| I guess for me the Disney classics were the best and they were 2D animated. To me these movies were so magical and memorable and I wonder why Disney do not create 2D animated movies any more. Also remember it was Disney movies like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves that influenced the creation of Japanese Anime. Here's a link to Disney's 2012 short animated film Paperman which has recently become one of my favourite Disney animations, it is a mix of traditional 2D and 3D. It was the last time that I saw that Disney magic in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxJkKiHXbw |
AzlanMar 5, 2014 2:19 AM
| Because that is grandpa animation and that is bad. |
| Because traditional cel animation requires thousands of drawings and years of hard work, while you can do that relatively fast/cheap in 3D. |
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| 3d animation is the future for Disney. Would be kinda odd for them to go back to 'sub-par' 2d animation again.Innovate a bit, yknow. Leave traditional 2d animation to Japan. |
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| I love Disney's 2D films. I find it sad they haven't produced one in such a long time. The last time they did a 2D movies was The Princess and the Frog back in 2009. I have no idea, hopefully someone can give a good answer that isn't "2D sucks". |
| Another thing to consider is that it is just part of the times. What became popular recently was 3D animation and it's continuing to progress. So part of it is what's selling. So to suddenly go back to something like a 2D animated film it wouldn't do as well simply because everyone else isn't and it might not appeal as much to children because now they are used to seeing 3D animation and are growing up with it. Among all the other factors everyone else mentioned. |
animeoppai said: The last time they did a 2D movies was The Princess and the Frog back in 2009. Actually the last one was Winnie the Pooh from 2011. But yeah, Princes and the Frog was their last original work, and they didn't continue making more 2D because, well, it simply didn't sell that good. And the Tangled which came out one year later made a shit ton of money and became super popular. People, especially kids just aren't into 2D animation anymore, and adults often think that 3D animation = more adult jokes like in the Shrek... Which isn't entirely true, Tangled were your typical princess fairy tale. I could watch both, but to be honest Disney's last 2D works weren't that impressive, so I don't mind a good 3D animation movie. |
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| Because Disney is lazy to draw any more I think frozen would of been better if it was 2D |
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Kitsu-nee said: Fucking kids ruining everything. No but seriously, the older 2D animation looked beautiful and simple which I like. Not saying I don't like 3D movies, I love the art in Tangled and Frozen and the other 3D movies but it doesn't have that authentic Disney feel, at least to me.animeoppai said: The last time they did a 2D movies was The Princess and the Frog back in 2009. Actually the last one was Winnie the Pooh from 2011. But yeah, Princes and the Frog was their last original work, and they didn't continue making more 2D because, well, it simply didn't sell that good. And the Tangled which came out one year later made a shit ton of money and became super popular. People, especially kids just aren't into 2D animation anymore, and adults often think that 3D animation = more adult jokes like in the Shrek... Which isn't entirely true, Tangled were your typical princess fairy tale. I could watch both, but to be honest Disney's last 2D works weren't that impressive, so I don't mind a good 3D animation movie. |
Animefreak17a said: It would look good in both but that 3D animation was amazing.Because Disney is lazy to draw any more I think frozen would of been better if it was 2D |
| its because they believe that 3d animation simply sells more to which they would be correct, though i dont know how much more they make considering 3d animation takes way more money to make and depending on the film can take way longer all i know is while we may never see another 2d disney film again, dreamworks has a 2d animation team again and im looking really foreword to the first film they were gonna use it for, its apparently gonna be used in a film about people's shadows whom live in their own world as sentient creatures and that the main character is just some boring dude in the real world which uses 3d cgi but his shadow is a dangerous criminal whom breaks out of prison in the shadow world which is completly hand drawn |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| 3D animation makes me puke. I'm exposing my younger brothers to 2D animation as much as I can and I'm going to do the same with my kids so they can experience the really good stuff. |
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| For the same reason why landlines aren't used anymore |
| because it has better sales, and 3D is both easier to do and easier to find young animators |
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JizzyHitler said: That sounds so good. Definitely gonna look out for it.all i know is while we may never see another 2d disney film again, dreamworks has a 2d animation team again and im looking really foreword to the first film they were gonna use it for, its apparently gonna be used in a film about people's shadows whom live in their own world as sentient creatures and that the main character is just some boring dude in the real world which uses 3d cgi but his shadow is a dangerous criminal whom breaks out of prison in the shadow world which is completly hand drawn |
