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| This episode didn't feel like an ending.Everyone outside of Iroha and Yachiyo needed more character development.So I'm glad there was a second season announced. The fight between Sayaka and Mami was awesome tho.  |
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| Looks like they saved their entire animation budget for this episode, they finally got an action scene that didn't suck, and they finally got Iroha to do something outside of having her Doppel take over. This first season was a soulless mess that failed to convey any emotion. For something related to Madoka Magica, I had expected way more. So many episodes suffered from brutal pacing issues, with stuff going too fast or too slow. So many random, poorly animated battle scenes that served no purpose. Far too many character introductions in such low episode count. Iroha doing literally nothing for 12 episodes straight. Not a single mention or hint of Kuroe after that first episode, like WTF? It's sad to say the game did the story more justice, lol. I'll give this a 5/10, and 5 of those points come from Iroha looking pretty in each episode. On the bright side, they're going to have to try to make season 2 worse than this. |
| Can someone explain to me HOW Miki Sayaka got so strong to the point of dodging so many of Mami's attacks? I mean she looks like she has insane defense stats but in the original series, she was always said to be the weakest of holy quintet... So, to me it doesn't make much sense. |
salarx said: Ryoketsu said: I don't come from the game and it didn't surprise me. I think it's clear enough, since several episodes ago, that Magia Record takes place in a universe separate from that of the original series and the characters who lived or died there will not necessarily be in the same situation here. Not all people watch with dedication, I think that might be the reason. And the same people who don't pay attention to details, blame the anime for allegedly "lacking information" and give it a bad score. |
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| So they used the retarded brainwash plot device afterall, but did they really have to portray Mami as a complete lunatic here? Not only does she act insane, her battle actions don't make sense either. Why would a rifle user go into hand-to-hand combat immediately? Also all 3 shots she fires during it are pointed upward, not at her target. And in the end she gets defeated by having a boulder fall on her, seriously? LMFAO The animation & art quality this episode continued to look underwhelming with Mami going completely 3D for a few shots. Same goes for action direction. The 2vs1 doppel battle was mostly them just jumping around each other and Mami's bullet rain was effortlessly blocked most of the time. The one scene with Sayaka blocking the big shot was impressive though. Her fire extinguisher Rebellion reference appearance was too 'in-your-face'. Her instantly growing back a ripped arm was cool tho, much stronger healing powers than before. The decision to change Yachiyo's doppel to have her grow an extra set of arms is questionable, seriously, why? That Magius gathering in the end had literally over a hundred of magical girls. Even with the free soul gem purification, can one city really fit so many? Also, what the hell was that blue dot in Iroha's soul gem? |
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ci_nagaoka said: Can someone explain to me HOW Miki Sayaka got so strong to the point of dodging so many of Mami's attacks? I mean she looks like she has insane defense stats but in the original series, she was always said to be the weakest of holy quintet... So, to me it doesn't make much sense. In this universe she has lived longer than in the original series, it is natural that she has more experience. |
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Eroha said: ci_nagaoka said: Can someone explain to me HOW Miki Sayaka got so strong to the point of dodging so many of Mami's attacks? I mean she looks like she has insane defense stats but in the original series, she was always said to be the weakest of holy quintet... So, to me it doesn't make much sense. In Rebellion she was quite strong Not THAT strong, not strong enough to defeat Homura, though, that's why she ran away at that time without ever starting a real fight. Besides Madokami lent her some power from what I understood. But in MagiReco, she looks about as strong as badass Homura from Rebellion... It doesn't seem coherent... |
Ryoketsu said: ci_nagaoka said: Can someone explain to me HOW Miki Sayaka got so strong to the point of dodging so many of Mami's attacks? I mean she looks like she has insane defense stats but in the original series, she was always said to be the weakest of holy quintet... So, to me it doesn't make much sense. In this universe she has lived longer than in the original series, it is natural that she has more experience. Walpurgis Nacht hasn't even shown up yet, lol... |
Ryoketsu said: In this universe she has lived longer than in the original series, it is natural that she has more experience. On point. In other universes she witches out. Sayaka is a strong fighter, we haven't seen her fighting in full potential. Here she might be as strong as Kyoko. |
