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Mar 21, 2020 7:18 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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First six episodes were released on Netflix in Japan on March 21.

plot slowed down again, instead this episode created some space for Michiru's character development, as she regains her human form by recalling memories of the past. yet after what happened with Nino, Michiru decides to stay a little longer in Anima City, sympathizing with the beastmen...

...and also because she owes Ogami money...

also the part where Flip executed one of the beastmen was pretty brutal and caught me off guard for a second. first on screen (kinda) death iirc
Mar 22, 2020 5:49 PM
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Great episode, looks like Michiru can go back to her human form and to her animal form again, Nina the dolphin was cute but she almost got killed in the aquarium...
Seems like Michiru's mom still think of her, I hope she will be able to see her parents again
Mar 22, 2020 8:24 PM
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This kinda made me sad, but also i feel like the humans are kinda dumb lol. like, how did her social network perceive her disappearance? Like, did she just stop showing up to school one day? But like, they're still celebrating her bday so...
Also, who tf doesnt know that a dolphin is a mammal? I excuse this one by assuming the girl was drunk lol. but also like, don't those tanks usually have openings on top? sry, im getting off track on anime logic.
Overall i rly enjoyed it and im curious to see how what role the blond guy at the end will play in the whole thing. Definitely gonna be a highlight this season... assuming the remaining episodes don't drop within the next week or so.
Mar 22, 2020 11:52 PM
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Michiru can change to her human form now

so Shiro is immortal and Michiru is really a shape shifter
Mar 23, 2020 12:13 AM
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EYYY SHE CAN FINALLY TURN BACK.

But damn, I get serious trust issues when it comes to this show. Can't trust anyone besides the mayor, and our MCs.
Mar 23, 2020 12:25 AM
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Another great episode

Nina is naive tho, but I like her. I wonder if she’s gonna play an important role later on or not
I totally knew something was about to happen the moment they got to the party. I don’t think that Lisa had bad intentions, but omg how dumb can you be lmao
Mar 23, 2020 2:42 AM
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So she finally tried changing back to your human form, I wondered if she even tried in the first place before that, also she always ends up in these bad situations, but I guess it's natural for someone to be adventurous like they are exploring something new.
Mar 23, 2020 7:02 AM
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Great music and touching plot! She can turn back. Love Nina
Mar 23, 2020 11:34 AM
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she bought a phone with vpn and first thing she does is login to Facebook
Mar 23, 2020 7:25 PM

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Not_Much said:

Also, who tf doesnt know that a dolphin is a mammal? I excuse this one by assuming the girl was drunk lol.


Especially since they have pool (I know that dolphins need salt water but still), I was expecting that it was sick prank go wrong but this looks like just genuine mistake (aka "drinking too much" symbolism), and these apathetic reactions from people... it really looked these people didn't wanted to help her. :/

From episode to ep my score is becoming lower. And by just animation alone I think I will stay with 7/10.
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Mar 24, 2020 6:45 AM

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Michiru, having missed the Medical Centre's chance of research, Mayor Mary instead offers her citizenship under Beastmen law.

The gang leader Flip and Shirou have amiable relationships, though one with precaution. And the first death...not quite gruesome but is worth noting.

Michiru's next "mission" involving her coincidence with Nina the dolphin daughter of Flip, through social media is quite the frenzy. And she's finally able to change into her human form, succeeding after not being able to the past few episodes. The same power she harnesses now will be the centrifugal force to reckon with as embezzlement is concerned in the fight of good and evil.

With their human forms, entering a poignantly human beastman cosplay party reeks a red herring from Michiru. We'd thought dolphins can breathe, but the misconception is found here and Michiru ends up saving her life.

More setup with the overarching plot slowly growing.
Mar 24, 2020 3:18 PM

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Looks like she can turn back after all.

I wondered how the wolf guy survived that huge fall last episode. Well, it seems like he has an immortal body, or something like that

Overall, great episode, just like the previous ones. Currently my rating is 9/10, I hope this quality keeps up
Mar 27, 2020 2:55 AM
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This episode was dead eye on point - those pro-animal human activists do more harm than good. Just like in real life. I don't know what kind of social message this show tries to relay but i like the way it's doing.

Explanation behind Michiru's nature looks like going to be along the lines of "Genetics, son".

