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He could copy the data but when passed it to another robot, it doesn't mean you have the same robot with the same personality. "There is nothing here that says it couldn't be done" but nothing proves otherwise either. Time had passed so things might have changed but at the very least, years ago, Elizabeth took the copy data but she was still a different person. And I saw no support from others so really doubt that he could make that breakthrough. >The part about not showing any romantic interactions between them Because it wasn't Grace. He also said that was only a replica. If they acted intimately with it then I wonder whether he truly loved her or just her appearance. He didn't call that replica Grace even once and just ordered her around like a robot. If the transplant succeeded then things would be different. >It still makes zero sense to put a robot there to run the island when it wasn't built for it. Instead of, you know, an AI actually built to run the island. Because they wanted to try something new which was giving a new mission to an AI after Estella did more than what her mission asked for. People who loved Grace wouldn't bury her but that was done to persuade people who still had doubt about the project. But yeah, after all that explaining, it is clear that Grace was put there for the drama (I just argue for sake of it xD). If they had more time to explain this, it would have been more awesome. You just make me realise how bad the episodic format is (j/k). Hope that they can make up for it with the remaining episodes. |
CDSHTMay 4, 2021 6:02 AM
| Not as powerful as episode 4 but execution-wise it was top-notch. I'm really digging the sound design and eye style which has been pretty hype so far. Apart from that, this episode gave me full Fate Stay Night HF and a lot of other Cyberpunk stories out there (Baldr Sky, Kikokugai if you're a bit of a VN enthusiast) vibe. The ending was too abrupt though, the twist was predictable even, they could have at least tried to delay the endcredit or something lol. |
Serafos said: This keeps getting better and better. Probably my favorite sci-fi anime of all time. 5/5. i think psycho pass season 1 is my fav sci fi but this is definitely up there. also id invaded was pretty good too |
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| THat ending was something else. I couldn't believe everything I just watched. That was one rollercoaster of emotions. It's getting really interesting to see the effect that these missions are having on Diva. I can't wait to see what she becomes by the end of this series. |
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| Things like an A.I. considering it's love for a particular individual (like in Grace's case) make me wonder how the hell they are even programmed. How can personal bias exist in an A.I.? Or are they supposed to "bond" with a single person as part of their subroutine? Some insert songs used coolly here, and boy, the animation is awesome. The CGI becomes jerky and textureless in fast frame rates, but I have to praise the fights. The cube matrix scene was brilliantly conceptualized, and I wonder when (after how many years) will Matsumoto start losing control over machines. If Vivy's actions speed up upgrades, he might become useless. This show shows how focussing on a huge vague goal (stop A.I. vs Humans from happening) can lead to heartbreaking losses on the way. Some of these losses are counterproductive to the aim of Vivy and it breaks her up (finally?). The alternating themes of marriage and death is common in high-stakes drama, so a huge part of the last part was predictable. Appreciate the double blood symbology at the end. Chose to save both races, ended up losing two from each. This particular story element smells of Tappei involvement. Irony and sacrifice goes hand in hand. I can't clearly say whether it's the best episode, but the show overall is really going up. The 'inconsistencies' are acceptable for a 1 cour show, but they need to step up in their game as the endgame approaches. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| For me, what I like about this series is the consequences of changing the past. In a sense similar to Tokyo Revenger and I am in Love with the Villainess. How the event of Sunrise was 20 minutes faster, or how in this episode the wedding didn't take place. I am a sucker for this kind of genre/trope. In the end, I wish to see the original timeline vs the alternate time as a whole. Eagerly waiting for the tipping point. |
| Bet $100000 vivy dies at the end of this show |
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| noticed after rewatching.. after Saeki died, and Vivy had blood in her hands. The light of the circle on her neck is turning red.. which is not a good sign.. I remember the rampaging robots on episode 1 had the circular light on their neck color red. 23feanor said: This episode took the show to a whole new level. The animation and story were both amazing, really sad at the end, poor Dr Saeki. He truly seemed in love with Grace and she seemed more than just an AI. She told him "i wouldn't marry just any human, it's only because it's you Tatsuya". yeah, saying she wouldn't just marry any person humanized Grace imo. If she was just a dumb robot, she would marry anyone who proposed to her. But for some reason, she likes Saeki, and would marry only him. also it is clear Saeki cares about Grace, because if he only cared about her looks, he already had the K5 ai. Sad that he never got laid with his waifu.. |
KIERO360 said: Tsarko said: Huh? How can you tell that from the credits?Another great and exciting episode. Love how the show manages to one up itself each week. Doctor taking his own life was sure shocking for Vivy. I wonder how she will come out of this incident, she will probably blame herself. I also wonder if her mission will entail taking human lives herself in the future. Also, seeing the ending credits of this episode, it seems like things aren't really going smooth production-wise. Hopefully the team at Wit manages to go through this one and without the loss of visual quality we've been getting so far. By absurd amount of animation directors, second key animators and in-between animators that this episode has. Huge numbers of those means that key frames were rough/unfinished and there wasn't enough time to finish the episode so they had to throw people at it to rush it before deadline. |
| ex arm level of CG , brah!!! Never thought I will see this type of comment here , mal user always suprise me ; |
Zean_9435 said: ex arm level of CG , brah!!! Never thought I will see this type of comment here , mal user always suprise me ; I agree, don't associate that piss poor pathetic attempt to Vivy. |
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| NGL i bursted out laughing at the CG part. Shit was so fucking dumb and funny LMAO. Decent episode nonetheless |