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| The fight against Holy Mami was absolutely hilarious to me! So over-the-top and insane. I wouldn't necessarily say it was a "good" fight scene, but it was fun to watch. I suppose it was better directed than the previous few fights we've seen, but it still left a lot to be desired from me. Also did anyone else scream when Sayaka's arm freaking FLEW off because of Mami's tiro finale?? That was such a nice touch; it might be my favourite moment of the whole show purely due to how unexpected it was... |
ci_nagaoka said: Not THAT strong, not strong enough to defeat Homura, though, that's why she ran away at that time without ever starting a real fight. Besides Madokami lent her some power from what I understood. But in MagiReco, she looks about as strong as badass Homura from Rebellion... It doesn't seem coherent... Her intention was not to fight Homura. There's no counter-attack for Homura's Time Magic, only Mami can do it using her ribbons. Still Sayaka managed to evade Homura, which is very skilled move. |
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| i JUMPED when i saw the fire extinguisher i KNEW it was my good sis sayaka. nah but on jah the only good fight scene in this whole show was sayakas. it was the only one that didnt look awkward |
| As of now I would also say that storytellingwise it was a rather weak series and not really my cup of tea, but the next cour still has the chance to redeem it somewhat. |
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| As a player of the game I can say that I am a little disappointed ... they jumped on some interesting stuff especially a few episodes ago with Uwasa AI .. there they skip a lot ... and mostly felt rushed ... and the first half of this last episode ... holy sh*t that was rushed as hell I mean...in the game you have magical girls category where you can play the story of each girl and there they have the main development ... but in 80% of cases in anime those parts either they omitted or they rushed it in seconds... the game explains everything very well, while the anime....yeah.... So and so if you're just anime only then I understand why some of you were disappointed or confused. ... I'll stick with 7/10 but there is more room for improvement ^-^ |
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| Really good ending episode just comes with a very bitter taste of how unremarkable the last 12 episodes have been. Season 2 or no Season 2 (which didn't get announced until today anyway) this whole show feels like a poor man's imitator, like another one of the copycats that spawned in the wake of Madoka's success. Just now it feels like it's finally getting interesting but I'm fearing it's just too damn late for me to care. I haven't yet seen a series 2 or spinoff that manages to redeem a mediocre or bad first series. Too many characters, too long to get into the meat of the story too long for everything. Too much emphasis on making crazy wacky art and not enough on the story. Next time don't hire the art team to write the story. This series might have been better off being a straight shot of 26 episodes instead of doing the split cour style or better yet deliver that movie they had been teasing the last few years. SHAFT has gotten to complacent with the cash cow Monogatari franchise to care about Madoka anymore, what a shame. |
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ShadowBlazer3000 said: Really good ending episode just comes with a very bitter taste of how unremarkable the last 12 episodes have been. Season 2 or no Season 2 (which didn't get announced until today anyway) this whole show feels like a poor man's imitator, like another one of the copycats that spawned in the wake of Madoka's success. Just now it feels like it's finally getting interesting but I'm fearing it's just too damn late for me to care. I haven't yet seen a series 2 or spinoff that manages to redeem a mediocre or bad first series. Too many characters, too long to get into the meat of the story too long for everything. Too much emphasis on making crazy wacky art and not enough on the story. Next time don't hire the art team to write the story. This series might have been better off being a straight shot of 26 episodes instead of doing the split cour style or better yet deliver that movie they had been teasing the last few years. SHAFT has gotten to complacent with the cash cow Monogatari franchise to care about Madoka anymore, what a shame. Shaft is sort on difficult times right now. Supposedly, many animators left to David Productions and there ain't many writers out there like Gen Urobuchi. To me, it feels like he's done with the series, he even said it isn't his anymore... His recent work also has been very uninspired. |
ci_nagaoka said: Shaft is sort on difficult times right now. Supposedly, many animators left to David Productions and there ain't many writers out there like Gen Urobuchi. To me, it feels like he's done with the series, he even said it isn't his anymore... His recent work also has been very uninspired. Oh yeah I do remember Urobuchi saying he was done or was ready to move on, and that's understandable. |
