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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Suwa really is best guy, I really wanted him to stay with Naho, also I really disliked Kakeru, at least Naho seems happy. But it was good to actually see how thing turned out in the end. |
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OriharaShinra said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Suwa really is best guy, I really wanted him to stay with Naho, also I really disliked Kakeru, at least Naho seems happy. But it was good to actually see how thing turned out in the end. I personally think it makes sense that she ends up with Kakeru. The events that caused Naho to fall for Suwa didn't happen the same way so she didn't start gaining feelings for Suwa and her feelings for Kakeru became stronger. I wouldn't have liked if Suwa and Naho ended up together in the main timeline because then it would have been going back on his word that he would always support them. He took one for the team definitely, but to make up for what his shitty future self did. |
| Suwa is the best guy for sure. |
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OriharaShinra said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Suwa really is best guy, I really wanted him to stay with Naho, also I really disliked Kakeru, at least Naho seems happy. But it was good to actually see how thing turned out in the end. ----- I felt bad, I was hoping they shown us who Suwa ended up with. |
| Kakeru x Naho is so trash I feel like I'm watching Twilight Suwa x Naho is OTP Also I hate Kakeru This whole series is NTR |
| There is still no subs for this right? I guess I will just go ahead and learn japanese, BRB When I started watching the movie I was really disappointed by all the recycled material. As it went on the story brought me in again. Great conclusion to a beautiful story. We also get a better development behind Suwa's decision and we get to see adult Kakeru. I wish someday I can say the same to my past self. also... Azu??? =) |
TyrantRCJun 1, 2017 5:56 PM
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| Sweet it got subbed, time for some NTR. |
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| Overall a decent episode for what little production-love this series received. While most of the movie was simply recycled scenes, they gave what they promised; a somewhat deep insight into Suwa's perspective of Naho and Kakeru's relationship. I particularly liked how they broke down Suwa's perspective of himself and patched it back up. That said, while he definitely was the "best guy" of the series, it was clear that he and Naho weren't meant to be together. In the alternate reality without Kakeru, it was extremely obvious how distant Naho was; not only towards Suwa and their son but to the rest of the group as well. She never really had a full smile until the scene with Kakeru in the future. Kind of wanted some closure concerning whether Suwa moved on but I guess that wouldn't contribute to the story. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough OC to stir up my emotions. While they did tie off the ending nicely, the recaps + animation quality watered everything down. |
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| Well this sure was a wonderful perspective shift! Really loved it how they not only managed to sort of recap the main story, but also provide the whole other perspective on the story! Really touching and just great as a whole! And I really found that ending very interesting how they handled it. All in all a great watch. |
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| So this movie outright confirmed that Naho is a lying skank, and that she would jump at the first chance to be with Kakeru she gets. Okay. As if the anime adaptation wasn't bad enough, this COMPLETELY DESTROYED the meaning of the original story and each character's motivation. It went from being a heartwarming tale about a group of friends trying to save their buddy from killing himself, to the story of a self-centered idiot that only cares about her own happiness and nobody else's. Nice job Takano Ichigo, you just finished destroying your story in the name of money. |
InabaPrism said: What are you talking about? So this movie outright confirmed that Naho is a lying skank, and that she would jump at the first chance to be with Kakeru she gets. Okay. As if the anime adaptation wasn't bad enough, this COMPLETELY DESTROYED the meaning of the original story and each character's motivation. It went from being a heartwarming tale about a group of friends trying to save their buddy from killing himself, to the story of a self-centered idiot that only cares about her own happiness and nobody else's. Nice job Takano Ichigo, you just finished destroying your story in the name of money. If anyone is self-centered its Futura Suwa. He was the terrible one for taking advantage of her in a moment of weakness. Past Suwa even said so and even though the other consoled him, he knows his future self did a shitty thing. They said he was a good guy for being Kakeru's substitute, but only this version would have been that if Kakeru still had died. Future Suwa did it for his own selfish purposes. It also shows that even though she was aware of Suwa's feelings because he confessed in the original timeline, Naho only thought about him in that way after Kakeru's death. |
