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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well, it's about time they give 13-ban more screen time in this show. However, I think his role in this show will likely be going against Zero especially with his desire to regain control the order of witches. Not much action but I think the psychology of the episode was good enough for the buildup. I just want to give Albus a hug ;_; |
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| 13 got more screen time. He's very good with what he says. Albus got wrecked by him. He knows nothing. Mercenary was brainwashed and was going to attack Zero. He still had doubts about her and that was why he was being controlled. Now their contact is over. So much trust issues. |
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| All I have to say is FUCK THIRTEEN |
| Things took a pretty dark turn this episode, really good episode but also pretty heartbreaking. :( Interesting that we got a more detailed account of what actually happened with the whole 'Grimoire of Zero' , In fact it's the very book that started this whole war. Must be a pretty heavy weight on Zero. :( Pretty surprised that the founder of the Sorcerers of Zero actually murdered so many people just to get his hands on that book. Felt sad for Albus when he realized that no one was truly his ally. Damn, Thirteen you devil that was some insane brainwashing he did on our Mercenary, though there might be some truth in what he says about Zero making contracts with demons to create her techniques. . The final scene between Zero and Mercenary was just heartbreaking, I felt so sad when Zero realized that Mercenary was having doubts and that's why he ended up being brainwashed. The final scene with her walking away was just so sad especially with the tone she used at the end. T.T What makes this entire thing all the more sad is that it happened a little after we saw that whole travel montage with all three of them having so much fun together. :(( Gaaahh! I hope everyone makes up |
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| I can't blame Mercenary for still having trust issues, considering his past. Zero probably took him for granted and was being naive (just she was being naive when she wrote the book thinking it will only be used for good). Not good, not good at all D: Honestly, i'm still not sure what Thirteen actually has in mind. He wants to get rid of Albus, it seems and screw over the Zero/Mercenary bond but why would he? Maybe obsession with Zero? Also that first scene before the OP was stupid. |
SmudyMay 15, 2017 9:46 AM
| That was sad. Zero and Mercenary got into a fight. This anime is starting to get better, the three witch factions, each one with its own ideology, and now Mercenary has a way to get bach to his human form. |
| Well, Thirteen certainly tore their little group apart with massive ease, didn't he? Very interesting episode. |
| Thirteen's statement about Witch and sacrifice sure feels realistic. And now, after Albus finally grasp the truth... Even Mercenary starting to get know about Zero. Thanks to Thirteen and his smile. |
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| That was some next level brainwashing Thirteen did. It was painfully seeing Zero realising that the mercenary had doubts. She was heartbroken. Also FUCK THIRTEEN |
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| To be honest, it would have been pretty awesome if what Thirteen said was the truth instead of a way to separate the Mercenary from Zero. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| I'm not sure where Zero gets the confidence that the mercenary is able to trust her unconditionally. He never had a good opinion of witches and she appeared out of nowhere not too long ago. She claims to be a powerful witch. Him having doubts was more than expected. |
| When that bell rang and they stopped fighting, I knew it was time to eat. That Thirteen is awful. How dare he ruin Zero and the mercenary's relationship? I think that vial contains poison not a spell. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
joe_g7 said: To be honest, it would have been pretty awesome if what Thirteen said was the truth instead of a way to separate the Mercenary from Zero. yeah it would have been a good plot twist but also a heartbreaker. |
| If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| God, I am actually pretty sad now.... Also, why were his eyes purple, weren't they blue before? |
 shit!! he got me! that fucking Poly boomed me! he's so good! (x4) |
Anathor said: I'm not sure where Zero gets the confidence that the mercenary is able to trust her unconditionally. He never had a good opinion of witches and she appeared out of nowhere not too long ago. She claims to be a powerful witch. Him having doubts was more than expected. Especially after Zero seemingly left Albus to the wolves. DW_lazy said: God, I am actually pretty sad now.... Also, why were his eyes purple, weren't they blue before? He was brainwashed. |
| Few maxims have done as much harm as, "Children should be seen and not heard." |
| that's right. mercenary is not a fool. if he trusts a witch so easily, he would have been killed by other witches long before. cant wait to see how they come back. zero is sad in episode 5 when she saw the magic she created for good is used to kill people. she regrets for the invention of magic somehow. this week again, i feels very short when ed comes out. it seems i just watched 7 or 8 minutes rather than 20. not enough... |
