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Sep 25, 2021 1:30 AM

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I am so MAD because this episode was so freaking good and they could have done all of this in Sotsu instead of doing 13 stupid episodes to explain things that could have been done in 3 of them. This is not how you do the answer arcs and we've got large proof of it. So, imagine how amazing it would have been if they did "fight" each other like that, confronting like that for all the season. It would have been such a pain, just like this episode was. I absolutely came to dislike Satoko during this season but I still couldn't help but empathise with her in this specific episode, her reasons make no sense but it shows that she truly feels this way & that alone for me is enough, that alone makes a character, even if I don't like them, I just wish this had happened sooner. Also how interesting is to see Hnayuu fight with Eua,, even if she might not really be Featherine or whatever, it's still so fascinating anyway. This episode was a stunning 5/5, too bad it was a great episode among so many mediocre ones.
Sep 25, 2021 1:39 AM

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Ah yes the:

"You should know how to study by high school"
and the
"I told you I don't like studying".

The conflict in this series was very stupid to begin with, the way Rika handled it despite being 100+ y.o. is just a massive letdown. How are we supposed to take this seriously?
Sep 25, 2021 2:16 AM

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One episode before the end, but I tell you I'm done with this shit.
I won't watch the end, I should have dropped it ten weeks ago.
I don't like how Sotsu turned out, but what is worse is the lack of substance, it's been so empty to watch Satoko winning all the time, there was nothing else.

Rika knows the truth now, but that doesn't help because Satoko is strong like a mercenary. The barrage of violence against Rika made feel sad and unwell.
Satoko being stronger in every timeline was strange, even when injured.

Some points I found silly in this episode.
-Satoko being strong af for throwing a heavy drum and hitting someone with it.
-Rika killed with a fork (seriously)
-Rika killed with a book
-Rika can fly, Satoko, too.
-Rika actually gave Satoko a serious injury, but it stopped bleeding after 10 seconds.
- all the jumping around made me feel dizzy, sure they wanted to show that both fought many times after the secret was lifted, but that was not necessary.

Hanyuu's struggle, succeeds shortly when breaking the chackles, but is again defeated the second later, what a joke. Do they make fun about the viewer like "look that fool things Hanyuu can do something to stop ".

This show has been just sick violence porn. It feels like a Mortal Kombat with Higurashi label on it. This remake, new story, parody gave me nothing, nothing at all. I will hate Satoko forever and Ryukishi and also everyone involved is a degenerate pig!

This has been the worst example of the anime media ever.
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Sep 25, 2021 2:19 AM

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To be honest, After watching sotsu I'm treating Originals as separate series. I maybe one of the minority but I liked Gou. But so far Sotsu has been so ridiculous and this episode was the worst of the bunch.
Sep 25, 2021 4:03 AM
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Nippa69 said:
I love how higurashi fans are hating this episode while umineko fans are enjoying the shit outta this

Best ep of sotsu by farr, I just hope all those umineko refernces pays off

Also Satoko and rika suddenly become tok powerfull because they aren't even human at this point, they're witches, witch of certainty lambdadelta and witch of miracles (confirmed) fredrica bernkestel


Both fan of Higurashi and Umineko, especially Umineko in its answer arcs.
It didn't prevent me to find this episode awful.
Sep 25, 2021 4:09 AM
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this episode confirmed how this season is an entire joke, maybe it's better than the other episodes because it was so stupid that it feels somehow amusing, but at least Satoko got what she deserved, her character has been murdered since the beginning anyways and it made me hate her even if I didn't intend to
now I'm rlly curious about the ending
Sep 25, 2021 4:13 AM
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We have been through 13 episodes of boring garbage that needs to spoonfeed everything to the audience treating us like idiots but episode 14 went so bad it's good . They literally gave up this was so over the top to the point it became an unintentional parody and I had a blast with it, it's literally the only episode I wasn't bored with and hope the last episode is like that as well.
Sep 25, 2021 4:54 AM
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As my grandpa once said: "That's why we should've drop the third bomb"
Sep 25, 2021 5:23 AM
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How to ruin the series make episode 14
Sep 25, 2021 7:27 AM

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They just went Dragon Ball outta nowhere. This is so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. At least they should've put this as the soundtrack:


Sep 25, 2021 9:26 AM

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good job ryukishi,
can't wait for the "battler is actually satoshi cryogenically preserved" reveal,
keep the good work mans (y)
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Sep 25, 2021 11:04 AM
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everytime they copy dragon ball z means after jumping the shark


no problem, this series is shit from the first episode of gou, now complete the mess.

