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I engage in self destructive behavior and do stupid things for no reason sometimes. Also I have severe intrusive thoughts OCD, if I don't take my meds I'm having a very hard time. Any advice?
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I engage in self destructive behavior and do stupid things for no reason sometimes. Also I have severe intrusive thoughts OCD, if I don't take my meds I'm having a very hard time. Any advice?
@LenRea That sounds pretty challenging. Are you speaking to anyone professional alongside taking medication? I suppose it may be beneficial to explore why you are making life harder for yourself, when there's already enough external pressures/influences making it hard enough.
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Start growing garlic if you have a garden, vampires coming soon
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listen to kittencuddler and buy a cat
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Start growing garlic if you have a garden, vampires coming soon
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listen to kittencuddler and buy a cat
@Commit_Crime I already have a cat.
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@Commit_Crime I already have a cat.
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wtf how do you manage to have a hard time then?
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Start growing garlic if you have a garden, vampires coming soon

I prefer taking the gamble of getting my blood sucked by a sexy vampire waifu.
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I engage in self destructive behavior and do stupid things for no reason sometimes. Also I have severe intrusive thoughts OCD, if I don't take my meds I'm having a very hard time. Any advice?
@LenRea Try to take out that destructive behavior on a pillow so you don't harm yourself or damage anything. Why don’t you take your medication? I understand medication can make you feel weird and hurt your stomach, so try to get used to it so it doesn't affect you as much.

Please take care of yourself for the sake of yourself and others.
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@LenRea Try to take out that destructive behavior on a pillow so you don't harm yourself or damage anything. Why don’t you take your medication? I understand medication can make you feel weird and hurt your stomach, so try to get used to it so it doesn't affect you as much.

Please take care of yourself for the sake of yourself and others.
@ScaryOwl I do take my meds of course. And I usually take out my anger on the wrong objects like my phones or the TV, which are costly to replace.
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This used to be flooded in semi helpful posts and very unhelpful ones.

I miss those days.

How do we bring it back?
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MellowJello said:
This used to be flooded in semi helpful posts and very unhelpful ones.

I miss those days.

How do we bring it back?

Be honest Mellow, those days weren't good either, the days before were better, when all 'personal' threads were fair game, and weren't all shoved/re-directed into one megathread. The forum was at least more alive then, with all its flaws.
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I really think the mods should stop moving serious more entailed discussions to a general thread for the person who needs them to just be ignored or forgotten. This thread should be for pretty simple questions only.

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Be honest Mellow, those days weren't good either, the days before were better, when all 'personal' threads were fair game, and weren't all shoved/re-directed into one megathread. The forum was at least more alive then, with all its flaws.

I find it shows a great deal of animosity against the users. In fact ive seen mods entirely delete threads not even move to the general shitfest but completely obliterated where mentally ill and even suicidal users were silenced and some are presumably dead now or otherwise worse off from being isolated. I know at least one instance i caught a thread deleted and the user has been gone for many months now after talking about wanting to kill himself, it didn't even seem to get moved or anything just deleted the whole thread.
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As a not sensible and really humor but rational and dependant man, in a relationship am I basically fucked?

Recently I broke up with a girl because of the above mentioned, we knew each other because she saw me a dependant, she rely on me and really like this point of me so we got together.

Being rational, I was able to help her solve most of her problem that isn't related to human relationship, however when it comes to human relationship I can only be there for her. Also, whenever it come to an argument between me and her, she told me that she doesn't feel any warm from me at all, all my words feel cold.

Being dependant and rational, I don't really need others help and some people even pull me down most of the time in term of official business. This make become not sensible and not hurmor guys. So whenever she feel down and sad I don't really know how to comfort her, the only thing I can do is either bring her something she like, huddle her or simply be there as a listener.

