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Oct 24, 2018 7:12 AM
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A major criminal investigation has been launched after suspected bombs were sent to the homes of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and CNN's headquarters.

The apparent explosive device targeting Mrs Clinton was discovered when screening post on Tuesday evening and the suspect packages targeting Mr Obama and the Time Warner Centre, which houses the CNN newsroom, were found on Wednesday.

It comes just days after George Soros, the billionaire philanthropist and prominent Democrat donor, was also targeted with a suspected pipe bomb.

The White House has condemned the attempted attacks, saying "these terrorising acts are despicable'".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/24/suspected-bombs-sent-hillary-clinton-barack-obama-white-house/

extremism due to politics is really on the rise there in the states

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suspect in custody

its a MAGA Bomber after all lol

A van is currently in the possession of federal authorities, and is thought to be a major piece of evidence for authorities. The van, which was covered in stickers that appeared to support right-wing and conservative causes — one sticker appeared to show Mr Trump, and another depicted the GOP insignia — was found by authorities in Plantation, Florida. Officials then placed a big blue tarp over the vehicle, and were then transporting the vehicle to a safe location

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-bomb-threats-man-arrest-suspect-packages-trump-cnn-clapper-booker-latest-a8603276.html
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Oct 24, 2018 7:56 AM
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It's hilariously transparent what type of person is behind this. I can almost guarantee this person posts on /pol/
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The suspect could be either far right or left. Everything points to the bomb mailed Soros, either side could've done this for different reasons (the far left would do this in an attempt to frame all of the right as mad bombers and uncvil while the far right would do it out of insanity).


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The suspect could be either far right or left. Everything points to the bomb mailed Soros, either side could've done this for different reasons (the far left would do this in an attempt to frame all of the right as mad bombers and uncvil while the far right would do it out of insanity).
You can't reasonably determine this stuff from behind a computer though so unless anyone actually gets caught, the best thing people can do is just forget it happened. Conspiracy is self defeating.
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Hoppy said:
The suspect could be either far right or left. Everything points to the bomb mailed Soros, either side could've done this for different reasons (the far left would do this in an attempt to frame all of the right as mad bombers and uncvil while the far right would do it out of insanity).


I mean, given the political nature of this, I'd be inclined to agree. Unless more details come out, It could be either side for different reasons like you said. Unfortunately even suggesting that someone on the left could have possibly done it would likely get you labeled with "conspiracy theorist" or some other perojative term.

Whether the person was left, right, or just plain insane, I hope they find the person who did it since that isn't anything that should be done to anyone in a civilized country.
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Can’t wait for “both sides” excuses and “well the left are violent too! Remember the time that one guy knocked a trash can over!?” The fascist right are violent, they have been responsible for acts of domestic terrorism for decades.


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Hoppy said:
The suspect could be either far right or left. Everything points to the bomb mailed Soros, either side could've done this for different reasons (the far left would do this in an attempt to frame all of the right as mad bombers and uncvil while the far right would do it out of insanity).
I mean, given the political nature of this, I'd be inclined to agree. Unless more details come out, It could be either side for different reasons like you said. Unfortunately even suggesting that someone on the left could have possibly done it would likely get you labeled with "conspiracy theorist" or some other perojative term.

Whether the person was left, right, or just plain insane, I hope they find the person who did it since that isn't anything that should be done to anyone in a civilized country.
I think it's silly to cast this in terms of "left vs right" when so little is known. That said, a reasonable default assumption would be that whoever sent the packages genuinely intended to harm or threaten. It is conspiratorial, in this case and in general, to assume that a false flag is as likely as a genuine event. False flags are not very common.
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Josh said:
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I mean, given the political nature of this, I'd be inclined to agree. Unless more details come out, It could be either side for different reasons like you said. Unfortunately even suggesting that someone on the left could have possibly done it would likely get you labeled with "conspiracy theorist" or some other perojative term.

Whether the person was left, right, or just plain insane, I hope they find the person who did it since that isn't anything that should be done to anyone in a civilized country.
I think it's silly to cast this in terms of "left vs right" when so little is known. That said, a reasonable default assumption would be that whoever sent the packages genuinely intended to harm or threaten. It is conspiratorial, in this case and in general, to assume that a false flag is as likely as a genuine event. False flags are not very common.


