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Jan 10, 2014 2:33 AM

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Did we just get the same flashback in two straight episodes? I think we did.
Jan 10, 2014 2:56 AM

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tsudecimo said:
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First of all, that ED... just beautiful, especially compared to the mediocre previous one.

Really? I thought it was really good and it became one of my favorites. The more I listen to it the more I like it.

Those Background images are great

You're right, it's actually pretty good, I for some odd reason had the one before in mind. Still, nothing beats ED 6...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g6eOuP_o7M
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
Jan 10, 2014 3:59 AM
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btw I have a question regarding Madara's reanimation.

Madara wanted to have him be revived by Nagato's Rinne Rebirth, why would he want that?

Jiraiya couldn't be revived(probably he was too far away/his body was lost), but Madara could get revived with this technique? Was his body stored somewhere?(and Kabuto found out?)
Isn't the Edo Tensei also 'stronger' in the sense that you have unlimited chakra and your body cannot be 'broken' but you can only get sealed or undo the edo tensei jutsu(which happened).
Madara knew about the Edo Tensei jutsu(he knows how to keep himself in 'Edo Tensei state') but he preferred Rinne Rebirth, does this get explained later on or did I miss something?
Question, questions questions...
Jan 10, 2014 4:13 AM

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I'm not a manga reader so this is based on anime knowledge.

Rufeegee said:

Madara wanted to have him be revived by Nagato's Rinne Rebirth, why would he want that?

Because the Edo Tensi wasn't an option.

Rufeegee said:
Jiraiya couldn't be revived(probably he was too far away/his body was lost), but Madara could get revived with this technique? Was his body stored somewhere?(and Kabuto found out?)

Judging from what we know about Rinne Rebirth. The corpse must be close to Nagato. So Obito probably stored Madara's dead body somewhere, which is probably an agreement made by Madara and Obito. I'm assuming Kabuto found it somehow, which is why Obito was so shocked upon the revealing of the sixth coffin.

Rufeegee said:
Isn't the Edo Tensei also 'stronger' in the sense that you have unlimited chakra and your body cannot be 'broken' but you can only get sealed or undo the edo tensei jutsu(which happened).

Yeah it's a better reviving jutsu but Madara doesn't know anyone who can do it for him.

Rufeegee said:
Madara knew about the Edo Tensei jutsu(he knows how to keep himself in 'Edo Tensei state') but he preferred Rinne Rebirth, does this get explained later on or did I miss something?
Question, questions questions...

I'm guessing Madara knows about the Edo Tensi jutsu and how it works because Haraishma's brother (the second Hokage) is the one who created it. So that's is probably why he was familiar with it.


A manga reader will obviously give you better answers though. But I think my answers are plausible.
Jan 10, 2014 5:50 AM
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Madara looks sooo sick animated! XD
Jan 10, 2014 6:15 AM
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tsudecimo said:
I'm not a manga reader so this is based on anime knowledge.

Rufeegee said:

Madara wanted to have him be revived by Nagato's Rinne Rebirth, why would he want that?

Because the Edo Tensi wasn't an option.



Rufeegee said:
Madara knew about the Edo Tensei jutsu(he knows how to keep himself in 'Edo Tensei state') but he preferred Rinne Rebirth, does this get explained later on or did I miss something?
Question, questions questions...

I'm guessing Madara knows about the Edo Tensi jutsu and how it works because Haraishma's brother (the second Hokage) is the one who created it. So that's is probably why he was familiar with it.

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Ah that clears up a lot thank you, one thing though, Madara said something to Obito about 'imperfect state' of this reanimation this episode, this makes me wonder if he had planned to be reanimated even more powerful.
For now these answers are clear, thank you very much.
Jan 10, 2014 9:03 AM
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Rufeegee said:
tsudecimo said:
I'm not a manga reader so this is based on anime knowledge.

Rufeegee said:

Madara wanted to have him be revived by Nagato's Rinne Rebirth, why would he want that?

Because the Edo Tensi wasn't an option.



Rufeegee said:
Madara knew about the Edo Tensei jutsu(he knows how to keep himself in 'Edo Tensei state') but he preferred Rinne Rebirth, does this get explained later on or did I miss something?
Question, questions questions...

I'm guessing Madara knows about the Edo Tensi jutsu and how it works because Haraishma's brother (the second Hokage) is the one who created it. So that's is probably why he was familiar with it.

