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Aug 14, 2017 1:53 PM

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Top tier episode if not best until now. Animation went UBW style sky high , from those thunder/electro effects , too skale of Altair movements when she is launching her swords, but best showcase is that of Celecia Last attempt too damage Altair with that Gate like attack i was stunned pretty much whole episode by amount of good usage of 2.5D blended with 2d.

Magane showing at the most heated moment behind sotas backs bringing snacks and casually eating with him, how cute....


But aside from amazing action and animation, 2 moments stand out too me. The fact that Altair pretty much showcased just how much she has everyone inside her hands, she played with them like nothing even tho Selecia tried her hardest altair just basically said Bitch and all of you i can finish you off right here and now all your plans have flaw that i already countered..... And i can repeat it in multiple ways, but it would be boring too do so, think of the viewers that follow us....

Meta killed even me

Blitz had that very touching and all out honest conversation with his creator, and moment at the end really made me wow the most. His daughter is alive 0.0

Aug 14, 2017 2:23 PM
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Worth noting that in the latest Newtype Magazine poll,

Meteora Osterreich and Selesia Yuptiria are at the number 5 and number 10 spot respectively for top female characters of 2017.

Spots 1, 2, 3, & 4 are held by Jeanne D'Arc (F/A,) Artoria Pendragon (F/UBW), Mordred (F/A) and Asuna (SAO) respectively.


Meteora's banter was too strong in the recap


I'm honestly surprised that Altair wasn't on the list. That Jeanne is at the top spot doesn't surprise me; she's a shyer sexed-up version of Artoria, with a nearly identical romance scene which duplicates the true ending of Fate/Stay-Night: Realta Nua:




The best part about all this is that we now have enough information to surmise who some the characters would have been had the mega-mashup version of Re:Creators gone forward with the original characters:

Altair (as herself)

Jail (of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, with the Hanged Man) (Syo)

Madoka (of Madoka Magica) (Mamika)

Gintaro (Gintama) or someone else from JoJo's Bizarre adventure. (Yuya)

Meteora (as herself, I can't think of anyone from a JRPG who remotely compares)

Artoria Pendragon / Saber (Fate/Stay-Night)

Selesia Yuptiria (as herself) (I can't think of another magic-knight mecha series beyond Escaflowne)

Revy (Black Lagoon) (Magane)

Someone from a Gundam or Giant robot series (perhaps Marida Cruz / PLE-12).

Someone to replace Blitz (Motoko from Ghost in the Shell, maybe?)


Too many possibilities to truly nail down, but we have the character archetypes.


Basically, imagine the scene in episode 10 where Aliceteria stabs Selesia, only replace Aliceteria with Artoria, and you'll see what I'm getting at.


Alternatively, Selesia could well have been replaced by Melisa Mao or Souske Sagara from Full Metal Panic
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Aug 14, 2017 2:33 PM
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firemagnet said:
I'm honestly surprised that Altair wasn't on the list. That Jeanne is at the top spot doesn't surprise me; she's a shyer sexed-up version of Artoria, with a nearly identical romance scene which duplicates the true ending of Fate/Stay-Night: Realta Nua:




Altair hasn't had anything to do for the past two months. If she delivers and doesn't lose her cool I can see her rising to a respectable spot.
Aug 14, 2017 2:46 PM
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Cour_Victor said:
firemagnet said:
I'm honestly surprised that Altair wasn't on the list. That Jeanne is at the top spot doesn't surprise me; she's a shyer sexed-up version of Artoria, with a nearly identical romance scene which duplicates the true ending of Fate/Stay-Night: Realta Nua:




Altair hasn't had anything to do for the past two months. If she delivers and doesn't lose her cool I can see her rising to a respectable spot.


Victor, Re:Creators was originally supposed to be a mega-mashup between all of the major series. Who do you think would have been in?

Given the temperaments of Syo and Aliceteria, Jail of JoJo and Artoria of Fate/Stay-Night or Fate/UBW would have been in.

Replace Aliceteria with Saber and Mamika with Madoka / Snow White, and then imagine Saber going on a roaring rampage of revenge against Selesia in episode 10, and you can probably see where I'm coming from.


Also guaranteed that Altair will explode. At some point, the heroes will realize will realize that in order to defeat her, they have to attack her core motivation of her loyalty to Shimazaki Yuna. Likely during the 11th hour when Altair has successfully made it back to the real world and is blowing the cover off of the whole conspiracy by staging a battle directly above or in the stadium. If the audience is faced with what Altair really is--the personification of spite and hatred--they'll likely stop supporting her entirely as they'll realize the implications of what she's trying to achieve.
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firemagnet said:

Victor, Re:Creators was originally supposed to be a mega-mashup between all of the major series. Who do you think would have been in?