Where did I even say that it was common? I actually agree that there is no information so we shouldn't just jump to conclusions on "who" and "why" until more details come out. However, Just because something is uncommon, doesn't mean that it isn't possible. I just find it funny that people completely ignore the possibility, however small, that there were other motives besides some lunatic right winger.
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Josh said:
I think it's silly to cast this in terms of "left vs right" when so little is known. That said, a reasonable default assumption would be that whoever sent the packages genuinely intended to harm or threaten. It is conspiratorial, in this case and in general, to assume that a false flag is as likely as a genuine event. False flags are not very common.
Where did I even say that it was common? I actually agree that there is no information so we shouldn't just jump to conclusions on "who" and "why" until more details come out. However, Just because something is uncommon, doesn't mean that it isn't possible. I just find it funny that people completely ignore the possibility, however small, that there were other motives besides some lunatic right winger.
You and Hoppy both implied that false flags are common when you stated that it "could be either" without adding further nuance. When you're talking about the probability of different events, you generally don't describe very likely possibilities and very unlikely possibilities the same way. It's like if there was a thread about Taylor Swift cancelling her tour because she lost her voice and I replied with "Maybe she lost her voice, or maybe she lost her nerve and didn't want to perform. It could be either!" That would be silly, even though it is true, strictly speaking, that both are in the realm of the possible. It is often reasonable and rational to ignore very remote possibilities. I don't know if this is one such case, but regardless it is important to clearly distinguish between the probable and the possible. Not doing so makes you sound, yes, conspiratorial.
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inbound for one side calling it a false flag attack by the democrats and the other side calling it a attack by the republicans.

only for it to turn out to be some random anarchist who just wants to set both parties at each others throats for shits and giggles.

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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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hazarddex said:

only for it to turn out to be some random anarchist who just wants to set both parties at each others throats for shits and giggles.
Sadly I doubt it will top this.
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Josh said:
FontSize72LOL said:
Where did I even say that it was common? I actually agree that there is no information so we shouldn't just jump to conclusions on "who" and "why" until more details come out. However, Just because something is uncommon, doesn't mean that it isn't possible. I just find it funny that people completely ignore the possibility, however small, that there were other motives besides some lunatic right winger.
You and Hoppy both implied that false flags are common when you stated that it "could be either" without adding further nuance. When you're talking about the probability of different events, you generally don't describe very likely possibilities and very unlikely possibilities the same way. It's like if there was a thread about Taylor Swift cancelling her tour because she lost her voice and I replied with "Maybe she lost her voice, or maybe she lost her nerve and didn't want to perform. It could be either!" That would be silly, even though it is true, strictly speaking, that both are in the realm of the possible. It is often reasonable and rational to ignore very remote possibilities. I don't know if this is one such case, but regardless it is important to clearly distinguish between the probable and the possible. Not doing so makes you sound, yes, conspiratorial.


It is often reasonable and rational to ignore very remote possibilities.


Often reasonable and rational, doesn't mean always reasonable and/or rational.

I'm pretty sure my second post distinguished between probable and possible enough. Typically false-flags don't happen. However Typically just another way of saying "In most cases", which turned around states that in a few cases they do happen. Why does me or possibly Hoppy (since I cant speak for him or his views) having an open mind where there is a lack of factual information on the motives peeve you so much? I don't think either of us stated in certain words that we think it was a false flag.

I'm pretty sure if you boil down what I said, It comes down to this: "Without more information, it could've been anyone for any reason"

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inbound for one side calling it a false flag attack by the democrats and the other side calling it a attack by the republicans.

only for it to turn out to be some random anarchist who just wants to set both parties at each others throats for shits and giggles.



Wouldn't even surprise me either.
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hazarddex said:

only for it to turn out to be some random anarchist who just wants to set both parties at each others throats for shits and giggles.
Sadly I doubt it will top this.

well no that caused a global conflict and some one actually died in it.

this is more likely to cause more domestic violence then anything else. however, if the attempt had succeeded then you can bet there probably would have been the start of another civil war.
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Why would a pipe bomb be decorated with pictures that would be obliterated in the intended explosion?

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If there was some actual liberal deaths, I probably believe this was a real terrorist attack, but since no one is hurt, its fluke for midterm elections.

Remember to vote guys!
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I thought it said boobs sent to Hillary Clinton goddamn -


Don't worry about being lame now, you were always lame anyway!