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Ah that clears up a lot thank you, one thing though, Madara said something to Obito about 'imperfect state' of this reanimation this episode, this makes me wonder if he had planned to be reanimated even more powerful.
For now these answers are clear, thank you very much.


A key reason Madara didn't want to be revived by Edo Tensei is this simple answer: you can't be the Jinchuuriki of the 10 tails with a corpse. Hence his plan to give his own rinnigan eyes to Nagato as a child and have him use it to revive him when the time was right. As for the imperfect state this episode, Madara was reffering to the statue, Obito was resurrecting the 10 tails in an imperfect way as he didn't possess the actual 8 and 9 tails, only a small portion of their chakra, thus the resurrection would be imperfect until they get the other Bijuus.
Jan 10, 2014 10:34 AM

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Good episode , lol the beginning when obito woke up thinking madara is shinigami XD
Loved the new ED :3!

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Jan 10, 2014 1:14 PM

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Great episode but didn't feel the flashback of Obito's being crushed was needed again. But nice to see a little into the relationship between Madara and Obito.

Love the new ED, nice music and shows Obito's life well. Very nice.

Really looking forward to the next episode, seeing as I haven't read the manga I don't know and really want to know what exactly happened to Kakashi and Rin after Obito's supposed "death".
Jan 10, 2014 2:41 PM

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Regarding madara's reanimation, its better to be revived with rinne tensei because of three reasons:
1. The rinnegan that madara posesses in this moment, is just one bestowed to him by the reanimation technique, which means that its nowhere near the real rinnegan in comparison. In the near future you will see how the rinnegan is used properly, since nagato wasn't really someone able to draw its full potential.

2. Have you reallu thought on the reason for which madara has the face of hashirama implanted in his own body? Without spoiling much, i can tell you that to use that advantage he would need to have a living body.

3. Madara just wants to feel the fight. Reanimation doesnt give him that

P.s: I'm a manga reader.
Jan 10, 2014 4:28 PM

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Gedo statue made Madara live so long. Same with Obito : 0.

Edit: So Madara wanted to be brought back by Rinne Rebirth so he could be all powerful? Edo-Tensei limits his powers? If he was brought back to life with that technique, will he be old and frail like in that flashback or young (during his time)?
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Jan 10, 2014 4:39 PM

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Yea a second flashback ep!!. I hope they do the back story another time next episode. I'm probably to retarded to remember this for more than a week.
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Jan 10, 2014 5:11 PM

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AnimeFan500 said:
Gedo statue made Madara live so long. Same with Obito : 0.

Edit: So Madara wanted to be brought back by Rinne Rebirth so he could be all powerful? Edo-Tensei limits his powers? If he was brought back to life with that technique, will he be old and frail like in that flashback or young (during his time)?


Read my post above yours regarding your first question. Edo tensei doesn't and can't recreate rinnegan perfectly.
+ I can't really answer that question about being old or young since it would be major spoiler.
Jan 10, 2014 6:40 PM

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n008head said:
Regarding madara's reanimation, its better to be revived with rinne tensei because of three reasons:
1. The rinnegan that madara posesses in this moment, is just one bestowed to him by the reanimation technique, which means that its nowhere near the real rinnegan in comparison. In the near future you will see how the rinnegan is used properly, since nagato wasn't really someone able to draw its full potential.

2. Have you reallu thought on the reason for which madara has the face of hashirama implanted in his own body? Without spoiling much, i can tell you that to use that advantage he would need to have a living body.

3. Madara just wants to feel the fight. Reanimation doesnt give him that

P.s: I'm a manga reader.


lol God the anime viewers have so many questions about this. I guess its no surprise people want to know. Though like n008head said, hes pretty much correct. Although i don't think its really necessary to divuldge this type of information, it is kind of potential spoilers and for any one in doubt, this will all be explained at a later date for sure.

But yes the Rinne Tensei in essence revives madara with the rinnegen of the reanimation which compared to the original rinnegen during his era, its nothing even close to it. As if madara can't become even more of a beast then he is now, he's already clearly the strongest on the battlefield, but im getting ahead of my self and don't want to ruin the impact to much.

And your kind of treading territory that is much further in the story lol. Their is still alot of development that takes place before any of this is fully explained.



