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May 1, 2021 7:59 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Technology in this show shows that it has its dangerous risks and can't always be trusted, robots in particular.

Vivy once again put her own life on the line, as usual. She has such a selfless nature on her assignments although she knows the risks.
May 1, 2021 9:26 AM
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Am I bugging or is the ep not on Funi yet? Still showing ep 5

Ok funimation finally uploaded the episode and holy shit. Second best episode to only episode 4’s finale fight. Lots of emotional moments today with Grace and Tatsuya’s story, star-crossed lovers that were unfortunately never meant to be together. It’s really heartbreaking that they had to be ripped apart to save the future. The Vivy-matsumoto bike transformer sequence was awesome and the OST that played during the final punch thru Grace was chef’s kiss.

Then the scene of the red blood on Vivy’s left hand and the blue Android blood on the right after Saeki’s suicide.. gut wrenching. Beautiful ep.

Vivy continues to be the most slept on masterpiece in modern times.
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May 1, 2021 9:29 AM
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I can't see it as well
May 1, 2021 9:58 AM
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It’s still not in Funimation for me at the moment, is it for anyone else rn?
May 1, 2021 10:14 AM
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What the hell did I just watch

Easy AOTS
May 1, 2021 10:14 AM
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Wit does a Great job in this episode. Battle scene and OP insertion are so great. Waiting for next eps.
May 1, 2021 10:39 AM
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It's there on Anilab, and your favourite place of cats too.
May 1, 2021 10:53 AM
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How can A.I. help qualm human emotions? Just by holding them tight and delivering the same OP song that Diva logged in her time to successor A.I.s like Grace.

So apparently Professor Saeki's program that was supposed to stop the A.I. outrage didn't materialize, and the same guy that has seen Vivy for the 3rd time (since NiaLand and Hotel Sunrise) sure doesn't know when to give up his one-sided mindset (but hoping he sure does now).

Now we get to understand the backstory behind Saeki and Grace's marriage between a human and an A.I.: a simple servitude that had resulted from the Hotel Sunrise averted crash, and Grace chosen has the next in-line substitute of the Heroic Sisters for the fully autonomous Metal Float, Saeki's life has been nothing but downward spiralling. All this just to save a life that has already ceased to work normally.

Another stellar fight of mere data made even more spectacular with the insert of the OP (Diva's song, Grace's version) that leads to another justified killing spree to save humanity and stop A.I. rampage. But damn those sacrifices within the 100-year fix of a journey, it's hard to take it in.

For one thing, the distinction is clear now: Divy is the song-giving A.I., and Vivy is the A.I.-destroying A.I. Two missions, two personalities, one being.

We're officially halfway there, and this show hasn't lost a muster of its saving grace.
May 1, 2021 10:54 AM
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The robots were really scary in this episode. They picked up a target and they ain't gonna back down until the target is exterminated. I praise Tatsuya for loving Grace, an AI and now he's trying to protect her. I completely understand his feelings but she's not there anymore because of how much she's doing by handling that large-scale island. Poor Tatsuya, I felt really bad for him.
On the other hand, Vivy will do anything to protect human lives from the AI revolution. She has cleared her intentions. That Matsumoto transformation was pretty sick. ngl
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This keeps getting better and better.

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May 1, 2021 11:19 AM
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him to kill himself at the end... that's something i didn't expect. why is this anime so damnn good though?
May 1, 2021 11:23 AM
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It's getting worst every episode. wtf is this show lol


maybe drop it then? i don't see how it getting worse. it just getting better.but if you don't like it, i don't get why you haven't dropped it
May 1, 2021 11:27 AM
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What a roller coaster of emotions! I did not see the ending coming at all.
May 1, 2021 11:34 AM

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ofc i don't deserve happiness.. i'm already being fucked irl.. whats more getting fked in this sad realm of anime i watch...
but seriously.. this was one of the strongest episode of vivy.. and vivy didn't had a single weak episode.. so that's saying something..
This anime reminds me so much of Elfen Lied when focusing on MC and Nier automata when referring to the world..
May 1, 2021 11:51 AM