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| Quite a action packed season finale! Damn! Mami losing her marbles and Sayaka appearing to fight alongside Iroha and Yachiyo after looking for Mami for a while! Iroha gets taken in the end... what a way to make me wait for the second season, which has been confirmed is in production! So let's hope the wait won't be too long!! Overall, a very good Anime! Great art as we can expect from the franchise! Shaft keeps surprising us with the funny designs of the witches and the Uwasa!! Characters, I like them, although it did lack a bit in character development! Sound was great, the OST is as expected incredible!! It's pretty hard to live up to the expectations of the Original series, but I didn't think this was bad by any means! A great buildup for what's to come in the second season, atleast I am hoping for that! 8/10 |
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Yuhani said: Genoard said: That Magius gathering in the end had literally over a hundred of magical girls. Even with the free soul gem purification, can one city really fit so many? I don't see why not. It's a big city. Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the original Madoka Magica have 1 magical girl per city with Mitakihara being Mami's territory and Kazamino being Kyoko's? |
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Genoard said: Correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't the original Madoka Magica have 1 magical girl per city with Mitakihara being Mami's territory and Kazamino being Kyoko's? I think you missed the part "Come to Kamihama, Magical Girls can be saved here". There are many girls that came from neighboring cities. Hence more girls. Also it's due to coordinator, the magical survival rate is high Kamihama, and magical girls live in small bands. Also due to a sudden rise in number of witches, Kyubey must have contracted even more girls, even if he didn't, there's clear Magius are literally calling magical girls to Kamihama, and tell me a girl who doesn't want to be saved. It's well written plot if you start paying attention. |
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| im actually kind of surpriced that this thread is so positive about magia record considering it took them 12 episodes to get the plot going and their central conflict doesnt even make sense . not to mention that it is unrelated to the actual goals of the main character the anime has some really cool ideas but isnt more then a 3/10 story wise and from a structural perspective. |
CuteAssTiger said: im actually kind of surpriced that this thread is so positive about magia record considering it took them 12 episodes to get the plot going and their central conflict doesnt even make sense . I'm sure you have some suggestion on how the story should have been. We would like to hear it. |
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salarx said: CuteAssTiger said: im actually kind of surpriced that this thread is so positive about magia record considering it took them 12 episodes to get the plot going and their central conflict doesnt even make sense . I'm sure you have some suggestion on how the story should have been. We would like to hear it. 1. dont have innumerable amounts of side quests that dont go anywhere. 2. write your antagonistic force in a way that their goals interfere with your main characters goals in a way that presents both sides a valid and justified . this conflict is litterly just " we have a solution against withes " VS " i actually just want to find my sister" there is no reason for those 2 groups to fight each other . they just do. and iroha actually says something like that every now and then but whatever. it also would not hurt to not make such a big fuss and secret about something. just tell them about your plan rathen then fighting them all the time. but logic would get in the way of the plot 3. make a conflict that actually makes sense 4. dont have villians show up out of nowhere ( the green russian one ) that have no backstory to tell, no forshadowing, no goals of their own , just to start up beef with the main cast . just to disapear after that. even if she has all of that in season 2 it makes a really bad inclusion for s1 5. dont have trowaway characters, spend your time on those that actually matter the original madoka focuses on 5 main girls and some side characters and we get a really great story out of all of them while contributing to the actual plot. this anime has a lot of girls with their side quests that dont do anything for the plot . This is just poor writing (im assuming it is this way to get those micro transactions going ingame . gotta sell you more girls with some kind of backstory . but that doesnt make it good ) it really isnt hard to write a better story then this one . we have over 2400 years of story telling on our hands . there is so much material to learn from . and no , "write a better story yourself" is not a good argument. |
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| My mind blown away when i saw "Magius" fully reunited and got goosebumbs when saw Tsuruno and Felicia joined T-T, i was hopping they foreshowed "Mothra" a little, that maybe gonna made the scene more epic!!! |