Higurashi ends up with Kai
Sep 25, 2021 11:54 AM
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Terrible
The direction just got way worst
The script became stupid
And the gore scenes are completely out of reality (even more than before)

I realy liked higurashi until this episode, and I think this is one of the worst anime episodes that i'll watch in my intire life.
Sep 25, 2021 12:31 PM

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Shounen battle of love and anger, Rika vs satoko
But srsly i teared up a bit of satoko would get erased
Do the 2 of them really need to be in the same school and not just meet up when there's free time, if it would cost someone's life? I remember satoko wanted to be in hinamizawa even without rika since they can still communicate in their vacation (i might've remembered is wrong tho)

I was really excited for this ep but got disappointed a bit (am an umineko fan and heard that umineko fans loved the ep but sorry..i didn't)
MurukoHiiragiSep 25, 2021 12:44 PM
"Everyone fails sometimes
But dreams won't fade, dreams won't fade
Let's chase them as many times as it takes and don't lose
Because today after all is today and once you wake up, it'll be a new morning"

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Sep 25, 2021 3:22 PM

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I don't want you to go to that shitty school that barely appears on this anime, so I'll kill you dozens and dozens of times in the most retard manners until you know I want to live with you happily in our little farm, but I'll stab you more and more times, Vegeta, for the sake of nonsense edginess! Fuck the plot, look at me with this gun I took out from fucking nowhere!!

I've resumed Sotsu for you.
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Sep 25, 2021 6:32 PM

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Fenryr19 said:
They just went Dragon Ball outta nowhere. This is so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. At least they should've put this as the soundtrack:


Thanks for the Idea. Tried doing it.

Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids.
Sep 25, 2021 7:33 PM

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It's so, so disappointing that the major cliffhanger from Season 1 amounted to just Satoko actually shooting her in the head the next second.
Sep 25, 2021 8:19 PM

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This was just absurd and crazy. Some of it barely made any sense to me with the constant location shifting. I thought Rika stabbed Satoko successfully with Hanryuu's sword but next moment they were in the scrapyard for some reason and Satoko pulled the rest of the sword out of nowhere.

At least I saw Rika getting some good slugs at Satoko, at least there was something satisfying.

The fight scenes are actually pretty nice if you remove the context from them. xD

I just expect more nonsense in the finale.
Sep 25, 2021 8:32 PM

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MurukoHiiragi said:

I was really excited for this ep but got disappointed a bit (am an umineko fan and heard that umineko fans loved the ep but sorry..i didn't)
No we didnt .

Just because there are two of them going around trying to convince everyone that thsi was good in any way doesnt mean the rest of us have lost our fucking marbles.

Yet.
Sep 25, 2021 9:11 PM

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"It is all because you dreamed of going to Saint Lucia!"

Satoko, couldn't it be that you have been overreacting a bit the whole time? Put down the frying pan, the fork and take a deep breath.

"Because I hate studying! I hate it'"

Ladies and gentlemen that was the whole reason for shit hitting the fan. Because Satoko hates studying. Isn't that beautiful? What will happen when she has to go to work every morning in the future and she hates that too? Will she blow up the whole world?

...

PS. I have reached the end of the episode and as it has turned out they are planning to do that. So in the end they have become semigods and are planning to make the world anew because Satoko did't like doing homework and shit. I guess there is no one high-schooler who doesn't sympatize with them.
IshitatesoSep 25, 2021 9:47 PM
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Sep 26, 2021 12:53 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
It's so, so disappointing that the major cliffhanger from Season 1 amounted to just Satoko actually shooting her in the head the next second.


At least the wait was only from late January to late September.

MAL only had to stand still with collective bated breath for 8 months.
Sep 26, 2021 1:40 AM
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I'm with all that say this is the
best episode of the season, it's pure gold.
Sep 26, 2021 1:44 AM
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I needed this to happen so bad
Sep 26, 2021 3:18 AM

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MurukoHiiragi said:

I was really excited for this ep but got disappointed a bit (am an umineko fan and heard that umineko fans loved the ep but sorry..i didn't)

No, I did not like it at all.
Sotsu is getting more self-aware of how shitty it is.


