WutIsDis said: I think this statement isn't wrong. A good chunk of the anime fandom are teenagers. And a lot of anime are shounen or influenced by shounen elements. If anime isn't for kids, then that would mean that majority of anime that are produced are seinen and mature which is clearly not true. A more appropriate term would be "Anime is for teens" but teens are technically kids so.... Sure there are very mature anime (a good example is Monster), but I don't get why fans try their hardest to prove that anime is not for kids. I mean yes and no. I'd say the majority of animes are for teens. But you also have a very good chunk of animes that are clearly targeting an older demographic (i.e seinen/josei). I think the problem with this statement is that you're blanketing a too broad of a term underneath a very specific statement. It would be like me saying "Movies are for kids". And then I would present that most movies coming out are superhero movies. But as we all know, there are movies that are clearly intended for adults. Anime inherently isn't for kids. Because anime is just a specific way to visualize a story. What that story is can be for every conceivable age. The reason most animes are catered towards teens though is because it's the most popular demographic when it comes to consuming anime. And thus if you want to make a successful anime, it's often best to tap into that specific demographic. But it isn't a requirement for anime. I'm also a bit confused exactly how you interpret the statement "anime is for kids". Because you say something like: WutIsDis said: Okay. So if Monster is not for kids. And Monster is an anime. Then how do you figure that "anime is for kids". Sure there are very mature anime (a good example is Monster), but I don't get why fans try their hardest to prove that anime is not for kids |
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| anime is Japanese cartoon and cartoon is for kids so anime is for kids wtf |
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| Anime is for everyone* That's why demographics exist, and now many people that watches it are teens or young adults but since the times are a'changing, cartoon are not only for kids (Bojack Horseman is the example of how a cartoon can be much better than a real people show), and anime as well is not for children, is for everyone that wants to watch it. |
| Yeah....I grew out of the "cartoons are for kids" mindset a while ago, and by that I mean I never thought that way to begin with. Usually the pattern seems to be the older you get, the more you think animation is just for kids. I've been the exact opposite in that the older I got the more I realized thats an outdated mindset. |
FanofActionAug 4, 2021 11:07 AM
| kodomo is for kids, shounen for teenagers, teenagers=/kids, anime is not only for kids and is not only for adults, enjoy watching it, greetings |
wazzupdog said: I said proper adult, not just adult. Juralumin said: Anime is for kids, I have not yet found a proper adult saying I like K-ON. Really??? I've met loads of adults that like k-on. |
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| Teenagers aren't kids or adults. They are in the middle. Anime is for everyone but its mostly targeted to teens and young adults. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
Avicebrons said: WutIsDis said: I think this statement isn't wrong. A good chunk of the anime fandom are teenagers. And a lot of anime are shounen or influenced by shounen elements. If anime isn't for kids, then that would mean that majority of anime that are produced are seinen and mature which is clearly not true. A more appropriate term would be "Anime is for teens" but teens are technically kids so.... Sure there are very mature anime (a good example is Monster), but I don't get why fans try their hardest to prove that anime is not for kids. I mean yes and no. I'd say the majority of animes are for teens. But you also have a very good chunk of animes that are clearly targeting an older demographic (i.e seinen/josei). I think the problem with this statement is that you're blanketing a too broad of a term underneath a very specific statement. It would be like me saying "Movies are for kids". And then I would present that most movies coming out are superhero movies. But as we all know, there are movies that are clearly intended for adults. Anime inherently isn't for kids. Because anime is just a specific way to visualize a story. What that story is can be for every conceivable age. The reason most animes are catered towards teens though is because it's the most popular demographic when it comes to consuming anime. And thus if you want to make a successful anime, it's often best to tap into that specific demographic. But it isn't a requirement for anime. I'm also a bit confused exactly how you interpret the statement "anime is for kids". Because you say something like: WutIsDis said: Okay. So if Monster is not for kids. And Monster is an anime. Then how