The blonde scientist guy doesn't seem to know about Michiru, so he might not be the mastermind behind her transformation. 3rd party then. That's intriguing!
Mar 29, 2020 7:43 AM

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The plot advances towards the next stage! Michiru seems to be able to turn back by accident, but at a time when she became very emotional about returning home.

I hope Nina is someone she has befriended now and perhaps we'll see her return.

Going back to the Humans was a dangerous thing in the first place, but I do believe what happened at that party was just an unfortunate accident! This Lisa girl really looked like she felt really bad for what she did! There's hope!
Mar 31, 2020 12:15 PM

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I can't be the only one recognizing all the BGM...
eg:WORLD ORDER - ONE STEP FORWARD
EP4 - timecode 10:52
This series, money well spent.
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Apr 6, 2020 9:21 PM

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Ohhhh!! BNA give me an answer! I ask in Beastars discussion forum on what will be the end result if Legosi (wolf) and Haru (rabbit) get together lol

Nina's form is cute!! Michiru should inform her parents that she's okay. I feel sad for her Mama 😞
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Apr 7, 2020 5:11 AM

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GX5000 said:
eg:WORLD ORDER - ONE STEP FORWARD
EP4 - timecode 10:52

I don't think it's the same song (plus it's not mentioned anywhere in the credits), but wow boy do I LOVE World Order (and Genki Sudo in general).
Apr 7, 2020 8:23 AM
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This ep was a lot more real-world
Apr 7, 2020 1:46 PM

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frozenpandaman said:
GX5000 said:
eg:WORLD ORDER - ONE STEP FORWARD
EP4 - timecode 10:52

I don't think it's the same song (plus it's not mentioned anywhere in the credits), but wow boy do I LOVE World Order (and Genki Sudo in general).

It is, Listen not even closely and you'll hear it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMcTRiAq2Y4 timecode 0:28
EP4 - timecode 10:52
I'm not saying WO did the tune, it's just probably "Inspired" from...lol
Lots of things never make it to the Credits, like cameos from Hiroshi Kamiya, among other things :)
Sad that Genki Sudo decided to leave and become a Politician...
We can only hope the rest of the group carry on :(
Cheers dude.

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Apr 8, 2020 2:54 AM

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Nice Michiru was finally able to turn back into her human form again and she wasn't that annoying in this episode. That last part was sad, Michiru's mom made a cake for her birthday but she wasn't there with her parents to celebrate it.
Apr 8, 2020 2:59 AM

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Listen not even closely and you'll hear it...

It's similar but not 100% the same song, or even pitch, etc. I'm also unable to find any other mention of it online (in either Japanese or English) and it'd be odd if, if this were the case, for absolutely *no one* to pick up on it. So I'm still guessing this connection isn't right, unfortunately, despite the similarities.

Anyway… I JUST LEARNT of him actually becoming a politician (holy shit) after your post – somehow missed the news – and it pretty much made my year. His work in World Order was pretty amazing (not to mention his MMA fighting entrances) and I knew he had recently stepped into a more directorial/producing role for the group, but this isn't too surprising (but sort of amazing and hilarious too) and seems like a natural step for him – he's still staying true to himself and his message and is now, in his mind, the best way of doing some good stuff in the world. I'm really happy for him.

"In Sudo’s main projects in life, there was some crossover. As an MMA fighter, he found himself to be an entertainer as much as he was an athlete. As an entertainer, he found himself venturing into deeper political meanings behind entertainment. And as a politician, he carries a saying that he has used from the very start: 'WE ARE ALL ONE.'"
(via https://lwos.life/2019/07/24/many-hats-of-genki-sudo/)
Apr 8, 2020 9:40 AM

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frozenpandaman said:
GX5000 said:
Listen not even closely and you'll hear it...

he carries a saying that he has used from the very start: 'WE ARE ALL ONE.'"
(via https://lwos.life/2019/07/24/many-hats-of-genki-sudo/)


Yes, but that's very easy for someone from a homogeneous society to say.
I don't think he's being naïve, he's just playing another role...
He's so young too, 42...
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Apr 8, 2020 10:29 AM

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Going back to the Humans was a dangerous thing in the first place, but I do believe what happened at that party was just an unfortunate accident! This Lisa girl really looked like she felt really bad for what she did! There's hope!


I'm not so sure about that.

Nina was obviously in distress, it's not hard to translate "I can't breathe!"
And yet, not one person went to help her? Not only that, when Michiru was trying to help her, nobody went to help, nobody showed her the opening for the tank.

