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sheersh said: Where was the f****ng kiss between it was in manga and I was waiting for it but the episode ended. :( I know right? Manga only adaptation. Overall, the difference of LN and Manga have been: - Rudeus, less perv and more likeable. - Eris, less tsundere brat and more likeable. It is not faithful, but who cares, i enjoyed this change in the manga. At this point manga had romance, but i guess it would piss-off the "i'm 14, this is deep and a hate romance eeeww" audience. |
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Wim said: I see, gods in anime seems to not understand what god means, oh well thanks for telling me this, I don't see this as a spoiler tbh more like a prequel knowledge one must know before stepping into the world of Mushoku Tensei.Kirito_online said: excuse my poor choice of words, I was only curious about the nature of her father considering her status. He's If you wish to know what happened here is the tl;dr version. As told in the Old Dragons Tale WN |
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| As it got pointed out by someone on Reddit, 30 seconds from the end of the episode in the first credit roll of the ED, there is 3 question marks left for the VA of Nanahoshi, not revealing who it was. Which obviously means that person has appeared before, thus they hid it. I'm sure many have an idea who it could be but this is basically confirmation that this person has appeared in a earlier episode. I like the fact they left an Easter Egg there to not make it easy to just look it up(unless you go looking for spoilers lol). |
dabdabgooseDec 9, 2021 3:48 AM
dabdabgoose said: I will judge all I want for someone having such shallow and meaningless goals. I mean it was the last thing he said in his last world too, Heck if I was in his position and a virgin. As a male I would probably think the same thing, hardly disgusting or skewed, what right do you have to judge a dead man. |
zyke said: Who said it was a goal though, sounds more like a regret to me.dabdabgoose said: I will judge all I want for someone having such shallow and meaningless goals. I mean it was the last thing he said in his last world too, Heck if I was in his position and a virgin. As a male I would probably think the same thing, hardly disgusting or skewed, what right do you have to judge a dead man. |
Kirito_online said: That's cos I left out the heavy stuffWim said: I see, gods in anime seems to not understand what god means, oh well thanks for telling me this, I don't see this as a spoiler tbh more like a prequel knowledge one must know before stepping into the world of Mushoku Tensei.He's If you wish to know what happened here is the tl;dr version. As told in the Old Dragons Tale WN There is only 1 actual god left if you want to be technical which is our shitstain that is Himogati. Orsted and Kishirika Kishirisu are technically demigods. You'll hear the term god often and not actually mean god. That is because of the power structure and the 5 generals of the original dragon god were all considered gods because of the power they possess. Especially Laplace. Technique God, Dragon God, Fighting God, Demon God, Death God, Sword God, and North God are what the 7 great powers are called. No one except Orsted none has god blood. Edit forgot Kishirika Kishirisu |
WimmyDec 10, 2021 3:22 PM
zyke said: dabdabgoose said: I will judge all I want for someone having such shallow and meaningless goals. I mean it was the last thing he said in his last world too, Heck if I was in his position and a virgin. As a male I would probably think the same thing, hardly disgusting or skewed, what right do you have to judge a dead man. I applaud Rudy for sticking to simple, achievable and relatable goals. I wonder what sanctimoniously lofty goals you have in mind? |
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Wim said: now that's more plausible.Kirito_online said: That's cos I left out the heavy stuffI see, gods in anime seems to not understand what god means, oh well thanks for telling me this, I don't see this as a spoiler tbh more like a prequel knowledge one must know before stepping into the world of Mushoku Tensei. There is only 1 actual god left if you want to be technical which is our shitstain that is Himogati. Orsted and Kishirika Kishirisu are technically demigods. You'll hear the term god often and not actually mean god. That is because of the power structure and the 5 generals of the original dragon god were all considered gods because of the power they possess. Especially Laplace. Technique God, Dragon God, Fighting God, Demon God, Death God, Sword God, and North God are what the 7 great powers are called. No one except Orsted none has god blood. |