This is my understanding in this relationship
Not sensible/humor = bad
Rational = neither bad or good
Dependant = good

I am not seeking for comfort here either, I simply wanted to learn from my mistake and to know how can I improve my sensibility and become a slighly humor guy. The rational or dependant parts are simply there in case they can help me improve in anyway.
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Hey there! This is probably not the best place to share my feelings and ask for help. I am a 2nd year College student and I met this classmate and became friends with them quickly. I guess I can consider that we became close when she asked to visit my place (house). My virgin self hoped something amazing would happen lmfao.

Nothing happened, but she's been crashing at my place four times already. It's about to be the fifth time tomorrow. I don't know what her intentions are. I isolated myself most of the time when I was in Junior High School (JHS), so I don't really know much about social cues. I've been feeling intense feelings for her ever since, to the point I confessed my feelings for her. I didn't know if it was love or obsession, but I asked on another platform and they said it is an obsession. I can't spend a single second where I wasn't thinking about her. And I feel regret for being a social recluse in the past 7 years since I was in JHS.

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- I asked her why she rejected me, and she replied she wouldn't go for someone like me—I'm a weirdo (she meant I'm autistic). I guess we're sticking with just being friends. She also said I'll never be in a relationship unless I change myself for the better. :3
- She is already onto someone else. But I can't stop wanting to be with her. Darn obsession!
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It's normal to be obsessed with someone when you have a lot of feelings for them. It's only a problem if it is a problem for you or you do something unreasonably invasive to them they dont like.

A lot of girls tend to be full of shit on the type they are into. They always get into someone who is not their type at some point.

I have no idea what she is doing though. Her going to your place means she trusts you though or at least thinks she could easily kick your ass. Have you ever asked to go to her place? I'd be curious if she acts any different about that situation.
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Part of the reason you are so obsessed because you have never got laid and you mistake this as a ''love'' because you finally see a chance with someone you have attraction for.
I bet you think you will never have another chance like this again.

Wrong.

As long you keep talking to girls but consider them as people first, not just potential partners, you might land yourself a girlfriend.
Also being a better person is subjective, I got dumped by my ex yesterday who went with her work coworker who's an absolute normie with 0 personality and horse teeth.
Got confessed by my work coworker who's 6 years younger than me, seems like to have daddy issues and thinks I am mysterious/interesting with issues she thinks she can fix.

Women have different tastes like you do, so.
Personality matters way more for everything and the way you treat her, being consistent and actually listening to her feelings.

I'd say stop focusing on her so much and focus on yourself to make yourself happy, talk to girls but don't expect relationship to come out of it.
If she doesn't want you for who you are then it's not really worth to change yourself, is it.
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Having an obsession isn't necessarily bad and you could have expressed it just by giving her attention, I think most women enjoy that, so it would have been a win-win situation if you were more patient and didn't confess too early.

nanajp said:
I didn't know if it was love or obsession
Both, because love is an obsession.

She also said I'll never be in a relationship unless I change myself for the better.
Seems like a bad faith assumption, there are enough women who would enjoy being loved obsessively, you just need to find them.
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Having an obsession isn't necessarily bad and you could have expressed it just by giving her attention, I think most women enjoy that, so it would have been a win-win situation if you were more patient and didn't confess too early.

nanajp said:
I didn't know if it was love or obsession
Both, because love is an obsession.

She also said I'll never be in a relationship unless I change myself for the better.
Seems like a bad faith assumption, there are enough women who would enjoy being loved obsessively, you just need to find them.
The amount of regret I'm feeling right now!!! XD If only I didn't rush things and wasn't very direct. But, people around me have always called me a "robot" for my way of speech and my body movements. Maybe I never really had any chance IDK what im even typing im sorry aaa

(Also, I didn't know there was a reply feature :o)
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It's normal to be obsessed with someone when you have a lot of feelings for them. It's only a problem if it is a problem for you or you do something unreasonably invasive to them they dont like.

A lot of girls tend to be full of shit on the type they are into. They always get into someone who is not their type at some point.