Niveen_Sleem said: When that bell rang and they stopped fighting, I knew it was time to eat. Almost dropped this show at that moment. Srsly, this is far beyond my level of tolerance. |
| So this was right in queue as many others anime. Also I think Zero was expecting way too much. If she wanted for him to trust her unconditionally they should have exchanged names. She isn't trusting him either and she is acting like a bitch. And 13 did not lie entirely. There is a part of zero that thinks exactly like that. Would she like him as a human? |
| That scene at the beginning really shows the time those two lived together. The way the city is built feels very weird. Those walls don't really make sense and wouldn't really work. I guess living in a country with lots of old walled cities made me sensible to nonsensical building or something xD. So the whole bulk of this episode was about 13 separating everyone by using implanting distrust and feel of betrayal everywhere. I kind of feel that this isn't goign to really amount to anything after one or two more episodes, but we'll see. |
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| Another nice episode, where 13 grows the Doubt in Mercenary respect Zero!!! If mean the separation of the team, because the young sorecerer is in prision too :/ |
| The fight ends cause it's time for dinner :) Albus gets a taste of reality and 13 manipulates yohei :( |
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| I just saw the promotional trailer(i liked one zero kara... face book fan page and found out the promotional trailer) and it has some spoilers(from the next episode), i will leave it on a spoiler(is not much information anyway and they could change it since it was from the promotional trailer). I liked this episode so far Spoiler from next episode behind the button |
| I love this episode,this is the atmosphere it should have been.Finally figure out how the setting is laid out and possible outcomes.This is the only thing doesn't add up they saying they are the only two left (compatriots)in the cave so who stole the book?another classmate? |
| I think the potion is poison or some shyt. |
| Lol dinner time ends the fight xD At first I thought damn, why the fuck is Youhei buying Thirteens shit so easily ? The explanation afterwards saved it a little bit, but I'm not 100% satisfied. In the end Thirteens plan still worked out, Zero and Youhei were temporarily seperated. Although the scene was kept simple it was still effective, felt bad for Zero and I'm mad at Youhei for jumping at conclusions. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Kamiyan3991 said: Niveen_Sleem said: When that bell rang and they stopped fighting, I knew it was time to eat. Almost dropped this show at that moment. Srsly, this is far beyond my level of tolerance. but it was funny and anyway it let space for some background explanation instead of fighting to death |
| If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
sakamoto-kun said: Lol dinner time ends the fight xD At first I thought damn, why the fuck is Youhei buying Thirteens shit so easily ? The explanation afterwards saved it a little bit, but I'm not 100% satisfied. In the end Thirteens plan still worked out, Zero and Youhei were temporarily seperated. Although the scene was kept simple it was still effective, felt bad for Zero and I'm mad at Youhei for jumping at conclusions. I thought the smoke in the room was suspicious and he was using it to brainwash Youhei. I still don't know if this theory is true or it was just Thirteen's wormtongue. |
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Niveen_Sleem said: sakamoto-kun said: Lol dinner time ends the fight xD At first I thought damn, why the fuck is Youhei buying Thirteens shit so easily ? The explanation afterwards saved it a little bit, but I'm not 100% satisfied. In the end Thirteens plan still worked out, Zero and Youhei were temporarily seperated. Although the scene was kept simple it was still effective, felt bad for Zero and I'm mad at Youhei for jumping at conclusions. I thought the smoke in the room was suspicious and he was using it to brainwash Youhei. I still don't know if this theory is true or it was just Thirteen's wormtongue. Yeah, Zero explained it afterwards, that Thirteen has some kind of skill to strenghten the doubt Youhei already had inside him. That's how I understand it. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Niveen_Sleem said: but it was funny and anyway it let space for some background explanation instead of fighting to death It'd be funny in Gintama but not here. You have to match narration, or else it looks stupid. |
Anathor said: I'm not sure where Zero gets the confidence that the mercenary is able to trust her unconditionally. He never had a good opinion of witches and she appeared out of nowhere not too long ago. She claims to be a powerful witch. Him having doubts was more than expected. Indeed especially when you consider his past; its not good; and its a past that would make him distrust almost anyone in general let alone a witch. And than you tack on on his perception * of what fate she left albus to. Though i would say he should have trusted her more.. but than think about it; he was trusting her more; and more and more. to the point where there was likely just faint doubt. However doubt is doubt and it was manipulated by that bastard. She was naive to think he could automatically trust without condition; however he was over hasty in allowing himself to be put in a position to be manipulated. Both screwed up; however hes clearly not happy about whats happened and she is clearly unhappy about it as well. I wonder whom will re-encounter the other ie save them first haha; Because 13 is clearly driving them apart for his own gain and purposes. Heres hoping its not to long before they start trying to seek reconciliation with each others (I assume it will only be 1 or 2 episodes before it takes place based off how the series has gone so far)./ |