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Bernie bros absolutely creaming themselves right now at the thought of the perp being vaguely republican.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
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Just trash, me and you
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It's hilariously transparent what type of person is behind this. I can almost guarantee this person posts on /pol/
/pol/ is hilariously transparent. as autistic as the board can be sometimes, something like this would never be able to come out of there without it being explicitally known. it's well documented the fbi/cia etc regularly browse the board, and they couldn't have possibly let this happen, right?

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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Yomiyuki said:
traed said:
It's hilariously transparent what type of person is behind this. I can almost guarantee this person posts on /pol/
/pol/ is hilariously transparent. as autistic as the board can be sometimes, something like this would never be able to come out of there without it being explicitally known. it's well documented the fbi/cia etc regularly browse the board, and they couldn't have possibly let this happen, right?


idk i think the autistic nature of crunchyrolls Miscellaneous section has /pol/ beat. i went there today and holy shit the amount of toxicness was enough to nearly kill me.
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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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Yomiyuki said:
traed said:
It's hilariously transparent what type of person is behind this. I can almost guarantee this person posts on /pol/
/pol/ is hilariously transparent. as autistic as the board can be sometimes, something like this would never be able to come out of there without it being explicitally known. it's well documented the fbi/cia etc regularly browse the board, and they couldn't have possibly let this happen, right?

I didn't say it was organised by /pol/ just same kind of that would hang out there. It's a lone attack which is what right wing extremists encourage so they don't all take the fall.
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Yomiyuki said:
/pol/ is hilariously transparent. as autistic as the board can be sometimes, something like this would never be able to come out of there without it being explicitally known. it's well documented the fbi/cia etc regularly browse the board, and they couldn't have possibly let this happen, right?

I didn't say it was organised by /pol/ just same kind of that would hang out there. It's a lone attack which is what right wing extremists encourage so they don't all take the fall.
i didn't say you did. i was just stating that i doubt it came out of there, they can't keep a secret.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair
Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



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traed said:

I didn't say it was organised by /pol/ just same kind of that would hang out there. It's a lone attack which is what right wing extremists encourage so they don't all take the fall.
i didn't say you did. i was just stating that i doubt it came out of there, they can't keep a secret.

Well I'm basically saying this person is likely familiar with all the same low brow conspiracy theories that circulate /pol/ based on targets he selected. He may also go in sites like DailyStormer and be an ex fan of Alex Jones. I haven't decided how old this person is yet.
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If you really want to get paranoid you could say that the White House did it and had the fake looking pictures on the Pipe Bombs to make people think that it was a false flag made to have the GOP look bad by Democrats. They recently reported a "Cost of Socialism" report that was hilariously awful (like saying that Margaret Thatcher was PM in 1975, that's just no) and 100% geared against Democrats not Socialists despite the title, saying that if the Democrats win that Stalin and Mao will rise from their graves and kill every America. This after Trump talking in USA Today that if the Democrats win that the USA will become Venezuela.
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idiot morons re already claiming its a fasle falg what the fuck did i even expectt
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Yep, everyone thinks it's a False-Flag by the Democrats
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Hoppy said:
The suspect could be either far right or left. Everything points to the bomb mailed Soros, either side could've done this for different reasons (the far left would do this in an attempt to frame all of the right as mad bombers and uncvil while the far right would do it out of insanity).


I mean, given the political nature of this, I'd be inclined to agree. Unless more details come out, It could be either side for different reasons like you said. Unfortunately even suggesting that someone on the left could have possibly done it would likely get you labeled with "conspiracy theorist" or some other perojative term.

Whether the person was left, right, or just plain insane, I hope they find the person who did it since that isn't anything that should be done to anyone in a civilized country.
Yeah, random speculation that blames an entire political spectrum is conspiracy theorizing in the same way blaming bush for 9/11 (again) is. Derogatory comments to either political spectrum just set up straw man positions, and the people that are trying to convince others that this news is serious proof of anything truly think Americans are stupid as heck.
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Excellent. Remember to vote CIA Democrat kiddos. Unless you happen to think this a false flag, then, you must vote for Republicans you freaking owe us big time now. *flips chessboard*
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Why don't any news from the United States surprise me anymore?


