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Nov 14, 2019 12:31 AM
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When I was younger I used to be a real edgy boy! Loved me some yandere wrecking sh*t up, like in Higurashi, School Days, Mirai Nikki, Genocyber, Elfen Lied, Deadman Wonderland, A Kite... I watched them all! They felt deep to me... lmao. I also just liked seinen a lot, like Gantz, Kaiji, Ninja Scroll, 90s OVA's. It was fun stuff. As I grew up I still find such anime very entertaining when they have to revolve around fighting. Like Fist of the North Star, Baki, Jojo, HxH.

Granted I don't think most of them hold up well... and if it doesn't have good characters or story to pull it through I find them to be horrendous, or just torture porn. The same reason I never liked Corpse Party or Pupa.

So how about you? Did you ever go through such a period? Do you like or hate such anime?
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Nov 14, 2019 12:36 AM
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i just do not like too realistic gore but those fight scenes on battle shonen for example i consider violence and i love them
Nov 14, 2019 12:42 AM
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I don't mind violence as long as it serves a purpose,but i don't like it in excess either.It's just not something i look for in anime,which is why don't watch anime with senseless gore because i don't find enjoyment in those sort of things.
Nov 14, 2019 12:43 AM
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hell yea. its fun to see people get shot, kicked, punched and go all out in a fight scene. give me it all dude
Nov 14, 2019 12:45 AM
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As long as it doesn't go beyond the level of violence in Hellsing Ultimate I'm fine with it. So far I haven't found anything that's crossed that line yet.
That is unless I count Devilman Crybaby, but even that wasn't all that bad to me as far as violence goes.
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Eh, not really. I hate to use the term "I grew out of it," but nowadays I tend to steer clear of most kinds of instant-gratification devices in favor of more character-driven works. Now I'm not saying that something being violent automatically dismisses it from being potentially great in my eyes (or that character pieces, in general, can't be violent), but a good 95% of shows I've seen (whether anime, film, or western television) that focus primarily on action and/or violence in some form tend to lack in other aspects, and they ultimately end up relying far too heavy on face-value entertainment. I guess I just tend to prefer more slow-burn works that lead up to powerful revelations, as those are typically the more cathartic stories; those tend to leave a much stronger, lasting impression for me.


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Nov 14, 2019 12:50 AM
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As long as it doesn't go beyond the level of violence in Hellsing Ultimate I'm fine with it. So far I haven't found anything that's crossed that line yet.
That is unless I count Devilman Crybaby.

Idk man, nothing comes close to Genocyber in my mind as far as animated violence goes.
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Dakago said:
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As long as it doesn't go beyond the level of violence in Hellsing Ultimate I'm fine with it. So far I haven't found anything that's crossed that line yet.
That is unless I count Devilman Crybaby.

Idk man, nothing comes close to Genocyber in my mind as far as animated violence goes.

I'll have to take your word for it, since I doubt I'll be watching that anytime soon.
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Setsuei said:
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Idk man, nothing comes close to Genocyber in my mind as far as animated violence goes.

I'll have to take your word for it, since I doubt I'll be watching that anytime soon.

Quite possibly one of the most controversial anime of all-time. Full to the brim with extremely cruel depictions of violence, including children getting massacred (essentially breaking the unwritten rule that this should never be something depicted on-screen, and especially in such a brutal fashion).

Edit: no I haven't seen it, and I never plan on it


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Nov 14, 2019 1:06 AM
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Not really unless it's a bad guy getting some much need karma.

I am really not into gore but slapstick violence is ok.
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I'll have to take your word for it, since I doubt I'll be watching that anytime soon.

Quite possibly one of the most controversial anime of all-time. Full to the brim with extremely cruel depictions of violence, including children getting massacred (essentially breaking the unwritten rule that this should never be something depicted on-screen, and especially in such a brutal fashion).

Edit: no I haven't seen it, and I never plan on it

Ok...thanks for the heads up. Now I'm even less interested in watching it. I'd rather stick to watching vampires and demons kill each other...
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Hım, not really.
If the violence in the anime is not that disturbing or If It has a specific purpose, it may be okay for me.
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Setsuei said:
Greyleaf said:

Quite possibly one of the most controversial anime of all-time. Full to the brim with extremely cruel depictions of violence, including children getting massacred (essentially breaking the unwritten rule that this should never be something depicted on-screen, and especially in such a brutal fashion).

Edit: no I haven't seen it, and I never plan on it

Ok...thanks for the heads up. Now I'm even less interested in watching it. I'd rather stick to watching vampires and demons kill each other...