sirwenceMay 15, 2017 1:25 PM
Lelouch0202 said: What makes this entire thing all the more sad is that it happened a little after we saw that whole travel montage with all three of them having so much fun together. :(( Gaaahh! I hope everyone makes up ^ THIS, and to think that there were people saying it was useless and boring filler with no importance! Boy, Mercenary sure has a lot to work on in order to repay his mess |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Kamiyan3991 said: Niveen_Sleem said: but it was funny and anyway it let space for some background explanation instead of fighting to death It'd be funny in Gintama but not here. You have to match narration, or else it looks stupid. it was explained afterwards, Zero tried to defend Mercenary from 13, so she attacked 13 because she thought that 13 was attacking Mercenary, is not like they wanted to fight to the death with no reason, if you wanted that, go watch Dragon Ball Super or some idiotic anime with non sensical fights |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Jack_Corvus96 said: it was explained afterwards, Zero tried to defend Mercenary from 13, so she attacked 13 because she thought that 13 was attacking Mercenary, is not like they wanted to fight to the death with no reason, if you wanted that, go watch Dragon Ball Super or some idiotic anime with non sensical fights Nah, that's not what I'm talking about. They didn't need to insert comic relief at this point. Honestly, it looked out of place like heck. Btw, you've shot yourself in the foot with that comparison. Comic relief is typical for series like: Bleach, Naruto and DB... |
| I'll be pretty disappointed if they get back together |
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| Damn, Thirteen sure screwed everything over. Wonder what will happen now. |
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Kamiyan3991 said: Jack_Corvus96 said: it was explained afterwards, Zero tried to defend Mercenary from 13, so she attacked 13 because she thought that 13 was attacking Mercenary, is not like they wanted to fight to the death with no reason, if you wanted that, go watch Dragon Ball Super or some idiotic anime with non sensical fights Nah, that's not what I'm talking about. They didn't need to insert comic relief at this point. Honestly, it looked out of place like heck. Btw, you've shot yourself in the foot with that comparison. Comic relief is typical for series like: Bleach, Naruto and DB... I wasn't talking about comic relief |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Kamiyan3991 said: Niveen_Sleem said: but it was funny and anyway it let space for some background explanation instead of fighting to death It'd be funny in Gintama but not here. You have to match narration, or else it looks stupid. they don't do it a lot anyway and I don't think there will be space for jokes the coming episodes. |
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Niveen_Sleem said: When that bell rang and they stopped fighting, I knew it was time to eat. That Thirteen is awful. How dare he ruin Zero and the mercenary's relationship? I think that vial contains poison not a spell. Well I doubt its ruined; heavily strained though most certainly. I mean they both made some errors in judgement; including what he assumed she was doing with Albus but a more obvious one would be.. Why would you go alone to a witch you openly distrust and have no bond with; He does 'trust' zero just not unconditionally and who could blame him with his past. And she made a mistake thinking someone like him could trust unconditionally that easily it would take much time but it was getting there. Also she can't expect him to know her mind its kind of obvious at times if she doesn't explain it he won't fully understand it (her more subtle motives) .. and Albus simply feels entirely betrayed But I foresee Zero and her Lov int.. I mean Merc Back together in the near anime future. 1-3 episodes ? and I agree that 'potion' is more apt to be poison than anything else hed be a fool to take it |
| First Samurai Jack' last episode and now this episode.... Damn, my happiness is gone again! Still it is a very good episode and very informative one (now is very clear for me the whole situation around the grimiore). |
| That was funny how they stopped just like that so they could have dinner, don't blame them though, empty stomach = no good. Damn Thirteen is one crafty bastard. I'm pretty sure his goal from the start was the split those 3 up, he obviously wants Zero all to himself. Looks like our furry enemy from a couple of episodes ago might have set a trap for Mercenary after watching that preview. Hopefully Zero comes to the rescue and they become partners again. |
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| If he have thrust to 0 none of this will happen DON'T EVER THINK USE THAT POTION NEXY EP |
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| I simply can't get myself to feel anything at the end of this episode. It is absurd for Zero to think that the pile of fluff wouldn't have doubts. He's been through so much and grew up in a hostile environment. It's not like he will suddenly trust you "because you are you". |
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