I have no idea what she is doing though. Her going to your place means she trusts you though or at least thinks she could easily kick your ass. Have you ever asked to go to her place? I'd be curious if she acts any different about that situation.
@traed Touching her is not my shii-, also, I did ask her why she goes to my place when we just knew each other since June (start of classes, 5 months since), and we only started hanging out a lot 3 weeks ago. She probably does trust me. XD
I haven't asked to crash at her place, never thought of it. I will try tomorrow because we'll hangout again.
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@LoveYourSmile It's really hard to try it with someone else currently. I'm still in love with her haha, but I'll keep it in mind yo! I'm a he btw :3
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Part of the reason you are so obsessed because you have never got laid and you mistake this as a ''love'' because you finally see a chance with someone you have attraction for.
I bet you think you will never have another chance like this again.

Wrong.

As long you keep talking to girls but consider them as people first, not just potential partners, you might land yourself a girlfriend.
Also being a better person is subjective, I got dumped by my ex yesterday who went with her work coworker who's an absolute normie with 0 personality and horse teeth.
Got confessed by my work coworker who's 6 years younger than me, seems like to have daddy issues and thinks I am mysterious/interesting with issues she thinks she can fix.

Women have different tastes like you do, so.
Personality matters way more for everything and the way you treat her, being consistent and actually listening to her feelings.

I'd say stop focusing on her so much and focus on yourself to make yourself happy, talk to girls but don't expect relationship to come out of it.
If she doesn't want you for who you are then it's not really worth to change yourself, is it.
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TheD3m0nL0rd said:
I got dumped by my ex yesterday who went with her work coworker who's an absolute normie with 0 personality and horse teeth.

Some women (women ☕☕) are really selfish. I'm sorry this happened to you man...
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As long you keep talking to girls but consider them as people first, not just potential partners, you might land yourself a girlfriend. I'd say stop focusing on her so much and focus on yourself to make yourself happy, talk to girls but don't expect relationship to come out of it. If she doesn't want you for who you are then it's not really worth to change yourself, is it.

I'm already a college student and an adult, but it's sad that I don't know how to be a good person. I will do my best to do this! I want to thank you guys for these replies. These will help me out in life.

While I was thinking of how to manage these feelings, I made one solution that I'll probably never use. Although it's a jerk move, it's probably effective in managing my emotions. It's where I cut my ties off with her completely. I won't do it though, maybe.
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I got dumped by my ex yesterday who went with her work coworker who's an absolute normie with 0 personality and horse teeth.

Some women (women ☕☕) are really selfish. I'm sorry this happened to you man...
TheD3m0nL0rd said:
As long you keep talking to girls but consider them as people first, not just potential partners, you might land yourself a girlfriend. I'd say stop focusing on her so much and focus on yourself to make yourself happy, talk to girls but don't expect relationship to come out of it. If she doesn't want you for who you are then it's not really worth to change yourself, is it.

I'm already a college student and an adult, but it's sad that I don't know how to be a good person. I will do my best to do this! I want to thank you guys for these replies. These will help me out in life.

While I was thinking of how to manage these feelings, I made one solution that I'll probably never use. Although it's a jerk move, it's probably effective in managing my emotions. It's where I cut my ties off with her completely. I won't do it though, maybe.
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Some women (women ☕☕) are really selfish. I'm sorry this happened to you man...


All good, not my first time, that is where my experience comes from.

nanajp said:
I'm already a college student and an adult, but it's sad that I don't know how to be a good person. I will do my best to do this! I want to thank you guys for these replies. These will help me out in life.

While I was thinking of how to manage these feelings, I made one solution that I'll probably never use. Although it's a jerk move, it's probably effective in managing my emotions. It's where I cut my ties off with her completely. I won't do it though, maybe.


What is a good person in your eyes? Someone deemed good person by society standards or by the girl you crush on?
If you do want to be a better person then do it for yourself, perhaps there are things you wish to change about yourself then aim for that.