do you figure that "anime is for kids". Sure there are very mature anime (a good example is Monster), but I don't get why fans try their hardest to prove that anime is not for kids The title is not what I want to say. My intent wasn't that "anime is for kids" but "most anime is for kids." I used it as a title since it is a very common dialogue which is thrown around the internet. I think that should clear the doubt. And that last line... yeah that doesn't make sense to me either. I think I forgot to add extra lines in their. I was trying to say that "Sure their are mature anime but they are in the minority. " And don't think that I don't like anime or anything. I still watch Tom and jerry (I actually appreciate it more now than I did then). And I will watch anime even if I become old. But my problem is that anime fandoms (AOT for example) say that anime is not for kids (AOT has a lot of gore). But then the same fandom acts in the most childish way possible. |
WutIsDisAug 4, 2021 12:12 PM
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| I would not say that Emma: A Victorian Romance or Honey & Clover is for kids/teens only ,they seem to appeal to females, maybe at least young women. Anime is not like most American cartoons which is primarily for kids. Anime series like Food Wars should have a broad based appeal too, I would not say that series like Food Wars or To Love Ru are geared too much to kids either, maybe young adults to an extent. |
| I agree, everyone here is just a bunch of weirdos. go have sex instead.... |
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WutIsDis said: But my problem is that anime fandoms (AOT for example) say that anime is not for kids (AOT has a lot of gore) Ironically it is quite literally aimed for kids. It's a shounen, published in a shounen magazine. Literally the same type of magazine I used to subscribe to when I was ~10 years old. But that doesn't mean shounens can't be enjoyed outside its target demographic. And most people also seem to think that just because something is aimed at kids means that it can't have mature themes. Which is just objectively untrue. |
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| Actually there entire demographic of manga called kodomo. there is a kids tag too https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/15/Kids total no of anime in kids section surpasses shonen, seinen josei and shojo (3 times of shonen anime) I would say watch whatever u enjoy doesn't matter who its aimed. If people are watching to feel mature then clearly people choose the wrong medium for the purpose |
AdampkAug 4, 2021 1:47 PM
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| That couldn't be further from the truth, but it's ok to be wrong. |
| Depends on how you look at it. If you are looking at the tags that read shounen, seinen, josei and shoujo, then yes. More than half are in that category, but there are reasons for that. 1. Adults generally have less time to watch anime which makes it unprofitable to make them. At the very least in comparison to kids anime. I know atleast I did not have critical thinking activated watching TV when I was a kid. 2. Adults that do watch anime might want something soothing, uncomplicated to watch after work. From what I've seen this genre is more found in the kids section. There are of course exceptions. 3. Some adults want to be younger than they are, be it subconscious or not. Anime have rather easy entry if you want to see what the kids anime is about. And for 20 minutes you can feel like you are younger, or some nostalgia. Not nostalgia you get from wathing old games and anime, but also the nostalgia of watching anime when you were young and looking forward to how "the hero/heroine makes friends with their rival" or whatever you were into or watching. That being said, all these theories are theories. The last one is not excellently explaned and might be a wrong from the get go. But this should be an adequite explanation for what I believe is the wrong perception of "Anime is for kids". I believe everyone can watch without being discriminated because they don't fit the mental generalization you and I have of others. It don't affect neither you nor me. Any comments on this? |
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Avicebrons said: .WutIsDis said: But my problem is that anime fandoms (AOT for example) say that anime is not for kids (AOT has a lot of gore) Ironically it is quite literally aimed for kids. It's a shounen, published in a shounen magazine. Literally the same type of magazine I used to subscribe to when I was ~10 years old. But that doesn't mean shounens can't be enjoyed outside its target demographic. And most people also seem to think that just because something is aimed at kids means that it can't have mature themes. Which is just objectively untrue. Compared to animated adaptations, comics magazines have lower age rating for same content. At least 3 years lower. Image, movement and sound make it far more interactive and violent. Some of those anime broadcast or shown on video in my region were not suitable for 6-8 year olds yet they were promoted also for that age group.  |
