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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Episode is out on Amazon Prime. Kinda amusing that Utaha decides to join Eriri to accept the offer made by Akane. Tomoya has to make his own move as well despite making mistakes in the past like recently. Pretty much a buildup episode for the finale. I'd expect Iori and Izumi to actually have a more important role soon. |
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| Eriri managed to get back on her feet and the way Eriri and Utaha reassured each other was beautiful moment. Quite emotional. Iori gave some advice to Tomoya which was nice of him. Katou went back with her short hair but she still looks great. She also asked Tomoya on a date. |
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| Despite major down pour for Tomoya. I am glad to see Eriri and Utaha grow their bonds much deeper, and finally admit to each other about their talent. Although it was heavy and devastating. I believe it was a great stepping stone for them to go to infinity and beyond. Loved the episode. Season 2 is being much better than season 1 in my eyes honestly. :) |
| i-m actually rly excited about the fact that they dumped that pussy guy, damn useless Aki, ....I cried when eri drew again, i fuckin' double fisted when she cried that tomoya couldn't make her draw, damn, this wasn't such a good anime 4 episodes ago... hell just last episode it's score jumped from 7 to 9, and my eyes widened as fuck when megumi appeared with her short hair!!! |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
| It was nice to see Eriri and Utaha acknowledge each others talents. They're going to do great things together. Eriri crying was heartbreaking and emotional. Tomoya is going to keep moving forward. Iori gave him some good advice. Katou has short hair now. She also asked Tomoya on a date. |
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| That can translate to NTR context. Eririn: "I don't feel it anymore with Tomoya, but that woman... " |
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| This episode was so dramatic, it did explain their decision to leave. There was definitely some good bonding between Utaha and Eriri. Also, interesting ending, probably a set up for 'researching' the new game. |
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| Where did you guys watch it on? I can't find it anywhere. |
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| This was just one massive in one episode. Sure it may have shown development for Eriri and Utaha finding their place and becoming firm in their aspirations but just wow. Basically this series came off to me in one episode that at the end of the day, doing something productive with your friends is fun but when it comes down to it, that friendship will always be tossed out the damn window for the sake of an opportunity. I can't help but feel triggered off of that. Finale next week, time to see how this all comes to an end. |
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zcv45 said: Stark stated that is out on Amazon Prime, coming from that, subs on "illegal" streaming sites will take a while to finally appearWhere did you guys watch it on? I can't find it anywhere. that aside, the episode was beautiful, honestly I think that dumping Tomoya could become an interesting twist, yet sad for him unless Best girl Kato makes him realize one thing or two |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| As I said before last week, neither of them are obligated to tell Aki about anything pertaining to the business involving the future of their careers so all the people hating on Utaha and Eri because of it need to grow the fuck up and open your eyes to how the real world works Either way, it's pretty said to see that they cannot thrive and improve under someone like Aki (And honestly this should come as a surprise to anyone) however the character development that they both got because of them accepting that and moving on is what makes all of this okay in my eyes and I'm proud of Aki for growing up and realizing that this was best for them....They deserve to be apart of a project this big Akane isn't all that bad either especially since unlike most people that acted like how she did last week (That is seeking attention, fame, money and power), she's in it because like Aki and the others, she's just genuinely passionate about what she does and she strives for excellence no matter what - Which is how you should be because the real world IS Dog eat Dog But that ending though lol....Aki better say yes in a heartbeat |
| Oh god, how do they plan on finishing this season in just one episode. |
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| Tomoya failed as producer, but Eri and Utaha bonds grow stronger in this episode. They were both sad and want to continue together with circle but instead choose path to improve themself as creature to make game together with Akane. That's some nice Art Eri. Well, seem like it mostly like end with Katou x Aki but I pretty sure it will no end in romance ending, that's not this anime about after all. Just one more episode. I looking forward how Aki x Katou will improve or if they will continue doujin circle together. Iori and Izumi no doubt will join them I think. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
