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Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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Dec 12, 5:27 AM
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Looks like both sides have a small army which means the next couple of episodes should be interesting.
Freya familia seems certain about their victory at least that's the way they are behaving but we will see how things go.
As for Bell and the rest of Hestia familia they are getting a lot of help seems Freya pissed some people off and Hestia has more connections than we thought.
Well looking forward to the war game.
Dec 12, 5:27 AM
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Freya decided to just declare war and has Bell as the ultimate prize. Honestly, Bell didn't have much choice than being involved in this since Freya commands so much power.

It feels like this was coming eventually after what she did and all the buildup. It truly does feel like we're getting the climatic episodes coming soon. And it's good to know that Hestia is on Bell's side after all this.
Dec 12, 6:12 AM
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Freya has become more and more annoying with every episode with nothing remotely redeeming for me to take away from. I understand she’s “waifu material”, though, so this is more a personal rant than anything.
Dec 12, 6:45 AM
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yes yes yes

the preparation is over

i'm ready for the next one

let's go for the war game!!!
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Dec 12, 7:06 AM
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I can't wait for the next chapter, is all i can say, is getting so interesting, and lots of characters evolving and growing also.
Dec 12, 7:15 AM
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bell is now level 5 cool

cassandra predicted they might win too wow

if only loki familia is allowed to join then victory is easy though
Dec 12, 7:22 AM
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Anyone else hate that we have watch Freya for the entire outro, after what she did?
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Dec 12, 8:13 AM
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Some good, some bad. The animation was pretty meh on most scenes with a crowd but I suppose they're saving some budget for when the action actually comes.

As for adapting the beggining of vol18, They did a good job showing who's present and how the sides are lining up but I think they shouldn't have cut the entire conversation between Royman and Finn. They simply kick too much plot and down the road. And well...what they did with the Ais scene...she doesn't even get a word of dialogue. She's simply a plot device in the anime at this point.

Freya looking as regal as ever. I can say a lot of things about JC Staff's efforts, but they never spare any expense in making her look hotter than the Sun
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Dec 12, 8:18 AM
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When they said that would be a Hide-and-Seek, I thought that would be in Orario, looking for Freya that is a illusionist/shapeshifter.
But the concept is more steal the flag, than anything else.

Was nice everyone coming together.
Dec 12, 8:43 AM
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The war game is Hide and Seek Time for our boi to shine
Dec 12, 9:00 AM
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Given how much the guild needs Loki and Freya familia's its a given that they won't want them to fight. Won't stop individual members from helping in other ways though. With the cloak Lili really looks like a master strategiest. That was some speech that she gave though. The last scenes really upped the tension to fever pitch. Can't wait to see the war game get animated proper.
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Dec 12, 9:08 AM

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The war game itself being a tough hide and seek with elements of a battle royale thrown in does sound like a fun mixture that should make for an entertaining fight with the allies against the Freya Familia. The only drawback was that the Loki Familia was barred from competing due to the guild's interference, which was a shame.

Either way, at least some members of the Loki Familia were still allowed to assist in the preparation for the war game itself, like with Finn helping out Liliruca for example. Speaking of which, her speech towards the allies was simple, but very effective. She done herself proud already. =)

A very good build-up episode for what's to come. This will be very tough for Hestia allied army, but here's hoping that they can pull off a win against Freya.
Dec 12, 9:36 AM
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So Freya committed some unforgivable crimes alongside her familia and the solution is a War Game with the odds in her favor as well as her manipulating behind the scenes… nice to know the lawmakers of Orario have zero brains
Dec 12, 10:02 AM

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Freya just can’t let go man just give it up you’ve been beat this war game is pointless lmao 😂 this is setting up to be an amazing second half though. Essentially a battle royale with the grand prize being Bell’s affections.

Really excited to see Bell’s new abilities and all the inevitable tricks that Freya has up her sleeve in this one. Also hoping Horn can make a full recovery.

Lmao at Freya just keeping Ais away out of pure jealousy rather than actually being scared of Bell getting stronger. For all her wisdom and experience, when it comes to loves she’s nothing more than a spoiled child with rapey tendencies who can’t even properly reason or use logic. Being that way with all her powers though is scary.