It still has that. The mc girl becomes into a demonic power suit monster that kills other demonic monsters. She essentially becomes a super hero by the end.
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Dakago said:
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Ok...thanks for the heads up. Now I'm even less interested in watching it. I'd rather stick to watching vampires and demons kill each other...

It still has that. The mc girl becomes into a demonic power suit monster that kills other demonic monsters. She essentially becomes a super hero by the end.

Good to know. Probably still pass on it though. Devilman Crybaby is the most violent thing I'm willing to watch.
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Setsuei said:
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It still has that. The mc girl becomes into a demonic power suit monster that kills other demonic monsters. She essentially becomes a super hero by the end.

Good to know. Probably still pass on it though. Devilman Crybaby is the most violent thing I'm willing to watch.

Funnily enough, Devilman Crybaby looked too childish to me thanks to its weird character designs so I never could take it seriously. The manga wasn't much better thanks to that goofy Go Nagai artwork... I had no idea people thought of it as that violent.
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Dakago said:
Setsuei said:

Good to know. Probably still pass on it though. Devilman Crybaby is the most violent thing I'm willing to watch.

Funnily enough, Devilman Crybaby looked too childish to me thanks to its weird character designs so I never could take it seriously. The manga wasn't much better thanks to that goofy Go Nagai artwork...

True. That's the reason why the violence in it didn't bother me. It came off as almost cartoony to me.
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I like violence only when the character initiating it has a very good reason for their actions and it's still portrayed as bad. On the other hand I really dislike it when I see characters, mainly delinquents or yakuza, picking up unnecessary fights just to be cool.

Watching something with murder and violence, specially when it's motivated by anger/grudge just makes me feel better when I'm in a terrible mood, at such times I'd rather just pick up some horror anime than something involving tournaments or indiscriminate fights just to show off their power.
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depends on the degree of it and the thematic usage of it
many times violence is used to evoke shock values or to force emotional build up onto the audience
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It depends on the execution but for the most part yes I do.
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I don't mind violence. I don't go out of my way to watch violent things, I try to watch different type of things but I usually have a pretty high tolerance when it comes to violence in anime/movies. Only thing I don't like is throat slashing, for some reason I always feel like it's happening to me lol
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Yeah sure, if it’s realistic violence then sure. But if it’s stupid violence then no.
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Only when female characters beating up male characters. But it needs to be either a kick on the crotch, an elbow or a fist on the stomach, double pokes on the eyes, a headbutt or use of any sharp object.

If its a slap we are in a different discussion altogether. That's the one and only violence on men that I cannot and will not tolerate. (ಠ_ಠ)
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I like gore. Gore is what kept me from dropping pieces of crap like elfen lied
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Yeah, I love fking violence. That is what makes anime great!
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As long as the anime has a good story then I'm ok with it



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I don't really have a problem with violence in anime. Though I'd prefer the violence have a reason for being there, rather than an anime having violence just for the sake of having violence.
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Setsuei said:
As long as it doesn't go beyond the level of violence in Hellsing Ultimate I'm fine with it. So far I haven't found anything that's crossed that line yet.
That is unless I count Devilman Crybaby, but even that wasn't all that bad to me as far as violence goes.


I don't think its possible to go beyond the level of gore in Hellsing Ultimate. That anime seems like it was specifically designed to be as blood soaked and gorey as humanely possible. I don't know why you're comparing it to Devilman Crybaby. Devilman didn't have anywhere near as much violence as Hellsing Ultimate did. I'd consider Tokyo Ghoul to be a better comparison but even Tokyo Ghoul didn't have close to as much as Hellsing did.

If we are talking about violence in terms of body counts. Then the Kingdom anime easily has the highest body count of any anime I've ever seen, easily eclipsing even High School of the Dead's. But Kingdom has very little blood and no gore whatsoever. I'd also say that all the violence in Kingdom is perfectly appropriate for the story they are trying to tell. Ancient China was a very violent place and wars back then took the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. Often in a matter of days. Any story depicting warfare in Ancient China that doesn't have a lot of violence would not be portraying it realistically.

My take on violence in anime is simply "does it fit." Does the violence make the story better? If so then I think its appropriate. In the case of Kingdom, I think the high body count made the anime better. But I don't enjoy violence for the sake of violence. And to me, that's pretty much what Hellsing Ultimate was. They didn't bother crafting an interesting story, it was pretty much all blood splatter and heads being ripped off.