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Sondfer said: Looks like they ran out of budget before the last episode - most of fighting scenes was just left to our imagination, and that cut with Miki just standing still...oof. I must've been distracted by the amazing animation during the part where Sayaka was holding off the giant ball of energy and her arm got destroyed, and then regenerated. Felt like all the budget went into that but the rest wasn't bad by any means |
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| 8/10 for me. Story wasn't done the best it could've been, but coming from a gacha I'm really impressed. The game is super boring to actually play so I'm glad we have this version to enjoy the story even though it's a bit messy. Animation was good where it mattered, music was good. |
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faeryghost said: The fight against Holy Mami was absolutely hilarious to me! So over-the-top and insane. I wouldn't necessarily say it was a "good" fight scene, but it was fun to watch. I suppose it was better directed than the previous few fights we've seen, but it still left a lot to be desired from me. Also did anyone else scream when Sayaka's arm freaking FLEW off because of Mami's tiro finale?? That was such a nice touch; it might be my favourite moment of the whole show purely due to how unexpected it was... Yea I didn't find the fight good either though baffling and ridiculous. Sayaka came off a little overpowered too. |
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Kougeru said: Sondfer said: Looks like they ran out of budget before the last episode - most of fighting scenes was just left to our imagination, and that cut with Miki just standing still...oof. I must've been distracted by the amazing animation during the part where Sayaka was holding off the giant ball of energy and her arm got destroyed, and then regenerated. Felt like all the budget went into that but the rest wasn't bad by any means It's undeniable that many of the shots where really budget made and lacked a lot of choreography Many of the shots are litterally just Mami doing an attack and sayaka standing there blocking it . And the animation for Mami starting the volley was reused like 3-4 times . This isn't Pokémon. Compared to actually good animation and choreography like Mami vs homura this fight is lacking This fight was really nice . Especially sayaka catching her hand that was blown off but ignoring its flaws doesn't do it any favours |
| Wow what an absolutely worthless addition to the Madoka Magica franchise, the plot is nonsensical and completely disregards the events of the main story, it has no respect for it at all, every character in this is just insanely boring, Urobuchi must be despairing watching these people massacre his work. What a shame, I could barely watch this to the end, every episode felt like an hour. 4/10 |
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Hatsuyuki said: Wow what an absolutely worthless addition to the Madoka Magica franchise, the plot is nonsensical and completely disregards the events of the main story, it has no respect for it at all, every character in this is just insanely boring, Urobuchi must be despairing watching these people massacre his work. What a shame, I could barely watch this to the end, every episode felt like an hour. 4/10 Are you telling me this is a bad anime because it took them 12 episodes to get the plot started ?? Jokes aside I agree. There are some really cool ideas in this anime but it has more structural issues then side quests The end of this anime should have been reached within 3 episodes Besides that there are innumerable issues with its story and structure |
Yuhani said: CuteAssTiger said: Compared to actually good animation and choreography like Mami vs homura this fight is lacking Are you comparing a film with a TV series? im comparing animation to animation even if we step down a little the choreography wasnt good. |
| What a big plot twist... and this turned into Yuri quickly between Yachiyo x Tamaki (not my kind of boat). I liked this side story so far but this last episode left me in doubt with so many questions x_x It really can't end like this! So my score are between 6-7 out of 10. Wasn't expecting this kind of ending to be honest... I really hope Season 2 gets better, if there really will be second season that is. |
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starrynights989 said: faeryghost said: The fight against Holy Mami was absolutely hilarious to me! So over-the-top and insane. I wouldn't necessarily say it was a "good" fight scene, but it was fun to watch. I suppose it was better directed than the previous few fights we've seen, but it still left a lot to be desired from me. Also did anyone else scream when Sayaka's arm freaking FLEW off because of Mami's tiro finale?? That was such a nice touch; it might be my favourite moment of the whole show purely due to how unexpected it was... Yea I didn't find the fight good either though baffling and ridiculous. Sayaka came off a little overpowered too. I totally agree. Sayaka was never a very skilled magical girl from what we saw in the original series; she was only ever strong in Rebellion thanks to being one of Goddess Madoka's "angels," essentially. It's hard to believe that the same girl who struggled so much against Kyoko could withstand an attack from Holy Mami. |
