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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- No meaning if not serving Master Shu huh? I think he got that point across pretty damn straight this chapter. I'm finding this whole family investigation/operation to be quite interesting and the term..Rose. |
Stark700Jun 27, 2015 6:58 PM
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| Pretty good buildup chapter with some new/old returning casts and new mysteries. Shirazu's character got fleshed out which is good and I'm glad it finally did. It was already hinted he had a bad past before but that dream was still a tad bit disturbing and Nutcracker's last words seems to have left a greater impact than I expected. His little conversation with Haise was also much deeper than it appears to be. Still no sign of Hirako? You know, I'm really starting to wonder if it has to do with the recent promotions that happened. Perhaps Uta's words during the auction arc was the catalyst for all this to happen. Besides I still can't understand how he hasn't gotten promoted since the Anteiku Raid. There's also that suspicious new girl who appears to have some sort of interest in Haise. Heck who knows? Maybe it has to do something with the fight in V14 back when Arima handed Kaneki's ass to him considering she used to be part of the hooded people in Arima's squad. Its also good to see Fura again, kind of shows Ishida hasn't forgotten about his old characters. |
Z4KJun 27, 2015 9:32 PM
| Shirazu and Saiko feeling bothered for not being invited to the previous meetings was pretty funny. "I'm even the squad leader" & "And I'm even the Yonebayashi" Lol. Good to see Koori and Fura return. Ihei seems to be a bit interested in Sasaki. She's also quite young to have fought in operation Owl with Arima's squad. Liked the little conversation between Shirazu and Sasaki. That dream in the beginning was pretty disturbing. The phrase "I want to become beautiful" (Nutcracker's last words) affected Shirazu a lot more than I expected. Wonder what Chie meant by "Could you throw away your family for Tsukiyama's sake?" As in Kanae feeding his family to his master so he can survive longer? That'd be grim AF. |
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| Shirazu has PTSD and we learn a bit of his past. Looks like his father committed suicide. Ihei became an investigator at 16, the same age as Arima. She's also a part of Squad 0. I wonder if Ishida will show us the remaining 5 members in the future. Hirako hasn't been to any major events since the Auction raid. The higher ups seem worried about the future of the CCG's leadership. |
AvaritiaJun 28, 2015 12:17 AM
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| This is the first chapter in which Marude is not a total dick. I like the new girl, she's kinda funny. It looks like that Chie wants for Kanae to leave since CCG will come after him and that means they may discover that Tsukiyama family is a ghoul family(They could even decide to raid Tsukiyama household). |
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| I think what chie meant is that kanae is being obvious to the ccg and he could get his small family discovered by being so reckless for tsukiyama. Thus he's willing to throw them away for shuu. Keeping up with ccg names is too much for me... I don't even remember who hirako or take is... I should reread tgre I'm still confused about haise's hair. Shirazu is really making me like him. I like tooru the best out of the qs but shirazu is making his way into that spot. |
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| Proper chapter. Shirazu, his dreams and the reaction to the quinqe are disturbing. He's becoming an interesting character. That new character looks really nice, Urie is prolly gonna bark at her because she's more sucessful. What's with Hirako? Kanae losing himself, don't yell at Chie :( Heh, Kaneki is so nice, he became friendly with that horrific Kojima dude in no time :D Can't wait to see this arc unfold. |
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| Nice build-up chapter. Something about Ihe is kinda ticking me off right now, but I'm sure she'll turn out badass so I'm gonna give her a chance. Even Marude is better than Washu. Sure, you can sacrifice your investigators to get rid of ghouls, but then you lose some of your strongest humans unnecessarily. Yeah, they're always training new recruits but they're far less experienced and some talent can't be replaced. I hate the mentality that it's okay if a ton of your fighters get killed off so long as you achieve your objective. The photographer girl is interesting, we should see more of her. Kinda feel like Kanae's gonna die... And now we're finally getting introduced Shirazu's backstory. It looks like he went through a lot... :( |
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| When the other guy said "Hello eyepatch" I was surprised cause I thought he was talking to Sasaki(Kaneki) for a moment. And that it became common knowledge between the other investigators about who the Eyepatch ghoul used to be, until I realized it was Tooru. Yesss we'll finally learn more about my fave QS member. Although it is a pretty sad past, I really want to know how his character came to be the one we have now. |
| Chie is very interesting, indeed, Excited to see what she will do next. |
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| "I'm just a random old guy passing by, so I figured I could explain the plot." It happens every time. Loved it x) That dream was interesting. |
Craftworld_MM said: Proper chapter. Shirazu, his dreams and the reaction to the quinqe are disturbing. He's becoming an interesting character. That new character looks really nice, Urie is prolly gonna bark at her because she's more sucessful. What's with Hirako? Kanae losing himself, don't yell at Chie :( Heh, Kaneki is so nice, he became friendly with that horrific Kojima dude in no time :D Can't wait to see this arc unfold. |
| Wow, there was some pretty interesting events in this chapter. It's nice to see some new characters as well. |
| Ihei in the Owl fight: http://i.imgur.com/AQyTLvO.png?1 She adresses Ui as "senpai" and calls hims by his first name just like she was about to do in this chapter. |
| Hopefully this new chuck will mend the hole in my heart due to Nutcrackers' death :( Damn you Shirazu!!!!!! That chimera quinque better be amazing TwT |
