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Feb 11, 2014 9:15 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This case was was a bit more interesting imo. A guy in that silly outfit attacked? Heh.

Mm pretty drawings I guess this episode. I kinda feel sorry for the kids..ahh. The fight was okay I guess. I mean the gold fists were straight out fashioned. I noticed they used the ED song during the fight too. I see what they did here. Looks like Moral is up to no good again..
Feb 11, 2014 9:42 AM
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Artist x Movie collab. incident with the manager that received the power wanting another artist to do it instead. Interesting story about why the two are paired up. Prophecy breaker, literally and promise to not die.

Police's sister's tomb?

He finally found out the police is trying to hide.
tsubasaloverFeb 11, 2014 9:47 AM
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Feb 11, 2014 12:08 PM
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finally some past moments and the fight was nice too

also more moral is about to come hope they finally battle with him at least a bit
Feb 11, 2014 12:17 PM
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A look into the past about Ratio and Birthday
That was good.
More connections to Moral..(obtaining minimum powers)
The fight at the end was pretty good too.
This case was more interesting than previous ones..
Wonder when they'll finally take on Moral though.
Feb 11, 2014 12:25 PM
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I wonder who is that in the tomb?!
The case has gotten more interesting and I bet Art's helper is hiding things too.
Feb 11, 2014 1:07 PM
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3/5
slightly better and more interesting than the last few ones.
Feb 11, 2014 1:37 PM
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This case was seriously weird... way less than last one though ^^'
Feb 11, 2014 1:47 PM
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it just needs more action packed fights and maybe cases who last longer than just an ep also I wanna see more evil doing from moral he just stays hidden in the shadows and plays the small criminal it time for him to get serious !!!
Feb 11, 2014 3:23 PM
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Woah good english, wasn't expecting that :P

"It sleeps here" Was Art's brother named It?

I'm still somewhat confused about Ratio's powers, I assume his sight is part of his minimum, but are the golden arms part of it too? It's hard to tell since he's always wearing gloves. Shoot me a comment/message if you know.
Feb 11, 2014 4:28 PM
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Stark700 said:
I noticed they used the ED song during the fight too. I see what they did here.


I really like that ED though. It went well as background music to the fight.

As other people have said, though, I do hope the cases and fights last a bit longer. We have such great characters here, and I feel like they're not being used to their full potential.

Overall, still a good episode. Looking forward to more.
Feb 11, 2014 4:47 PM
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First time posting on this particular anime forum: I will summarize my opinion by saying that so far, I remain uninspired by this show. The only thing interesting is the policemen and the villain. Moral continues to be formidable. Every time Art speaks, I think of DT Saga. The Minimum Holders are dull and I think they try too hard to make these characters cool. On the first episode I got the impressions that I am supposed to wowed by Nice but 6 EPs in and....still feel the same way. Did not get to see Art and Moral in action this ep the way I wanted but the twist at the end was nice. Otherwise, ep was okay.
Feb 11, 2014 5:00 PM
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Random observation but some scenes just like awkwardly directed.
For example, that one scene where Misty was talking and all we could see was her back while Birthday is sitting there all :< faced. Lasted a good ~12 seconds too.
Feb 11, 2014 5:26 PM
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Interesting.
Feb 11, 2014 5:46 PM

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Wow Raito and Birthday's past. I hope Birthday doesn't die T__T Nice wants to meet him!!!! Whoa Morel WTH!!!!
Feb 11, 2014 6:09 PM

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Yeah Moral's minimum is the ability to morph. That is a very generic power that one could get, yet it's still sick.
Feb 11, 2014 6:24 PM

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Well, looks like I'll be shipping Birthday/Ratio more than ever...
Oh boy...Nice has done it again. I can't help but feel like this is some sick mashup of Meganebu! and Psycho Pass, and that Moral is like Makishima from Psycho Pass? You feel?
Feb 11, 2014 6:26 PM

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Aggron said:
Woah good english, wasn't expecting that :P

"It sleeps here" Was Art's brother named It?

I'm still somewhat confused about Ratio's powers, I assume his sight is part of his minimum, but are the golden arms part of it too? It's hard to tell since he's always wearing gloves. Shoot me a comment/message if you know.