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If you really want to get paranoid you could say that the White House did it and had the fake looking pictures on the Pipe Bombs to make people think that it was a false flag made to have the GOP look bad by Democrats. They recently reported a "Cost of Socialism" report that was hilariously awful (like saying that Margaret Thatcher was PM in 1975, that's just no) and 100% geared against Democrats not Socialists despite the title, saying that if the Democrats win that Stalin and Mao will rise from their graves and kill every America. This after Trump talking in USA Today that if the Democrats win that the USA will become Venezuela.


HEY! What about that one time we caught that Chinese spy Feinstein had working for her for twenty years man? WHAT ABOUT THAT!!!

A former top CIA clandestine officer explained to me what the agency would do if they had recruited the driver of a senior official like Feinstein. “We would have the driver record on his phone all conversations that Feinstein would have with passengers and phone calls in her car. If she left her phone, iPad or laptop in the car while she went to meetings, social events, dinners, etc., we would have the driver download all her devices. If the driver drove for her for 20 years he would probably would have had access to her office and homes. We would have had the source put down an audio device in her office or homes if the opportunity presented itself. Depending on the take from all of what the source reported, we would use the info to target others that were close to her and exhibited some type of vulnerability.”


Plus the socialist started it first man.

An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department are seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence personnel into the legislature has no precedent in US political history.

If the Democrats capture a majority in the House of Representatives on November 6, as widely predicted, candidates drawn from the military-intelligence apparatus will comprise as many as half of the new Democratic members of Congress. They will hold the balance of power in the lower chamber of Congress.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html
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Yep, everyone thinks it's a False-Flag by the Democrats


I saw some say it's a false flag by the the Republican lead government against the Democrats by hiding it as a false flag against the Republicans lol Which as absurd as it is is more plausible because it was functional explosives, it just didnt detonate.
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Of course now moronic Right-Wingers are claiming “False Flag”.

Is ANYTHING real in the minds of Right-Wingers?

Like seriously EVERYTHING is fucking FAKE to them.

Oh well, the Bible and Christianity is ironically very REAL to them tho.

Jesus, these fucking people.
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None of you realize that the political left-right paradigm is a hoax, created by the elites, to distract middle-class peopleーall of this partisan drama is a distraction while the plutocrats do something more sinister behind closed doors. All of you who claim political loyalty to one side or the other are, essentially, getting played like puppets. Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, & the Clintons are all on the same team. We are the ones being led astray.

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Well anyways. Make sure to vote and post your ballots.
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If this is real and not some plot to further their own political agenda I'm so, so disappointed in the guy that tried to take them out this way (Particularly Soros).

Seriously, bomb by mail? What is this? 1947? Is the Unabomber still cool? smh.
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If this is real and not some plot to further their own political agenda I'm so, so disappointed in the guy that tried to take them out this way (Particularly Soros).

Seriously, bomb by mail? What is this? 1947? Is the Unabomber still cool? smh.

I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.
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Well anyways. Make sure to vote and post your ballots.


I am not the village-crazyーlook into the correlation between freemasonry & political candidates, as well as the similarities between FOX & CNN; as well as the affluence of the names behind their funding. I’m not trying to be confrontational, I just wanted to let you know that my claims aren’t unfounded & I’ve done so much research on media misinformation that I could probably write novels on the subject.

The foundation of our democratic (/airquotes) society has been run by secret organizations and less concealed organisations, like the Bilderberg group. It’s become so bad that the elites have created controlled-opposition, like Alex Jones, to make people like me, who actually question the monarchal system, look like raving lunatics. George Soros is used as a scapegoat to distract people from the main perpatrators. They think that if they put out a million different stories in the newsーthat it will placate the sheep; they think we’re morons.

Pay attention to the hand symbols, the backwards recordings of speeches, and cryptic things that certain celebrities and politicians say & use. It is not a coincidence. I am trying to get people to actually research things in-depth, instead of regurgitating the same old coaqualisms that they’re accustomed to through years of indoctrination.
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If this is real and not some plot to further their own political agenda I'm so, so disappointed in the guy that tried to take them out this way (Particularly Soros).

Seriously, bomb by mail? What is this? 1947? Is the Unabomber still cool? smh.

I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.
This.

Every former US president has Secret Service protection for 10 years after they leave office (meaning Dubya has it until January of next year and Obama until January of 2027), and most high-level government officials probably do too. Even the ones that don't will in most cases probably hire people privately to sort through the mail. None of the bombs went off and one was even confirmed a fake after the pipe was found to have harmless powder inside of it. There's also the "Get R Done" ISIS flag, the improperly stamped postage, and the clock bomb that doesn't have an alarm function (and thus no mechanism to detonate the bomb). I hate to cry wolf to the people who complain about "right wingers claiming this to be a false flag" but this smells like a false flag to me, either that or the person who did this is a complete idiot.
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Bernie bros absolutely creaming themselves right now at the thought of the perp being vaguely republican.