| The "12" on Shirazu. --> Hanged Man. Anyone noticed this? |
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| Tsukiyama seems to be desolate without Kaneki... Don't worry Tsukiyama, we all feel like that! :( |
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| Feel so bad for Shizaru... I'm glad to see someone feeling conflicted about killing ghouls. simonprasad said: The "12" on Shirazu. --> Hanged Man. Anyone noticed this? ooh, nice catch :o |
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| I cracked up at the passing old man thing... |
RemixX said: Tokyo Ghoul already has a large character cast... we don't really need anymore lol! I hope Ishida-sensei can properly develop each character in both the old and new cast Alright then how will you give some background regarding the V organization and their members or the Washuu clan if you're not supposed to introduce more characters in your story? |
Mack2 said: hahaha, now :re is too slow and it has too many characters.... u fuckin ADHD potatoes crack me up. like the n00bs who watched the first season of true detective and cried about how slow it was, u can sit in the back of the bus. go watch an avengers movie or something more suited to your pace instead. ur whiny perceptions contribute nothing and ur opinions are meaningless. ^ Preach it |
Mack2 said: hahaha, now :re is too slow and it has too many characters.... u fuckin ADHD potatoes crack me up. ur whiny perceptions contribute nothing and ur opinions are meaningless. Well, I have no problem with the pacing of the story, and I wouldn't have any issues with new characters IF they weren't the focus of the story. The legitimately good characters from the first series have been abandoned to focus on a team I couldn't care less about. We can go anywhere to find a police procedural, I personally came for a story following the ghouls, that's nowhere to be found. Oh, and all opinions are meaningless, mine, yours, everyone's on this thread, everyone's in the world. Opinions are subjective and can only be applied arbitrary values. |
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| Pretty good build up chapter. Shirazu has a pretty dark past.... |
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| Mutsuki is the new Eyepatch or CCG's Eyepatch. |
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| with that freaky blanket it's no surprise you get nightmares shirazu seems shirazu did see too many weird shits lately oh, hori chie, still not sure if he's part of tsukiyama's or not, he's been meddling a lot in the past and he's always so well informed |
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| lol good characters in the first series? Like who? How is any of the old cast a better character than any of the quinx? You're all adorable. Oh, and stop acting like the old cast has just been forgotten. They are just not in the focus right now, if your suave minds can't understand that and you don't like this... well you could just... ehm... you know... fluff off? Edit: Plus, you are too adorable to realize that some of the characters that you think "were introduced" in this chapter were actually introduced in the first part of the manga and just now we get more about them. But once again, you are way too adorable to realize what the flip is going on in this manga. |
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| I keep forgetting who Hirako is lol Have to keep going back to the character profiles then I''ll be like "oh him, now I remember..." lots of characters to keep up but his the one just keeps getting to me. |
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frankykun13 said: Koori is a dude, I'm not kidding. Guess his hair is going white too, nice touch but at this time everyone is popping up with white hair it seems kinda forced.more depth to Shirazu's character ... saiko should be the next one to be explore deeper then .. um.. That koori Ul is a woman right , based on her outfit matching with Ihe. I always wonder from the TG about Ul's gender -.- nice to see Fura again too. |
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Craftworld_MM said: frankykun13 said: Koori is a dude, I'm not kidding. Guess his hair is going white too, nice touch but at this time everyone is popping up with white hair it seems kinda forced.more depth to Shirazu's character ... saiko should be the next one to be explore deeper then .. um.. That koori Ul is a woman right , based on her outfit matching with Ihe. I always wonder from the TG about Ul's gender -.- nice to see Fura again too. Its not white. Look at the other panels of him. |
| nutcracker and shirazu's dad are the same with their beauty thing. what does the matsuri thing mean? does he want to preserve the washu or not? |
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ichii_1 said: nutcracker and shirazu's dad are the same with their beauty thing. what does the matsuri thing mean? does he want to preserve the washu or not? He wants Yoshitoki's spot. |
Mack2 said: TheHonestThief said: Well, I have no problem with the pacing of the story, and I wouldn't have any issues with new characters IF they weren't the focus of the story. The legitimately good characters from the first series have been abandoned to focus on a team I couldn't care less about. We can go anywhere to find a police procedural, I personally came for a story following the ghouls, that's nowhere to be found. police procedural. LMAO. confirmed potato TheHonestThief said: Oh, and all opinions are meaningless, mine, yours, everyone's on this thread, everyone's in the world. Opinions are subjective and can only be applied arbitrary values. nobody asked for an academic lesson on subjectivity, nietzsche. by ur superficial standards I could come back here week after week whining about how retarded shirazu's hair is and it'd be equivalent to relevant analysis, like the tarot 12 sighting. I don't come here to see ur personal gripes about how much u hate the current character focus and I will take every opportunity to berate potato opinions like urs Nothing you wrote even merits a legitimate response beyond the acknowledgement of its existence. Au revoir. |