Yeah! I think the vision is more his minimum than the arms though! The arms, are, well, fake, and not caused by his brain like a minimum would be.
Feb 11, 2014 6:56 PM

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Well we're finally getting somewhere. They seriously need to stop with the shallow cases to make the plot advance. It just feels cheap and dulls the 'woah' factor of the main plot.
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Feb 11, 2014 8:10 PM

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So i guess Gasquet isnt a killer?! or is he?
Feb 11, 2014 9:05 PM

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Cool episode.

And awww at Birthday and Ratio's friendship, not willing to let each other die :p

Seems like Moral's gonna appear next ep
Feb 11, 2014 9:29 PM

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Less action as usual..
it getting boring
Do you should be happy for life..? I do not.
Feb 11, 2014 9:51 PM

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I rather liked this episode. Learning more about Ratio and Birthday is always good! How sad is it to live with a minimum where you can tell people are about to die? That would seem very scary, but I'm glad Ratio is now putting it to great use by being a doctor who is able to genuinely help others, what a great way to turn something that seems like a negative into a positive.

Feb 11, 2014 11:33 PM

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After knowing that Moral's minimum is the ability to morph, I bet Art's partner has been Moral all along. He killed the guy on the computer cause he was close to figuring something out.
Feb 12, 2014 4:20 AM

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what the hell happening with the animation quality?
poor Ratio's past
Feb 12, 2014 5:29 AM
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I don't get why there was no scene for Art and others about knowing the doctor (I assume) being dead. But then if there's one the last scene won't be even there because they know he's already dead.
Feb 12, 2014 6:08 AM

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With Moral ability, it's tough to find the real him.

bromance for Ratio and Birthday. I like their past that connects them to stay alive.
Feb 12, 2014 6:24 AM

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Nice flashback, but the animation is becoming... So Birthday has an incurable disease... Pretty much became a nakama fight at end, too simple. Still loving the ending song, the anime is becoming average though.
Feb 12, 2014 1:21 PM
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This episode was pretty interesting and twisted.
Birthday and Ratio have a pretty cute friendship. 'I won't let you die' :') How sentimental. They have quite dark pasts
That fight was sugoii. Loved the background music. How all four fought hotshot.
Guess Nice found out bout Moral. But why did Art keep it a secret. It' not like he'll go against them.
Anyways, the next episode ' Black Cosmos'. Titles giving a clue that its more likely to be on Nice and Moral.
Feb 12, 2014 1:49 PM

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good episode about birthday and ratio and their past.


"Here's our chance! Let's go!"
Feb 12, 2014 2:48 PM

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Finally! An episode where Master's not just standing there grinding coffee! He actually served a drink!! The plot thickens!!!

Tons of Ratio action! Be still my fluttering heart...

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Feb 12, 2014 4:44 PM

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ratio and birthday's past was really interesting :-)
i like their friendship haha ^^; can't wait to see more of nice's past!

fight at the end was good too (y)
Feb 12, 2014 7:26 PM

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that was cute, how ratio and birthday became close
Feb 12, 2014 8:01 PM
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Admittedly, the combined lightning punch attack was pretty badass
Feb 12, 2014 9:13 PM

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I knew it. Moral had to have some shape shifting or illusion type of ability since he's able to walk around so freely killing people here and there without being caught.
Also, I like how the screen's resolution change whenever Moral comes on screen.
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Feb 13, 2014 12:08 AM

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I'm not finding these stories interesting at all :( The only one I found entertaining was the first one from episode 1 with the complex safe that just had porn mags lol.
Feb 13, 2014 2:11 AM

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parfaited said:
Random observation but some scenes just like awkwardly directed.
For example, that one scene where Misty was talking and all we could see was her back while Birthday is sitting there all :< faced. Lasted a good ~12 seconds too.


I agree with this. Some scenes left me feeling a bit -off- because of the awkward directing. Though I did enjoy Birthday's outburst (a stark contrast from his usual happy-go-lucky, down-to-earth, careless vibe), we could have done without the prolonged frame of just him sitting there whilst Misty clipped off-camera.

The case itself was mildly interesting; however, I found the previous cases more entertaining. I felt that this episode was incredibly rushed (was I the only one??) but I'm glad that we were able to learn of Birthday's and Ratio's past -- PLUS witness more of their dynamic (although there were a few odd directing choices within the overall fight).

I love love love all of the characters in this series so I really hope that the latter half of the season picks up (enter: Moral!). Hamatora has the potential to be quite good if they go the right direction.