High School of the Dead is an anime about zombies. Anyone who watches a zombie show should go into it expecting a lot of violence. Certainly nobody is going to whine about the Walking Dead being too violent. And Hellsing Ultimate's violence might've been okay with me if they had tried harder to develop a compelling plot and characters. After-all, its not like I wasn't expecting it to be violent, but most of the time I just didn't give a fuck about what was happening so I found it boring and it seemed to me that the violence was being used to substitute for a lack of storytelling talent.
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If its violence like in Hellsing Ultimate, so not a realistic gore fest but almost comedic in its over the top execution then I like it.

But Im really not a fan of torture porn.
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As long as it doesn't go beyond the level of violence in Hellsing Ultimate I'm fine with it. So far I haven't found anything that's crossed that line yet.
That is unless I count Devilman Crybaby, but even that wasn't all that bad to me as far as violence goes.


I don't think its possible to go beyond the level of gore in Hellsing Ultimate. That anime seems like it was specifically designed to be as blood soaked and gorey as humanely possible. I don't know why you're comparing it to Devilman Crybaby. Devilman didn't have anywhere near as much violence as Hellsing Ultimate did. I'd consider Tokyo Ghoul to be a better comparison but even Tokyo Ghoul didn't have close to as much as Hellsing did.

Devilman Crybaby was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of other violent and gory shows I've seen, but yeah, you're right, it's not comparable to Hellsing Ultimate. From what I've heard from others there were far more violent anime in the past though, the one specifically mentioned as being among the goriest being Genocyber, an OVA from 1994.
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If its violence like in Hellsing Ultimate, so not a realistic gore fest but almost comedic in its over the top execution then I like it.

But Im really not a fan of torture porn.


I actually prefer violence in anime and TV to be disturbing as opposed to the comical over the top stuff. Sanitizing violence is an inherent contradiction to how it really works. Violence can't be sanitized. Its horrifying. If the violence in an anime is disturbing, horrifying you, and making the show hard to watch and you want to turn it off, then it has succeeded in making you feel the pain that the characters felt when it happened to them.

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I don't think its possible to go beyond the level of gore in Hellsing Ultimate. That anime seems like it was specifically designed to be as blood soaked and gorey as humanely possible. I don't know why you're comparing it to Devilman Crybaby. Devilman didn't have anywhere near as much violence as Hellsing Ultimate did. I'd consider Tokyo Ghoul to be a better comparison but even Tokyo Ghoul didn't have close to as much as Hellsing did.

Devilman Crybaby was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of other violent and gory shows I've seen, but yeah, you're right, it's not comparable to Hellsing Ultimate. From what I've heard from others there were far more violent anime in the past though, the one specifically mentioned as being among the goriest being Genocyber, an OVA from 1994.


I've never seen Genocyber so its hard for me to say. Its difficult to imagine an anime being more gorey than Hellsing Ultimate but there's always a bigger fish when this stuff is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised if the goriest thing ever made is actually some really obscure hentai that belongs in the darkest depths of the internet only to be found by like 3 or 4 people.
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Yes, yes I do. But what kind of violence?

Over the top fun - Yes

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Ryuk9428 said:
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If its violence like in Hellsing Ultimate, so not a realistic gore fest but almost comedic in its over the top execution then I like it.

But Im really not a fan of torture porn.


I actually prefer violence in anime and TV to be disturbing as opposed to the comical over the top stuff. Sanitizing violence is an inherent contradiction to how it really works. Violence can't be sanitized. Its horrifying. If the violence in an anime is disturbing, horrifying you, and making the show hard to watch and you want to turn it off, then it has succeeded in making you feel the pain that the characters felt when it happened to them.

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Devilman Crybaby was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of other violent and gory shows I've seen, but yeah, you're right, it's not comparable to Hellsing Ultimate. From what I've heard from others there were far more violent anime in the past though, the one specifically mentioned as being among the goriest being Genocyber, an OVA from 1994.


I've never seen Genocyber so its hard for me to say. Its difficult to imagine an anime being more gorey than Hellsing Ultimate but there's always a bigger fish when this stuff is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised if the goriest thing ever made is actually some really obscure hentai that belongs in the darkest depths of the internet only to be found by like 3 or 4 people.
I dont think its comical yet, but a mix of the two. It still portrays the feeling while not making me stop watching it. Evangelion is pretty violent at times, but I dont consider it gorey or comedical. I think the original LoGH also had a surprisingly violent side, when they show the ships interior and burning people. But neither of them are too much gore to watch. While violence in Kill La Kill is more comedic which also serves a purpose.
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I wouldn't go out of my way to watch a show just because it had plenty of violence in it, but violence itself in anime doesn't bother me. I got through the first episode of Elfen Lied and barely batted an eyelid.

