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HereticHunter said: xZabuzax said: To be fair, the main character couldn't cut that demon either with his sword. The sword is not the issue here, it's the wielder. You can give a Hashira that serrated sword and they would be able to cut that same demon like butter easily because they are stronger and more skilled than them. Tanjiro was excused because he wasn't skilled enough. And no, no matter how strong you are, serrated blades doesn't work that way, you'll still have the risk of getting your sword stuck in anything and be vulnerable. It's the same dilemma with big ass swords, it's not about the strength, it's about the weight . But that's another story. ExaltedChampion said: It more like cause he don't know about Shinobu. New Breath Styles got invented each new generation of slayer to fit more to the person using it. Urokodaki is retired so he couple generation before Shinobu. Many of the current pillars use styles that are off-shoot of older styles( Sound is lightning off-shoot, Mist is Wind off-shoot, Love is Flame off-shoot, Snake and Flower is Water off-shoot while Insect is Flower off-shoot.) The writer may have as well never stated that the only way to kill demons was to behead them if he was going to break this rule later trying to make cool characters. It's not what Urokodaki said, is what the writer does wrong. Mod edit: fixed double posting He didnt break the rule... the rule is born from the knowledge of people, it's not some absolute rule provided by the god of the verse. Shinobu "breaking" the rule is made precisely to show her awesomeness, not because the author was bothered by the rules lol. The point is that She has managed to find a third way to kill demons when there had been only two known ways for the last 200 centuries. Kind of like there was only one way to go overseas:the boat(well 2 with swimming if you're an athlete). And then some 130000 years later, someone invented the plane. As for Rui, there can be debate over if it was a good choice. Did it really undermine so much the emotional pay off and did the conservation of the power level consistency was worth it? It can be discussed but in any case, there is no "bullshit" whatsoever. |
| Great episode! Loved the part when Tanjirou, Zenitsu and Inosuke were training and Kanao was just looking at them and probably thinking "those crazy boys" xD Basically boys vs girls training ahahaha So Tanjirou mastered the technique, i wonder if Shinobu didn't know anything about his breathing technique or she just didn't want to tell him. Shinobu is so cuteeeee! Finally, we got Kanao's backstory, a little bit sad childhood. That's why she never talks. I wonder if she will fall for Tanjirou or not xD New demon, wonder if he is one of 12. Can't wait to see Tanjirou in a real fight now! Since he is much stronger physically and learned some new techniques. The ED is so good! This scene is so pretty.  |
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WiselyKamelot said: HereticHunter said: Tanjiro was excused because he wasn't skilled enough. And no, no matter how strong you are, serrated blades doesn't work that way, you'll still have the risk of getting your sword stuck in anything and be vulnerable. It's the same dilemma with big ass swords, it's not about the strength, it's about the weight . But that's another story. The writer may have as well never stated that the only way to kill demons was to behead them if he was going to break this rule later trying to make cool characters. It's not what Urokodaki said, is what the writer does wrong. Mod edit: fixed double posting He didnt break the rule... the rule is born from the knowledge of people, it's not some absolute rule provided by the god of the verse. Shinobu "breaking" the rule is made precisely to show her awesomeness, not because the author was bothered by the rules lol. I did not say he was bothered by the rules, I said he breaks his own rules. You are basically proving me right: that the writer broke his own rule in order to make an awesome character. The problem with this is, that such a thing being revealed after a long time will make it look like it came out of nowhere, in other words an asspull. Now, it wouldn't be an asspull if it had a proper build up, but it didn't. |
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HereticHunter said: it's not a rule it's a belief,knowledge of people aren't rule so your critic is invalid and doesn't make sense,and btw it was stated since the beginning that wisteria isn't good for demons,and the poison only worked because that demon was weak,with stronger demons the poison can stop them for 5-10 seconds at best.WiselyKamelot said: He didnt break the rule... the rule is born from the knowledge of people, it's not some absolute rule provided by the god of the verse. Shinobu "breaking" the rule is made precisely to show her awesomeness, not because the author was bothered by the rules lol. I did not say he was bothered by the rules, I said he breaks his own rules. You are basically proving me right: that the writer broke his own rule in order to make an awesome character. The problem with this is, that such a thing being revealed after a long time will make it look like it came out of nowhere, in other words an asspull. Now, it wouldn't be an asspull if it had a proper build up, but it didn't. |