JakJun 10, 2017 12:56 PM
| I for one think this movie made the series make a lot more sense. As much as it sucks for Suwa, he never had a chance with Naho unless Kakeru died. While his asshole future self took advantage of that, his past self realized that Kakeru was too important to him. His future self said if they had reconciled, then Naho would have rejected him. They technically did, but then Kakeru committed suicide. The series made it seem like that she was gravitating towards Suwa before Kakeru's death, but that wasn't the case at all. I've noticed a lot of people butthurt that their ship (Suwa x Naho) failed, but it was always going to fail. The only conceivable timeline where they get together is a timeline where Kakeru died. I think there were even subtle hints that they didn't have the perfect marriage as it made it seem. Due to their guilt and regret, plus that fact that I believe future Naho still had feelings for Kakeru. Like when future Suwa wakes up and finds her crying because she was dreaming about Kakeru. Future Suwa didn't look too happy. If it had been Past Suwa from the main timeline, he would have stayed up and consoled her. Futura Suwa though just goes back to sleep. |
| I don't care what anyone says, this is 10/10 for me.....This is exactly what I wanted to see from the new timeline flashforward Seeing how their kid loves Suwa so much (Whom btw is just the greatest guy ever after watching this and I have the utmost respect for) is just way too kawaii and I'm REALLY happy that Azu and what's his name got together too Man I loved this so much and @YukihiraBonBon, I couldn't agree more with your post....Well said man (Great first post too) |
| Finally got a chance to watch this movie. It was pretty good, especially the new stuff. I dont really have a strong opinion as to who I ship Naho with, but its nice seeing how selfless Suwa is. That part where Naho and Suwa wake up from a dream, about a timeline where Kakeru is alive.... got me a little confused. Was it all a dream or was that a timeline thats about to happen due to the letters??? :P Hagita x Azu, thats all i ever wated <3 |
| half of the movie is useless and the other half shows almost nothing lol suwa still better chara so i'm not bothered by some screentime, but it was a pretty unnecessary movie tbh |
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| Suwa is seriously the best bro ever. Really hope that whole thing wasn't just a dream and I'm glad the original timeline still exists. For someone who's almost going to leave the school they've been in for years, that last reunion scene brought tears to my eyes. |
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| I haven't watched the movie, but reading the comments here it seems Kakeru and Naho got together? If so that makes me really happy I was hoping since this movie was announced it would happen and it did! I honestly never like Naho and Suwa together they just didn't click with me he is an amazing character, but I just can't ship these two together sorry. xD I want to see what adult Kakeru looks like so I hope the fansubs come out soon so I can just skip to the end lol. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| I feel so bad for Suwa. Wtf. In the alternate timeline, Naho and Kakeru get married... and Suwa is some bachelor uncle who babysits their kid? Jesus, that's depressing. It would've been better to see Suwa having moved on. |
PknoctisJun 12, 2017 8:56 PM
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| hmmmmmmmmmmmm to discussion above, guess I can only regurgitate my thoughts :-D glasses and shortie sorry of together both timelines? cute original timeline Suwa loved naho, leading to his actions, understood his actions and out of love for naho wrote letter. lettered timeline naho was stupid, screw her, however Suwa still having love to naho cooperated and though pretty sad, did end up quite happy, I am happy for him <3 lettered timeline Suwa and 3rd girl single babies SUPER adorable both timelines original timeline gets confirmation <3 I had great distaste for kakeru and naho, but the 10 years future where everything worked out made me very happy. ok, sorry, bye |
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| I don't get how people are missing the goodness here. You can't turn Naho into the bad guy. Yeah, she was kinda dumb and passive but they were kids. And if moving on from Kakeru's death and trying to be happy with Suwa is wrong then Suwa is equally as guilty for knowingly following through with the relationship when he knew she would probably never lose her feelings for Kakeru even after he passed. It's a tragic story. And it wasn't sad at all seeing Suwa close and loving with Naho and Kakeru's child. It was the moment when you realize he really did cherish his friends and how Naho felt. It was the ultimate love someone could give another. Not everyone ends up with the person they truly first loved, but that doesn't mean you can't move on and grow with that unrequited love. Suwa is really an amazing character. |
