Digimon Adventure: Episode 2 Discussion

animejas said:
I have no idea about what happened in the apparent jump in this episode since never watched/encountered Digimon before, but this felt like an okay episode.

Very slowly getting adjusted to this franchise, Gaururumon looks dope though.

Ryuseishun said:


I'm pretty sure one would've need to watch the original Digimon series (just the first one) to have some prior knowledge as so to not get entirely lost.

Other than that, it feels like the plot is all over the place, regardless. Not really sure if it's a good idea to escalate things this early in the remake.

Venumidas said:
Everyone worried about "power creep" and all that shit not realizing that this is probably just a 1 time thing just to get people back in the series.

They are obviously not gonna evolve to that level again for a LOOOOT of episodes.

Seems more like a "This kind has to happen in this situation because we have absolutely 100% no other choice" rather then "Yeah let's just throw the endgame in episode 2.

Remind me more of a early Final Fantasy Opening where you fight the main boss early in the game or you have to lose a match (just that they win in this case, probably, would be interesting tho if Tokyo actually gets completely nuked)

Paul said:

Also, it might be because its been so long but I don't remember Yamato being so much of an ass.

Ersatz-Gott said:


And that's the problem. Fanservice. I don't want another Dragon Ball Super ffs.

Ryuseishun said:


I'm pretty sure one would've need to watch the original Digimon series (just the first one) to have some prior knowledge as so to not get entirely lost.

Other than that, it feels like the plot is all over the place, regardless. Not really sure if it's a good idea to escalate things this early in the remake.

raifuresu said:
I want to enjoy this series, I really do.

Omegamon in the second episode? They didn't even turn into WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon first...
This show feels too rushed. I understand the entire episode, including Omegamon's appearance, is a big reference to the Bokura no War Game movie, but still. Yamato and Taichi fighting side by side right when they first meet is also kind of weird, if you watched the original series you must know Yamato is terrible with team work. I feel like they're making his personality even more forced and difficult to like too, but maybe this is just me.

Other than that, I'm overall really disappointed with Toei's work. The animation isn't even as good as Gegege no Kitaro's animation, which was the anime that aired in the same timeslot before Digimon started and was also made by Toei. It's not terrible, but it's very, very average, and it has some very ugly shots. Like, this full body Omegamon looks terrible:

Toei has never given Digimon's animation any love though, so I don't know why I'm surprised.

Actar said:
It's our war game yet again. After Summer Wars, I would have thought that Digimon would have wanted to distance themselves from the plot thread, but it looks like we're going to retread it once again.

The thing is, I'm not against doing Our War Game at the beginning of the series as seeing how the characters respond to the same events without all the knowledge and experience they gained over the course of the series can be rather refreshing. However, as of episode 2, I'm just not a fan of how they're doing it because it looks like Toei wants to have their cake and eat it. They want everything to go exactly the same way as the original but it doesn't make sense because the characters, their relationships, their experiences, are fundamentally different.

Like, what the fuck, they did Omegamon in Episode 2. I'm serious! Yes, it was cool and unexpected, but they did absolutely nothing to earn it. Taichi and Yamato just met, not only each other, but their Digimon. Where was that bond? Granted, as hinted in the character backstories, they're doing something funny with Takeru and Hikari's crests, but this does not invalidate all the issues this causes. Like, they've already set Taichi and Yamato to be special from the get go. There's no build-up or significance to Omegamon unlike in Our War Game where he was the culmination of an entire season's growth. Not to mention, because of them jumping the gun and blowing their load early, everything from here on out will seem rather meh by comparison. Think starting you off with a fully-powered game character only to remove all your powers after the tutorial. That sucks, doesn't it? yeah.

Another complaint that others have mentioned is that Koushiro is way too experienced and knowledgeable about how his tablet and the digital world functions. While you could put it down to him being super smart in this version, it's most likely that they needed him to serve the exact same role as he did in Our War Game as the navigator. Will this continue into the later episodes? Only time will tell.

So, that's the main problem I'm having with this series. It's that it's putting the cart before the horse. How on Earth they'll be able to match up to the scale of these beginning episodes, I have no clue. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that they wrote themselves into a very difficult position. As-is, they were pretty much going through the Our War Game motions, but dumbbed down. For a moment, I legitimately thought that the missile would blow something up when the timer counted down to zero, like that would have been impressive, but it was just counting down to its launch.

While we did get a little bit of character interaction in this episode, as already mentioned, it's really nothing that would warrant calling out Omegamon. Yamato being all stoic and pragmatic and Taichi being all friendly. This is again another way Our War Game works to the detriment of the series. Because they're all fighting instead of wandering around and getting their barrings, there's hardly any time for them to have any meaningful dialogue. Of course, that's not to say that we won't get any good character interaction later on down the road. It's that there's a reason why Our War Game was set at the end of the original Adventure. Without any of that prior history, it's just a waste of a really cool action set piece.

But hey, speaking of the action, it was good. If there's one thing I'm really loving about this series, it's the action. Gone are the stock special attack animations, the Digimon are in there fighting along side their partners using various strategies. Greymon doesn't just shoot fire, he's there using his entire body. There's a real visceral feel to the fights that make them really fun to watch. If only there was a little more emotion behind it beyond that artificially created sense of urgency and heightened stakes.

One last thing I'd like to note is that Greymon and Garurumon seem to know each other from before the series began and share a rather friendly competitive relationship. That's actually pretty cool, giving the OG Digimon more personality.

Ferien said:


To be fair, Joe and Mimi weren't given much attention and/or played key roles either in the original (despite having their moments too)