| studio manglobe is literally dead lol and no; i want more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear? |
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romagia said: studio manglobe is literally dead lol and no; everyone wants more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear? Pffft. Magical High school Ecchi battle Harem > Ecchi battle Harem |
Randoll_ said: no, it seems notromagia said: studio manglobe is literally dead lol and no; i want more ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes.. is this what you want to hear? They are dead because they stopped making good anime, so why is anime killing itself? Next studio to follow is Madhouse it seems. What do you like so much about ecchi battle harem light novel adaptations of 13 episodes? madhouse wont die anytime soon |
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Randoll_ said: miles ahead of manglobe, yesromagia said: no, it seems not madhouse wont die anytime soon They were almost dead not that long ago and look at its sales. |
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Randoll_ said: so they will not die anytime soonromagia said: miles ahead of manglobe, yes They are making more anime so of course they have better sales. bam |
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Randoll_ said: SuperRed said: Because they are boring af. what makes them boring af? I don't like cerebral anime like Serial Experiments Lain that much, which is supposedly a lot like EP so I doubt I would enjoy it more, I prefer anime with easier to follow storytelling and that don't require a lot of analysis, that's just me and others people preference though, it's fine if you like that stuff. |
Randoll_ said: How comes that anime like Ergo Proxy aren't being made anymore and would you want more? Anime with deep, thoughtful story lines are general perceived to be "risky" to develop as they won't appeal to a larger audience in the short term. Often edgy, "meaning of life" animes like Ergo Proxy only start to become appreciated a couple of years after their release, and they become what they call "cult classics". Considering that anime studios are businesses after all, with staff to pay, they aren't going to wait that long to see a return on their investment, so they rather just focus on developing easy to appreciate shonen anime with romance, action scenes, magic, fan service, etc. Deep and thoughtful animes only get released once or maybe twice a year. |
Randoll_ said: did they? HxH, Mahouka, NGNL, Overlord, OPM all came after that news post and were rather successfulromagia said: so they will not die anytime soon bam http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=284403 and their anime only got worse. |
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| i wonder.. sometimes, these more adult oriented anime can be successful in ratings, but not in dvd sales, and i'd still count them as successful we had a really nice thread about ratings some time ago, and this post i find particularly relevant http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1361735&show=100#msg41252137 Monster, Hajime no Ippo, Chihayafuru and Kaiji all had good ratings the fact that they got sequels indicates they were pretty successful, despite low sales Death Parade or Parasyte might be in the same situation, but these data aren't tracked anymore i think |
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| TIL about the mappa thing Monster was a complete adaptation, and while technically one season, it's still longer than many series well, they're still alive, and with some really good sales lately, so i'm optimistic about their future |
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| Because it is experimental epic thoughtful mystic . Not sexy or pandering to many groups Aloot of people want pandering no matter what they say or act. |
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Randoll_ said: How comes that anime like Ergo Proxy aren't being made anymore and would you want more? First of all, somebody has to write a novel/manga like Ergo Proxy. Really good stuff isn't easy to make. Next, it has to be published. Publishers are dumb, and think the readers are even dumber. So it can be hard to publish, unless you can cheat the market by selling it as a doujin porn game or something. Or you have a Name so famous publishers will publish anything you do, and fans will flock and buy all of it before it even hits the shelves. Next, it has to become popular enough that somebody gets an idea to make it into an anime. Besides being good, the work also needs to hit the right spot with the readers for that. Oh, and the anime publishers are as dumb and even more condensing than manga/novel publishers. |
oreology said: #inb4animuisdying That would imply that Ergo Proxy was great. There are already dozen of shows of equal quality, like Fate Zero and Psycho Pass. |
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Randoll_ said: Exowave said: Because it is experimental thoughtful and mystic. Not sexy or pandering to many groups People want pandering. It panders to intelligent people. I know that i liked it aloot. |
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Randoll_ said: it's all subjective :^)ZetaZaku said: That would imply that Ergo Proxy was great. There are already dozen of shows of equal quality, like Fate Zero and Psycho Pass. Oh please, how is Ergo Proxy equal in quality to F/Z and Psycho Pass? |
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| The market just isn't as big for dark, deep, serious anime. Most people would rather laugh or fap, which is perfectly fine. There are some thought-provoking cyberpunk anime hidden in the mix if you know where to look though. Give Ghost in the Shell (1995) and Mardock Scramble a try. |
| because cyberpunk is reaching its limit |
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| Because it wasn't good. |
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| japanese would prefer somthing that more appeal to them rather than not. |
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Randoll_ said: aikaflip said: The market just isn't as big for dark, deep, serious anime. Most people would rather laugh or fap, which is perfectly fine. There are some thought-provoking cyberpunk anime hidden in the mix if you know where to look though. Give Ghost in the Shell (1995) and Mardock Scramble a try. But Ghost in the Shell is so popular, I don't get why they are making more cyberpunk anime? Oh, that reminds. Production IG just released a new Ghost in the Shell movie. http://myanimelist.net/anime/27411 Anime like Ghost in the Shell probably isn't as profitable anymore as something like Attack on Titan and Shigatsu, so they don't make them as much anymore. It sucks, but there's not much we can do about it. |
ghoullovesharem said: because cyberpunk is reaching its limit |
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| because technologies nowadays are speculating on sci-fi, instead the contrary therefore |
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Randoll_ said: Is the new movie worth checking out? I wasn't too found of Arise. I haven't seen it yet. I'm way behind on the Ghost in the Shell series. I've only seen the first two movies. |
| because anime studios are to busy winning monen with harens and moeshit so the can not do good shows |
Praland said: Because it wasn't good. |
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Randoll_ said: Is the new movie worth checking out? I wasn't too found of Arise. If you didn't like Arise chances are you won't like the new movie either. It's more of the same. More emphasis on the action than the actual case. |
| In an interview with it's creators http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/mechademia/v004/4.scally.html They explain that it wasn't very popular in Japan because most Japanese people didn't get it. The references aren't something that the Japanese are familiar with. The plot is also a mess. |
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SuperRed said: Randoll_ said: what makes them boring af? I don't like cerebral anime like Serial Experiments Lain that much, which is supposedly a lot like EP so I doubt I would enjoy it more, I prefer anime with easier to follow storytelling and that don't require a lot of analysis, that's just me and others people preference though, it's fine if you like that stuff. Ergo Proxy is more watchable than SEL tho |
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romagia said: Monster, Hajime no Ippo, Chihayafuru and Kaiji all had good ratings the fact that they got sequels indicates they were pretty successful, despite low sales At least in the case of Chihayafuru I'd argue it was the substantial boost the anime gave to manga sales that played the major role in the show getting a second season. The volume released before the anime began sold about 40,000 copies. The first volume afterward sold nearly 200,000. The strong sales continued, and Chihayafuru ended up ranked in the top-20 for sales in 2013. |
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