| I guess if you ignore all the anime that aren't made specifically for kids I guess all anime is really made for kids huh. I never thought of it like that before. |
| anime is for the viewers, be them kids, teen, mature or mentally insane people |
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wazzupdog said: Juralumin said: Anime is for kids, I have not yet found a proper adult saying I like K-ON. Really??? I've met loads of adults that like k-on. @Juralumin I'm in my thirties. I have a job. A house. Responsibilities. Relationships. I've fought men. I've won and lost fights, women, money, arguments and friends. Pretty much all the trappings of adulthood. I like K-On! Some people grow up and lose touch with their inner child. I guess I never did. The distinction is that as a kid you can't help but be a kid, whereas as an adult it's a conscious connection with your past that you maintain. It can be lost if you don't nurture it. |
CallMeHootAug 4, 2021 2:06 PM
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petran79 said: Avicebrons said: .Ironically it is quite literally aimed for kids. It's a shounen, published in a shounen magazine. Literally the same type of magazine I used to subscribe to when I was ~10 years old. But that doesn't mean shounens can't be enjoyed outside its target demographic. And most people also seem to think that just because something is aimed at kids means that it can't have mature themes. Which is just objectively untrue. Compared to animated adaptations, comics magazines have lower age rating for same content. At least 3 years lower. Image, movement and sound make it far more interactive and violent. Some of those anime broadcast or shown on video in my region were not suitable for 6-8 year olds yet they were promoted also for that age group. First of all, where are you getting that from? Because you could also make a case for the opposite being true. TV animes tends to be quite censored in comparison to their manga counterpart, in which it's more explicit. And second of all, I'm not sure I see what point you're making. Cause even if it's "at least 3 years lower" (which I don't agree with), then it would still be aimed at kids regardless. |
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| Really, most anime is for teenagers. These "adult" anime (most example is Monster) is more consumed by teenagers than adults, that's a fact. From my point of view, basically "doesn't exist" adult and adult anime. - If it were a topic about children's anime, I would answer that most children's anime is superior to teenager anime. |
| If you're an adult you should exclusively watch adult entertainment. Be mature and stop eating candy. You've aged and only deserve to live a life of eating cabbage and watching pornography. |
| There's no need for all this tension. |
| You are very wrong my boi. There is no where written that anime is specifically towards kids and teens. Of course the shows target specific age of audience but it can be watched by anyone. There are lots of anime who are mature without being edgy. Take Usagi drop for a example. This anime deals with some mature issues like parenthood . If you think mature means blood and boobs then you are not mature enough to understand the fact that anime is for everyone |
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PeppermintHearts said: I would not say that Emma: A Victorian Romance or Honey & Clover is for kids/teens only. Emma isn't for kids anyway, but the anime is rated for all ages. Even though it's rated for all ages, a child probably wouldn't like it. |
| So are Disney animated movies, but teens and adults are perfectly capable of enjoying them as well. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
Juralumin said: please define 'proper' adult first. because, what does 'proper' even mean in this context?Anime is for kids, I have not yet found a proper adult saying I like K-ON. |
| Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no |
| While i kinda understand your point, that statement is still very stupid. |
