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Aug 15, 2017 1:36 PM
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Basically, I had a thought about a company like Disney or whatever , suddenly announcing that it was making an animation based in Japan and calling it Disney Anime or whatnot. They would basically keep everything western expect voice actors, everything else eg: budget, writers, artists, producers, maybe even the art style wouldn't be.


Would you feel comfortable it this happened or wouldn't care as long as its good?
Furthermore, would you feel it is "fair"? Esp if a bigger company did this.

PS: I genuinely think this will happen in the next 10 years

EDIT: How would you feel if they started adapting your fav manga?
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i think im misreading this but just the voice actors won't be western? how would that work ,-,
would a bunch of non-japanese people just go to japan and do the same shit they would do at home?
also i dont think they can resist the opportunity to make it in both languages at once
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I do not want dirty gaijin come to nihon and steal our anime! そんなことぜったい許さへんで!
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Lol that is never gonna happen, it would be an extremely bad decision on the side of Disney to abandon the big market and only produce japanese dubs. How weeb do you have to be to even think that's a possibility?

Luckily I think the people in charge have a better idea of how definition like 'anime' work. If it's a western company it will produce western animation, period. That is so by definition. Why people can't just be happy with that and want everything weebified is beyond me.
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Disney could never hope to capture what makes anime so great. [lolis]
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Lol that is never gonna happen, it would be an extremely bad decision on the side of Disney to abandon the big market and only produce japanese dubs. How weeb do you have to be to even think that's a possibility?

Luckily I think the people in charge have a better idea of how definition like 'anime' work. If it's a western company it will produce western animation, period. That is so by definition. Why people can't just be happy with that and want everything weebified is beyond me.


I never said that they abandon what they usually do, just add on to it . And I said "for example" Disney. I'm guessing the weebified bit was a joke so ill pass over it.

But as I said, I can see an animation company from Europe or America looking at a few popular manga's and the potential to grow in another market *in addition to their current ones* and saying "why not", since they can afford to buy the rights, buy the better voice actress and buy good advertising and will have the freedom of choosing whether or not it can keep the art style. They would easy have the money to create a board, base etc in Japan too.

romagia said:
i think im misreading this but just the voice actors won't be western? how would that work ,-,
would a bunch of non-japanese people just go to japan and do the same shit they would do at home?
also i dont think they can resist the opportunity to make it in both languages at once


They could adapt manga's aswell as create originals, maybe using a giant company like Disney was a mistake because they would never adapt, just do originals, but maybe a mid sized or big but not giant one would give it a try. They would also have the abilty to do it in both easily. But I hope you can see where I'm going.

To put it simply, it would be just like any other anime animation company
+ Mostly Western staff
+ Already huge budget
+ Top level Japanese and prob other lang voice actors
+ Top level manga adaptations
+ Anime style originals
+ Already established popularity, hype and status without having to do any work
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Eww, the West making Anime? bleh I doubt they can make anything good- oh wait Avatar lol (well if they can keep up with good writers I'm pretty sure the West can make some good "Anime")

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Well there is one studio that is sort of trying to do that: D'Art Shtajio. Based in Japan but American-owned, the studio is currently trying to adapt an American-made comic into an anime.

I'm fine with it as long as it is good. I just hope that they can get the support that they need to continue their work further...
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DJBay said:
Pullman said:
Lol that is never gonna happen, it would be an extremely bad decision on the side of Disney to abandon the big market and only produce japanese dubs. How weeb do you have to be to even think that's a possibility?

Luckily I think the people in charge have a better idea of how definition like 'anime' work. If it's a western company it will produce western animation, period. That is so by definition. Why people can't just be happy with that and want everything weebified is beyond me.


I never said that they abandon what they usually do, just add on to it . And I said "for example" Disney. I'm guessing the weebified bit was a joke so ill pass over it.

But as I said, I can see an animation company from Europe or America looking at a few popular manga's and the potential to grow in another market *in addition to their current ones* and saying "why not", since they can afford to buy the rights, buy the better voice actress and buy good advertising and will have the freedom of choosing whether or not it can keep the art style. They would easy have the money to create a board, base etc in Japan too.

You are overestimating how much anime actually would sell, expect in Japan. And they still air cartoons there so why would they need to try to make "anime" when that's impossible in the first place. It would need to be produced in Japan to be considered as anime in west.

If we actually went by the anime definition we have that's already done. Quite many western cartoons have some production done in Japan or are even considered as anime series. Also some western superheroes have their own anime adaptations. And no people, art style having inspiration from East does not make a show anime.
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Pullman said:
Lol that is never gonna happen, it would be an extremely bad decision on the side of Disney to abandon the big market and only produce japanese dubs. How weeb do you have to be to even think that's a possibility?

Luckily I think the people in charge have a better idea of how definition like 'anime' work. If it's a western company it will produce western animation, period. That is so by definition. Why people can't just be happy with that and want everything weebified is beyond me.

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Lmao most anime studios are broke-ass niqqas, no way a real Western entertainment company would want to get into that shet.
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it wouldn't be anything like anime and i don't think i have to go into what SJW's would do to it
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Hypothetically, would you be fine if a western animation company announce it was adapting a manga that you liked, becuase I can understand what you are saying about it not being anime if it was an original.