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That gunshot at the end gave me the chills.
May 1, 2021 11:51 AM

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This felt like it was the last episode, this show is so good



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May 1, 2021 11:52 AM
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That ending though... wow!
May 1, 2021 11:52 AM

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minfairys said:
Rose_Player said:
It's getting worst every episode. wtf is this show lol


maybe drop it then? i don't see how it getting worse. it just getting better.but if you don't like it, i don't get why you haven't dropped it
Maybe he meant the plot? As in, the way things are progressing are getting 'worse' in-universe, not that the itself show is bad.
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Sure, it’s sad that the scientist failed to save his AI wife and killed himself because he felt he had no purpose anymore, but this guy was a bit of a wack-job for marrying a robot that comforted him when he was a boy and his mother died, and killing himself when she was deactivated.

I still don’t get why she went berzerk to begin with. I get running the island was her new mission, but her basic one was to help people heal and attacking the terrorists definitely conflicts with that mission.

Nevertheless, good episode.
May 1, 2021 11:52 AM

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The fates given to AIs, whether they're emotionless or not, are horrible.
May 1, 2021 11:53 AM

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Apparently Vivy had some sort of mental breakdown at the end, wonder if this will trigger some sort of change on her.
May 1, 2021 11:58 AM
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Hmm a very normal reaction for a human fanatic i guess. So Saeki and Grace met when he was little huh. The proposal between Grace and Saeki though was cute. But its sad that the safe destruction of sunrise was to destroy that happiness that had existed in that moment. The cube jet was quite impressive of a construct. That run to the tower when complemented with the opening really was amazing. Overall an excellent ep that featured an excellent balance of sadness and tension. After losing the one that he loved the most Saiki deciding to take that route was as expected. Im curious though at how Diva's mind will handle things now that her mission resulted in human fatalities though. Looking forward to seeing Ophelia next ep though.
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May 1, 2021 11:58 AM
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0451 said:
minfairys said:


maybe drop it then? i don't see how it getting worse. it just getting better.but if you don't like it, i don't get why you haven't dropped it
Maybe he meant the plot? As in, the way things are progressing are getting 'worse' in-universe, not that the show is bad.

no they gave it 1 as a score so it obvious they hate it
May 1, 2021 12:04 PM
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minfairys said:


maybe drop it then? i don't see how it getting worse. it just getting better.but if you don't like it, i don't get why you haven't dropped it
I'm not dropping it because even if I don't think it's good, it's not boring. I also want to see what's this anime everyone is calling AOTS

you realize you don't make sense? so you think it's not that good but not boring. but then you gave it 1 as a score? you shouldn't waste your time on an anime you don't like.
May 1, 2021 12:05 PM

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minfairys said:
0451 said:
Maybe he meant the plot? As in, the way things are progressing are getting 'worse' in-universe, not that the show is bad.

no they gave it 1 as a score so it obvious they hate it
wow in what world does this show deserve a 1. Lmao
May 1, 2021 12:10 PM
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Rose_Player said:
minfairys said:


maybe drop it then? i don't see how it getting worse. it just getting better.but if you don't like it, i don't get why you haven't dropped it
I'm not dropping it because even if I don't think it's good, it's not boring. I also want to see what's this anime everyone is calling AOTS
Uhh... dude you ok? You scored this a 1 but you find it interesting and want to continue watching...
May 1, 2021 12:13 PM

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minfairys said:
0451 said:
Maybe he meant the plot? As in, the way things are progressing are getting 'worse' in-universe, not that the show is bad.

no they gave it 1 as a score so it obvious they hate it

Giving this anime a 1 convinced me he's just a hater and gets a hard on trolling people who genuinely love this series. It's a shame people like this need to shit on others to get attention.
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May 1, 2021 12:27 PM

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I had a feeling in my gut that Saeki was going to kill himself. I actually thought it was going to happen in that moment where the subs cut off Vivy's line mid-sentence, so when it didn't happen there I thought my prediction was wrong. But then.....well, you know lol. Vivy went crazy after that, I wonder how this might affect her going forward.