| Feel so sad for Suwa he is so sweet and caring |
| This is why i didnt' want to watch this shitty cashgrab. Ill pretend that I didn't watch this In my time line Suwa ends up with naho again. Fuck kakeru, i felt sorry for him in the manga but the anime destroyed him |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Takamura-sama said: The anime was a damn near perfect adaptation..........Wut kind of argument is this even lolThis is why i didnt' want to watch this shitty cashgrab. Ill pretend that I didn't watch this In my time line Suwa ends up with naho again. Fuck kakeru, i felt sorry for him in the manga but the anime destroyed him |
Tokoya said: Takamura-sama said: The anime was a damn near perfect adaptation..........Wut kind of argument is this even lolThis is why i didnt' want to watch this shitty cashgrab. Ill pretend that I didn't watch this In my time line Suwa ends up with naho again. Fuck kakeru, i felt sorry for him in the manga but the anime destroyed him Lol no the anime felt off for some reason. The character's VA was a terrible decision. The ost's didn't give the right vibe. It was a total different experience. |
| In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
| I feel bad for Suwa. He's the best guy. Naho said that she would marry him even if Kakeru was still alive. But... Poor guy, he knew she would never love him and he was right. |
| (first forum post ooh) Tbh, I'm really glad she ended up with Kakeru, but the ending got me a little confused. There was a lot of recycled material / flashbacks to the prequel, which could make it a little boring for some, but as of myself, I had watched Orange on January 2017, so I was okay, being reminded of all the stuff that had happened in the prequel. But they could've used more story instead of the load of flashbacks. It was too much, not to mention that the actual story started already halfway into the movie. |
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| Watching this made all the feels come out again... liked the recap because I felt it helped setting the vibe and the atmosphere of the story again, so we could get more into it. Agree that this movie feels like fanservice, but even so I loved it!! When I finished the manga and anime, was happy with the ending, but of course wanted more about the afterwards. Since I'm more the see to believe type of person, I couldn't be happier to see Naho and Kakeru in the future! Just didn't feel the need to show they had a son as well and they made look worse showing Suwa taking care of him like some sad nanny Basically I don't think Naho and Kakeru's future should look the same as Naho and Suwa's future Confusing but interesting the way they showed everyone's perspective and thoughts, like going back and forth, the present, the past and the future, including all the parallel worlds. It was good to see Azu and Hagita together and of course, this movie made me love and cry even more for Suwa! Seriously, if Suwa really existed, he would be the perfection of a person/friend/boyfriend/husband T^T |
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| Poor Suwa ;-; but at least his self got to marry Naho and have a kid with her |
| Hmm a decent movie. A 7/10 from me. Good to see a happy ending though it is too sad about Suwa. Although I still don't get people saying Suwa is just a replacement for Naho in original timeline. She genuinely loves him but the reason that doesn't come to pass in the new timeline is because the events responsible for having those feelings don't happen. So she still loves Kakeru in this timeline. Now that doesn't mean original timeline Naho doesn't love Suwa and would go for Kakeru if he was suddenly brought back to life. In that case she would still be with Suwa in that timeline because they have gone through a lot more events which made her fall in love with him. That is not going to change. And that doesn't make new timeline Naho bad for not noticing or not returning Suwa's feelings. She loves Kakeru and the events that made her fall in love with Suwa don't happen here so she does not love him. As simple as that. How anyone cannot see or understand this is beyond me. |
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| well at least i was able to enjoy this a little bit more than the series. still pretty meh though. liked the ending |
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| To be honest, I felt like the movie wrapped up the entire series pretty nicely. Suwa is best boy without a doubt, once again. 9/10. |