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_Maneki-Neko_ said: CallMeHoot said: @Juralumin I'm in my thirties. I have a job. A house. Responsibilities. Relationships. I've fought men. I've won and lost fights, women, money, arguments and friends. Pretty much all the trappings of adulthood. I like K-On! Some people grow up and lose touch with their inner child. I guess I never did. The distinction is that as a kid you can't help but be a kid, whereas as an adult it's a conscious connection with your past that you maintain. It can be lost if you don't nurture it. It sounds like trolling, you don't have to explain yourself for liking K-on 😅 But anyway, let's try to take it serious: what is a "proper adult" anyway? Ofc someone, who doesn't leech on others for their whole life, but saying "proper adult" sounds so ... someone, who really wants to fulfill all expectations of society, because they have to. I have a job (even if part-time, but I'm very happy with that atm), study, friends and a possible future girlfriend too and I'm paying rent, all because I want to, but I don't like to fulfill expectations of society towards adults. If I would, I must give up on a lot of things that make me an individual and a lot of things that bring me joy. You make an interesting point, although I would have phrased it a little differently. There's a tendency among the young to view societies expectations of them as an affront or an assault on their individuality, but that's not the case. Responsibility brings meaning to life. Without taking responsibility for anything a person would find themselves to be adrift before long. Down that path lies nihilism and all that goes with it. I agree with your point that the responsiblity and societal expectation of an adult is to, at the very least, try not to be a burden on the society to which you belong. But, there are times when you may be. That's what the idea of society is all about. You contribute when you are strong, so that society can look after you when you are weak. Also, there's nothing wrong with fulfilling societies expectations of you. You can do that, find meaning in your life AND still be a unique individual. I'm curious as to what you think you'd have to give up to do that? But man, we got pretty deep just to say "I like K-On!". Lol. Thanks for the nice reply :) Dionkeykong said: What you meant to say was, in all probability, that adults for the last 15 years or so are raised to be fragile...Like kids are..That's why we can't have nice things anymore..Imagine anime like Elfen Lied being produced today..Not a fucking chance in hell..Goblin Slayer had a "provocative" first ep and all the fruitcakes had seizures. Not very elegant, but there's a grain of truth to this. People are too sensitive these days. Elfen Lied was shit, though. |
CallMeHootAug 4, 2021 2:46 PM
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| Anime is a medium with a lot of variety so i would say that its for everyone but most of the things produced are aimed towards a teenager demographic, i heard somewhere that there are also a great number of more mature manga but they don't recieve as much adaptations as things aimed toward teenagers but i don't remeber where i heard this so take this with a grain of salt |
_Maneki-Neko_ said: CallMeHoot said: You make an interesting point, although I would have phrased it a little differently. There's a tendency among the young to view societies expectations of them as an affront or an assault on their individuality, but that's not the case. Responsibility brings meaning to life. Without taking responsibility for anything a person would find themselves to be adrift before long. Down that path lies nihilism and all that goes with it. I agree with your point that the responsiblity and societal expectation of an adult is to, at the very least, try not to be a burden on the society to which you belong. But, there are times when you may be. That's what the idea of society is all about. You contribute when you are strong, so that society can look after you when you are weak. Also, there's nothing wrong with fulfilling societies expectations of you. You can do that, find meaning in your life AND still be a unique individual. I'm curious as to what you think you'd have to give up to do that? But man, we got pretty deep just to say "I like K-On!". Lol. Thanks for the nice reply :) You're welcome! Yes, I agree on this. Unfortunately I had to take some money from the state when I was unemployed and needed psychiatric help, but I'm really not proud of this either and I always try to care for myself, when I'm able to. Also Iike some forms of responsibility, just not what society expects of adults like owning a house, a car, you must have a couple of kids and a job with a high salary, even tho you don't like that type of job. I just want to live from it and like what I do and I don't need a car either, because I live in the middle of a metropolis. Still, lots of people view it as a status symbol that is a must have to count as a respectable adult, not as a tool for transportation. Some people also view their amount of sex or relationship partners as status symbol and part of being an adult or being mature, but people aren't tools to raise self-confidence or for showing off in front of others. When I'm with someone, I absolutely mean it, but I often experienced it in high school and university that people made of me or alienating me in some way, because I'm "a late bloomer" (had my first real boyfriend and sex with like 22) and I said I'm rather demisexual, and they gave me the impression I'm not a "real adult". These are things I thought about in my original post. 😅 I see what you mean :) Thanks for the explanation. I was a "late bloomer" as well, but that was partially because I am very, very kinky and struggled to find someone I could connect with on a physical level who enjoyed the same things I did sexually. I've experienced what you mention as well though. Some people I know think that if you're single or if you don't have kids by a certain age that you're somehow failing at life...interestingly they are almost universally shallow, Instagram and Facebook addicted people who don't read. |