Frostf14 said: Business is business, friendship has no say in the matter and even though they worked together, they weren't officially a team or anything but rather they did that for funTokoya said: As I said before last week, neither of them are obligated to tell Aki about anything pertaining to the business involving the future of their careers so all the people hating on Utaha and Eri because of it need to grow the fuck up and open your eyes to how the real world works Either way, it's pretty said to see that they cannot thrive and improve under someone like Aki (And honestly this should come as a surprise to anyone) however the character development that they both got because of them accepting that and moving on is what makes all of this okay in my eyes and I'm proud of Aki for growing up and realizing that this was best for them....They deserve to be apart of a project this big Akane isn't all that bad either especially since unlike most people that acted like how she did last week (That is seeking attention, fame, money and power), she's in it because like Aki and the others, she's just genuinely passionate about what she does and she strives for excellence no matter what - Which is how you should be because the real world IS Dog eat Dog But that ending though lol....Aki better say yes in a heartbeat Well, you do have a point but I think you had to understood on the episode 9 discussion that people focused more on the way they left the circle and not the fact that they left the circle. We all know that the real world is a place where selfishness is needed and we'll go for any opportunity that presents us even if it means leaving someone loved (as I said in my comment) but at least, IMO, if he/she is a precious person to you and a member of your team or whatever you have, at least act with professionalism and talk with him/her and communicate your decision, that person will accept it because it's your future and it's your decision. That's it, again I'll repeat, these people weren't against the fact that they left the circle, they were against the way they did it but that's another discussion. PS: I do really hope (and he'll probably say it lol) that he says yes. This was something that they needed to decide on their own |
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| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Episode is out on Amazon Prime. Kinda amusing that Utaha decides to join Eriri to accept the offer made by Akane. Tomoya has to make his own move as well despite making mistakes in the past like recently. Pretty much a buildup episode for the finale. I'd expect Iori and Izumi to actually have a more important role soon. since i didn't watch it till now , did iori and izumi appear in the episode ? |
| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
Tokoya said: Frostf14 said: Business is business, friendship has no say in the matter and even though they worked together, they weren't officially a team or anything but rather they did that for funWell, you do have a point but I think you had to understood on the episode 9 discussion that people focused more on the way they left the circle and not the fact that they left the circle. We all know that the real world is a place where selfishness is needed and we'll go for any opportunity that presents us even if it means leaving someone loved (as I said in my comment) but at least, IMO, if he/she is a precious person to you and a member of your team or whatever you have, at least act with professionalism and talk with him/her and communicate your decision, that person will accept it because it's your future and it's your decision. That's it, again I'll repeat, these people weren't against the fact that they left the circle, they were against the way they did it but that's another discussion. PS: I do really hope (and he'll probably say it lol) that he says yes. This was something that they needed to decide on their own It is common courtesy to let your teammate know you will no longer be participating in future projects. Rather it is for profit or not. It is respect that you let others know. They can literally text or give him a short call after a day or two. AT LEAST let him know. They waited until the proposal was done. And it wasn't like the proposal was bad according to Utaha. It was simply they already had another job. So there is literally no reason to wait for the proposal. You don't switch jobs and not tell your boss you quit. It is not even that much effort to even text a short sentence as a notification. You have problems like this that plans were made to include the two that suddenly say they want out. If they notified him, this wouldn't happen. Rather he wants to convince them again is another story. And the show's choice of personality for Akane and how it was executed just left a bad taste in addition to that. If Akane was a better person, it would be much more tolerable. But that doesn't have anything to do with what they did. |