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| Grace seemed more human-like than any other sisters. I wish they could recover the data. But when Saeki got to know that Grace was chosen for this project then why didn't he back up her data right after? Vivy got quite the shock after seeing Saeki shoot himself, I wonder how this will effect her character development. It was good to see the Toak guy helping Vivy. I just hope he doesn't appear again with a new plan or else it'll get too repetitive. I suddenly have this theory that what if Matsumoto turns out to the main villain of this whole thing. What if all those missions that he is making Vivy do is actually not to stop the war between AI and mankind that will take place in 100 years. It'll be interesting to see a battle between Vivy and Matsumoto at the end. |
| This anime is so simpleton, eh. But it's not necessarily bad. Effort in production makes a difference even if 90% of the show is spouting ad hoc solutions to unreasonable situations. |
GaerledMay 6, 2021 5:53 PM
| There's no way that Wit fitted all that character and plot development into just one single episode. That was amazing and executed just about perfectly. Keep this up and this show will surely be contender for best anime this season. |
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| The animation on the episode man. Also, its getting better each episode, those stories get even more deeply each time. Reminds me of Violet Evergarden |
| Such a tragic romance, damnit, I wept!!! Vivy is feeling so guilty right now. |
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| This and Fumetsu no Anata he ep. 1 are the two single episodes I like most this season. Kept having chills during this episode |
| holy shit i did not expect that. I was so drawn in to vivy that i did not think what he would do. the cg was okay it kinda looked jarring for a bit but goddamn that sequence was cool. I really liked the op but it really grew on me this episode. It didn't feel like 23 minutes wtf |
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| Yeah had the feeling he'd shoot himself. That last part was pretty gruesome though. Blue blood in one hand and red blood in the other. That's dark. |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Grace :'( ..... And you could see it coming that Saeki was going to shoot himself :'( Fulfilling her mission makes her not fulfill her mission at the same time... no wonder Vivy's mental breakdown. The song is so beautiful and brings out so many feelings :'( |
| The sakuga animation was mind blowing.I thought Vivy would be the best girl this season but seems like it's not :( Seems like AI and Humans cannot live together afterall. This is definitely gonna go into my rewatch list. Thesaurust said: . The boy(adult) has a plot armor is getting annoying too. The timeskip is getting stale too. You clearly don't know what plot armor is. [quote=Tsarko message=63032170] KIERO360 said: Tsarko said: Huh? How can you tell that from the credits?Another great and exciting episode. Love how the show manages to one up itself each week. Doctor taking his own life was sure shocking for Vivy. I wonder how she will come out of this incident, she will probably blame herself. I also wonder if her mission will entail taking human lives herself in the future. Also, seeing the ending credits of this episode, it seems like things aren't really going smooth production-wise. Hopefully the team at Wit manages to go through this one and without the loss of visual quality we've been getting so far. ??This episode didn't seemed rushed at all at least to me. DarknessReality said: Yeah had the feeling he'd shoot himself. That last part was pretty gruesome though. Blue blood in one hand and red blood in the other. That's dark. I think that symbolises that AI and Humans cannot live together at all. |
ScordoloMay 21, 2021 8:16 AM
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| Hahah gun goes bam! the lad should have just moved on from his former relationship.. heck he should have made vivy his next groom. Besides she is the one that killed his former lover i'm pretty sure vivy would have been happy and he could go on living and fucking some robotic flesh. What a waste. |
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he choose to end it all with a bang. no waifu = no life. |
| I thought I was mortified by his last words, but I think I'm more traumatized(?) by that final gunshot, and her seeing two colours of "blood" on her hands. She's a killed AI who is here to save the world, but in the end she's also an enemy to both...for the greater good. Whatever that greater good is. Still OOF. okay. Grace's/Diva's song is beautiful. Saving Grace you could say. I find it interesting that as an AI - she could distinguish Grace's soul being gone. (I guess it's to suggest no two AIs are the same). |
| just rewatched this episode for 4th time and got goosebumps every single time.Maybe the episode of the year |
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| So Grace was the one controlling the whole island and Vivy stopped it. The scene with the ship was really breathtaking to be honest! And that end of episode was shocking... RIP |
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| magnificent chase scene for this episode. Rip Dr. Saeki and Grace |
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| Tatsuya literally chose death over living a life without his robot waifu. Not to mention that in a timeline where AI technology is at its peak, the poor doctor can't even make a damn backup of his AI wife's memories. Sucks to be him. Another average episode that becomes "good" because of animation; action and insert songs. Writing still leaves a lot to be desired. Last shot with Vivy's hands being covered in both human and AI blood was quite good tho. |
SouthRzVaJun 10, 2021 5:32 PM
| Kensho Ono as Saeki Sensei performance was Amazing, he really mailed the emotional part. Damn that ending though Saeki Sensei be like: my Waifu is gone, so am I. Another Love Story without an Happy Ending. The Animation was really Gorgeous, my eyes are truly blessed. |
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| It is really nice this anime is pulling these mini 2 episodes arcs and succeeding so fucking hell, my god. That made a lot of sense and you could feel the consequences of episode 4, I really felt for Grace, that was rough... a very emotional ending. Bravo! |
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| The episode was amazing. The whole scene going towards Grace, GREAT. And the song sung by her very good. And well the final part...damn. Amazing episode |
| Damn, that scene of Vivy delivering a beatdown to fake Grace and that final scene... absolutely amazing. Looks like Vivy's logic circuits are about to take a serious hit from this. |
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