| I remember when I went to see Wreck It Ralph this short 3D hand drawn animated Disney film aired called Paperman before the movie started and it has to be one of the most beautiful animated films I had ever seen. Wreck It Ralph was an ok movie but that Disney short film was just amazing. I wonder why Disney don't make movies in this style as it is a mix of traditional 2D and 3D. Here's a link to Paperman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxJkKiHXbw |
AzlanMar 4, 2014 6:08 AM
| Since Walt died Disney is now the epitome of corporate greed. Its not about the quality or passion its the money. |
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| Requires lots of effort and because they bought Pixar, which is a leader in 3D motion graphics animation. Don't really like 3D to be honest, although most of the shit they come up with now is really worth nothing anyway and probably fits well with 3D animation. Disney is not Disney anymore. |
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| Because they lost the ability to develop their 2D animation. Even if they did 2D animation right now it will still be like fucking Pocahontas. They don't know how to improve 2d animation and artwork. Also because all the kids are into gaming now that is very 3D and they chew-up 3D stuff better cause it's more familiar to them. |
| Animu should be going 3D too. More Final Fantasy advent children pls. |
sherlock5545 said: Requires lots of effort and because they bought Pixar, which is a leader in 3D motion graphics animation. Don't really like 3D to be honest, although most of the shit they come up with now is really worth nothing anyway and probably fits well with 3D animation. Disney is not Disney anymore. I really don't see what was so great about Disney before ether? Mickey? That annoying fucking rat with the stupid laugh that was always presented like he was the Jesus Christ of cartoons? Or was it the little mermaid and Bambi? Honestly putting them now and trying to watch them makes me wanna kill myself. The only thing i still find slightly watchable from there old stuff is Lion King. |
stealthdasher said: Here's a link to Paperman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxJkKiHXbw I wish they made that into a full movie. |
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Monad said: sherlock5545 said: Requires lots of effort and because they bought Pixar, which is a leader in 3D motion graphics animation. Don't really like 3D to be honest, although most of the shit they come up with now is really worth nothing anyway and probably fits well with 3D animation. Disney is not Disney anymore. I really don't see what was so great about Disney before ether? Mickey? That annoying fucking rat with the stupid laugh that was always presented like he was the Jesus Christ of cartoons? Or was it the little mermaid and Bambi? Honestly putting them now and trying to watch them makes me wanna kill myself. The only thing i still find slightly watchable from there old stuff is Lion King. Those aren't Disney theatrical releases. Some of the best Disney works are Tarzan, Mulan, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Alladin, and some others. These are some of the best movies they released in the past. Now they only produce 3D shit for the mass. Old Disney was in a league of its own. |
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| Why need Disney when you have Ghibli already? :3 |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_and_the_Never_Land_Pirates This thing is 2D, from current disney and it seems fairly well animated if you ask me. Not a movie though. |
skyzblue said: Why watch Ghibli when you can just watch better anime?Why need Disney when you have Ghibli already? :3 |
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sherlock5545 said: Ralph Bakshi made better animated films than Disney. No Disney can touch the magic of American Pop or Heavy Traffic.Monad said: sherlock5545 said: Requires lots of effort and because they bought Pixar, which is a leader in 3D motion graphics animation. Don't really like 3D to be honest, although most of the shit they come up with now is really worth nothing anyway and probably fits well with 3D animation. Disney is not Disney anymore. I really don't see what was so great about Disney before ether? Mickey? That annoying fucking rat with the stupid laugh that was always presented like he was the Jesus Christ of cartoons? Or was it the little mermaid and Bambi? Honestly putting them now and trying to watch them makes me wanna kill myself. The only thing i still find slightly watchable from there old stuff is Lion King. Those aren't Disney theatrical releases. Some of the best Disney works are Tarzan, Mulan, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Alladin, and some others. These are some of the best movies they released in the past. Now they only produce 3D shit for the mass. Old Disney was in a league of its own. |
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| Oh boy, another weeaboo circlejerk thread blindly bashing on Western animation. Man, if only Toy Story had the same level of 'maturity' as anime like Mirai Nikki. |