You mentioned you hate sounding like a robot or acting like one, might be because you are feeling awkward or not used to socializing.

Cutting off ties completely doesn't solve it, trust me you will be bothered about it later on.
Everyone manages their feelings different, you could just eventually accept that she won't ever see you as a love interest and there's nothing you can do about it, once you accept that fact then you'll stop obsessing over her so much.

Also cutting ties completely just looks like you only wanted her to lose your virginity for or for relationship purposes only, lol.
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Some women (women ☕☕) are really selfish. I'm sorry this happened to you man...


All good, not my first time, that is where my experience comes from.

nanajp said:
I'm already a college student and an adult, but it's sad that I don't know how to be a good person. I will do my best to do this! I want to thank you guys for these replies. These will help me out in life.

While I was thinking of how to manage these feelings, I made one solution that I'll probably never use. Although it's a jerk move, it's probably effective in managing my emotions. It's where I cut my ties off with her completely. I won't do it though, maybe.


What is a good person in your eyes? Someone deemed good person by society standards or by the girl you crush on?
If you do want to be a better person then do it for yourself, perhaps there are things you wish to change about yourself then aim for that.

You mentioned you hate sounding like a robot or acting like one, might be because you are feeling awkward or not used to socializing.

Cutting off ties completely doesn't solve it, trust me you will be bothered about it later on.
Everyone manages their feelings different, you could just eventually accept that she won't ever see you as a love interest and there's nothing you can do about it, once you accept that fact then you'll stop obsessing over her so much.

Also cutting ties completely just looks like you only wanted her to lose your virginity for or for relationship purposes only, lol.
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What is a good person in your eyes? Someone deemed good person by society standards or by the girl you crush on?
I believe that my real personality, the birthed personality, is actually evil. When I was a kid, I was very naughty. I was the naughtiest of the naughty kids. Back in elementary in 2nd grade, I wasted all of my classmate's baby powder inside her bag. The inside of her bag looked all white. You could no longer see the original color of the bag (it was pink). I only started trying to be a good person when I reached first year of Junior High School (JHS). All the bad acts I did back in elementary, I tried to do the opposite. I was very talkative before, so I changed and became quiet. I used to be very hyper, I was diagnosed with ADHD, but I suppressed it completely. I used to laugh at people's agony, now I don't. JHS really changed me. I believe the new change has become part of me. But I also believe the old me is still part of me inside. Whenever I think of laughing at others, in a split second my brain automatically makes me feel bad for thinking that way and stuff. It's like I've rewritten my Code! To answer your question, I believe a good person is someone who doesn't inconvenience others, who doesn't make others feel bad, who doesn't make intentional mistakes, and stuff.

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You mentioned you hate sounding like a robot or acting like one, might be because you are feeling awkward or not used to socializing.
Yep, I'm not used to socializing. I became a social recluse in second year of JHS oof.

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Also cutting ties completely just looks like you only wanted her to lose your virginity for or for relationship purposes only, lol.
Jeeeeeez, thank you for telling me that perspective. AAAAAAA
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@TheD3m0nL0rd Dude, I want to say sorry to her tomorrow. I will say how I was a social recluse, I lack socialization skills, and all that happened (confession) because I am new to these things. I want to be friends with them. And I moved on now :3
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If she's not interested either work on yourself to become someone she could be interested in or try to make some other connections. It's good that you found a friend, but you need to expand your horizons through more interaction.
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I hate to but you are likely incel and do not know it. All it takes is to be a virgin over 20. All you can do is accept it and move on. If you are over 6ft you might have better luck geomaxing though.
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If she's not interested either work on yourself to become someone she could be interested in or try to make some other connections. It's good that you found a friend, but you need to expand your horizons through more interaction.
@Kwanthemaster Thanks man qwq, I will do these with my best!
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I hate to but you are likely incel and do not know it. All it takes is to be a virgin over 20. All you can do is accept it and move on. If you are over 6ft you might have better luck geomaxing though.
@rohan121 I actually called myself one for a few years now. It sucks, man...