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James278 said: Hmm a decent movie. A 7/10 from me. Good to see a happy ending though it is too sad about Suwa. Although I still don't get people saying Suwa is just a replacement for Naho in original timeline. She genuinely loves him but the reason that doesn't come to pass in the new timeline is because the events responsible for having those feelings don't happen. So she still loves Kakeru in this timeline. Now that doesn't mean original timeline Naho doesn't love Suwa and would go for Kakeru if he was suddenly brought back to life. In that case she would still be with Suwa in that timeline because they have gone through a lot more events which made her fall in love with him. That is not going to change. And that doesn't make new timeline Naho bad for not noticing or not returning Suwa's feelings. She loves Kakeru and the events that made her fall in love with Suwa don't happen here so she does not love him. As simple as that. How anyone cannot see or understand this is beyond me. I disagree. 2nd timeline Suwa would have been a replacement because of the effects of the letters. If Kakeru still died, he would have lived on as Kakeru's substitute. 1st timeline Suwa did it for his own selfish purposes because he went after Naho when he knew she was weak and fragile due to Kakeru dying not long before that. 1st timeline Naho pretty clearly still had feelings for Kakeru even if she genuinely loved Suwa at that point. It also seemed to affect their marriage. When 1st timeline Naho was sobbing about Kakeru towards the end. Suwa acted cold and annoyed and didn't even bother to comfort his wife. If it had been 2nd timeline Suwa in that same position, he would have stayed up and comforted her. Obviously Naho would stay with Suwa in the 1st timeline, but she probably would be very conflicted. It just sucks for Suwa because the only timeline where he has a chance is one where Kakeru dies. |
| Suwa's point of view and more about what was said in his letter. Best Bro. ;-; And of course, Kakeru and Naho are a couple in the end with a kid :) It was nice seeing them all look into the sunset. Yay, Hagita and Azusa end up together in the 2nd timeline! Huhuhu, I was hoping for that :3 I don't care if they recycled scenes from the anime. I think of it this movie as extended scenes they didn't get to use in the tv series. Overall, I enjoyed it. |
KilikcliaJun 15, 2017 8:40 PM
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| THE ULTIMATE FUCKING NTR They made fucking Suwa hold their love child of NTR at the end. Can you spit on my face any more?? The nerve of these fuckers. Naho confirmed bitch. Kakeru confirmed NTR king. Suwa best boy of all time confirmed. 1/10 |
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| Really nice movie, was great to see the story from Suwas pov. And as if we didn't know it already he's legitimately the best guy ever. 7/10 |
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| The after story I always wanted, nice movie. Most of the movie was pretty much a recap presented with some additional perspective from Suwa's side of things so I don't really have much to comment on since I've already done most of it, that being said the recaps were still fun to watch. Suwa truly has a heart of gold, why are you such a nice guy Suwa? :( Honestly, it really is amazing how he supports Kakeru and Naho while foregoing his feelings for her. Lot of bittersweet scenes from his perspective but nevertheless I think it was right for Kakeru and Naho to end up together in the present timeline cause that was one of the main points of the story. Hagita as savage as always with his comments. XD Really liked the scene where Suwa cycles by Naho and Kakeru on the bridge. "It's your life, make your own decisions" It's adorable how Kakeru and Naho's kid loves Suwa so much. 8/10 |
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| I'm also a Suwa fan, but I'm very biased. It's not 100% confirmed that there is another timeline. If not, that means Suwa agreed to kill his own child! No matter how things turn out, there's always ONE person that doesn't exist 10 years in the future. It's either Kakeru (and then also his child as we have learned now) or it's Suwa's child. This has bothered me in the series already and the movie has made things only worse. That kid of Suwa was so cute and now it doesn't get to exist? .... unless there's really more than one timeline? .... Puh ..... -__- Is Kakeru's life worth more than the life of the kid of Suwa and Naho? .... |
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| Suwa was my favorite character during the series,here too He is tall,handsome,well built,red haired,selfless as fuck and has the best heart...I would rather have him end up with Kakeru to save him instead of the Bitch Supreme,she would replace him,their memories and their child for a dead mean...after 10 years...JESUS. WE need to do some charity work.Let's shag Suwa in turns,I'll go first,the man deserves the best |
 Basically everyone's thoughts. |
| Even Naho and Kakeru's kid loves Suwa instead of mommy,the mother superior of bitches What can be said,the kid has taste  |
| This wasn't bad (while the series was great) but really wasn't necessary and just didn't seem to know when to end. |
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