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Contreras1991 said: This is the main reason why they shouldn't have told him.....They both are clearly in love with this guy and as we've already seen earlier in the season, they both are willing to do anything for him and would literally halt whatever goals and aspirations that they personally have all for him (For example, Utaha's whole college situation)Tokoya said: Business is business, friendship has no say in the matter and even though they worked together, they weren't officially a team or anything but rather they did that for fun This was something that they needed to decide on their own The way in which they behaved is quite inconsequential, with what they feel, if they call themselves their friends, in addition to saying that they feel something for him. There is something called decency and respect, and that is precisely what they lacked when they failed to tell Tomoya beforehand that they would accept a job offer and that they would no longer be available to work with the doujin group. Although they were not professionals, with their first job they consolidated themselves as a known working group. By the way the term of decency and respect, also exists in the business world, and that can condition if someone want to do business with certain people. As they've said before, staying with him wouldn't benefit them at all and would only hinder their future and if there's even a slight chance that he'd tell them not to take the job offer, not only would that be incredibly selfish on Aki's part, but it would leave no room for any form of growth for both Utaha and Eri @zcv45, the fact of the matter is, Aki was a tumor to both of them and even though they worked together on this one game (Which btw was just for fun since they weren't even an official team to begin with) as a producer, he failed them all and for people like them with bright futures ahead of them, in cases like these you have to put yourself first....Especially given the conditions that I explained above which more than likely would have prevented them from taking this step forward anyway |
IRIS-T said: Tokoya said: This is the main reason why they shouldn't have told him.....They both are clearly in love with this guy and as we've already seen earlier in the season, they both are willing to do anything for him and would literally halt whatever goals and aspirations that they personally have all for him (For example, Utaha's whole college situation) As they've said before, staying with him wouldn't benefit them at all and would only hinder their future and if there's even a slight chance that he'd tell them not to take the job offer, not only would that be incredibly selfish on Aki's part, but it would leave no room for any form of growth for both Utaha and Eri @zcv45, the fact of the matter is, Aki was a tumor to both of them and even though they worked together on this one game (Which btw was just for fun since they weren't even an official team to begin with) as a producer, he failed them all and for people like them with bright futures ahead of them, in cases like these you have to put yourself first....Especially given the conditions that I explained above which more than likely would have prevented them from taking this step forward anyway Nope Tomoya did not failed them as a producer. Remember the reason they joined him is not to hone their skill or advance their career but to be with him, and clearly they are not total newbies in the industry, Utaha a successful author(because of tomoya) and Eriri doujin artist. So I really find "The lack of Push on our creativity"/"Bad producer" is a bit off and out of place. Its pretty obvious that Aki was just starting out and its the girls fault for imposing that demand suddenly. And remember in season 1 he already told Eriri its fine if she goes for greener pasture, so by character we know Aki wont hold them back and it was juet the sudden drop of bomb that they were leaving that made him upset. I agree. Aki was selfish at times but it wasn't of bad intention. When his cousin told him the group was off kilters, he clearly contemplated on stopping. Besides this doujin circle got Eriri scouted. He wasn't that great but he is also a newbie that got his members scouted. Sure by no means do they need to stay but I can't imagine it being such a big deal telling him. I don't think ti matters if they did it for fun or not. That is a irrelevant point. Or actually is in favor for Tomoya since you should enjoy your career. When you enjoy it, you are motivated to finish in a timely manner while maintaining quality. And finally it don't matter if they like him or not since they told him anyways. They will have to let him know eventually. They already accepted the job so no backing down now. just tell him. Waiting is completely pointless. Except they make everything worse by being horrible people and keeping it a secret. |
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IRIS-T said: Yes they did join him in order to be with him, but at the end of the day, this was still a professional project that they worked on, therefore, as a producer he WAS lackingTokoya said: This is the main reason why they shouldn't have told him.....They both are clearly in love with this guy and as we've already seen earlier in the season, they both are willing to do anything for him and would literally halt whatever goals and aspirations that they personally have all for him (For example, Utaha's whole college situation) As they've said before, staying with him wouldn't benefit them at all and would only hinder their future and if there's even a slight chance that he'd tell them not to take the job offer, not only would that be incredibly selfish on Aki's part, but it would leave no room for any form of growth for both Utaha and Eri @zcv45, the fact of the matter is, Aki was a tumor to both of them and even though they worked together on this one game (Which btw was just