I am 5'7 ft tall last time I checked. What's geomaxing?
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@rohan121 I actually called myself one for a few years now. It sucks, man...

I am 5'7 ft tall last time I checked. What's geomaxing?
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Geomaxing is chosing a different country to live in usually where their is less competition. Only possible if you got enough money though. If you believe you are a truecel I do not recommend going that route.
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Geomaxing is chosing a different country to live in usually where their is less competition. Only possible if you got enough money though. If you believe you are a truecel I do not recommend going that route.
@rohan121 I see, thanks for telling me. I won't go through that route. I love my country and the people in it <3

All this time, I've honestly never prioritized being in a relationship with others. It was just this moment in a decade where I felt an intense obsession with this one person XD, maybe because my puberty hit me too late, or something like that.
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While I don't think your really obsessed, I think you're moving too fast. A problem I see is that you thought that when they were going to your house that it was a sign of intimacy, going to a friend's house means your getting closer but not in that way, she wanted to hang out with you and talk about whatever.


She put you in the friend zone so that is a sign to stop thinking so much about her, find another friend or do a different hobby.
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asked her why she rejected me, and she replied she wouldn't go for someone like me—I'm a weirdo (she meant I'm autistic). I guess we're sticking with just being friends. She also said I'll never be in a relationship unless I change myself for the better. :3

If her reason is actually "you are too weird (autistic) for me and you should change yourself completely" and you haven't done anything wrong, I'd reconsider the whole friendship as well.
From personal experience, these people might talk and laugh behind your back even for talking about your special interests or other nd traits that don't harm them.
Be friends with people, who appreciate you being "weird" (as long it's harmless weird)... that mostly comes down to other neurodivergent friends and partners.

Also virginity is a social construct you don't have to care about. Trying to lose your virginity just to boost your self-esteem won't happen. It will come across as insecure and needy and you won't see the person first who you are trying date.
On another note: the friendzone doesn't exist. It's wonderful to have genuine friends and not a zone where you put in and have to find a way out.
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I just thought things through

I cant be in a relationship yet. Why?
- I dont even know how to deepen my connection with others.
- It's hard for me to speak confidently
- It's hard for me to speak outloud
- I dont have any fashion
- I dont know how to dress well
- I dont know gestures
- Walking style
- Gestures

All that stuff I dont know! It's because I literally threw myself in the digital world. No forceful help from my dad. He just let me stayed inside my room. I was close to the hikikomori person. I didnt build deep connection with others. I didnt know I was headed in the wrong path in life. I had no one to guide me.

Others call me a robot, weirdo, or a creep because of the way I move, gestures, way of speech, and/or aura. Man.
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While I don't think your really obsessed, I think you're moving too fast. A problem I see is that you thought that when they were going to your house that it was a sign of intimacy, going to a friend's house means your getting closer but not in that way, she wanted to hang out with you and talk about whatever.


She put you in the friend zone so that is a sign to stop thinking so much about her, find another friend or do a different hobby.
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find another friend or do a different hobby.
I don't want to find another friend =w= But why should I?
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asked her why she rejected me, and she replied she wouldn't go for someone like me—I'm a weirdo (she meant I'm autistic). I guess we're sticking with just being friends. She also said I'll never be in a relationship unless I change myself for the better. :3

If her reason is actually "you are too weird (autistic) for me and you should change yourself completely" and you haven't done anything wrong, I'd reconsider the whole friendship as well.
From personal experience, these people might talk and laugh behind your back even for talking about your special interests or other nd traits that don't harm them.
Be friends with people, who appreciate you being "weird" (as long it's harmless weird)... that mostly comes down to other neurodivergent friends and partners.

Also virginity is a social construct you don't have to care about. Trying to lose your virginity just to boost your self-esteem won't happen. It will come across as insecure and needy and you won't see the person first who you are trying date.
On another note: the friendzone doesn't exist. It's wonderful to have genuine friends and not a zone where you put in and have to find a way out.
@LittleOwlbear Thank you so much for this response. Very much thanks.