Lili’s speech gave me chills. Her development has been in the background, but really proud of how far she’s come from the girl who used to rob people in dungeons to know galvanising damn near the entire town.
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Dec 12, 10:11 AM
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God, just when I start to think this season might start to get decent, the writer further ruins it with all of these stupid restrictions and rules around the war game...

It's legitimately crazy how much I was looking forward to this season and now I just hope and pray that the series ends after this season cause the author has just ruined it in basically every way.
Dec 12, 10:37 AM

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ngl, freya familia's all dripped out and their aura is just off the chart. also strength-wise, it's no surprise. I'm guessing they will just blitz most of the allied army, ottarl and the main force are too broken. seems like the next eps finna be cinema, can't wait!!!


Dec 12, 12:18 PM

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Freya's boobs!! 😍



Dec 12, 1:23 PM
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So Freya committed some unforgivable crimes alongside her familia and the solution is a War Game with the odds in her favor as well as her manipulating behind the scenes… nice to know the lawmakers of Orario have zero brains
@ajw215799 The law maker of Orario, or at least Royman, does has brains which is why they made this rules. Like, I get it, people are just seeing what Freya did and reacting to that but the guy is seeing the bigger picture, the Black Dragon that destroyed Zeus and Hera Familia, the one Orario will soon have to fight.

Orario needs Freya and Loki Familia, so the guild can't afford having them kill each other in the War Game. Besides, worse case scenario if Hestia loses is that Bell joins Freya Familia... Hardly a downside.

Besides, bold of you to think laws matter to Freya. I know it can be infuriating what the Royman did (I hated it too when reading the LN) but the guy is acting for the benefit or Orario and the World. Orario can't afford any Level 5+ to die and that would be the likely scenario if Loki did participate.
Dec 12, 1:26 PM

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it's funny how Ais is supposed to be the main love interest for Bell yet she's barely in the story and when she does get a bit of screen time the story always finds a way of sidelining her. Utterly bizarre
Dec 12, 1:27 PM

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it's funny how Ais is supposed to be the main love interest for Bell yet she's barely in the story and when she does get a bit of screen time the story always finds a way of sidelining her. Utterly bizarre
@Crashmatt skill issue of the light novel author but i heard from source material fans there will be future arc dedicated to ais though before the final battle with the black dragon
Dec 12, 1:51 PM

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Hide and seek, interesting twist to the war game rather than it just being an all out battle.
Curious to know what Bell was worried about when talking to Lili and also what Cassandra meant.
Really looking forward to the remaining episodes.

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Dec 12, 3:04 PM
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Basically a buildup episode for the War Game which is beginning in the next one, but it was definitely necessary so the rules could be established and show who all the players are, and it was awesome to see Hestia amassed so many to her side, it’s just unfortunate that Freya’s familia may just blast through all of them kinda quickly lol, I don’t want that to happen but they are that busted. The worst thing about this situation tho is that Loki’s familia were not allowed to participate, yeah I get it power balance yada yada but it really is a shame, I feel like when one of your top goddesses goes and does as bad as Freya has there should be things allowed that wouldn’t be typically, but I guess this does keep things more interesting at least.

But there are some benefits to Hestia’s side, they only have to find one goddess while Freya’s familia has to find many, and Cassandra’s prophetic dream this time is sounding good for once, hopefully she’s right. And Lili’s speech was definitely a nice way to hype up the coming battles, great moment for her, it was thanks to Finn that she was able to say what she said but it still came from her mouth, I say she did a fantastic job rallying the boys to whoop some ass. And lastly, damn I can’t help but be sus of some of these backgrounds ever since I saw people talking about that maybe-AI house a few episodes back, I really hope not but if it is they’re at least cleaning it up good so it’s hard to tell, really wish there was no usage of it at all tho.
Dec 12, 4:14 PM

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Freya's allure is too powerful, funny how she sets her own consequences even after all she has done.