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Pullman said:
Lol that is never gonna happen, it would be an extremely bad decision on the side of Disney to abandon the big market and only produce japanese dubs. How weeb do you have to be to even think that's a possibility?

Luckily I think the people in charge have a better idea of how definition like 'anime' work. If it's a western company it will produce western animation, period. That is so by definition. Why people can't just be happy with that and want everything weebified is beyond me.

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Lmao most anime studios are broke-ass niqqas, no way a real Western entertainment company would want to get into that shet.


But as I said, th current reputation,popularity, fan base that a big western company would have could heavily push it up in comparison to the average Japanese company.
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Disney already has a Japanese branch and they do make anime. Disney Japan is also responsible for distributing Ghibli's films. Aside from Ghibli they helped make Fireball and Stitch!. Crunchyroll is an American company that has also been on the production team of some anime. Netflix is planning to make the anime Perfect Bones with Production IG. A Western company can't make a real anime on their own, but they can collaborate with Japanese anime studios to make anime.
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Disney already produced anime there.

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Nope. I wouldn't watch, even if they were using Japanese voice actors. All of the things which you mentioned are the reason why I'm interested in anime.
But if writing, art, direction wouldn't be japanese, then it wouldn't be anime. Simple.

O-O So, Ulysses XXXI and The Mysterious Golden Cities "aren't (japanese) anime" just because the stories were conceived by french minds?
What about Valerian too (french comic inspired)? Oban Star Racer (created by a french mind)? Or other satelight shows with french talents?

@Johnnyd3rp Here too. Thank you, I always forgot to count the "Once upon a time" documentaries because some of them are only french/italian.
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Voltron legendary defenders is great though
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Rei366 said:
Disney already produced anime there.

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Nope. I wouldn't watch, even if they were using Japanese voice actors. All of the things which you mentioned are the reason why I'm interested in anime.
But if writing, art, direction wouldn't be japanese, then it wouldn't be anime. Simple.

O-O So, Ulysses XXXI and The Mysterious Golden Cities "aren't anime" just because the stories were conceived by french minds?
What about Valerian too (french comic inspired)? Oban Star Racer (created by a french mind)? Or other satelight shows with french talents?


Or Seimei no Kagaku: Micro Patrol. It's a cult here in Italy.

One of the most educational anime out there.
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The close we're getting to having something like that is the Avatar series,RWBY which I'm a huge fan of and the new Voltron Legendary Defender reboot. Otherwise I just can't see that happening.
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I dont feel that its fair. Yes, they can make some good cartoons or even adapt one of the famous titles, but that doesnt mean that it will be the anime, cuz it will be just a western cartoon imitating the anime.
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>Anime
>Western

Do me a favor and pick one.
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Teen Titans is very similar to anime. If they would do something like that, then it should be in english. Their market would mostly be in their country, not internationally.





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But if the west makes it, why would you call it "anime" instead of "cartoon"? Why would you be a literal weeaboo and use a japanese word to describe something from your country?
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Ecstatic. There are plenty of good Western novels that will shine as animated adaptations, especially the fantasy and sci-fi ones that would not do well as live-action because of limitations in budget and/or technology. Imagine Gurrenn Lagann or Flip Flappers as live action. Not happening. First example I could think of for a Western story that would be hard pressed to work as live-action but would flourish as an animated story is the Warcraft franchise. And maybe we could have Gemmell's Troy Trilogy or the Percy Jackson series animated. It's gonna be awesome.
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Not sure what fairness has to do with any, but I wouldn't care as long as it good.
Aug 15, 2017 4:54 PM
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I think that only Japan can make excellent animes. Of course some anime from another countries like China or Korea already make some good animes. But it will be very difficult to an American company to create an anime that escape for sense of a cartoon. But if they create a good anime I have no problems with that.
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There're:
avatar the last air bender , avatar the legend of kora
They have a kinda of anime style , made by a western company nickelodeon AND BOTH ARE A MASTERPIECE .
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YayaChibi said:
The Boondocks is a show that tries to hard to hit close to home.
It doesn't, it comes across as organic but exaggeration is used for the satire.

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The Thundercats 2011 ver was absolute garbage.
Thundercats 2011 had great worldbuilding and lore the only problem with it is that it was cancelled before it could conclude the story.

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Justice League has nice writing in it's jokes and passing, everything else in the writing department is absolute trash.
There is nothing anime about the Justice League cartoon and the writing for it across the board was great.
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It wouldn't be an anime if they did that, because it's not produced in asia.
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i hope everyone in disney will get cancer and die
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Then it wouldn't be anime...

However, I have and will always advocate domestic animation with the amount of variety and depth of plot, characters, and subject matter found in anime that can appeal to multiple age and gender demographics and is something other than comedy or a superhero action show because it is is sorely lacking. I want more serious sci-fi shows, gritty action shows, mysteries, romances, drama, fantasy titles, horror, etc.
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Disney could never hope to capture what makes anime so great. [lolis]

You must be a true weeb if you think that, though I would never want Disney to adapt anime anyway.
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I woudnt like western treads being added to anime made by them.
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DJBay said:
Would you feel comfortable it this happened or wouldn't care as long as its good?
Furthermore, would you feel it is "fair"? Esp if a bigger company did this.