I used to have friends who accepted me for who I am, but well I went over the line too many times and they got fed up with me. Sad life haha (nobody cares) DAMN WHY AM I LIKE THISSSSS
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Personally if I were you, I would get high on kratom and then tell her I liked her. Plan it out. Kratom is a great drug for socializing. It'll also boost your confidence. I wouldn't hang around someone I liked w/o telling them my feelings but I know social anxiety can be crippling.

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On another note: the friendzone doesn't exist. It's wonderful to have genuine friends and not a zone where you put in and have to find a way out.

Id say it kind of does but I don't really like the term but it's a quick way to explain a situation but if a word did not exist I would have not made one.

There can be someone currently not being attracted to a friend who is attracted to them which may change in future if either person changes (within reason) so the chemistry between them would change, but their past impressions in them can make it more difficult for them even if they do change in the right way versus had they not been very close. Though this would be the case regardless of if they are or are not friends but I think it more effects someone who is around them more (which can include friends) than someone they rarely see (though this also can be a friend but likely less close) because the changes would be seen more easily for less frequently seeing or speaking.

Another scenario is when at least with a straight pairing usually done by a girl since I have yet to personally see guys do it due to it culturally usually the guy approaching the girl and when same sex I'm not sure the occurrence rate. It is when someone does not date a good friend or friends in general because they worry about losing their friend due to wrongly assuming that is the only way it could go if they decide to not date anymore. They fail to see the possibility of keeping their friend in event of a breakup, downplay the possibility of the relationship working out well same as it already is as friends, and they don't consider how turning down their friend who if they were not their friend first they likely would have not rejected, could itself potentially lead to losing their friend due to feeling too hurt to see them more unless they were to fall for someone else. To be more clear the reason is not a lack of attraction, they find their personality and looks attractive and may even be in love with them is how this is different from just normal romantic or sexual rejection because they only reject in action but not in their feelings. Only certain people do this behavior of pushing friends away and if any only pulling strangers and acquaintances in to romantic relationships. This can be due to either fear of commitment, fear of change, fear of what others would think, or fear sex to name a few. I do think the proper response is reassurance to ease fears in such a scenario.

I find those both very sympathetic scenarios.

Not that I am denying this "friend zone" label is also sometimes wrongly claimed from the kind of people that react with anger toward who rejected them instead of looking at how they could change themselves (within reason) or assure their romantic interest or just going on to someone else but I think it is also wrong to assume someone is that kind of person if they use the term to express their feelings because they could be the other types I described just as easily. Responding with "there is no friend zone" is like invalidating the unique feelings of rejection someone is having. It does nothing to such discussions because no replacement term for these things is offered.


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I cant be in a relationship yet. Why?
- I dont even know how to deepen my connection with others.
- It's hard for me to speak confidently
- It's hard for me to speak outloud
- I dont have any fashion
- I dont know how to dress well
- I dont know gestures
- Walking style
- Gestures