Even after the two got out, nobody did a thing to help either of them. They all just watched and shrugged.
I think there are those who are ultra-violent against the beastmen, but there is another kind of prejudice too that we saw here, where people are just indifferent, ignorant, or both. They feel as if the beastmen are just animals or oddities, like the ones you see at the zoo or aquarium. You like them, you see them have fun and enjoy it, but if one dies in their tank, you just feel a little sad and then go on with your day.

I think that's what we saw here.
Apr 8, 2020 3:35 PM

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Irenesharda said:
CeddyyBearr said:

Going back to the Humans was a dangerous thing in the first place, but I do believe what happened at that party was just an unfortunate accident! This Lisa girl really looked like she felt really bad for what she did! There's hope!


I'm not so sure about that.

Nina was obviously in distress, it's not hard to translate "I can't breathe!"
And yet, not one person went to help her? Not only that, when Michiru was trying to help her, nobody went to help, nobody showed her the opening for the tank.

Even after the two got out, nobody did a thing to help either of them. They all just watched and shrugged.
I think there are those who are ultra-violent against the beastmen, but there is another kind of prejudice too that we saw here, where people are just indifferent, ignorant, or both. They feel as if the beastmen are just animals or oddities, like the ones you see at the zoo or aquarium. You like them, you see them have fun and enjoy it, but if one dies in their tank, you just feel a little sad and then go on with your day.

I think that's what we saw here.


You can easily just make some headcanon that they were too drunk, confused or shocked to react, so not that bad. The girl clearly felt bad about her mistake.
Apr 10, 2020 7:36 PM

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Not gonna lie, Michiru looks cuter as a tanuki rather than as human.

Honestly, can't decide who is dumber here: Michiru for thinking there wouldn't be any problem, Nina for being so unrealistically naive or that host chick who thought it was okay to trap her guest in a tank.

Overall, I wasn't really convinced by the narrative but it wasn't exactly a bad episode in the end. Just average.
Apr 12, 2020 4:57 PM
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I was kinda confused by what was happening with the tank thing.;; Some people are saying they were too drunk to understand what what going on... or really
I think they were also trying to get across the idea that as it is now, beastmen and humans just can't stay together even if they accept each other-- further emphasized by what the girls in the bathroom said. I think they were trying to get that across, but perhaps there was a different way to go about it.
Still, nice episode.

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Apr 15, 2020 11:54 PM
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I was kinda confused by what was happening with the tank thing.;; Some people are saying they were too drunk to understand what what going on... or really
I think they were also trying to get across the idea that as it is now, beastmen and humans just can't stay together even if they accept each other-- further emphasized by what the girls in the bathroom said. I think they were trying to get that across, but perhaps there was a different way to go about it.
Still, nice episode.


I think you're right. That part of the scene was showing while there wasn't necessarily malice between beastmen and humans, they don't really understand what each other need. Even if she was an actual dolphin, they need air too since they are mammals.

In conclusion, not sure if the party girl was misinformed, or just dumb.
Apr 17, 2020 1:10 AM
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That tank scene was confusing as hell.
Apr 18, 2020 12:15 PM

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I was also confused by the tank scene. I thought the people were going to kill Nina or protest when Michiru broke the tank but they just stood there like they were too high.

Nina was kind of annoying but I understand that she was bored being stuck in Animacity and wanted to try something new. Well, she got her wish. I wonder if her appearance on social media in the human mainland would cause tension between them.

Still curious about obvious blonde villain. He needs more screentime.
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Apr 23, 2020 11:59 AM

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This was a really good episode. It was like a character development ep for Michiru. All she wanted was to return but changed her mind. My view of her changed, but I still find her annoying sometimes but let's see with the next episodes.
Apr 24, 2020 12:04 PM

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The setting is getting more serious now, main theme is the discrimination between humans and beastmen.
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Apr 29, 2020 2:29 PM

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Lmao the writing in this show is so stupid it just makes me laugh.
Apr 29, 2020 10:35 PM

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Oh, Michiru now steals from another people too. Seriously, she has all the bad traits a MC could have.

I felt kinda bad for that Kusakabe guy tbh He seemed like the kind of character who could become a good comic relief with a good redemption previously.
May 1, 2020 6:01 AM

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Michiru was able to transform back into her human form, huh? I wasn't expecting that to happen so soon. ^_^;

Either way, it's good that she can transform back to her old self, but I did enjoy her time with Nina. despite being the daughter of that gangster, Flip, she's really sweet. Eventually, both girls made the boat trip to the nearby human town so that they could attend a party, which Nina was invited to.