Actually, Aoki said the opposite at Otakon a few days ago. It has never been the plan.
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Cour_Victor said:
firemagnet said:

Victor, Re:Creators was originally supposed to be a mega-mashup between all of the major series. Who do you think would have been in?

Actually, Aoki said the opposite at Otakon a few days ago. It has never been the plan.


Hrm. I wonder how that particular rumor got started, then?
Aug 14, 2017 4:39 PM

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And here I was, wondering when Magane was going to crash the party like she usually does xD

That ending was simply great!!
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Aug 15, 2017 6:47 AM

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How can they bring people from the fictional world to the real world? Or maybe this isn't his real daughter?

Also, are the guys in the stadium seeing what we see for the battle on the cage part? For us viewers it obviously cuts from fight to fight, does it the same for the viewers in the stadium? Are they having hundreds of cameras and mics there?
I always find it hard to believe when scenes that we are seeing are supposed to be something that is broadcasted in the in-show-world with closeups, moving cameras and such.

I'd like to see more Magane!
Aug 15, 2017 7:03 AM

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she is his and his story creator she can do anything like change story she wrote


Even being his creator, she can bring his dead daughter back to life? But people would need to believe in that.
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Aug 15, 2017 9:47 AM

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That last part with Blitz and his creator is very intense.

But there's one thing I want to know, how come Blitz' daughter got "acceptance"? Maybe it'll explain on the next episode, hopefully.


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AivanK said:
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she is his and his story creator she can do anything like change story she wrote


Even being his creator, she can bring his dead daughter back to life? But people would need to believe in that.
AivanK said:
elior1 said:
she is his and his story creator she can do anything like change story she wrote


Even being his creator, she can bring his dead daughter back to life? But people would need to believe in that.
but isnt being the story creator means you can do as much changes as you like to the story?
Aug 15, 2017 11:44 AM
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elior1 said:
but isnt being the story creator means you can do as much changes as you like to the story?

The audience is what matters. They tried to give Selesia a power-up in episode 3 and failed because they didn't publish it, remember?
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I dont like they never covered Mamika's Creator though in part due to her death maybe but it be nice if she was brought back o.O, Im a sucker for Mahou Shoujo's

Also hope Sota's character isn't Shimazaki............... >.> it's one thing in Blitz case...
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Aug 15, 2017 8:10 PM
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Episode 18 preview

Aug 15, 2017 8:30 PM
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Episode 18 preview


I'm really wondering how the battle between Sho and Yuuya will conclude. It would be interesting to see if their rivalry gets solved in the crossover storyline
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Cour_Victor said:
dmr said:
Episode 18 preview


I'm really wondering how the battle between Sho and Yuuya will conclude. It would be interesting to see if their rivalry gets solved in the crossover storyline
Meteor's team did not know about his arrival. How can it be in the crossover storyline?
Aug 15, 2017 8:42 PM
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Debigll said:
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I'm really wondering how the battle between Sho and Yuuya will conclude. It would be interesting to see if their rivalry gets solved in the crossover storyline
Meteor's team did not know about his arrival. How can it be in the crossover storyline?
Everything that's happening here is in the crossover storyline

They'll probably have a temporary truce and team up against Altair. That's the most feasible way to go.
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Cour_Victor said:
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Meteor's team did not know about his arrival. How can it be in the crossover storyline?
Everything that's happening here is in the crossover storyline

They'll probably have a temporary truce and team up against Altair. That's the most feasible way to go.
I'm more interested in the way Altair is going to get the support of the audience.
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Debigll said:
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Everything that's happening here is in the crossover storyline

They'll probably have a temporary truce and team up against Altair. That's the most feasible way to go.
I'm more interested in the way Altair is going to get the support of the audience.


The way she's gaining the acceptance of the audience is in two stages. The first is by proving that she can't be defeated. Within the scope of the "show," she needs to conceptualize herself as an entity with the powers of a god. This includes the ability to do things only a god should be able to do, such "create" life. Following this, she needs to "realize" herself by breaking out of the bird-cage and defeating her opponents directly in front of the audience at the stadium. Doing so will sufficient warp the "acceptance" of humanity and the laws of the universe such that she can successfully being colliding the worlds and attempt to erase them.