Why would that be the case? "Bernie bros" hate neoliberals (Clinton, Obama, etc).
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5layer said:
Guilion said:
If this is real and not some plot to further their own political agenda I'm so, so disappointed in the guy that tried to take them out this way (Particularly Soros).

Seriously, bomb by mail? What is this? 1947? Is the Unabomber still cool? smh.

I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.

I'm not outruling the possibility of someone being this stupid trying this. I've learned if you place your faith in humanity and try to believe in the logical answer humanity will always disappoint you in the end.
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I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.

I'm not outruling the possibility of someone being this stupid trying this. I've learned if you place your faith in humanity and try to believe in the logical answer humanity will always disappoint you in the end.


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Well anyways. Make sure to vote and post your ballots.

i'm so glad my school has a voting setup tbh
although i was one of the younger people on the ballot, i only saw one person younger than me on the sticker sheet....
come on young people, vote!
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I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.
This.

Every former US president has Secret Service protection for 10 years after they leave office (meaning Dubya has it until January of next year and Obama until January of 2027), and most high-level government officials probably do too. Even the ones that don't will in most cases probably hire people privately to sort through the mail. None of the bombs went off and one was even confirmed a fake after the pipe was found to have harmless powder inside of it. There's also the "Get R Done" ISIS flag, the improperly stamped postage, and the clock bomb that doesn't have an alarm function (and thus no mechanism to detonate the bomb). I hate to cry wolf to the people who complain about "right wingers claiming this to be a false flag" but this smells like a false flag to me, either that or the person who did this is a complete idiot.

The safer bet is they're an idiot. Not only did they effectively leave a huge trail part of that includes hand delivering a package to a neighborhood that has security cameras.
Like if it was actually a false flag the only event it would correlate to is the midterms, and with the huge amount of evidence they would have to think the FBI is too incompetent to find them within a 2 week time period.
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None of you realize that the political left-right paradigm is a hoax, created by the elites, to distract middle-class peopleーall of this partisan drama is a distraction while the plutocrats do something more sinister behind closed doors. All of you who claim political loyalty to one side or the other are, essentially, getting played like puppets. Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, & the Clintons are all on the same team. We are the ones being led astray.

Politicians are selected, not elected.

it's always sad to see benign discussions and alex once again missing the point on things while posts like this are ignored.

Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear
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Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places
But we're trash, you and me
We're the litter on the breeze
We're the lovers on the streets
Just trash, me and you
It's in everything we do
It's in everything we do



Oct 25, 2018 3:46 PM

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Trump's level of self-awareness is almost indescribably low.
Oct 25, 2018 3:52 PM

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Trump's level of self-awareness is almost indescribably low.


Except he isn't exactly wrong. Wont go into whether or not CNN is fake news, but I've seen many examples where they purposefully take things he says out of context or without giving full context which often changes the meaning of what he says. At best that kind of behavior is unprofessional, at worst, its outright malicious. I don't particularly agree with everything Trump does, or even really like him as a person I don't particularly hate him either, but that is the modern state of the news I guess.

Didn't CNN actually lose a lawsuit against Trump for basically doing the above recently?
Oct 25, 2018 4:07 PM

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Voldo said:


Trump's level of self-awareness is almost indescribably low.


Except he isn't exactly wrong. Wont go into whether or not CNN is fake news, but I've seen many examples where they purposefully take things he says out of context or without giving full context which often changes the meaning of what he says. At best that kind of behavior is unprofessional, at worst, its outright malicious. I don't particularly agree with everything Trump does, or even really like him as a person I don't particularly hate him either, but that is the modern state of the news I guess.

Didn't CNN actually lose a lawsuit against Trump for basically doing the above recently?

From the list of controversies they have no that never happened. They almost got into a lawsuit with Anthony Scaramucci because an anonymous source tried to link him to a $10 billion Russian investment fund. The result of which three journalists resigned and they issued an apology for the story. But there hasn't been any Trump related lawsuits that I could find.