Jan 10, 2014 7:18 PM

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Solid episode. A bit too much re use of old scenes.
The ED is great.
Jan 11, 2014 9:25 AM

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God Loved this episode! And the Ending! Naruto goes dark next episode! 5/5. And its kinda funny seeing u guys complaining about the doubleflashback! Just live with it. One piece is a major culprit in overusing flashbacks!
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Jan 11, 2014 10:05 AM

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Kazi9 said:
God Loved this episode! And the Ending! Naruto goes dark next episode! 5/5. And its kinda funny seeing u guys complaining about the doubleflashback! Just live with it. One piece is a major culprit in overusing flashbacks!
Dude are you even reasonable now? Naruto is the very king is overusing flashbacks long times many time. One piece would laugh ad this.
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Jan 11, 2014 12:09 PM

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johnyjohny said:
Kazi9 said:
God Loved this episode! And the Ending! Naruto goes dark next episode! 5/5. And its kinda funny seeing u guys complaining about the doubleflashback! Just live with it. One piece is a major culprit in overusing flashbacks!
Dude are you even reasonable now? Naruto is the very king is overusing flashbacks long times many time. One piece would laugh ad this.



Lol but I prefer naruto's fb to one piece
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Jan 11, 2014 2:37 PM

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Kazi9 said:
johnyjohny said:
Kazi9 said:
God Loved this episode! And the Ending! Naruto goes dark next episode! 5/5. And its kinda funny seeing u guys complaining about the doubleflashback! Just live with it. One piece is a major culprit in overusing flashbacks!
Dude are you even reasonable now? Naruto is the very king is overusing flashbacks long times many time. One piece would laugh ad this.



Lol but I prefer naruto's fb to one piece
Don't you think it is freaking annoying to see the same flash back you saw in the previous episode? The Itachi pursuit arc had even 3 fb episodes of the same flashbacks in a row WTF?!?!
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Jan 11, 2014 2:49 PM

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Saddened by the reuse of Kakishi Gaiden for like the 3rd/4th time,
but the new material was really interesting with Obito and Madara's relation
Jan 11, 2014 3:51 PM

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I like the new ED dedicate to Obito.. its quite emotional.
Jan 11, 2014 4:46 PM

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Very good episode, Madara <3 And I love Obito's voice, it reminds me of "Deidara-senpai~" times. New ed is also decent, almost like ones from the good old first series of Naruto. Great that Obito got his own theme ending, though it's full of spoilers.

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Don't you think it is freaking annoying to see the same flash back you saw in the previous episode? The Itachi pursuit arc had even 3 fb episodes of the same flashbacks in a row WTF?!?!

I agree that Naruto has too much flashbacks, but it's been a problem for a whole series. Still, it could have been worse, the last episode showed the scene of Obito getting crushed two times, almost one by one for some reason LOL. Well, honestly, I still choose it rather than One Piece's horrible pacing.
Jan 11, 2014 4:48 PM

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Well other than the fact that obito reminds me of naruto, obito converting to madara's ideals seems unlikely in the past.

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Jan 11, 2014 6:16 PM

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Well other than the fact that obito reminds me of naruto, obito converting to madara's ideals seems unlikely in the past.

Wait a bit before saying that. Next episode will show why he went to madara
Jan 12, 2014 12:03 AM

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johnyjohny said:
Don't you think it is freaking annoying to see the same flash back you saw in the previous episode? The Itachi pursuit arc had even 3 fb episodes of the same flashbacks in a row WTF?!?!

I agree that Naruto has too much flashbacks, but it's been a problem for a whole series. Still, it could have been worse, the last episode showed the scene of Obito getting crushed two times, almost one by one for some reason LOL. Well, honestly, I still choose it rather than One Piece's horrible pacing.
Well that where opinions differ. For me it's the worst kind of filler material.
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Jan 12, 2014 4:31 AM
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Btw thanks again for answering all my questions everyone!
Wondering about all this stuff and trying to find out through the information that's available right now, brought to us by the animation in the past without spoiling anything of course is part of the experience for me.

Every episode the past few episodes have been giving me more and more questions.
The suspense is killing me!:P

I'll try to wait more and rely on Kishimoto and the animation team to reveal everything in due time.
But the wait surely is hard, it's a good thing there will be a double episode soon.
Jan 12, 2014 6:13 AM

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Nice ep, but did they have to re-repeat so much of the flashbacks? I was yawning towards the end...