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borderliner said: Nothing grand. Just living my life the way I want and to not disappoint myself and I intend to keep living that way. zyke said: I will judge all I want for someone having such shallow and meaningless goals. I applaud Rudy for sticking to simple, achievable and relatable goals. I wonder what sanctimoniously lofty goals you have in mind? |
zyke said: borderliner said: Nothing grand. Just living my life the way I want and to not disappoint myself and I intend to keep living that way. I applaud Rudy for sticking to simple, achievable and relatable goals. I wonder what sanctimoniously lofty goals you have in mind? So you want to live life your way but you deny others the right to live life their way. And living life your way involves always putting yourself in situations where you always get to feel good about yourself. That's even more sanctimonious than I'd imagined. Despite his faults Rudy is clearly a better person than you will ever aspire to be. |
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| A gripping episode.. Orsted appears to be the kind of guy who shoots first and asks questions later. Presumably he made a mistake about Rudeus; while he is connected to the Man-God (somehow) he is probably not the Man-God's Apostle, so he was not meant to die after all. Or, at least, that's why I think Orsted healed him. How on Earth did that masked girl deduce that? I guess because Rudeus was not afraid of Orsted or otherwise affected by his curses. It is the only variable I can think of. As for Rudeus all I can say is that he reached a very high level of stupidity in this episode. I fully realize that Rudeus' stupidity was a plot device for the writers to introduce Orsted in a dramatic way but the point still stands. Rudeus has not even disclosed to Ruijerd and Eris anything about the Man-God and yet he blew that whistle to a complete stranger who Ruijerd and Eris were terrified of with every fiber of their being and warned him not to speak to him at all. Rudeus completely ignored them, what they said and their petrified state because the plot needed him to almost die and be resurrected and to show us what a bad ass Orsted is. Sure, that makes perfect sense.. |
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borderliner said: Who said about denying anything. Everyone can live their lives the way they want and if they do so regardless what others think thats even better. That doesnt stop me from calling others fucking idiots if they live their lives to do something fucking retarded. zyke said: Nothing grand. Just living my life the way I want and to not disappoint myself and I intend to keep living that way. So you want to live life your way but you deny others the right to live life their way. And living life your way involves always putting yourself in situations where you always get to feel good about yourself. That's even more sanctimonious than I'd imagined. Despite his faults Rudy is clearly a better person than you will ever aspire to be. "And living life your way involves always putting yourself in situations where you always get to feel good about yourself." where the fuck did you even pull that one out? Learn to read before replying. |
Easybakeanimoans said: He can't do voiceless healing.why did rudeus not heal his lungs when he could? |
Easybakeanimoans said: why did rudeus not heal his lungs when he could? In Episode 18 when he was sick on the boat (the Roxy-focused episode this cour), he tried healing with an incantation but couldn't do so before throwing up. Guy can do voiceless magic for some attributes like water, earth, etc but he doesn't exactly understand how healing magic exactly works when it comes to manipulating mana for him to utilize it without reciting an incantation. So yeah, Rudeus while being able to fight Orsted somewhat even with his lungs in that dire state for a temporary period of time, couldn't speak and breathe properly so he couldn't cast any incantations to heal himself. |
| WHAT. THE FUCK. ? ??? ?? ??????$!$!+$+$-#;$!_ WWWWWHHAT. WHAT AN EPISODE. VERY INTENSE. MUCH SCARY. GOT GOOSEBUMPS. YES, EPISODE. GOOD. at lost for words where do i even begin i need to take a breather no like what the actual fuck that was so insane. i smiled once out of this whole 20 minutes and that was when eris was deemed ae a warrior by rujierd. all went downhill from there especially after meeting orsted. Ngl orsterd you are a looker my guy + tsuda kenjiro as his va? tew bad he's got curses. i was at the edge of my seat from start to finish after we met orsted, more than id usually react to horror movies that was INTENSE |