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Sep 26, 2021 6:22 AM

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This was so bad dude. I didn't even know Hinamizawa had sharks, but they have been jumped over.

The reveal was ass. There was no "ohhh so thats why" moment. No satisfying connection of threads that we viewers missed. It was literally a fucking bear and a random guess, that's it.

The constant fights in different scenarios can be kinda cool in a way, except for the fact that they make no sense. Are they just visual candy? How did Rika / Satoko get to high school while knowing the truth for all that time? Realistically it should have all been fights in their own little shack / at the river after awakening.

Also, did we forget that if Satoko dies even once before Rika, she loses? You going to tell me that in all those 10+ loops, Rika always died first? With how much is at stake, I'm surprised Satoko (who has no more superpowers or physical strength than Rika) always pulled it off.

In one of the fragments Satoko got cut by the onigiri whatever sword and bled profusely - it didn't matter AT ALL lol.

Then in the ultimate twist, they gained DBZ powers and started fighting over the bridge.

I legit laughed out loud at many points during this episode, and that is NOT something that you want your viewer to be doing at the climax of your show. My favorite one of those was when Satoko threw the fridge to Rika and then it cuts out to the fridge door opening and Rika is inside lmao, straight out of a cartoon.

Edit: and how could I forget that ryukishi nonchalantly tosses in front of the viewer that this WHOLE FUCKING SERIES EXISTS BECAUSE OF A CHILDISH DISPUTE LMAO. "I didn't want you to go to that school", "you never paid attention to me!",

"I HATE STUDYING"

HAHAHA
InfatuateSep 26, 2021 6:26 AM

I don't watch as much anime as before...
Sep 26, 2021 9:37 AM
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hiow this fighting will resolve in 1 ep is unrealistic, now some dbz shit too lol
Sep 26, 2021 10:31 AM

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evangelionfan said:
hiow this fighting will resolve in 1 ep is unrealistic, now some dbz shit too lol


The main conflict here is Satoko not wanting to study, and her being jealous of Rika being with other girls.

Its a shallow and stupid conflict. If they ease up and talk to each other for two minutes this entire mess can be resolved.
Sep 26, 2021 10:36 AM

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Im wondering, since when did Satoko become this dependant and attached to Rika?

It wasnt like this in the OG. They were close friends yes, but Rika was more emotionally dependant on Satoko than the other way around

Maybe its just me, but the OG Satoko would have been happy watching Rika be happy. Satoko may have a childish personality, but the VN (more of the console arcs) makes sense of her being very emotionally intelligent. Even more than Rika and the club in some acpects.

Specially her interactions with Takano in Miotsukushi.

That Satoko, the Satoko who was capable of understanding others, the Satoko who understood how much of a positive effect the club had on her, the Satoko who could feel.empathy for others,
... Would have never looped like this.


(F in the chat for how Mio in one screen did more for Satoko's personality than Sotsu gou did in two seasons.)

I wont go into walls of text, but its fully possible to write a 'evil' Satoko more beliveably. Using her past and connection with the club as a set up. Of course Sotsugou never set such a thing up.

The Manga still.hasnt gone into St Lucia, so I hope.the.Mangaka will.handle it better.
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"If you hated the DBZ fight you clearly never read Umineko"

Let me tell you something: Higurashi is NOT Umineko. The plot is different, the script is written in a totally different way. That's why a DBZ fight doesn't fit. That's not even the worse problem for me, the problem is that the entire conversation during said fight, after all that happened (like Satoko literally killing all her friends), is a conversation about STUDYING. Satoko saying while she tries to kill Rika "I HATE STUDYING".

Who writes this shit? This show is garbage, and I liked Gou very much. Disappointing af
Sep 26, 2021 10:54 AM

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What Path should Rikka take? and why was Satako after all that killing willing to just die off? lolz either way.... yea their friendship can' go on. And if it does go on how will they compromise and how can they even see the light in the other? but yea they just need to calm the fuck down and go their own paths lolz.