PS: I genuinely think this will happen in the next 10 years

EDIT: How would you feel if they started adapting your fav manga?

If Disney would adapt my fav, Tsugumomo that is, it'd be a black screen half of the show (because... ecchi). Wouldn't that make for a cool show?

It's funny, I posted the exact same question in a german forum a while ago. The general opinion there was that, if created by Westerners, Anime would loose it's "exotic" flair, the thing most Anime fans supposedly like the medium for.

I don't see it happening. In my opinion, the only thing possible is that a Japanese studio opens up a branch in America or elsewhere in the West. But why should they, on the other hand? The market there still isn't worth the investment.

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We do not need to imagine something that will never happen .. But if it happened , I do not mind that as long as they have an interesting plot


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Idc, as long as they make it good. RWBY is a really food animation and I love it.
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Like 'your' work to be adapted... Well, if no japanese studio want to adapt my story, then no choice....

As watcher, i remember my brother hated kingdom hearts (anime or game) cause of disney made.

I say its still not anime, but ill watch it if its something like avatar

Edit : i misinterpreted about your favorite manga and your manga...
If its my favorite manga, i would be angry
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@YayaChibi It is. If you were black you would see it's organic. The exaggeration is part of the satire.

No I haven't but how does it not having worldbuilding as good as the original make it absolute garbage?

No my penis is currently flaccid. I know you have different opinions but so do I and they can disagree with yours. It seems like you are specifically looking for any little thing to bash every cartoon and use it's just my opinion . In the Clarence thread your opinion about a character was based on faulty logic which I clearly explained to you. So an opinion can be wrong. It's like if I say in my opinion the earth is square.
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I think the recent popularity of anime is blinding you. Yes there have been a huge increase in viewership, but we still remain very much a niche. The idea that Disney would even considering abandoning their already established (and bigger) market to compete for a relatively small market is ridiculous.
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lol WTF I am Black what point are you trying to prove lol
It's not even teh comparison that makes it shit lol It's the writing, the story, etc lol
I love cartoons, a lot better then some animes I watch, so what point are you trying to prove lol???
It's not wrong because its all subjective????? lol honestly man chill lol
Oh I didn't know you were black as well but for me it's organic and the exaggeration is part of the satire. You will have to expand on that because I didn't see any problem with the writing and story. I would have never known that since every time I see you post about any cartoon it's to bash it. The Earth is objectively not square. I am chilled.
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'Says I love cartoons' suddenly you add 'but for me' lol
Overall, for the environment the story is trying to take, it fails as well as attempting to deliver the realistic feeling with the exaggeration a cartoon needs, and some episodes are just a mess lol
And those cartoons are objectively shitty lol
I don't understand what you mean by the first sentence.
It doesn't fail at all . It's a fantasy setting so it's not supposed to be realistic but it's also not a comedy cartoon so it's not going to be focused on exaggeration.
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If a western company were to make anime, it'd be a cartoon.

Considering that, plenty of western companies make anime.

If you're asking if western companies should specifically copy the feel and style of Japanese animation, then imo no. There's plenty of trash anime and I western cartoons scratch an itch (for me) that anime doesn't. Eg, I don't think a cartoon like Rick and Morty or Archer could have ever come out of Japan. I wouldn't want any sort of focus shift that would take away from the production of shows like that.
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>Western anime

What's next? Western J-Pop?
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ye sure i will watch that and heck CrunchyRoll is making a western anime i heard so your dream came true
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Disney could never hope to capture what makes anime so great. [lolis]
Disney don't even have a 2D animation apartment anymore apart from some flash animation.
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If it's produced in the West, it's not anime. It's a cartoon then. I don't know why people insist on calling series like Avatar or RWBY anime, as if calling them cartoons would somehow demote them.
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"Anime" is not just a single (which of course it isn't) style of drawing, it's storytelling is also heavily infuenced by the culture (talking about Japan of course) it comes from!
So no, a animated show from the west would not even be called "anime" and so your question is absolutely mute as there is nothing to feel about.
It's not an anime!
Avatar for example is not an anime but a western cartoon (partly) in the style of Japanese animation!
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Well Disney has a lot of movies with amazing stories. If they can pull off the anime art and animation style, that would be sick.
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I cant reply to all but I reply in general.

Not sure how many times I need to say "If they built a base in Japan" and called it
something like Disney Anime or whatever.

The fairness part would be around the fact that most starting companies, esp for anime ( correct me if im wrong) would have to start with a not so strong budget, have not so experienced staff and wouldn't even if they end up doing reall well, have a huge social media standing and so even the best company barely get any hype. I a western company makes a Japanese base to adapt manga then without any sort of work or advertising, they will already have more viewers, more hype and more talk about it than any super- established anime company could do if they tried.
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In terms of style I would say Avatar and Voltron (the Netflix show) are pretty much western "animes"
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