Altair is extremely similar, and almost identical in motivation, to Kurome Ankokuboshi from Megadimension Neptunia VII. Almost to a tee. The only real difference is that while Altair just wants revenge, Kurome wants to watch the universe burn and have fun while igniting it, before destroying it. Bonus points in that Kurome is a chess-master easily as skilled as Altair is.
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firemagnet said:
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I'm more interested in the way Altair is going to get the support of the audience.


The way she's gaining the acceptance of the audience is in two stages. The first is by proving that she can't be defeated. Within the scope of the "show," she needs to conceptualize herself as an entity with the powers of a god. This includes the ability to do things only a god should be able to do, such "create" life. Following this, she needs to "realize" herself by breaking out of the bird-cage and defeating her opponents directly in front of the audience at the stadium. Doing so will sufficient warp the "acceptance" of humanity and the laws of the universe such that she can successfully being colliding the worlds and attempt to erase them.

Altair is extremely similar, and almost identical in motivation, to Kurome Ankokuboshi from Megadimension Neptunia VII. Almost to a tee. The only real difference is that while Altair just wants revenge, Kurome wants to watch the universe burn and have fun while igniting it, before destroying it. Bonus points in that Kurome is a chess-master easily as skilled as Altair is.
I think that you are right. I think there are only two possible outcomes here: 1) Altair gets even more strength, but Meteor's team defeats Altair (with the help of Magane or the character of Sota) and everything ends well; 2) Altair gets even more power, but something goes wrong (factor Magane) and she accidentally calls even more characters and we are waiting for season 2, still several times showed pictures of other characters. Sorry for my bad english :)
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she is his and his story creator she can do anything like change story she wrote


Even being his creator, she can bring his dead daughter back to life? But people would need to believe in that.
i don’t think the writer can conveniently control her creation with just a script and audience rating, i believe the matter of suruga known what blitz will said was just a matter of familiarity
Aug 16, 2017 4:57 AM

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Does that mean it also possible to bring back Mamika too?
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Aug 16, 2017 5:31 AM
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Does that mean it also possible to bring back Mamika too?
Very unlikely. I don't see a story template they can use where she comes back from the dead. Even if they did it, I don't know if that would matter to the Mamika who's already ceased to being.
Aug 16, 2017 7:07 AM

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Oh shit that ending!!!! I really thought Blitz was going to kill Suruga, but god damn the Daughter coming in!!!! That was unexpected! So good. But now that I think about it Meteora can pull things from other worlds so it makes sense.

I liked the interaction between Alice and Kanoya, I like when she tapped his Robot's head, that was kinda cool.

When is Selestia going to battle her boy. That's what I am waiting for.

also Magane just doing Magane things lol
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Aug 16, 2017 2:17 PM
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Oh shit that ending!!!! I really thought Blitz was going to kill Suruga, but god damn the Daughter coming in!!!! That was unexpected! So good. But now that I think about it Meteora can pull things from other worlds so it makes sense.

I liked the interaction between Alice and Kanoya, I like when she tapped his Robot's head, that was kinda cool.

When is Selestia going to battle her boy. That's what I am waiting for.

also Magane just doing Magane things lol


Next episode's cliffhanger will likely be Charon showing up to challenge Selesia and Rui.

Aug 16, 2017 2:24 PM

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damn I dont know what this anime is. Its so boring some times and the endless talking is really dumb.
But it also has strong points like here with Blitz and his creator.
The fighting was ok I guess. Altair use of the swords looks good, it really feels out of this world.

I was wondering when best girl will appear again to remind everyone we still have episodes left. Lets see what she is up to.
Also when will souta become a MC? At the end he will settle things with altair and his past, no doubt. But he just feels like a side character right now.

edit - Oh right apparently they can force summon characters and gear now.
Time to bring Mamika back

I actually enjoy the dialogue like HxH, some series have just meaningless filler dialogue but there are series which do it pretty well like this one.


Aug 16, 2017 3:04 PM

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I loved it! I FUCKING LOVED IT! though i already knew it... Alicetaria is too strong, Altair is like a Gilgamesh with explosive swords, i still prefer Gigas-Machine than Selesia's mecha, Syo is OP and Magane is doing it again... But the best part definitively was Blitz and Sugura, OMG thas was insane, when the cops entered to help i said: What the fuck are you going to do against a creation and then... Oh, i see.