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Sep 26, 2021 11:35 AM

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damn dat child fork is best murder weapon.

also the Yuri get's stronger and stronger between this two.

such romance...

also Satokos old enemy chair-kun is back.

and the DBZ fight at the end.


what the heck is going on?
Sep 26, 2021 12:16 PM
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not gonna lie watched the fight scene with John Williams Duel of fates its was awsome haha
Sep 26, 2021 12:28 PM

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So the whole scene a few episodes back where Satoko "split" was pointless? Because this doesn't seem like red-eyed evil Satoko if she's willing to give up in the end.
Sep 26, 2021 1:35 PM

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Gar_Logan said:
So the whole scene a few episodes back where Satoko "split" was pointless? Because this doesn't seem like red-eyed evil Satoko if she's willing to give up in the end.


Let's be real, this entire season has been pointless.
Sep 26, 2021 1:42 PM
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Gar_Logan said:
So the whole scene a few episodes back where Satoko "split" was pointless? Because this doesn't seem like red-eyed evil Satoko if she's willing to give up in the end.

Sorry this part happened a whole few episodes ago and I legit forgot it even happened. Maybe they should've recapped it right before the fight to remind us.
Sep 26, 2021 2:09 PM

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Gar_Logan said:
So the whole scene a few episodes back where Satoko "split" was pointless? Because this doesn't seem like red-eyed evil Satoko if she's willing to give up in the end.


The scene exists to give an explanation to why Satoko is so bloodthirsty (it doesnt really work)

Different aspects of a person show up as seperate beings in the Meta world. This is probably what happened in Matsuri when Rika talked with Bernkastel.

The two aspects of Satoko's personality duked it out and red eyes won. Meaning Satoko decided to throw all her regrets away and go all out against Rika and her friends.

This scene should have happened before Onikashi. Because why would Satokos regrets show up when she was killing teppei instead of You know .... Driving her friends insane?
Sep 26, 2021 2:13 PM

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Am I watching Higurashi right now or an episode of Kill La Kill. 😂
Sep 26, 2021 2:52 PM

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We went from "I hate Math" to SATOKO GOING ULTRA INSTINCT.

What the hell did I just watched?
Sep 26, 2021 3:00 PM
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Chargecoulomb said:
Maybe its just me, but the OG Satoko would have been happy watching Rika be happy. Satoko may have a childish personality, but the VN (more of the console arcs) makes sense of her being very emotionally intelligent. Even more than Rika and the club in some acpects.

Specially her interactions with Takano in Miotsukushi.

That Satoko, the Satoko who was capable of understanding others, the Satoko who understood how much of a positive effect the club had on her, the Satoko who could feel.empathy for others,
... Would have never looped like this.


(F in the chat for how Mio in one screen did more for Satoko's personality than Sotsu gou did in two seasons.)


I think you hit the nail on the head on why I hated new higu so much even as an anime only fan. If they made the characters compelling, I think I could live with the recaps, battles, and all.

I'm so confused. What are the chances gou/sotsu is directly from r07 himself? The blurb above is excellent characterization but at the same time I can't help but draw parallels from sotsu to some of the worst and repetitive parts of umineko like erika. Although my memory is hazy as its been over a decade for me.

Theres no way he would stay silent if he didn't sign off on this when even the mangaka is distancing from sotsu?
Sep 26, 2021 4:12 PM

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Chargecoulomb said:
Im wondering, since when did Satoko become this dependant and attached to Rika?

It wasnt like this in the OG. They were close friends yes, but Rika was more emotionally dependant on Satoko than the other way around

Maybe its just me, but the OG Satoko would have been happy watching Rika be happy. Satoko may have a childish personality, but the VN (more of the console arcs) makes sense of her being very emotionally intelligent. Even more than Rika and the club in some acpects.

Specially her interactions with Takano in Miotsukushi.

That Satoko, the Satoko who was capable of understanding others, the Satoko who understood how much of a positive effect the club had on her, the Satoko who could feel.empathy for others,
... Would have never looped like this.


(F in the chat for how Mio in one screen did more for Satoko's personality than Sotsu gou did in two seasons.)

I wont go into walls of text, but its fully possible to write a 'evil' Satoko more beliveably. Using her past and connection with the club as a set up. Of course Sotsugou never set such a thing up.

The Manga still.hasnt gone into St Lucia, so I hope.the.Mangaka will.handle it better.
I remember someone made the argument that Satoko's change is believable and in-character using that very scene from VN and in a way, I could see their point. The problem is that is the core issue is so fundamentally stupid and we ended up in a nonsensical arguing "I HATE STUDYING1!!11!!!1" from Satoko. Like, no, that doesn't make sense.