What's really got me confused is why Obito's left side of the face is wrinkled but lil Obito's right side is in that condition?
Jan 13, 2014 7:59 AM

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Two week break and they still need flashbacks?...............besides that ok episode. The new ED is beast!
Jan 13, 2014 2:36 PM

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Not really a spoiler. It's kinda obvious that Lady Tsunade is going to die. Just think think about it.


I know how can some one, severed by the torso possibly live.

Hey. Obito was cut in half (nearly) and he lived.
Jan 14, 2014 12:39 AM

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link9us said:
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Not really a spoiler. It's kinda obvious that Lady Tsunade is going to die. Just think think about it.


I know how can some one, severed by the torso possibly live.

Hey. Obito was cut in half (nearly) and he lived.


Their is reasoning behind that which people will find out in the following upcoming episodes anyways.



Jan 14, 2014 1:03 AM

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Ending theme was awesome.

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Jan 14, 2014 6:31 AM

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I don't know why ppls hate the manga! I get it they prefer it animated but what pisses me off is that when kishi releases a manga someone says crap! When it gets animated pple say "wow best episode! Ever"
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This episode only covered 2 chapters, which I don't mind, since the anime is approaching the manga now. Also the ending theme showing Obito's life was great, and fucking emotional as hell.
I agree it was an emotional ending theme. It confirms to me that this part of the arc is going to be centered around Obito's hidden past. I also like how the preview for the next episode just showed the moon redding to avoid spoilers. A first for the anime.
Jan 14, 2014 11:53 PM
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let just say stunade will get help from her college thats why she survive and im starting to thing madara is not a bad person,
they are just been misunderstod specially he just want to creat a world where you can no longer say Hell(of course project stukuyumi) if there someone who made him realize that there is another way.

i can feel madara and obito pain, earth is truly is hell(for some people who got tremendous lose and disability on there life) earth is hell because of the people living in it.
Jan 15, 2014 8:34 PM

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I am actually kind of happy that the next several episodes are going to expand on the whole obito back story, more so then the manga has.
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Jan 16, 2014 12:43 AM

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This ep sucked hard only back and forward with obito gets in the cave stones falling on him and again and again....
Jan 17, 2014 1:00 AM
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so obito developed his ability of his own kamui and passed through the falling rocks and end up with madara..wow madara looked so old and still was planing to take over the world ... and obito was just like naruto cant imagine what happen to him to make him a killer and ruthless puppet master :3 i cant wait for the next episode :3
Mar 11, 2014 1:04 PM
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Not a bad episode, but I don't really care to much about Obito's past especially since most of it has been revealed in Kakashi's episodes. I just want to get on with the current story right now.
Apr 13, 2014 8:37 AM

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Episode was fine, but really, someone should really do the counting for the flashback episode:total episode ratio for this war arc. Not sure what to think of the new ED yet. Next episode is probably gonna be awesome, if the studio does it right.
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May 31, 2014 12:20 PM

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Too many flashbacks...
Dec 16, 2014 5:32 AM
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Interesting episode in my opinion. I like Madara and Obito's conversation, and they even joke ahahaha.
Nice new ending song, too~
Apr 7, 2015 11:22 AM
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Yeah, really interesting episode. I wonder how Obito and Madara will join forces in the end....
That scene with Tsunade was intense, god....
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New ED is nice also the old Madara interaction with Obito was interesting
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Very good. Very faithful of manga. I liked expression of naruto to see real madara.
Know origins about traumas and kakashi and obito.
Mar 29, 2017 9:52 PM

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OH SHIT! Tsunade got split in half!
Dat half Obito body.
So that's how Madara was still alive.

Dat new ED. I will miss the shit out of Black Night Town, but that new ED is so good. Both the song and visuals showing all that happened with Obito.
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LOL this part was so q after he saw the scythe xD
Apr 27, 2017 5:28 PM
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Wasn't madara reanimated by Kabuto so how the hell he still alive in the flashback.
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too many flashbacks the cut the rhythm!!!
Well Madara saved Obito, but Madara has a plan for the kid!!! kekeke
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too many flashbacks the cut the rhythm!!!
Well, Madara saved Obito, but Madara has a plan for the kid!!! kekeke
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