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Dec 12, 4:22 PM

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What exactly prevented Ais from training Bell before the game? It sounded like it was more than just "you can't" because I said so.
Dec 12, 5:00 PM

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"can't get rid of Freya they need her fam for the big dragon fight" literally all the adventurers could just be absorbed into one of the plethora of other gods fams. What a loose plot. Would of ended then and there if that angry mob just killed her like Ishtar. This story really wrote itself into another hole.
Dec 12, 7:15 PM
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It seems we are going to reach the climax of this arc!! I can´t wait to see the next ones!!
However, I miss Ryu-sama, she barely appeared in the last episodes, I hope she will get more screentime later.
Dec 12, 7:30 PM
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Crashmatt said:
it's funny how Ais is supposed to be the main love interest for Bell yet she's barely in the story and when she does get a bit of screen time the story always finds a way of sidelining her. Utterly bizarre

That's because an entire novel series is based on her and her familia that coincides with the main story.
Dec 12, 7:34 PM
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almost ruins the other 5 seasons
Dec 12, 8:50 PM
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Amazing as she looks, Freya's gotta pay for the stuff she's pulled. No halo-effect strong enough to make it okay.
Dec 12, 9:47 PM

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If Freya wants Bell so badly then why didn't she took him under her family when he was alone struggling without a family to go?
Bitch.

Lili has grown so much it's insane!
And I hope Anya comes out of nowhere and becomes the MVP or something like that lmao that poor kitty has suffered so fucking much this season and she is just one more "background" character, comes to show how good this story is!

SHIT IS GOING DOWN NOW!
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Dec 12, 9:56 PM
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If Freya wants Bell so badly then why didn't she took him under her family when he was alone struggling without a family to go?
Bitch.

Lili has grown so much it's insane!
And I hope Anya comes out of nowhere and becomes the MVP or something like that lmao that poor kitty has suffered so fucking much this season and she is just one more "background" character, comes to show how good this story is!

SHIT IS GOING DOWN NOW!
@StallionXD Funny thing is, Bell did ask to join Freya Familia but was refused at the door by one of familia members. Hopefully Freya never found out about that or that dude would have been fired.
Dec 12, 10:20 PM
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StallionXD said:
If Freya wants Bell so badly then why didn't she took him under her family when he was alone struggling without a family to go?
Bitch.

Lili has grown so much it's insane!
And I hope Anya comes out of nowhere and becomes the MVP something like that lmao that poor kitty has suffered so fucking much this season and she is just one more "background" character, comes to show how good this show is!

SHIT IS GOING DOWN NOW!

Freya wouldn’t have found Bell alluring at that point in the story. That is because that is before Bell develops his unique skill/ability. He doesn’t get that till after he is rescued by Ais. Nobody found Bell valuable whatsoever. Hestia accepted Bell because she needed him as much as he needed her.
Dec 12, 10:51 PM
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all and every single Famillia not making alliancee vs Freya is one of biggest bullshit plot armor in anime. And i watched Fairy Tail! Loki i could still understand. Stupid politics. (ah, and Ganesha. He is so baised). But Hermes?!?! And this point it's straight betrayal. Now the only thing that can save Bell/us is our precious Golden (Green) Wind.
Dec 13, 12:34 AM

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There's still FIVE MORE EPISODES for the WAR GAME?!
5 MORE WEEKS TO WAIT!!?? 😭😭😭

I'll definitely be looking forward to them.

Anyway, an enjoyable episode.
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Dec 13, 12:51 AM
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My body is ready for next episode. This season hasn't had that much action, and all the build up is leading up to this. Its gonna be hyyyype
Dec 13, 2:14 AM

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Hype!!! Lili was so cool!
Everyone really ganged up on Freya huh, and I guess it was expected for Loki to not participate.
Where is Ryu!? Can't wait to get some fights next week~

Also anyone knows who this is?
Dec 13, 3:01 AM

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Bell is certainly stronger now than he was before, can't wait to see how he'll fight if anything happens.

Never ending plan to watch list...

Dec 13, 3:35 AM

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why do i feel like the anime is skipping some parts in the LN? but anyways, lili got some development right there lol. but freya famillia looks scary, i lowkey hope they win hahaha
Dec 13, 8:30 AM

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What exactly prevented Ais from training Bell before the game? It sounded like it was more than just "you can't" because I said so.
@razisgosu Ais asked Freya for the favor of being able to train with Ottar, so she owed Freya a favor.
Dec 13, 12:06 PM

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@ajw215799 The law maker of Orario, or at least Royman, does has brains which is why they made this rules. Like, I get it, people are just seeing what Freya did and reacting to that but the guy is seeing the bigger picture, the Black Dragon that destroyed Zeus and Hera Familia, the one Orario will soon have to fight.