Riko65 said: That was the most smooth-brained episode in the entire series. I would say Rudeus was uncharacteristically stupid that episode, when Ruijerd and Eris were both frozen in fear, and the cow literally ran off the cliff in fear. Even if he himself was not affected by the curse that makes Orsted a being to be feared, ANY SENSIBLE PERSON WOULD HAVE PICKED UP ON THE SIGNS THAT THIS WAS A BEING NOT TO BE INTERACTED WITH. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I had to pause when Ruijerd and Orsted fought over how unbelievably dumb this whole situation actually was. I'm actually appalled at how bad this episode was, and I've lowered my score down a point because of it alone. God, was that extraordinarily bad. Rudy only talked to Orstead because he talked to them first and then left without acting hostile. So Rudy introduced himself and asked him if he knew anything about the mana disaster since he seemed strong. Ruijerd and Eris didn’t want him to interact with Orstead because of his overwhelming curse, not for any logical reason like he will kill them if you talk to him. Rudy would have been completely fine if he didn’t know the Human God. And on top of that (to Rudy’s knowledge), the Human God would have forewarned him if he was going to be in any mortal danger. Just so happens he can’t see anything involving the Dragon God. Like Rudy said after he almost died, it was just a really unlucky situation where everything lined up. |
Riko65 said: Blue_Maroon said: Rudy only talked to Orstead because he talked to them first and then left without acting hostile. So Rudy introduced himself and asked him if he knew anything about the mana disaster since he seemed strong. Ruijerd and Eris didn’t want him to interact with Orstead because of his overwhelming curse, not for any logical reason like he will kill them if you talk to him. Rudy would have been completely fine if he didn’t know the Human God. And on top of that (to Rudy’s knowledge), the Human God would have forewarned him if he was going to be in any mortal danger. Just so happens he can’t see anything involving the Dragon God. Like Rudy said after he almost died, it was just a really unlucky situation where everything lined up. The ox/cow thing literally ran off the cliff and committed suicide out of fear of this thing. Ruijerd and Eris were both frozen with fear, and Ruijerd told him not to move a muscle. They were both looking at Rudeus like he was the dumbest piece of lard in the universe. You would think Rudeus would have enough sense to understand that the strongest member of their party was warning him out of mortal peril, but no. As someone else said previously in this thread, you've got to progress the plot somehow, I guess... But god, what a dumb way of doing it. Regarding the overwhelming curse -- one doesn't simply get a curse like that for nothing. As for the Human God not warning him, that does NOT excuse Rudeus flat out ignoring his companions fear, and the ox/cow running off the cliff to kill itself. I've got to hard disagree with your last statement particularly -- it wasn't just an "unlucky situation where everything lined up," no. The author made Rudeus especially brainless this episode so that the plot could progress, simple as that. What a let-down. Rudy has always been a person that looks at situations logically rather than emotionally. Since he was not affected by the curse, he could not logically comprehend why they were so afraid of Orsted. He clearly saw them, walked past them, acknowledged them, and walked away even after their steer freaked out and killed itself. So, he decided to introduce himself respectfully and try to gain information. Keep in mind, this is not the first time he has gone against Ruijerd’s will for what he believed to be the smartest course of action (think in the forest when the adventurer died and in the animal kidnapping cellar). But the fact of the matter is that Rudy would have been completely fine talking to Orsted (and ignoring all the red flags) if he didn’t know who the Human God was. It seems like you are looking at it in retrospect instead of evaluating what actually went down. Rudy knew that Orsted was extremely strong. He took a logical risk that would have panned out if not for an abnormal factor that nobody could have foreseen coming. Everyone acted true to their characters and because of it we got some great action, character progression, and worldbuilding. That’s good writing. |