I'm still sticking to an 8/10 (in reality, a 7/10) due to art style, op/ed, characters, and personal enjoyment. This can quickly drop to a 6/10 if something doesn't happen soon for Hamatora to break out of its current average streak.
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Feb 13, 2014 3:02 AM
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orihaara said:
I can't help but feel like this is some sick mashup of Meganebu! and Psycho Pass, and that Moral is like Makishima from Psycho Pass? You feel?


I don't agree with your mashup, but I agree that Moral acts somewhat similar to Makishima, but Moral isn't the slightest bit close to influencing all these crimes as elegantly as how Makishima does it.


"Do you know where hell is? Inside your head" - Chrona=
"If the king doesn't move, then his subjects won't follow" - Lelouch Lamperouge
"If you pretend to feel a certain way, the feeling can become genuine all by accident" - Hei
"I want chocolate! No need for love!! Just give me sugar!!!" & "If you have time to think of a beautiful end, then live beautifully until the end" - Sakata Gintoki
Feb 13, 2014 3:46 AM

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That episode was really nice and I feel the plot is finally starting to unfold!

I can't hide that the quality of the episode wasn't that good, but whatever! Let's hope it will get better!!!

This ep's case was okay! I liked how they connected it with the Ratio x Birthday past!!! And here comes the greatest thing!!! Do you remember ep.4!!! When Birthday said this - Life's too short! It felt a bit weird and way too serious back then but now it makes perfect sense!!! I love those small details!!! ( ̄ω ̄)

Hannah_Ana said:
Tons of Ratio action! Be still my fluttering heart...
My emotional state in a couple of words!!! ;'DDD

Ratio and Murasaki = the reason why I'm watching Hamatora >///>''' Haha, not only them, though, but still...

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I rather liked this episode. Learning more about Ratio and Birthday is always good! How sad is it to live with a minimum where you can tell people are about to die? That would seem very scary, but I'm glad Ratio is now putting it to great use by being a doctor who is able to genuinely help others, what a great way to turn something that seems like a negative into a positive.
Very well said!!! ^^


Now we know what Moral is capable of...it's getting really interesting!!! I feel like he might have kidnapped/killed the real Gasuke and is pretending to be him now! O-O
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Feb 13, 2014 3:40 PM

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Finally! An episode where Master's not just standing there grinding coffee! He actually served a drink!! The plot thickens!!


Lmao!!! xD This! I always wondered why he only grinds coffee he's been doing it non-stop!

Feb 13, 2014 5:34 PM
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Oh, man at first I thought that the old man is a baddie, but it turns out to be moral.
Feb 14, 2014 1:58 AM

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okay with the case..
just wtf with the truth -_-
Feb 14, 2014 7:32 AM

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Birthday and Ratio's friendship is really cute! Not too bad of an episode, the case didn't really make much sense to me but at least it was resolved nicely. Looks like Art's assistant isn't actually evil, and it was Moral who killed the scientist guy.
Feb 14, 2014 10:50 AM

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OOOOO wen will he meet Moral this reminds me abit of psycho pass lol
Feb 14, 2014 4:12 PM

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It was good, although the culprit was really predictable.

So that's why Birthday said in a previous episode that life is short.
Feb 14, 2014 11:59 PM

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The animation and the writing in this just keeps dropping each episode just like my score for this ;)
Feb 15, 2014 4:11 AM

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Somehow the perpetrator was obvious to me from the very start, but still the episode was lotsa' interesting to me. I just love character developments, and I got it this time around. Also, Moral seemingly has an awesome ability that I didn't really expect.
Feb 15, 2014 3:46 PM
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Was anyone else really caught off-guard by the Hollywood guy speaking fluent English?
Feb 15, 2014 4:25 PM
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"It sleeps here" Was Art's brother named It?
Cousin It is dead?! o.O

So Moral can change his appearance?
Feb 15, 2014 6:28 PM

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Wow, I just absolutely adore this series! The ending of this episode seemed rushed, but it was pretty good in general; props to the creators.
And I knew Moral could morph into other people, I just knew it!

Really great, can't wait for more; I see the plot beginning to form and I like the comedic aspects, and everything is drawn beautifully as well!

I wonder what surprise(s) the next episode will hold?
Feb 17, 2014 1:03 PM

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The episode seems kinda filler-ish when the hidden plot is already review. I hope Moral will make bigger moves next episode~
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