for fun since they weren't even an official team to begin with) as a producer, he failed them all and for people like them with bright futures ahead of them, in cases like these you have to put yourself first....Especially given the conditions that I explained above which more than likely would have prevented them from taking this step forward anyway Nope Tomoya did not failed them as a producer. Remember the reason they joined him is not to hone their skill or advance their career but to be with him, and clearly they are not total newbies in the industry, Utaha a successful author(because of tomoya) and Eriri doujin artist. So I really find "The lack of Push on our creativity"/"Bad producer" is a bit off and out of place. Its pretty obvious that Aki was just starting out and its the girls fault for imposing that demand suddenly. And remember in season 1 he already told Eriri its fine if she goes for greener pasture, so by character we know Aki wont hold them back and it was juet the sudden drop of bomb that they were leaving that made him upset. Just because they wanted to be with him, that doesn't mean that they would act unprofessionally and half-ass things. Utaha, Eri and Kato all took this thing VERY seriously and that's why they were all so determined to get this done |
| What I can say to Akane is "bitch, you need a life". Thank God I switched side to Kato at Episode 8, because I couldn't feel it in Utaha anymore. Not a really good season, but hey, at least the best girl wins. |
Tokoya said: Ok, so what i'm getting from this is two sides: one that says that them breaking from Aki was the best thing that they could do, and that they didn't need to tell him that they got a new job offer, and the other that says that yes, they should've told him, since he was the one who got them into the whole thing in the first place, and he was their friend.IRIS-T said: Yes they did join him in order to be with him, but at the end of the day, this was still a professional project that they worked on, therefore, as a producer he WAS lackingNope Tomoya did not failed them as a producer. Remember the reason they joined him is not to hone their skill or advance their career but to be with him, and clearly they are not total newbies in the industry, Utaha a successful author(because of tomoya) and Eriri doujin artist. So I really find "The lack of Push on our creativity"/"Bad producer" is a bit off and out of place. Its pretty obvious that Aki was just starting out and its the girls fault for imposing that demand suddenly. And remember in season 1 he already told Eriri its fine if she goes for greener pasture, so by character we know Aki wont hold them back and it was juet the sudden drop of bomb that they were leaving that made him upset. Just because they wanted to be with him, that doesn't mean that they would act unprofessionally and half-ass things. Utaha, Eri and Kato all took this thing VERY seriously and that's why they were all so determined to get this done In my opinion, if they really didn't have any reason to tell him, then all the emotions that they felt when they talked about leaving him would be pretty fake. Also, if I were to think in the terms that they didn't need to tell him anything because he held them back, then that would honestly mean that anything they felt towards him didn't mean jack, and the decision to not even tell him that wouldn't make him realize where he went wrong...though that kind of advice would've benefited him a long time ago, but I digress. if I recall, part of their internal issues and some of the major issues with the first project were their desparate attempts to get his attention romatically, which ended up interferring with the project (Utaha wrote two scripts, one of them being the ending where he chooses her and the original in a desperate final attempt to get Aki once and for all, which ended up with Aki wanting to add a third route for the everyone wins ending since he didn't like to choose between two girls, that Utaha herself greenlighted, which forced Eriri to draw more pictures for the new routes, and this is when she was still trying to be his numero uno and didn't have any others done). Still, whether they should've told him or not is not exactly up in the air since even Utaha's editor stated that she shouid tell Aki about it, so it kind of leans to the fact that yes, they should've told him, since he did have a right to know that his team wasn't going to stay the same as a leader, bad one or not. Them not even telling him anything isn't that much better than him being selfish for using them for his own gain, and if that's the case, then the series pretty much paints all three people in a negative light and can makes it seem like they're more than willing to screw each other's chances to rise to the top if it meant that they can reach it. Which would render the entire romance between them pointless. |
𝕐𝕌ℝ𝕀 𝕀𝕊 𝕃𝕆𝕍𝔼. 𝕐𝕌ℝ𝕀 𝕀𝕊 𝕃𝕀𝔽𝔼. |