Riko65 said: It was a curse of fear, not real fear that didn't effect Rudeus.Blue_Maroon said: Rudy only talked to Orstead because he talked to them first and then left without acting hostile. So Rudy introduced himself and asked him if he knew anything about the mana disaster since he seemed strong. Ruijerd and Eris didn’t want him to interact with Orstead because of his overwhelming curse, not for any logical reason like he will kill them if you talk to him. Rudy would have been completely fine if he didn’t know the Human God. And on top of that (to Rudy’s knowledge), the Human God would have forewarned him if he was going to be in any mortal danger. Just so happens he can’t see anything involving the Dragon God. Like Rudy said after he almost died, it was just a really unlucky situation where everything lined up. The ox/cow thing literally ran off the cliff and committed suicide out of fear of this thing. Ruijerd and Eris were both frozen with fear, and Ruijerd told him not to move a muscle. They were both looking at Rudeus like he was the dumbest piece of lard in the universe. You would think Rudeus would have enough sense to understand that the strongest member of their party was warning him out of mortal peril, but no. As someone else said previously in this thread, you've got to progress the plot somehow, I guess... But god, what a dumb way of doing it. Regarding the overwhelming curse -- one doesn't simply get a curse like that for nothing. As for the Human God not warning him, that does NOT excuse Rudeus flat out ignoring his companions fear, and the ox/cow running off the cliff to kill itself. I've got to hard disagree with your last statement particularly -- it wasn't just an "unlucky situation where everything lined up," no. The author made Rudeus especially brainless this episode so that the plot could progress, simple as that. What a let-down. |
| Holy fuck another one of Eris and Ruijerd's combat and the choreography is amazing as always but this one gets better even with a bright night sky that looks stargazing. Eris will always be a warrior until the day it lasts <3 But Eris gotta be specific to where she wants Rudy to pinch or otherwise Rudy will be horny as per usual :v. Their adventure is very snowy this time and it's pretty chilly but like it like that. Dun. Dun. Dun. Orsted and Shizuka appeared D: Oh god how tf did they know their name except Rudy but Rudy sure knows how to bring a lot of trouble with his make/break planning and the fight has begun but Ruijerd knows how to react fast and damn that fight is going hella fast as sonic and never seen Ruijerd being beaten up this badly D: Not even close to winning for Eris too :( Damn Rudy really died like that, this feels like a game over :c and oh god another of the OG Rudy and Hitogami usual conversation xD Woah Rudy is still alive yay I almost cried because I thought he was dead and thank god Eris and Ruijerd are fine, also Eris and Rudy sweet hug is the cutest thing on earth. I wonder when will Rudy be able to increase his intelligent because he's sure seems brainless but then again, if that's how his characterization goes then that's fair enough. |
Riko65 said: He actually asked Ruijerd when he first saw him about if he was sent from him, but then shrugged it off, then after that it was never brought up by anyone else so there is no basis to say he was hiding it from someone who may know about him.Blue_Maroon said: Rudy has always been a person that looks at situations logically rather than emotionally. Since he was not affected by the curse, he could not logically comprehend why they were so afraid of Orsted. He clearly saw them, walked past them, acknowledged them, and walked away even after their steer freaked out and killed itself. So, he decided to introduce himself respectfully and try to gain information. Keep in mind, this is not the first time he has gone against Ruijerd’s will for what he believed to be the smartest course of action (think in the forest when the adventurer died and in the animal kidnapping cellar). But the fact of the matter is that Rudy would have been completely fine talking to Orsted (and ignoring all the red flags) if he didn’t know who the Human God was. It seems like you are looking at it in retrospect instead of evaluating what actually went down. Rudy knew that Orsted was extremely strong. He took a logical risk that would have panned out if not for an abnormal factor that nobody could have foreseen coming. Everyone acted true to their characters and because of it we got some great action, character progression, and worldbuilding. That’s good writing. Am I missing something? Not sure if I'm misremembering, but Rudeus never even told his own party about the Human God (and if he did, he was quite hesitant), so why would he feel no hesitation about stupidly exclaiming that yes, he sees the Human God in his dreams? There was ACTUALLY zero hesitation, LOL. He didn't stop to think about it at all. Unless I'm missing something, even barring the fact that he flat out ignored his companions fear like an imbecile, his readiness to tell this extremely powerful and fearful being about the Man God was actually extremely idiotic, and bad writing. |