But the obvious tone deafness here is CNN received one of the packages. So is the assumption here he's saying CNN deserved it for their coverage of him?
Oct 25, 2018 4:20 PM

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GamerDLM said:
FontSize72LOL said:


Except he isn't exactly wrong. Wont go into whether or not CNN is fake news, but I've seen many examples where they purposefully take things he says out of context or without giving full context which often changes the meaning of what he says. At best that kind of behavior is unprofessional, at worst, its outright malicious. I don't particularly agree with everything Trump does, or even really like him as a person I don't particularly hate him either, but that is the modern state of the news I guess.

Didn't CNN actually lose a lawsuit against Trump for basically doing the above recently?

From the list of controversies they have no that never happened. They almost got into a lawsuit with Anthony Scaramucci because an anonymous source tried to link him to a $10 billion Russian investment fund. The result of which three journalists resigned and they issued an apology for the story. But there hasn't been any Trump related lawsuits that I could find.

But the obvious tone deafness here is CNN received one of the packages. So is the assumption here he's saying CNN deserved it for their coverage of him?


Well, that wasn't something I particularly researched but I remembered seeing something but I could've been mistaken on what it was about.

Well, a lot of Media has been speculating that this could have been partially motivated by the toxic atmosphere around politics lately. I'm sure he doesn't like CNN but I don't think this tweet was sent out with that direct message in mind.
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FontSize72LOL said:
GamerDLM said:

From the list of controversies they have no that never happened. They almost got into a lawsuit with Anthony Scaramucci because an anonymous source tried to link him to a $10 billion Russian investment fund. The result of which three journalists resigned and they issued an apology for the story. But there hasn't been any Trump related lawsuits that I could find.

But the obvious tone deafness here is CNN received one of the packages. So is the assumption here he's saying CNN deserved it for their coverage of him?


Well, that wasn't something I particularly researched but I remembered seeing something but I could've been mistaken on what it was about.

Well, a lot of Media has been speculating that this could have been partially motivated by the toxic atmosphere around politics lately. I'm sure he doesn't like CNN but I don't think this tweet was sent out with that direct message in mind.

But then it brings up the issue of self awareness. He hasn't exactly been building bridges with any of the individuals targeted by the packages or the groups they're related with. It's also still in poor taste for him to be calling out and blaming the media given his history of targeting CNN in particular.
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If this is real and not some plot to further their own political agenda I'm so, so disappointed in the guy that tried to take them out this way (Particularly Soros).

Seriously, bomb by mail? What is this? 1947? Is the Unabomber still cool? smh.

I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.

You don't have to be smart to make a bomb you just need to read instructions obtained online. Even on the clearnet there are bomb making instructions.

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None of you realize that the political left-right paradigm is a hoax, created by the elites, to distract middle-class peopleーall of this partisan drama is a distraction while the plutocrats do something more sinister behind closed doors. All of you who claim political loyalty to one side or the other are, essentially, getting played like puppets. Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, & the Clintons are all on the same team. We are the ones being led astray.

Politicians are selected, not elected.

This is retarded. They are selected by the huge doners. Basically who wins is whoever has the most funds. Both parties aren't that far appart though so they often get supporters switching back and forth or funding both.

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Every former US president has Secret Service protection for 10 years after they leave office (meaning Dubya has it until January of next year and Obama until January of 2027), and most high-level government officials probably do too. Even the ones that don't will in most cases probably hire people privately to sort through the mail. None of the bombs went off and one was even confirmed a fake after the pipe was found to have harmless powder inside of it. There's also the "Get R Done" ISIS flag, the improperly stamped postage, and the clock bomb that doesn't have an alarm function (and thus no mechanism to detonate the bomb). I hate to cry wolf to the people who complain about "right wingers claiming this to be a false flag" but this smells like a false flag to me, either that or the person who did this is a complete idiot.


Pro tip...people can be morons and it's a reasonable mistake to not look into who has protection and the person could easily have gotten instructions or fake instructions online.

It smells like a false flag to you because you overestimate right wing extremists like they are geniuses because you're embarassed your bedmates with them.
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5layer said:

I doubt it's real. Anybody who knows how to make a bomb isn't going to be dumb enough to think that Soros opens his own mail. Same goes for the other recipients.

You don't have to be smart to make a bomb you just need to read instructions obtained online. Even on the clearnet there are bomb making instructions.

So because there are instructions online, you don't have to be smart to do it. Spoken like a true expert.
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