kiza1379 said: To answer the whole "Eriri can't work under Aki" thing, the answer is that for whatever reason, she's technically a masochist when it comes to her work, and I don't think she or anyone knows about it (except maybe for Akane), but the entire thing with her kind of points to this, so her staying with Aki is bad for her due to her unknown masochism.IRIS-T said: It's too farfetched to call it a Professional Project, they are not even connected to a publishing company or getting paid, I mean thats why they left for a "Professional project" with Akane. I'm not questioning Aki as a producer he clearly lacks a lot of skill as a producer, again He's a total Newbie My hate is on how the Girls are suddenly blaming Tomoya's skills, when in first season they already know thats the case with his first proposals that he is a total crap. I mean it's already a 'given' and they joined anyway. So why blame the guy now as if 'he' failed them, when in fact the moment they've joined him in season 1, both girls knew and heck tomoya himself knew that he was a crappy producer. it's not like the girls blamed Aki...it's just that Eriri wanted to improved and Eriri can't improve if Eriri work under Aki ( because of his kindness and stuff which i don't really understand ) and Aki did give Eriri some determination to become No.1 amazing for him...and that's why Eriri cried when she was about to point out that she was going to leave the circle...and Utaha leave the circle is because she acknowledged Eriri's skill but didn't point it out before and wanted to work with her again although idk what makes her to do this decision which leads to both od them leave the circle The fact that kind of says it all. |
| 𝕐𝕌ℝ𝕀 𝕀𝕊 𝕃𝕆𝕍𝔼. 𝕐𝕌ℝ𝕀 𝕀𝕊 𝕃𝕀𝔽𝔼. |
| In my opinion, the fact that Eriri can't draw unless she's told off shows a flaw in her creativity. She lacks self-motivation. I don't believe it's absolutely necessary to have someone else push your creativity if you have the determination to improve yourself...to say "I know I can do better than this", even when everyone around you is just saying how great you are. |
kiza1379 said: You're right, but I wouldn't exactly call that happy masochism, or at the very least how it's normally described. Basically, the fact that she does better when she's insulted rather than praised kind of shows a masochistic side, since no matter how much Aki praised her, she never felt motivated to do better, but remember when he insulted her that one time, and then she felt the fire to do better. You could say that she was trying to prove them wrong, and there is a revenge motive there, so I agree with you there, but I wouldn't have called it masochism if she did artwork of that caliber whenever she wanted.XaneKudo said: To answer the whole "Eriri can't work under Aki" thing, the answer is that for whatever reason, she's technically a masochist when it comes to her work, and I don't think she or anyone knows about it (except maybe for Akane), but the entire thing with her kind of points to this, so her staying with Aki is bad for her due to her unknown masochism. The fact that kind of says it all. im not really sure you can call that masochism...from my POV...Eriri is the type that need to be insulted about how lacking her work is in order to be motivated to growth...since everyone isn't the same... PS : masochism means like feel pleasure from getting crushed or smtg... i mean...sure indeed Eriri got broken in pieces when Akane show Eriri her sketching since those work cost Eriri pushed herself hard till collapsing...but she didn't enjoy it when Akane crushed her but instead makes her hyped to revenge against her... idk how did that lead them to decide to work with that Akane though. Is the reason that Eriri can't improve under Aki enough is a good enough to make them decide to get revenge under Akane? that would just like they choose to work their life for the project and Akane got all the names and stuff. Well the decision to work under Akane wasn't a wrong choice, since she's one of the top producers and putting that on your resume will have people knocking on your doors for dozens of offers, which is good for their careers, and the fact that Eriri couldn't get better under Aki wasn't that bad, honestly. What was bad was the decision to not tell him anything until he asked them about his new proposal. |
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| Discuss whatever you want. MEGUMI KATOU IS WINNING!!! |
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    The goggles never lie. Never. EDIT: I posted these before I was even halfway through the episode. The rest of the episode has too much to even add on. They goggles know only the truth. |
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| after watching the episode it was kinda funny how they tried to make them appear like victims in this episode tbh , it also annoyed me how eriri knew what she was doing was wrong yet continued doing it without telling him at least . i want him to get angry at them after all this is finished that would be nice to see . |
| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
| A great continuation of last episode. As creators both understand just what the opportunity means to each other, and it really took Utaha's meddling to get it through to Eriri, regardless of how painful the truth of the matter is. Akane's methods were effective because she views them in a way that Aki could never do. In the end everything's being set up for the second half of the series. Hopefully we'll actually get 2 more seasons for it to fulfill it's potential. |
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| All dat Utaha x Eriri asdfghjkl great episode. Dat sneak attack by Kato, +1 dragonshade said: That can translate to NTR context. Eririn: "I don't feel it anymore with Tomoya, but that woman... " Work and love are two different things. |
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