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Dionkeykong said: Dionkeykong said: What you meant to say was, in all probability, that adults for the last 15 years or so are raised to be fragile...Like kids are..That's why we can't have nice things anymore..Imagine anime like Elfen Lied being produced today..Not a fucking chance in hell..Goblin Slayer had a "provocative" first ep and all the fruitcakes had seizures. Not very elegant, but there's a grain of truth to this. People are too sensitive these days. Elfen Lied was shit, though. Kinda was yeah and no i'm not elegant for sure but as you can see for yerself this industry has gone from eat a dick westerners with your sensibilities and censors etc to bending the knee to the twitter mob..And i for one i'm sick of that mentality. This industry has become a mass production factory of moe and easily digestable anime. You know what they say, brother. Money talks and bullshit walks. If moe sells, people will make it. Remember Twilight? When everything getting made in the west had to be about Vampires? Despite Twilight being an absolute abomination of a "novel". I can't even use the word novel unironically to describe it, it was that bad. But man, it turned vampires vogue. And it sold. I was in a bookshop with my teenage niece when it was out and people were talking about it and as we walked past a father and his teenage daughter browsing the section my niece said, "Oh, this is that vampire book everyones talking about." I replied, "In my day, vampires sucked blood. Not cock." The other dude and his daughter laughed their back off. Anyway, I digress. I'm not against the "moe" archetype but I agree that there is a lot of shit out there. I mean, there's always 20-30 new shows per season and only 4 or 5 are worth watching. The number of "original" shows, or shows with an original premise are even fewer in number. There's definitely way less pressure on the anime industry to bow down to the woke-madness shite that is gripping the West though. |
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| This kid writing posting this is still watching Pixar and Disney 3D cartoons lmao |
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| to everyone who's responded to this thread... this one's for you. |
petran79 said: Avicebrons said: First of all, where are you getting that from? Because you could also make a case for the opposite being true. TV animes tends to be quite censored in comparison to their manga counterpart, in which it's more explicit. And second of all, I'm not sure I see what point you're making. Cause even if it's "at least 3 years lower" (which I don't agree with), then it would still be aimed at kids regardless. This depends on the country and thei broadcasters TV policy. Eg Detective Conan manga is rated for 8 year old readers in Germany, while Viz rates it as 16 in the USA market. Germany also banned many mecha series popular in France , Italy and Spain in the 80s because they were regarded too violent for kids. Hokuto no Ken French dub turned it into a parody because in original format it was too violent for tv standards Heck even the popular kids series Maya the Bee was edited and censored in the dubbed version. Same for 70s Sindbad and other series. Silver Fang dubbed version edited violence out to make it marketed at kids instead of teens. Overall childrens programming executives back then were still experimenting and they had not many clues about what is truly suitable for kids Things were either too violent, too dramatic, too depressing, too cheap or too artistic for them. This varies WILDLY from country to country. And TV being more strict is only understandable. It's MUCH more easily accessible worldwide. So you can't exactly draw that conclusion. Besides, the rating methods are differently employed between comics and TV series. Meaning it's a null point to even make in order to support that argument. |
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| Damn I guess video games are for teens (kids) too then? 😔😓😥 |
| I just watched a video about elders Japanese who watch anime so I think anime is for everyone :D |
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| I'm an adult that grew up with anime so not sure what you're getting at. Let people enjoy anime regardless of age. Also, I didn't know "Redo of Healer" and other extreme ecchi anime are for kids Lol \\The future looks (horny)-bright-// |
| Loli hentai is hot. |
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