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Arcanix said: lol good characters in the first series? Like who? How is any of the old cast a better character than any of the quinx? You're all adorable. Oh, and stop acting like the old cast has just been forgotten. They are just not in the focus right now, if your suave minds can't understand that and you don't like this... well you could just... ehm... you know... fluff off? Edit: Plus, you are too adorable to realize that some of the characters that you think "were introduced" in this chapter were actually introduced in the first part of the manga and just now we get more about them. But once again, you are way too adorable to realize what the flip is going on in this manga. All of Anteiku and Kaneki's group, there's your better characters. Forgotten can be taken as a spectrum. The entire old cast is the very definition of background characters. I never once said they'd been forgotten all together, but that is my gripe, that they were shoved to the side at all. Adorable? Not the best word choice there mate, plus, I never commented on the characters they showed this chapter, I was referring to the Quinx squad. Perhaps you were addressing the other people who commented, but I am loathe to believe that considering the singular usage of "you" rather than "you all". |
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| So considering that the quinx are here for 34 chapters and the old characters are there for a longer time... could you like tell me what makes Touka/Nishiki/anyone a better character in your eyes than any quinx that isn't Saiko? Because in my opinion the only good character that was shoved aside after being in the spotlight for a long time is Amon and he is going to show up. |
ArcanixJun 29, 2015 1:09 PM
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TheHonestThief said: Arcanix said: lol good characters in the first series? Like who? How is any of the old cast a better character than any of the quinx? You're all adorable. Oh, and stop acting like the old cast has just been forgotten. They are just not in the focus right now, if your suave minds can't understand that and you don't like this... well you could just... ehm... you know... fluff off? Edit: Plus, you are too adorable to realize that some of the characters that you think "were introduced" in this chapter were actually introduced in the first part of the manga and just now we get more about them. But once again, you are way too adorable to realize what the flip is going on in this manga. All of Anteiku and Kaneki's group, there's your better characters. Forgotten can be taken as a spectrum. The entire old cast is the very definition of background characters. I never once said they'd been forgotten all together, but that is my gripe, that they were shoved to the side at all. I didn't want to get involved but you're clearly wrong here. Comparing the first 34 chapters of Tokyo ghoul and :re, anyone would easily agree that the Q's have been fleshed out and developed more than the anteiku members. As a result, the Q's would be the better characters here. |
Z4KJun 29, 2015 1:25 PM
Z4k said: TheHonestThief said: All of Anteiku and Kaneki's group, there's your better characters. Forgotten can be taken as a spectrum. The entire old cast is the very definition of background characters. I never once said they'd been forgotten all together, but that is my gripe, that they were shoved to the side at all. I didn't want to get involved but you're clearly wrong here. Comparing the first 34 chapters of Tokyo ghoul and :re, anyone would easily agree that the Q's have been fleshed out and developed more than the anteiku members. As a result, the Q's are the better characters here. You're mistaking good development with rushed development/insight. |
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Z4k said: I didn't want to get involved but you're clearly wrong here. Comparing the first 34 chapters of Tokyo ghoul and :re, anyone would easily agree that the Q's have been fleshed out and developed more than the anteiku members. There is no need to compare just the first 34 chapters. We can take every single character... Hinami - she is basically in the focus right now. Shu- again basically in the focus right now. Amon- he is around And here i draw the line ----------------------------- Nishiki is on the line. Next are the shit characters that i wont bother to mention. Probably forgot some but you get the point. Guess i'll mention some. Touka in my eyes is a mediocre character that did nothing except acting like a bitch the whole manga. Banjo... whatever we got nothing on the guy. Ya he is nice. Hmm, what other characters were in the focus and are now "not in the focus"? TheHonestThief said: You're mistaking good development with rushed development/insight. Do you have anything else to say? Please give me examples of that good development. |
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TheHonestThief said: Z4k said: I didn't want to get involved but you're clearly wrong here. Comparing the first 34 chapters of Tokyo ghoul and :re, anyone would easily agree that the Q's have been fleshed out and developed more than the anteiku members. As a result, the Q's are the better characters here. You're mistaking good development with rushed development/insight. Briefly explain how the anteiku members were the better characters. You can only use the first 34 chapters because I'd like to see your example of good development here. Arcanix said: Z4k said: I didn't want to get involved but you're clearly wrong here. Comparing the first 34 chapters of Tokyo ghoul and :re, anyone would easily agree that the Q's have been fleshed out and developed more than the anteiku members. There is no need to compare just the first 34 chapters. We can take every single character... Hinami - she is basically in the focus right now. Shu- again basically in the focus right now. Amon- he is around And here i draw the line ----------------------------- Nishiki is on the line. Next are the shit characters that i wont bother to mention. Probably forgot some but you get the point. Guess i'll mention some. Touka in my eyes is a mediocre character that did nothing except acting like a bitch the whole manga. Banjo... whatever we got nothing on the guy. Ya he is nice. Hmm, what other characters were in the focus and are now "not in the focus"? Yeah you're not wrong about that but I was referring to his other point. At this point the anteiku members were clearly not the better characters and lacked proper development. |
Z4KJun 29, 2015 1:38 PM
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