16bit Sensation: Another Layer Episode 13 Discussion

So Konoha went back to 1999 and gave the game and the letter to Mamoru and the Alcohol Soft team, but they just didn't show it to us?
And the past Alсohol Soft team did not do anything for this game themselves, but their future versions from the alternate world did. But they got the money ans moved to US anyway as in the other timeline.
How this game is different from the last one? why this game left Akihabara looking the way it supposed to look?
I suspect what was meant was that the previous game elements from everywhere it could, which is why Fate, Stein's Gate, Clannad, etc. didn't come out afterwards.
and this game doesn't interfere with future games, but it's still great game on it's own.
but it's never explained properly.
Why do I have to guess?
i thought it will be one of my top favorites of the season
I must sadly admit that it didn't happen. 5/10 probably

also why were the guys from UFO waiting for Konoha? they could find imagination in other forms of media like books and movies.

The letter is for Mamoru in 1999. As for the game, Konoha has to convince some other publisher to sell it to compete with The Last Waltz. Sounds like something Touya could help with. And this is supposed to somehow prevent the entire Japanese games industry from uprooting itself, moving to America, and never releasing all the games Konoha loved. (Kind of funny how in a timeline in which Akihabara lost its anime culture, Steins;Gate was also lost.)


If anything, I think it makes sense to silently remove Konoha's name from The Last Waltz, and maybe put it on The Things I Hold Dear. Then, The Last Waltz won't have some mysterious, missing creator for people to wonder about.

Maybe we'll get an episode 12.5 OVA. But most likely, we can only imagine how Konoha used this game to keep anime culture in Akihabara.
That said, this reminds me of the point in a game when you're about to face the final boss and move beyond the final point at which you can roam the world and do what you want:


Strangely enough, some people commenting on the earlier episodes were right: by time-travelling, Konoha keeps Alcohol Soft alive so it can make her game with her heroine in 2023.

Just noticed, that's Konoha's heroine, Nanako, on the center billboard. Coincidentally, opposite Dejiko on the transparent billboard, another character from around the same time.

When she opens the Comic Party box isn't she supposed to go to 1999? Why'd she go straight to an alternate 2023? Are we to assume she did go back to 1999, did everything right, and then popped back to 2023, all without showing us?

Really good ending. I really liked the show.

Some of you have already said it - would've done without the alien thing - but since they haven't taken up that much space, I think it's okay.
We finally see the long-awaited present-day versions of Kaori and Meiko. The way they went to great lengths for Konoha to make their plan come true was really great.

The ending with Konoha and Mamarou-kun was really nice. How he has been waiting for her all these years - and of course the PC-98 is there again. He can't help it.😂

I like how the show has changed its style. At first I thought the whole series would be set in 1992 and the finale would be her returning to the present day. But that already happened in episode 3. Then an exciting back and forth between times, new world lines and we learn a lot about bishojou games, a bit reflexion of A.I. and a celebration of otaku culture.

I think the winning concept of the show was to stop doing something before it got boring.

I assume that because Konoha developed the first Bishoujou game with them in the past, they became so successful that they were able to expand into the USA and were offered interesting job offers there, like in the dystopian future last episodes - but without the side effect that the entire otaku culture in Akiba had to be wiped out, since Konoha developed a second bishoujou game for the competition through their last trip into the past (in today's episode). So she was able to exploit the best of both world lines.


Was 16Bit Sensation the best show ever? Definitely not.
Was it good entertainment to lure you in front of the TV every Wednesday in anticipation of what would happen next - definitely!

🎶"Nani wo seotte nannen ni naredo" 🎶was the catchiest intro of the whole season and Konoha is a bit of a crybaby at times - but it still quickly grows on you.Yeah, the ending is probably pretty final. A second season will probably remain a pipe dream forever. Nevertheless, I hope that the Alcohol Software team will meet us one day in an OVA or something similar.
The series definitely made you want to read the manga - although there seems to be a lot of other things going on there too. Konoha doesn't exist, the series takes place entirely in 1992, etc.. According to MAL, the manga has been running for 7 years - but I can only find 7 chapters so far😅

All in all I would rate this as a solid 8 / 10.
Would really recommend this, even if you never played a bishojou game.

Ending sequence was really nice. Also nice to hear the OP once more in the end.
🎶"Nani ga kibou de nan ni iratsukedo"🎶

Well time was still changed but not as badly as it was in the first alternate timeline.
Toya did the right thing by reporting that place tho.
Also the crampy owner of the company Konoha used to work for also seems to have been put in his place.

it was all good when it was about making games and changing the future, but it all went to shit when they started the UFO things. also it was never answered who the old lady who gave Konoha the games was. Still an 8/10 for me

The alien subplot in this show was the textbook definition of useless.
7/10

I feel the alien stuff and future changed to a darker timeline was bad and ruined the show, even if yeah i admit it makes for an interesting conversational and here is what's happening in 2023 currently (Hopefully minus the AI think tanks using humans...) but thankfully the future (or present technically) did get changed back mostly into what it used to be. Still, the plot changing on us like it did even if it was hinted at coming, still ended up killing my love and hype for the anime which is a real shame as i REALLY enjoyed it till Mamaru-kun went back in time, that's where the anime diverged and changed into something unrecognizable. I also hate they didn't give it 14 eps... so much corner cutting harmed the anime further because of that 14th ep not being given.

To name some, which includes unanswered questions for the anime... Not showing Toya in the final timeline or what her sitch is. Not showing Toya and Konoha making a game together thus promise not kept yet (Am sure in this new timeline they'll make a game together but, the Fin, aka End at the end of the credits says we'll never see it...) not having enough time they legit skipped Konoha going back in time with her new game... oh and, speaking of the new game, did they not list the credits for who MADE it? Because that, would need to be done (Omitting everyone's name besides Konoha and MAYBE Mamoru-kun) since it can't be Alcohol Soft that made it as it needs to compete with their 1st game Konoha made, yet it was still Alcohol Soft that made it. And lastly, perhaps THE BIGGEST MYSTERY OF THEM ALL which this ep very well might have ruled out what everyone thought was the case... WHO or WHAT was the old lady who GAVE Konoha these time traveling games that made this all possible and WHY did she give them to her!?!? Its never ever once answered and since the shop disappeared, its equally possible time travel was why the shop she was in disappeared or its possible it was something else entirely... This whole time, including thanks to the OP song and what we saw when the aliens came into the story proper, I thought it was the aliens, but, they were traveling through time (Presumably) to meet her... everything they said and did contradicts them being the old lady. And I am sure there's other unanswered stuff or corners cut/not shown but these are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Oh and, you can't even say for sure Konoha asking the aliens if she knew them and them not answering her was indication they were the old lady, as nothing conclusive there but yes that's about the only possible hint (along with them presumably also having time traveling power) that they were the old lady and even then, it could've been another in their species who was the old lady which is more likely I'd say but still, unanswered questions all the same...

I liked the show, but I have mixed feelings about the 2nd half. To end on a good note though, am glad the last ep wasn't as rushed as it coulda been and it was a sweet ending and, I believe the girl (white hair girl from the game) that we saw here was the one Konoha wanted to bring to life, glad she got to :)

When she opens the Comic Party box isn't she supposed to go to 1999? Why'd she go straight to an alternate 2023? Are we to assume she did go back to 1999, did everything right, and then popped back to 2023, all without showing us?