Orario needs Freya and Loki Familia, so the guild can't afford having them kill each other in the War Game. Besides, worse case scenario if Hestia loses is that Bell joins Freya Familia... Hardly a downside.

Besides, bold of you to think laws matter to Freya. I know it can be infuriating what the Royman did (I hated it too when reading the LN) but the guy is acting for the benefit or Orario and the World. Orario can't afford any Level 5+ to die and that would be the likely scenario if Loki did participate.
@Siegfried10 That's interesting but some things still dont make much sense to me.

Ok, so like, why can't just Bell refuses to join her family? What she'd do? Fight and kidnap him? But then they can't have big families fighting and killing each other already thats why they settle disputes in the War Games to begin with, right? Or I thought so?

So why can't Loki and Hermes and all families in Orario join in the War Games since they want to? it clearly has rules so the parties don't kill each other, they're even making it a hide'n'seek for this one. Ganging up on Freiya would at least remind her there's consequences to violate people's memories...

also if war games are specifically to settle disputes why she didnt start with it? so instead of winning an easy fight against hestia and kidnap him, she tried to harm an entire city and then kidnapping him anyway... Thus giving hestia more allies to fight her later... Her own actions make no sense.

Actually, with the way she chooses to disregard the rules even when it helps her in her goals in order to harm the entire city instead... Why would anyone believe its just being done for Bell? And what else could she be doing with it that wouldnt harm whatever future prospect of fighting the dragon, without them ever knowing or remembering about it? Isnt a family of many level 5+ loyal to a mindwashing reckless unrepentant goddess that no one can trust more of a threat than an ally to count later on?

Shouldnt arguing over those things should be the way for this story to go now instead of whatever else this episode was?


Idk was enjoying this season more than i expected until this epi and now... no matter how much i think about it feels like its just forcing some "underdog battle royale" plot where it doesnt fit, which is kind of a let down.
Dec 14, 12:35 AM
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I knew the author would chicken out and not let the Loki familia join the fight, even though they got fucked by the Freya familia as well... this shit is so ass.
Dec 14, 7:12 AM
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Aww Loki familia out of the battle, clash between two big familias will upset the "balance".
Lets see how this War Game gonna goes.
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im excited to see how this goes
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Dec 14, 3:37 PM
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Well, all is ready to the war game!!
The both sides are ready with their strategies!!
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this is going to be so much fun ><

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Dec 14, 10:25 PM
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Ahh yes the calm before the storm.

Good to see so many people coming to belles aid. Lily got some good screentime loved it. Hope to see more .

War it is now cant wait. I have a list of people who i want revenge to be taken upon in freyas familia when they attacked hestia familia and injured them badly especially those fcking midgets.
Dec 15, 12:20 AM

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Is Wallenwhatsit part of Loki Familia and that's why she's not fighting? I can't remember.
Dec 15, 12:24 AM

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@ajw215799 The law maker of Orario, or at least Royman, does has brains which is why they made this rules. Like, I get it, people are just seeing what Freya did and reacting to that but the guy is seeing the bigger picture, the Black Dragon that destroyed Zeus and Hera Familia, the one Orario will soon have to fight.

Orario needs Freya and Loki Familia, so the guild can't afford having them kill each other in the War Game. Besides, worse case scenario if Hestia loses is that Bell joins Freya Familia... Hardly a downside.

Besides, bold of you to think laws matter to Freya. I know it can be infuriating what the Royman did (I hated it too when reading the LN) but the guy is acting for the benefit or Orario and the World. Orario can't afford any Level 5+ to die and that would be the likely scenario if Loki did participate.
@Siegfried10 That made a lot of sense. Thanks. I've been saying I need to re-watch season 1 because there's a lot I don't remember. I totally forgot about there was a greater "evil" on the horizon.
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Lmfao Freya brainwashed the entire town and the guild literally does not care, they even prevent justice, pathetic.

I guess they all saw the ED

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