BEST EPISODE SO FAR BY NOW <3
Aug 16, 2017 5:57 PM

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Comedy of the season
Aug 17, 2017 12:49 AM
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I really love the last scene. I think Blitz's creator wants to say this, "Blitz, you're just a creation and I'm your creator, your God, do you know what does it mean to be a God? I can do anything!!! Even make your daughter alive again!!!" that's what I saw from her face wkwkwk I just really want Altair to be taken down because she's really annoying and fool. I bet her creator didn't want Altair to be a character like her now.
Aug 17, 2017 8:26 AM

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duderus said:
We finally get some long action scenes and then we get interrupted with a surprise loli.


My favorite kind of loli!

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damn blitz daughter kawaiiiiiiiiiiii ~!!!


I can understand why he was upset this whole time, at the loss of search an adorable girl. I would be mad too.
Aug 17, 2017 7:36 PM

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but isnt being the story creator means you can do as much changes as you like to the story?


Yes, but they mentioned that it will only work if the people accept it. So it means that they can't make random bs and hope that people will accept it (not that i am saying that bringing his daughter back is bs).
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Aug 17, 2017 7:38 PM

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i don’t think the writer can conveniently control her creation with just a script and audience rating, i believe the matter of suruga known what blitz will said was just a matter of familiarity


Exactly! Let's wait for the next episode to see what really happened.
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Aug 17, 2017 8:55 PM
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Dammit! I watched through from beginning and determined to finished this episode 17 before the day episode 18 released but I couldn't hold my excitement aura from this show. I won't mention many details here about the show I think but so far it is going excellent. I think also that this show was initially planned for 13 episode then they extended to 22, maybe.
Anyway, after all the previous buildup episodes, now this episode executed the planned and proved that Altair is actually super OP/ and more interestingly Magane appeared at the right time and chased the right character to create disturbance. She is darn unpredictable character ever I witnessed.
5/5 for this episode. Hyped for the next episode!

Aug 18, 2017 12:07 AM

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oh man that was awesome
Aug 25, 2017 10:47 AM

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Last few episodes were pretty meta experience from anime. Now its going old good action way. But its still something.
Aug 26, 2017 8:39 AM
🥊 CHAMPION 🥊

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Intense episode full of action and cool end suprise!!! ;)
Aug 26, 2017 10:22 AM

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The plan failed way too easily, not even close, at least so far.
Sep 23, 2017 12:05 PM

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Great battles and what a great move it was to bring Blitz's daughter back!
Sep 25, 2017 5:33 AM

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i don't get exactly why flying swords can stop super heat lazer attacks etc or even penetrate a tank armour for that.


Blitz creator is quite the badass.
Sep 27, 2017 12:12 PM

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I feared it and it happened! The female mangaka gave up to shock "bad writing" just to save the world.

2.5+/5 because it starts to look better and it had an almost interesting creator/ion interaction.


@CodeBlazeFate Is it me or are the events screened as animation during the "avant-première" repeated live in real life by the materialized characters ? The influence seeems way too big for a limited event with a limited audience like thzt.
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I feared it and it happened! The female mangaka gave up to shock "bad writing" just to save the world.

2.5+/5 because it starts to look better and it had an almost interesting creator/ion interaction.


@CodeBlazeFate Is it me or are the events screened as animation during the "avant-première" repeated live in real life by the materialized characters ? The influence seeems way too big for a limited event with a limited audience like thzt.
Yes. Plus, as the next episode or so shows you, people are pirating it.
Sep 28, 2017 1:49 AM

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That last scene made me remember g-senjou no maou again
Oct 4, 2017 2:23 AM

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well played Suruga, well played. as expected from the author of detective manga.

we haven't see Selestia lover yet, the plot twist isn't even there.
Oct 29, 2017 4:03 PM

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Altair is incredibly strong, Selesia doesn't have a chance against her, the other fights are ok.
Jan 30, 2018 9:22 AM

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Altair's design was flawless, but I noticed some shitty CGI here and there (mainly Aliceteria running around), I guess they could've postponed a few hours this episode just to not do that since the previous episodes did not have this "problem"
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Feb 10, 2018 7:26 AM

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Really fucking good episode but gaaaaaaaahd damn is Altair extremely op. Like I realize that's the point but man is it fucking annoying
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Feb 13, 2018 1:30 PM

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Dude, I was not expecting that beautiful ending scene... Caught me off guard xD
Feb 22, 2018 10:59 PM

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Damn the fight scenes are amazing. Then the scene at the end with Blitz and his creator is amazing as well.

Mar 7, 2018 5:57 AM

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Wow was definitely not expecting Blitz's daughter to show up in this world all of a sudden there.
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Oh boy, oh boy! What a great episode and what an ending! Really lovely development and really do wonder what happens next!
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