Riko65 said: Blue_Maroon said: Rudy has always been a person that looks at situations logically rather than emotionally. Since he was not affected by the curse, he could not logically comprehend why they were so afraid of Orsted. He clearly saw them, walked past them, acknowledged them, and walked away even after their steer freaked out and killed itself. So, he decided to introduce himself respectfully and try to gain information. Keep in mind, this is not the first time he has gone against Ruijerd’s will for what he believed to be the smartest course of action (think in the forest when the adventurer died and in the animal kidnapping cellar). But the fact of the matter is that Rudy would have been completely fine talking to Orsted (and ignoring all the red flags) if he didn’t know who the Human God was. It seems like you are looking at it in retrospect instead of evaluating what actually went down. Rudy knew that Orsted was extremely strong. He took a logical risk that would have panned out if not for an abnormal factor that nobody could have foreseen coming. Everyone acted true to their characters and because of it we got some great action, character progression, and worldbuilding. That’s good writing. Am I missing something? Not sure if I'm misremembering, but Rudeus never even told his own party about the Human God (and if he did, he was quite hesitant), so why would he feel no hesitation about stupidly exclaiming that yes, he sees the Human God in his dreams? There was ACTUALLY zero hesitation, LOL. He didn't stop to think about it at all. Unless I'm missing something, even barring the fact that he flat out ignored his companions fear like an imbecile, his readiness to tell this extremely powerful and fearful being about the Man God was actually extremely idiotic, and bad writing. Like the reply above me said, he was never hiding it. He said at some point that the Human God seemed shifty so he didn’t want to mention him to his group yet. Tbh I don’t really agree with his logic, but that was the rationale. It actually makes the most sense that he would reveal that he talks to the Man God to an extremely powerful being because that might help him gain some more information about what is going on and who the Man God is. Not even Ruijerd knew who the Man God was, and he has lived for centuries, so Rudy jumped on the opportunity to learn about him. It wasn’t like the Man God told Rudy he had enemies and that Rudy shouldn’t talk to others about him. |
Khaifung said: Lol basically Rudeus just too weak and idiot that's all. Well, he did go up against the strongest being in that world there while he aint even that great in fighting to kill, and wasn't cursed unlike Eris and Ruijerd with being able to detect fear from him and when asked about ManGod, he didn't hide it since no one else knew about him so curiosity got there. So him looking weak aint a shocker at all, and his curiosity was valid even if not at a great time for his sake. |
| Rudeus is so dumb, he should be aware that since that “Man-God” knows about his past life, the fact that he knows and can see him should be kept secret. It was so annoying to see how happily Rudeus just went “Oh Yes! I know him!😃” Now this “Man-God” seems too suspicious. He must have something to do with the great Mana disaster. |
| WTF this episode was actually great xD really immersive for how threatening Orsted was and damn the fight got an impressive animation! I wonder why he healed Rudeus after Nanahoshi asked him, but most of it is very mysterious, same for Orsted relationship with the God or just the god himself anyway, still relieved that they didn't die, the scene between Eris and Rudeus was really emotional |
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| Yo episode was fire ngl. Such a simple episode, but it was better than the other drama that appeared in early episodes. I am actually looking forward to how this will play out. |
| Not sure if it's because it's been awhile but hella confused on how we led up to this---totally feels out of left field, but anyways... Damn Ruijerd was like putty compared to the Dragon God. Also always felt weird about this lowkey incest ship, but suddenly I understand the power of tsuns. Went from really hating Eris to appreciating her loud, spunky self. Like she really is just a child, but she carried pretty hard all things considered like she did atleast attempt to go against a god that she has all fear debuff from Maybe it's the lack of sudden fan service, but this episode was quite epic. |