| I think this episode fully illustrates the anime's strength when it's not being bound too tightly by the source material; I understand they needed to follow the structure to get everybody and all the elements introduced, but the show really suffered by being an abridged version of events. The rather major rewrites to this chapter definitely helped it by taking real advantage of the medium, rather than being held back by the limitations of a VN. I find it interesting that Rena tried to leave in the middle of the speech, even with Momoko staying. That circle instantly and quietly forming to help Kaede keep her there was a little surprising(even if Kaede stopping Rena itself wasn't); I do like the touch of the closeup of Kaede's face, as if to confirm she's doing this of her own free will, rather than by simple brainwashing. The lack of White Feathers anywhere in the episode was odd. After Sayaka showed up, I kept waiting for time to freeze and Homura to show up, but it's probably for the best that they didn't. Now that we know they've had a second season in the works, they can introduce Homura and Madoka at a more leisurely pace. Genoard said: Other than the tail becoming a melee weapon, I didn't notice any change. Campanella is meant to resemble a ticket punch(an oblique reference to the Sanzu River), so her arms end up having two points to them(which I suppose can look like extra legs if you're not looking closely).The decision to change Yachiyo's doppel to have her grow an extra set of arms is questionable, seriously, why? Also, what the hell was that blue dot in Iroha's soul gem? I got the impression it was meant to be Yachiyo(notice how it showed up only after Yachiyo fell to her doom). Iroha's magia has the power to revive fallen comrades, though I suppose there's really no clean way to represent that with the rules of the universe.Monochrosanity said: This isn't Mami's doppel(which is positively adorable); this is a completely different form with its own doppel(and represented in-game with a separate unit).Can’t wait for next season. Mami’s doppel form and Wings of Magius size, they’re much bigger than I expected. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy the shit out of this. _MushiRock11_ said: They actually do show her:I don't think I caught Futaba so hopefully she is, at least, safe.  |
DLSUalpha009 said: Yeah a lot of confusing stuff for me as someone who is new to this franchise. Actually I only got into this franchise because of TrySail hehe (since it rarely happens where all three girls are in the same show) . Sometimes, I wonder if I made the right decision..........but what the heck, I have already seen it so might as well go along with it. No, you most certainly did not. I seriously can't wrap my head around the idea of why someone would just blindly dive into a spin-off without having watched the original series first. You do know that spin-offs normally operate under the assumption that you've watched the original beforehand and therefore have all the necessary context in order to avoid confusion, right? Anyway, good job ruining most of the fantastic original series' biggest revelations for yourself *thumbs up* |
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Polycell said: _MushiRock11 said: They actually do show her:I don't think I caught Futaba so hopefully she is, at least, safe. Ah right, there she is, thanks. |
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Snowbodyknows said: Gar_Logan said: This show makes like no sense... That's crude for a statement, there are many questions that are to be answered in the second half of the series, next season we'll get an explanation about the rumors and who is behind them, why Walpurgisnacht is involved in this, the whereabouts of Ui, and Kuroe's relevance in the story. Yeah, I just think that is kind of a problem if I watch 13 episodes of a series and don't have a clear idea about what is going on. Even beyond the main mysteries/intrigues of the story arc, episode-to-episode story threads get picked up then dropped or ignored, and fight scenes are often just chaotic. |
Gar_Logan said: you're judging 1/2 of a story. each arc built off the last. maybe rewatch it to understand a bit more because its not going to be spoonfed to u. Snowbodyknows said: That's crude for a statement, there are many questions that are to be answered in the second half of the series, next season we'll get an explanation about the rumors and who is behind them, why Walpurgisnacht is involved in this, the whereabouts of Ui, and Kuroe's relevance in the story. Yeah, I just think that is kind of a problem if I watch 13 episodes of a series and don't have a clear idea about what is going on. Even beyond the main mysteries/intrigues of the story arc, episode-to-episode story threads get picked up then dropped or ignored, and fight scenes are often just chaotic. |
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