-with trust and reliability and being vulnerable within reasonable risk level when the situation calls for it (as in revealing sensitive social information on your life and your views and feelings), and having similar interests or outlooks and having shared experiences together. These deepen connections.
-you don't really have to be confident just clear spoken to be understood and honest but not so honest it hurts people as in careful with phrasing
-you could practice speaking to train your vocal cords for speech patterns and/or find other ways of communicating each person individually is receptive to other than speaking if it is effective enough at conveying what you want
-just dress how you like or if you are indifferent have someone else pick things out for you that you feel good in but dont wear something you dislike
-gestures can be learned but they can be unique to a culture or individual. It's just pattern recognition
-how you walk is a learned trait I think. I have walked maybe three different ways in my life. You shouldnt overly worry about it or you may overcompensate but making sure your posture is right and not too rigid you may wind up moving less "robotic". Doesn't really matter that much I think since someone at most would just find it a quirk, it only may lessen sexual attraction on sight at most but some people can also be into it from seeming unfamiliar and less predictable so it isnt inherently a setback.
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find another friend or do a different hobby.
I don't want to find another friend =w= But why should I?
@nanajp Because thinking about them so much isn't healthy. Plus your obviously looking for a lover.
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@nanajp Because thinking about them so much isn't healthy. Plus your obviously looking for a lover.
@ScaryOwl As a former social recluse, this is really bad for me. I wish my human emotion: love and lust, would just disappear.
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Personally if I were you, I would get high on kratom and then tell her I liked her. Plan it out. Kratom is a great drug for socializing. It'll also boost your confidence. I wouldn't hang around someone I liked w/o telling them my feelings but I know social anxiety can be crippling.
@lucjan What can someone like me, who used to be a social recluse, have any use for socialization boosting drug like Kratom? I wouldn't magically know social clues, or any of that shi-
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What does it mean when a friend wants our friendship to remain private?
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@ScaryOwl As a former social recluse, this is really bad for me. I wish my human emotion: love and lust, would just disappear.
@nanajp Just try to slow things down and if you're looking for love then maybe go on a dating app (be safe if you do that).
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@nanajp Without any context I can't confirm but it sure sounds like they are ashamed to be your friend and don't want others to know.
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What does it mean when a friend wants our friendship to remain private?
That's something you have to ask that "friend" of yours. It could be shame, it could be another jealous friend or lover, or the "friend" wanting to possibly keep you as a "backup option" or the "friend" having (too) strict parents. The chances for such a scenario are higher if that "friend" is female.

But either way, you may want to be wary if your relationship has to be kept secret for a longer time, because it means that that person's environment is not healthy or you are not good enough to convince that person and their environment that you are the one, or that person is not a good person if they keep you as some backup solution instead of openly laying out their cards on the table and just sticking with one ace.
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Recently I had to leave the house a few times and everywhere I kept seeing young couples my age, the fact some young guys like me get to have a gf yet I'm a shut-in loser who can't talk to women has made me truly distressed to an existential extent, I've been through such maddening days because of this I think I'm going to lose my mind and do something stupid and irrational.
So what's the best way I can forget about my incel envy and go on be a shut-in loser with no worries like I was previously. Please just gimme advice on how I stay a loser and forgetting my sudden realization of my situation that has made me distressed.
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Recently I had to leave the house a few times and everywhere I kept seeing young couples my age, the fact some young guys like me get to have a gf yet I'm a shut-in loser who can't talk to women has made me truly distressed to an existential extent, I've been through such maddening days because of this I think I'm going to lose my mind and do something stupid and irrational.
So what's the best way I can forget about my incel envy and go on be a shut-in loser with no worries like I was previously. Please just gimme advice on how I stay a loser and forgetting my sudden realization of my situation that has made me distressed.
@LenRea I feel the same thing actually 😭😭 Waiting for a reply on this, sorry for the mention
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Recently I had to leave the house a few times and everywhere I kept seeing young couples my age, the fact some young guys like me get to have a gf yet I'm a shut-in loser who can't talk to women has made me truly distressed to an existential extent, I've been through such maddening days because of this I think I'm going to lose my mind and do something stupid and irrational.
So what's the best way I can forget about my incel envy and go on be a shut-in loser with no worries like I was previously. Please just gimme advice on how I stay a loser and forgetting my sudden realization of my situation that has made me distressed.
@LenRea Firstly you can stop labeling yourself as an Incel. Negative self-image becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. By wanting a girlfriend you're ignoring what you need for yourself. You can't love another person if you don't have some respect for yourself first. After that it will come naturally. I also suggest stop being a "shut-in loser" and get a social hobby. You're only distressed because your mind wants something it can't have because of a situation you have created for yourself: "shut-in loser" - just quit being one.
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