| And here comes the second major plot ploint, interesting, so Man God is still a character in that world. My hypothesis is that this Orsted guy is the same as Rudy, having been reborn into this world after he died in his previous one and he was helped by Man God until something bad happened and that's probably related to what he told Rudy last time, to trust him in the future. Also amazing VA for Orsted, Kenjirou Tsuda is amazing. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Pretty sure we "know" Nanahoshi, but I can't figure out who she might be. After all this time Rudeus can't take a hint and read body language. Rather, he's too cocky for his own good. The 2 strongest people you know are scared stiff of a guy that passes you by not to mention your freakin' bull goes beserk and takes a header off the mountain, you turn and start questioning him. TBH, I truly dislike Rudeus. I know he's 11, but I don't care. This is an anime I like despite the mc. |
| Truly a great episode, it's so hard to watch anything else after watching this anime. |
| Omg. My jaw dropped. I was gasping!!!!! SO HARD. What a fucking episode!!!!! Holy shit. AND DONT HURT RUIJERD UWUUUU I would cry like Eris if any harm came to him. In his “final moments” when they were talking about curses there was a moment where Rudeus was glad that his trying to help Ruijerd meant something after all. That was so heartwrenching. Orsted, WHAT AN INTRODUCTION. Man this episode was so good. |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| So... I think there's a clear indication here. Just my theory but... |
| Rudeus calling out Orsted was definitely a dumb idea. I can understand why he would be curious but seeing Ruijerd so freaked out should've set off more alarm bells. Orsted really is insanely strong. Sounds like he can also see the future like man god? Maybe? |
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| Eris is a warrior now she deserves it though to be honest after all of her hard work even if she can be annoying at times. Rudy was just asking for trouble with the dragon god he could tell everyone was scared but still forced his hand by being too mouthy. The animation and the fight scenes were great i especially enjoyed the sparring session at the start of the episode. Orsted was a interesting character I wonder what was said that made him spare Rudy. I guess he doesn’t know anything about Rudy since s he’s a anomaly that wasn’t meant to be in this world. |
| Really fun episode that adds a lot of questions which will surely be expanded upon in the future. One thing that has bugged me this whole cour is that Rudeus really hasn't done much training / improvement for ages. I get that he has no one to study under but I feel like he has so much potential and he barely grasped any of it. So...hopefully this was a wake up call for him. |
| Holy shit what an episode. My mouth was wide open with shock right after the episode began. I'm kind of speechless about how amazing this episode was. We got a funny little scene in the start when Eris asked Rudy to pinch her and well he made good use of that opportunity, man doesn't hesitate. Orested dude was scary and god damn powerful to say the least, he destroyed Ruijerd like nothing. This episode was quite shocking and emotional as well. We meet man-god again and he explains some things like who Orested his and the curses on him and stuff, that was interesting. Rudeus thought he had died but Orested got his mind changed by Nanahoshi and he saved all three of them for some reason. Weird dude, first almost kills then heals. We can see how attached Rudy and Eris have become, when he gains consciousness back, he first hugs her and then we see Eris breaking down, scenes like that are not good for my kokoro. I dunno what's gonna happen next and am looking forward to it. This episode has stayed true to it's name, the episode name which everyone has to brace themselves for. Great episode man, I'm glad they didn't end the episode when we think that Rudy has died, that would have sucked ass for people watching this weekly. 5/5. This season is close to ending and it's gonna be difficult waiting for next season, I'm having a solid urge to read the LN's but my imagination won't suffice me at this point, this animation,cinematography, music choices, Seiyuu's, everything just top-notch, no one can go back to read the novels at this point, experiencing the story for the first time in this way is the superior way but it comes at a cost of painful waiting which I'm gonna endure coz I know it's gonna be worth it. |
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| Ruijerd: Rudeus dont move a muscle. Rudeus casually starts chit chatting with Orsted lol. Damn Orsted was scary.. |
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