Satoko, out of all people, would reach out to Rika or any other club members if she ever felt any trouble. If anything, she would definitely do it within the first week of St. Lucia that she couldn't keep up with the study. The fact that it went for like a year or so is ridiculous. And let's not talk about how OOC Rika is during that whole time.

As you said, they could have written a more plausible route of how she went "evil" instead of whatever this is, but we're not allowed to have that, unfortunately. Maybe the manga will handle it better, but I'm not holding my breath for that either.
Sep 26, 2021 4:13 PM

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kactaplb said:
Theres no way he would stay silent if he didn't sign off on this when even the mangaka is distancing from sotsu?


Unless he is under a gag order-type contractual obligation the way that some original creators sometimes are.
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WatchTillTandava said:
kactaplb said:
Theres no way he would stay silent if he didn't sign off on this when even the mangaka is distancing from sotsu?


Unless he is under a gag order-type contractual obligation the way that some original creators sometimes are.

From what I've seen they don't really do stuff like that in Japan at all. It's all an honor system, they can say whatever they want about whatever in the anime industry. The backlash they may or may not receive from it like being blacklisted however are the actual consequences.

Really at most you'd just rub people the wrong way so, in R07's case if FOR EXAMPLE he wanted to backtrack (or pass the buck) any of Gou/Sotsu he'd just piss off Passione and their affiliates.
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Fenryr19 said:
They just went Dragon Ball outta nowhere. This is so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. At least they should've put this as the soundtrack:


Thanks for the Idea. Tried doing it.


LOOOOOOL

GOOD JOB, BRO
Sep 26, 2021 11:46 PM

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Gou > Sotsu and that's saying a lot.

Thank god the manga is deviating from this holy shit.

ok I let it pile up and binged everything. Damn. The themes are much better than the execution for sure, I just can't believe it's entirely R07's doing?? I don't see him in this, not really. I can see him doing it but not like this. My biggest beef is how they handled Mion's arc. This is so bad it's good but I'm not proud of it. No emotional catharsis....
Sep 27, 2021 12:34 AM

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I liked it, but... come on... this isn't Higurashi anymore.

This is a cartoon site, you clown. Elitism in general is cringe enough already. Let people enjoy stuff.
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Sep 27, 2021 12:48 AM
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There won't be any previews. Because:
"We decided not to give any previews, so you could get the biggest amount of pleasure. Pleaze wait for Thursday"
Lmao, wtf is gonna happen?

Edit. Here's the twit https://twitter.com/higu_anime/status/1442323110192050179
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Si1verR0se said:
There won't be any previews. Because:
"We decided not to give any previews, so you could get the biggest amount of pleasure. Pleaze wait for Thursday"
Lmao, wtf is gonna happen?


...Pleasure.

I dont like Passiones idea of Pleasure. We already got the leakers ending, but something about the way they worded it with 'everyones gonna be happy lucky dochi' is concerning.
Kinda makes me feel nervous.
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Chargecoulomb said:
Si1verR0se said:
There won't be any previews. Because:
"We decided not to give any previews, so you could get the biggest amount of pleasure. Pleaze wait for Thursday"
Lmao, wtf is gonna happen?


...Pleasure.

I dont like Passiones idea of Pleasure. We already got the leakers ending, but something about the way they worded it with 'everyones gonna be happy lucky dochi' is concerning.
Kinda makes me feel nervous.


Also:https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1442330214403493891
They saying that "It'll be LA GRANDE FINALE", but after Gou I can't trust them anymore
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Well. No third season then. Looks like leaker was wrong.about more Higu in 2022

2022 Higu is not Sotsu. Might be a Mei anime or something.

Leaker said that in response to Battler fans, so we MIGHT get an Umineko adaptation in 2022. Please dont give it to Passione Ryu.

Edit - Leaker didnt know jack shit about WTC, so I doubt he knows who Battler is. Dont get your hopes up / dissapointed Umineko fans.
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At this point a Mei anime would at least feel fresh. Not to mention the two (three?) new manga coming up. The amount of Higurashi content is truly getting ridiculous over the years (for jp fans at least)... and I'd probably fall for all of it if I could lol.
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