Also, that whole sequence from Matsumoto's transformation to when Vivy landed that final blow through Grace was awesome.
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Rose_Player said:
minfairys said:

you realize you don't make sense? so you think it's not that good but not boring. but then you gave it 1 as a score? you shouldn't waste your time on an anime you don't like.
I'm not wasting my time. I still want to see how the story progress to maybe see if the end change my view on the story. And it's not the first anime I watch I give a 1, and it's not gonna be the last, I mean it's normal to not like everything.


"I'm watching it because even tho I don't like it because I don't like people liking it"

If you are realistic this show is way beyond a 1 even if you don't like it, this is not Ex-arm, this is a trolling attempt.
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I'm not wasting my time. I still want to see how the story progress to maybe see if the end change my view on the story. And it's not the first anime I watch I give a 1, and it's not gonna be the last, I mean it's normal to not like everything.


"I'm watching it because even tho I don't like it because I don't like people liking it"

If you are realistic this show is way beyond a 1 even if you don't like it, this is not Ex-arm, this is a trolling attempt.

For real man. It's just criminal trolling at this point giving it a 1 while he gave Dogeza a 9. The obvious motive is to bring the rating down. I don't buy his flawed logic why he watches because it's bs.
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May 1, 2021 1:21 PM

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The CGI bike xD Matsumoto really is a genius. A lot of emotional moments. The last one where Dr.Saeki shot himself and Vivy went ''error'' mode.. What will happen in the next episode, can't wait for it. The OST was spot on.


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Janethan23 said:
foxyahoo said:


"I'm watching it because even tho I don't like it because I don't like people liking it"

If you are realistic this show is way beyond a 1 even if you don't like it, this is not Ex-arm, this is a trolling attempt.

For real man. It's just criminal trolling at this point giving it a 1 while he gave Dogeza a 9. The obvious motive is to bring the rating down. I don't buy his flawed logic why he watches because it's bs.
Just a stupid troll. Ignore him.
May 1, 2021 1:39 PM

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Every episode gives me chills. Many conflicts. But, Vivy should face the reality that she is making, soon. What she desires and what she is becoming are diverging. Also, Matsumoto, is that sugar cube reliable any more? It lacks empathy a.i. version 1.7. Either Matsumoto miscalculated things or the other forces that it doesn't realize are kicking in. In the end, Vivy is a beautiful terminator. :P
May 1, 2021 1:44 PM
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Damn! AI Blood in one hand, and Human Blood in another. I wonder what's gonna happen to Diva. Also, that gunshot completely caught me off guard lol. Brilliant episode overall. The insertion of OST was also fantastic. Seeing so many versions of the OP is very creative imo.

5/5
May 1, 2021 1:49 PM

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Omfg i was expecting him to kill himself after everything but to do it right in front of Vivy- ... her hands being covered with both AI "blood" and human blood.. it's just sad.. and symbolic i guess, until now she already had to sacrifice both AI's and human lives and they will not be the last either.
May 1, 2021 1:51 PM
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The scene where the kid was crying and Grace embraced him was so beautiful. It's definitely my favorite scene from the anime so far!

The best anime this season, (could even be the best of the year), if it keeps this intensity till the end!