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sherlock5545 said: Monad said: sherlock5545 said: Requires lots of effort and because they bought Pixar, which is a leader in 3D motion graphics animation. Don't really like 3D to be honest, although most of the shit they come up with now is really worth nothing anyway and probably fits well with 3D animation. Disney is not Disney anymore. I really don't see what was so great about Disney before ether? Mickey? That annoying fucking rat with the stupid laugh that was always presented like he was the Jesus Christ of cartoons? Or was it the little mermaid and Bambi? Honestly putting them now and trying to watch them makes me wanna kill myself. The only thing i still find slightly watchable from there old stuff is Lion King. Those aren't Disney theatrical releases. Some of the best Disney works are Tarzan, Mulan, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Alladin, and some others. These are some of the best movies they released in the past. Now they only produce 3D shit for the mass. Old Disney was in a league of its own. How dare you not put Beauty and the Beast in that list. I am outraged. |
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| I hate it when people act like everything that was released by Disney post-1999 was just shit. What's even worse is Disney purists who only praise the shit that was made while Walt (R.I.P.) was still alive. Tangled/Frozen is up there with all the stuff made during the renaissance. sherlock5545 said: Disney is still Disney.Disney is not Disney anymore. |
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BlackSabotage said: skyzblue said: Why watch Ghibli when you can just watch better anime?Why need Disney when you have Ghibli already? :3 I do watch better anime. My list is the greatest confirmation of that. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
animeoppai said: JizzyHitler said: That sounds so good. Definitely gonna look out for it.all i know is while we may never see another 2d disney film again, dreamworks has a 2d animation team again and im looking really foreword to the first film they were gonna use it for, its apparently gonna be used in a film about people's shadows whom live in their own world as sentient creatures and that the main character is just some boring dude in the real world which uses 3d cgi but his shadow is a dangerous criminal whom breaks out of prison in the shadow world which is completly hand drawn sadly it'll be a ways off, it was originally supposed to come out in 2013 when it was announced years ago but due to so many delays and internal problems it was put on the back burner for a while but its back in full production now, though its looking like it wont be coming out till 2016 sadly |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Kana2Chan said: Exactly. The old Disney was amazing, but so are the ones coming out now.I hate it when people act like everything that was released by Disney post-1999 was just shit. What's even worse is Disney purists who only praise the shit that was made while Walt (R.I.P.) was still alive. I'd be glad if they continued using 3D, it just would be nice if they made 2D movies too. |
| With the efficiency of creating 3D animation and its growing popularity several years back, traditionally created animation started being looked upon as a tedious and less profitable form of animation. Towards the end of the 90s, Disney's traditionally animated works started declining in their box office success. The under performance of The Prince of Egypt and several other traditional created Dreamworks animated films probably didn't help matters. Basically they gave in and moved to 3D like everyone else was doing. |
SeibaaHomu said: Oh boy, another weeaboo circlejerk thread blindly bashing on Western animation. Man, if only Toy Story had the same level of 'maturity' as anime like Mirai Nikki. If only Toy Story didn't suck after the first one. |
| There is this general illusion that 3D is more modern, hence better, than 2D. You can bet once 4D animation comes around, that 3D animation will go the way of the dodo as well. |
| Modern audience seem more accepting of 3D animation. Princess and the Frog made less money than they were expecting, though still a success while Tangled was more successful and later Frozen became a box office juggernaut. |
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Valaskjalf said: SeibaaHomu said: Oh boy, another weeaboo circlejerk thread blindly bashing on Western animation. Man, if only Toy Story had the same level of 'maturity' as anime like Mirai Nikki. If only Toy Story didn't suck after the first one. how's 2 & 3 bad? |
MungoloidJr said: They're not.Valaskjalf said: SeibaaHomu said: Oh boy, another weeaboo circlejerk thread blindly bashing on Western animation. Man, if only Toy Story had the same level of 'maturity' as anime like Mirai Nikki. If only Toy Story didn't suck after the first one. how's 2 & 3 bad? |
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| Gotta make dat dough. Look at Frozen. You think they would have banked as much money if it was in 2D? 3D animation is ideal for that kind of shallow project. |
LordLagann said: You know making informed criticism about a movie usually requires you to have seen the movie beforehand. This is no exceptionGotta make dat dough. Look at Frozen. You think they would have banked as much money if it was in 2D? 3D animation is ideal for that kind of shallow project. |
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| 3d > 2d just how it is. 8bit > 256bit i like old shit -_- but yeah my favorite games are old as shit. holy shit linux can play castle of the winds using wine :O my life has changed. :3 nvm more error but o well, :P as for anime > western animation i watch a few show i was disgusted even the Simpsons can't compare in my opinion. |
| anime with cute girls is my thing. |
| They do countless amounts of enhanced digitizing or refurbishing, if that counts. |
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| Everything about this thread is garbage. Disney didn't "stop making" 2D films. |
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