I was expecting something nasty to happen when Nina transformed into her beast form by accident, but the partygoers weren't too bothered by this at all. However, they did seem to be dumb, though, as when Nina got tired, she was placed in a separate tank of water, thinking that she could breathe underwater. Talk about idiotic. >.<

Either way, I liked this episode overall. The cake made my Michiru's mother at the end was a rather emotional moment, I must say. =3
May 1, 2020 9:09 PM

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Ok, it was just development for Michiru, I think she and Nina became friends, so it could lead to an interesting relationship. So Michiru is different, well, we already knew that, she can stretch her arms, glow and… wait, is that the gum-gum fruit. Nina is a pretty girl, but knowing his father’s job, she could expect a lot from what humans can do, she just needs to be careful. Flip killing someone and Shirou being unable to help him, that was rude.
May 6, 2020 5:10 AM

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Nice episode.

I liked the beastman science at the beginning, the focus on Michiru and her friendship with Nina. Also got reminded again how far we're away from proper coexistence. The miscommunication at the party was kinda disturbing.

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May 9, 2020 12:48 AM

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Episode not as engaging as I expected, but that conveys a great lesson for the message that can be read between the lines of the narrative. I wait for the next episode hoping that the story will advance with more intriguing topics.
May 11, 2020 1:51 AM

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Finally, more answers that were much needed. They explain how Beastmen can change into their human form and vice versa but still do not explain how humans can detect them if they are in human form. Looks like that the girl was drunk or misinformed by putting Nina in a tank, my issue is that this situation felt anticlimactic, without any anticipation. How did she get there? it's one of the many mysteries in this episode.

It was obvious that there was going to be trouble and I'm surprised that the mayor would not prefer to have Michiru in custody due to her rare condition rather than being able to leave and enter the city whenever she wanted.

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May 12, 2020 1:18 AM
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Now Michiru just learnt how to changed to human form. Idk if that was a good move or bad by her. But at least, she just befriended with the sister of Animacity Gangstar really fun to watch. Yet, the explanations about gen of beastmen just reveal here, and like i say previously, Michiru, and Ogami might be the real some Brand New Animal referring Sylvasta statements. Despite naives personality Michiru had, which is somehow irked me, and most of the audience, her adventure toward beastmen lives and Ogami actions must be better on the future episodes.
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May 19, 2020 5:24 AM

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predictable episode but at least Michiru got some character developement here. i also liked the part where they tried to explain the biological factors of a beast-human even if it was VERY superficial. the show itself still feels like a dull adventure and could not really hook me up.

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May 30, 2020 6:52 PM

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The tank scene was so bad
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...and one character almost died, because some people didn't know that dolphins are not fish 😒
Jul 4, 2020 4:08 AM

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The tank scene was really poorly done. Michiru goes to bathroom and in short time she was there they already managed to shove and seal here in the tank. No wonder so many (including me) were confused by the scene.
Jul 13, 2020 4:27 PM

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I love nostalgic moments aura where Michiru remembers her best friend >\\\\<
Jul 14, 2020 10:09 AM

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So, Michiru can change back into a human again. But, can she do it at will?

Also, the evil blonde guy is closing in soon, it appears.

Jul 15, 2020 9:21 AM

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Nina is a cutie, albeit sheltered and naive. The tank scene had me confused, but at first I thought it was done maliciously, but the host girl did seem like she felt bad so..

It's cool that Michiru can transform (at will?) now. She is so adventurous (aka always getting into trouble lmao).
Jul 19, 2020 10:02 PM
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im surprised they didn't talk about her being able to change to human form more
Jul 23, 2020 2:26 PM

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I like the fact that Michiru makes friends like Nina, and also that she can return to her human form.
It is good that the creators of this anime not only make Michiru the protagonist because yes, it is good that they present their concerns and their mental state, as when in the end he sees and ends up reading the message from his mother.
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I like the fact that Michiru makes friends like Nina, and also that she can return to her human form.
It is good that the creators of this anime not only make Michiru the protagonist because yes, it is good that they present their concerns and their mental state, as when in the end he sees and ends up reading the message from his mother.
Sometimes otakus are rejected by society, so I discovered that it is much better to be an
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