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I actually prefer violence in anime and TV to be disturbing as opposed to the comical over the top stuff. Sanitizing violence is an inherent contradiction to how it really works. Violence can't be sanitized. Its horrifying. If the violence in an anime is disturbing, horrifying you, and making the show hard to watch and you want to turn it off, then it has succeeded in making you feel the pain that the characters felt when it happened to them.



I've never seen Genocyber so its hard for me to say. Its difficult to imagine an anime being more gorey than Hellsing Ultimate but there's always a bigger fish when this stuff is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised if the goriest thing ever made is actually some really obscure hentai that belongs in the darkest depths of the internet only to be found by like 3 or 4 people.
I dont think its comical yet, but a mix of the two. It still portrays the feeling while not making me stop watching it. Evangelion is pretty violent at times, but I dont consider it gorey or comedical. I think the original LoGH also had a surprisingly violent side, when they show the ships interior and burning people. But neither of them are too much gore to watch. While violence in Kill La Kill is more comedic which also serves a purpose.


I thought the violence in Evangelion was clearly meant to be disturbing. I thought it was very gorey.

I'm afraid I don't know what LoGH means.
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hell yeah, love seeing people chopped to bits with some nice sword slashes
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I cannot stomach gory violence in live action film but I love over the top, creative violence in animation, I enjoy gory shlock OVAs as well as cartoons like Superjail. That said... Too much stylized violence in what is meant to be an emotionally heavy scene can completely ruin the mood and cause narm. I probably would have loved Elfen Lied if it were just a shlock romp but the fact that it tried to preach to you while people are exploding into giblets... Yeah, I just ended up laughing. And I was 13 when I watched it, prime "This is so deep" edgelord age, too! Going back to Superjail... The whole show is nothing but over the top gore played for laughs, but the one time they wanted to actually have a death have some sort of emotional impact... There was not a drop of blood, and damn it, it worked.

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violence, no violence, i kind of don't care as long as it's used well
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I love violence, I want it and I need it.
I always have this dopey smile when I see the "17+ violence and profanity" line in the description.
I have to admit that I do get mentally stressed after watching one or two consecutively, but I just watch a slice of life or a comedy afterwards to refresh myself. In my case a dose of violence is like a bitter medicine whose effects are awesome, just the bitter taste and aftertaste are a necessary discomfort.
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I dont think its comical yet, but a mix of the two. It still portrays the feeling while not making me stop watching it. Evangelion is pretty violent at times, but I dont consider it gorey or comedical. I think the original LoGH also had a surprisingly violent side, when they show the ships interior and burning people. But neither of them are too much gore to watch. While violence in Kill La Kill is more comedic which also serves a purpose.


I thought the violence in Evangelion was clearly meant to be disturbing. I thought it was very gorey.

I'm afraid I don't know what LoGH means.
Yes it was definitely disturbing but in a good way.
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If there's a point to it and it's not too excessive I don't have problems with it.

When it's there just to make angsty teens cum in their pants while breathing heavily, nope, I'll pass. Nothing wrong with it, per se, but it's not for me.
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If it's sexual violence...


Okay, genuine answer. I'm not particularly interested in it but if it's the logical consequence of the type of story it is, I sure as hell don't want the show to shy away from it (e.g Vinland Saga)
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I do like it but I'm not really an action buff. Maybe something like Genocyber is right up my alley but I haven't seen it yet.
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Violence is most anime is fairly easy to watch. I think the biggest reason is that, in most shows, the violence shown doesn't accompany suffering and anguish. Whether due to being filled with adrenaline or strong will, most protagonists seem to shrug off pain as an afterthought.
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It's like videogames: it's all about context. I wouldn't let my kids play those AAA FPS games that glorify American imperialism, but kill all the Nazis you want to in Wolfenstein, kiddo.

If the anime violence punches down, I'm not interested. If it's aimed at the powerful, let's rock.
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Not gonna lie, Vinland saga's scenes where they butcher innocents or rape people make me sick in the stomach especially knowing that said things happened to countless people in the past, I do enjoy more traditional shounen type of violence where both are equal or when it's against an obviously evil force.
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my favorite genre is action, action is fighting and fighting is violence. so yeah i like violence, but i don't like it when it gone too far, such as rape, too much blood, cutting body to ashes, etc.
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Don't enjoy violence especially since I'm a sensitive person, but am fine with violent acts if it isn't shown explicitely (aka it's not gore-y), serves a purpose aka isn't just there for the edgy-factor or is used as an comedy-element.
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Violence has its place in storytelling; can't say I'm especially fond or unfond of it.

Though I do prefer that it isn't used gratuitously.
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I can't say that I enjoy it... I surely don't mind it though.
Kakugo no Susume/Apocalypse Zero is one of my favorites but it has a lot of violence lol.
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