individual psychic hunches and methods associated with popular astrology. The difference between esoteric ‘middle-brow’ and popular DIY practices is the extent of craft and working within the parameters of astrological symbolism, meaning that the categorisation of middle-brow and popular culture is somewhat arbitrary. Esoteric astrology is wide-ranging as it employs individual psychic hunches whilst on the other hand there are certificated courses that strive for greater legitimacy.Footnote5
At the same time the rise of popular sun-sign forecasting in newspaper and magazine columns (now telephone services and Internet sites), simplified the rigour of esoteric astrology. A typical criticism is that it lacks finesse and treats the entire population as one of twelve zodiac signs (for example, Leo, the courageous leader or Gemini, the hyper-talkative communicator), through a form of de-individualisation. It may engender a fatalistic engagement leaving responsibility determined through the stars, which lacks agency, context and reflection, although this does not necessarily mean it is less authentic or more falsifiable (Willis and Curry Citation2004, 65). Critically, DIY astrology employs a blend of esoteric craft alongside individual psychic hunches and methods associated with popular astrology. The difference between esoteric ‘middle-brow’ and popular DIY practices is the extent of craft and working within the parameters of astrological symbolism, meaning that the categorisation of middle-brow and popular culture is somewhat arbitrary. Esoteric astrology is wide-ranging as it employs individual psychic hunches whilst on the other hand there are certificated courses that strive for greater legitimacy.Footnote5
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14755610.2022.2093234
| @traed First of all, the article you copy and pasted mentions theosophy as a citation, which is a mere amalgamation of various other beliefs glued together savagely by a bunch of morons. All the other citations are bullshit. Jung himself drew from various older belief systems for some of his arguments. I'm not familiar with Rudyhar but I'd imagine it's more or less the same deal. You are arguing with me under the pretense of what astrology has become in modernity, which I very clearly specified in my original reply that it is NOT what I'm talking about. Unless you consider 54 BCE (the construction of the Dendera temple) to be the 20th century, then you're incredibly wrong. There are multiple instances of various cultures using astrological bodies to determine the placements of highly important structures - two good examples would be Stonehenge (which serves no other purpose except a religious one) along with the Dendera temple, which has been found to be built in line with astrological bodies and various constellations that were religiously/ritualistically significant to the Egyptians to a highly accurate degree. Believe it or not, finding the perfect location for a religious structure via the guidance of astral objects IS a form of divination. There's a great book on this from a person that studied an Egyptian temple for a significant amount of time, "The Dawn of Astronomy" by Lockyer. In fact, most of Egyptian thought can be seen as astrological thought. To note, astronomy and astrology were inseparable to ancient people because they didn't have reddit back then. There was no reason for them to separate the two when one informed the other - the premise of a distinction is a presupposition of materialism, which these people did not believe in. Astronomy/astrology was worth the effort because of the sacral relevance that they had; unless you think that they did all of this for shits and giggles. Anyhow, since you think yourself smart for copy and pasting some random internet article, perhaps you should read the wikipedia page for the thing you're trying to deboonk (and failing at): "Different cultures have employed forms of astrology since at least the 2nd millennium BCE, these practices having originated in calendrical systems used to predict seasonal shifts and to interpret celestial cycles as signs of divine communications.[7] Most, if not all, cultures have attached importance to what they observed in the sky, and some—such as the Hindus, Chinese, and the Maya—developed elaborate systems for predicting terrestrial events from celestial observations. Western astrology, one of the oldest astrological systems still in use, can trace its roots to 19th–17th century BCE Mesopotamia, from where it spread to Ancient Greece, Rome, the Islamic world, and eventually Central and Western Europe." Here's the link, out of the kindness of my heart: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology Copy and pasting google searches does not make you smart, nor does it teach you anything. |
Kamikaze_404Dec 27, 2023 3:48 PM
My Vow is pure. |
| @kamikaze_404 Youre missing the point entirely. I was referring to the comment on Wiccans having anything to do with modern astrology, where i provided one of the key times when astrology started to become a pop culture thing was before Wicca even existed. There is other points after then too such as New Agers in the 1970s. |
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@kamikaze_404
Youre missing the point entirely. I was referring to the comment on Wiccans having anything to do with modern astrology, where i provided one of the key times when astrology started to become a pop culture thing was before Wicca even existed. There is other points after then too such as New Agers in the 1970s.