And am I the only one who really love the song choices? the voices and the melody are top-tier emotional and fantastic!
May 1, 2021 1:57 PM

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Rose_Player said:
minfairys said:

you realize you don't make sense? so you think it's not that good but not boring. but then you gave it 1 as a score? you shouldn't waste your time on an anime you don't like.
I'm not wasting my time. I still want to see how the story progress to maybe see if the end change my view on the story. And it's not the first anime I watch I give a 1, and it's not gonna be the last, I mean it's normal to not like everything.
"1" means unwatchable. "1" is no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Clearly the production value is way above average. Even on subjective grounds at the very least you've said you don't think it's boring. So there's no way you seriously think it's a 1

Edit: nvn I saw the rest of your scores, you have no idea how to give scores
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"1" means unwatchable. "1" is no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Clearly the production value is way above average. Even on subjective grounds at the very least you've said you don't think it's boring. So there's no way you seriously think it's a 1
I don't use the score system. I just give 10s and 9s so when i sort my list by score I first see the anime I like. 1 for me doesn't mean it's appalling or unwatchable, I just didn't like it. I previously said this but this is not even my final score because I'll watch this anime until the end.
Yeah according to your scores, seasonal trash like Assassin's Pride is equally as good as Trigun, Re: Zero s2, and Houseki no Kuni. And they're all 1s xd.
May 1, 2021 2:10 PM
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That's a good shit, probably my favourite episode.
Like, everyone loved ep 4 which I didn't like that much, but this feels more real, sure a couple of strange moments. But the animation, the music score. Song totally did it for me. Strange love story, but they really made me care about this girl and the guy.
They probably won't show us, but what happened to Saeki's mom. Well that's probably not that important.
Also the villain got intresting development, and there is like one second flashback in the middle of an episode with him I wonder what is up with that.
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Rose_Player said:
eglepe said:
Yeah according to your scores, seasonal trash like Assassin's Pride is equally as good as Trigun, Re: Zero s2, and Houseki no Kuni. And they're all 1s xd.
If you read what I said, 1s just means I didn't like it. Of course they are not equal
Yeah I realise, it's just annoying to see as someone who agonises about how to rate each show
May 1, 2021 2:22 PM

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So far the show is nailing it on spectacle. The individual arcs have been pretty solid in terms of emotional impact and pacing. The jury is still out on overall themes. They have been a bit vague and sometimes conflicting so far, but they're complicated topics. Hopefully they'll be able to tie it all together by the end
May 1, 2021 2:47 PM

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That gunshot took me by surprise damn :(
May 1, 2021 3:04 PM
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Easily the best episode so far, the last bit when the doctor died was such an impactful scene. The camera work during the flight scene was absolutely amazing as well, even anime movies don't usually look this good.
May 1, 2021 3:21 PM

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dang that ending...

this has been one of my favorite so far and every week has been delivering.

The songs they insert into this by using the AI has been one of my favorite part of this show along with the visual and everything else lol...

Great episode, wonder what's going to happen to her since she "failed" her mission to make everyone happy through her song. Which her song to him was through Grace... I really like that part.
May 1, 2021 3:29 PM

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Well the ending didnt suprise me that much. I watched to many shows and read to many books to be suprised by something like that. But still it was a good ending showing how you cant save everything.
May 1, 2021 3:29 PM
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Cannot vote 6 out of 5; very, very good episode!

Very good series too, very good story, the kind of science fiction I like the most.

As the events come and go, Vivy apprehends more humanity and evolves.

It is a fact a sentient AI can be as human as a human being and more human than many human beings.

I am certain any AI concern is caused by the human being ignorance.

Unfortunately I will be dead when the sentient AI day comes.
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May 1, 2021 3:56 PM

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That flying sequence was just wow. Also rip 205, the emotion when Vivy realized it was the robot who first guided her was extremely well shown during that scene.

Good thing I prepared myself for the feels, there was no way the human x ai story would have had a happy ending. :(

I wonder what will happen to Vivy now..that breakdown had to be bad for her. Although indirectly, she has human blood on her hands now as well.
May 1, 2021 4:14 PM
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Holly shit the animation and everything about this show is great toodays ep was crazy
DR saiki or whatever is the biggest loser I've ever seen the maries a robot then kills him self wata LOSER DUMBASS
May 1, 2021 4:28 PM

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Another amazing episode. This show does such a great job of making you care about the characters. Vivy/Diva is definitely becoming more humanized.
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