Youre missing the point entirely. I was referring to the comment on Wiccans having anything to do with modern astrology, where i provided one of the key times when astrology started to become a pop culture thing was before Wicca even existed. There is other points after then too such as New Agers in the 1970s.
| @traed Arguably Wiccans behave as theosophists do, and although what Crowley was doing was "admirable" in an experimental way (I will admit he was a good practitioner albeit a questionable one), he never intended for his practice to ever become a widespread system or even part of one like that. Technically Crowley does have his "own" system, that being Thelema, but that's moreso a name for his own way of practicing the arts. Not to mention, the "father of Wicca" basically copied the homework of theosophy and freemasonry along with Crowley's works. A lot of Wiccans know jackshit about what they're doing or where it comes from - this includes astrology, and often this lack of knowledge and spiritual common sense leads to a perversion of what they're trying to do or achieve. They are an active part in degenerating ancient practices. That is what I meant with my little quip. You missed the point by a mile. These practices were an outcome of the ancients' state of mind, not the other way around. LARPing and monkey-see-monkey-do without putting ourselves in that state of mind will achieve nothing but retardation. Wiccans are the farthest thing from having this state of mind, and if anything that state of mind is at times even offensive to them - and these are apparently the people that are "preserving" these practices (lmfao). Perhaps you should actually make your point clearly instead of quoting paragraphs if you don't want to be misunderstood. Anyways, that wasn't the bulk of my argument. You love nitpicking to feel like you're smart, don't you? |
Kamikaze_404Dec 27, 2023 8:06 PM
My Vow is pure. |
| A beautiful, but obviously pseudoscientific esoteric system. I loved it as a child and even had a book on popular astrology. But over the years I just grew out of it. |
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traed said:
I recall I had already pointed out the flaw in your setup but i will start from scratch
1. You assume anyone can even make out your personality from your posts alone which isnt even feasable because it will depend which of your posts they saw and it will also be influenced by their own personality in how they interpret yours. You arent even giving a self description to go on.
2. Astrology is more than sun sign anyway and someone to reverse your whole natal chart is not really worth anyone's effort so you wont get many people taking an attempt
3. There is only 12 signs so even if someone gets it right and you will admit it you will disregard it anyway so why would anyone care to?
4. You didnt specify which astrology system Western or. Vedic
I recall I had already pointed out the flaw in your setup but i will start from scratch
1. You assume anyone can even make out your personality from your posts alone which isnt even feasable because it will depend which of your posts they saw and it will also be influenced by their own personality in how they interpret yours. You arent even giving a self description to go on.
2. Astrology is more than sun sign anyway and someone to reverse your whole natal chart is not really worth anyone's effort so you wont get many people taking an attempt
3. There is only 12 signs so even if someone gets it right and you will admit it you will disregard it anyway so why would anyone care to?
4. You didnt specify which astrology system Western or. Vedic
1. I fail to see what is so difficult about it considering that I write in a very candid way here. Self descriptions are not necessarily helpful, they would rather be misleading here. But I am thinking about any regular of CD, and one could have a look at the comments on my profile too to get an idea on how I behave with others, which says everything they need to know about myself. It should not be a huge effort, were astrology a reliable science.
2. Correct, but looking at one of the links that vasipi4946 shared about, I could see a lot of typical traits that you find in general descriptions of [people who share my sign] in the more precise description where I used my exact date and place of birth.
3. If someone guesses right and can explain their choice, I will concede defeat (odd of you to assume that I would be such a sore loser! Typical Scorpio behaviour... I mean Pisces). And it just takes a few characters to write, I remember that in the last astrology thread, the OP did not even try to predict my sign.
4. Western of course, I know nothing about "Vedic" astrology.
Adnash said:
I can imagine fans of astrology coming with mental acrobatics such as "your Zodiac sign is actually one of the twelve ones, am I correct?", haha.
I can imagine fans of astrology coming with mental acrobatics such as "your Zodiac sign is actually one of the twelve ones, am I correct?", haha.
Lol. My argument is quite simple in fact. If astrology is a science, it should be possible to not only easily guess my sign, but even to find out about the sun sign and basically deduce the exact moment of my birth. Of course, I am not asking for much, but I am always amused when I see people over the internet trying to guess the sign of someone else and always failing to guess it countless times. Sad reality:
Meusnier said: Simple task, yet too hard for folks obsessed over astrology. From my experience with them, they might just pull off the "haha! except astrology is not science!" card and pretend to be "victorious", as if asking a simple question related to certain subject was equal to throwing a glove and demanding a debate over it, lol.Lol. My argument is quite simple in fact. If astrology is a science, it should be possible to not only easily guess my sign, but even to find out about the sun sign and basically deduce the exact moment of my birth. Meusnier said: You can just recommend them reading about Barnum effect and after doing so, leave those people alone with their thoughts, hoping they may connect all dots and see that their "typical behavior of certain Zodiac signs" templates aren't as special as they used to think.Of course, I am not asking for much, but I am always amused when I see people over the internet trying to guess the sign of someone else and always failing to guess it countless times. LittleOwlbear said: Haha. I can imagine them saying "but it's not in the astrology I believe in" or something. I noticed many people who want to pretend to be astrologists, mostly on the Internet, use this excuse when there's a hard question, requiring a detailed answer.And if they guess right, then you ask: "Okay, now, what's my ascendant?" |
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@JaniSIr
The Monogatari protagonist gets mocked at one point for thinking Ophiucus is a zodiac sign. The same author wrote Zodiac War, which may or may not have Ophiucus. The sequel has yet to be translated.
The Monogatari protagonist gets mocked at one point for thinking Ophiucus is a zodiac sign. The same author wrote Zodiac War, which may or may not have Ophiucus. The sequel has yet to be translated.
| @Lucifrost Based. There's not much else to say here... |
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