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matehuos said: Anyone knows which chapter of the manga is the anime now? Its a little more complicated than usual as they skipped around in this episode. They did the rest(2nd half) of chapter 50. 1st half of 51. All of 59.5(changing the end picture naturally but what it implies is still the same). A little bit of 53. I didn't put this in the exact order in which they occurred but I think you get the picture. So if you needed some starting point, I would just say start with Chapter 51. |
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nanashi796 said: HereticHunter said: it's not a rule it's a belief,knowledge of people aren't rule so your critic is invalid and doesn't make sense,and btw it was stated since the beginning that wisteria isn't good for demons,and the poison only worked because that demon was weak,with stronger demons the poison can stop them for 5-10 seconds at best.I did not say he was bothered by the rules, I said he breaks his own rules. You are basically proving me right: that the writer broke his own rule in order to make an awesome character. The problem with this is, that such a thing being revealed after a long time will make it look like it came out of nowhere, in other words an asspull. Now, it wouldn't be an asspull if it had a proper build up, but it didn't. I must be extremely blind or clueless since I don't ever remember anyone mentioning or using poison until Shinobu used it to massively wreck a demon. I'm not talking about rule of knowledge or whatever anyone says on this anime. I'm talking about plot writing. The problem is, that for many episodes the only way seen to kill off a demon for good was to behead them or them dying at the sunlight, it became a canon rule for many episodes. Most kills shown so far are from beheading, it feels off when now suddenly a character appears and massively wrecks a demon using poison. Yes, this can be justified either by Shinobu's style, lack of strength or whatever other plot point that hasn't been shown yet, but that still doesn't change that it feels like the author broke his own rule, making an exception, to create a cool character. |
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HereticHunter said: nanashi796 said: it's not a rule it's a belief,knowledge of people aren't rule so your critic is invalid and doesn't make sense,and btw it was stated since the beginning that wisteria isn't good for demons,and the poison only worked because that demon was weak,with stronger demons the poison can stop them for 5-10 seconds at best. I must be extremely blind or clueless since I don't ever remember anyone mentioning or using poison until Shinobu used it to massively wreck a demon. I'm not talking about rule of knowledge or whatever anyone says on this anime. I'm talking about plot writing. The problem is, that for many episodes the only way seen to kill off a demon for good was to behead them or them dying at the sunlight, it became a canon rule for many episodes. Most kills shown so far are from beheading, it feels off when now suddenly a character appears and massively wrecks a demon using poison. Yes, this can be justified either by Shinobu's style, lack of strength or whatever other plot point that hasn't been shown yet, but that still doesn't change that it feels like the author broke his own rule, making an exception, to create a cool character. But there is no absolute rule established here though? It's a common knowledge passed around from generation to generation. It's already mentioned early in the series that demons hate wisteria (well the fodder demons that is) so it's not even that far-fetched for someone of pharmaceutical expertise like Shinobu to start experimenting on it especially given her own shortcomings as a swordsman. Even then, the poison isn't even that helpful in the end and the most preferred method will always be beheading as shown in later arcs. |
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Tohsaka_Rukia said: HereticHunter said: I must be extremely blind or clueless since I don't ever remember anyone mentioning or using poison until Shinobu used it to massively wreck a demon. I'm not talking about rule of knowledge or whatever anyone says on this anime. I'm talking about plot writing. The problem is, that for many episodes the only way seen to kill off a demon for good was to behead them or them dying at the sunlight, it became a canon rule for many episodes. Most kills shown so far are from beheading, it feels off when now suddenly a character appears and massively wrecks a demon using poison. Yes, this can be justified either by Shinobu's style, lack of strength or whatever other plot point that hasn't been shown yet, but that still doesn't change that it feels like the author broke his own rule, making an exception, to create a cool character. But there is no absolute rule established here though? . Back to the very first episodes, ALL Tanjiro's Training with that huge ass rock was to make him understand WHERE and HOW he had to cut in order to kill demons. It was a thing that got repeated SEVERAL TIMES as a rule in order to kill demons. That was until Shinobu happened, and then, if this poison isn't even that strong, then Shinobu ends up being a very questionable character, specially considering that she's among the Hashiras. |
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| This episode reminds me of the beginning of Zoldyck arc in HxH 2011 when they trained to open the behemoth door. Some things are changed and expanded here but I think they did it a lot better in KnY because it makes more sense to see Inosuke and Zenitsu trained before Tanjirou complete his training unlike in the Manga |
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| The three little minion is so cute !! Tanjirou made it!! Nothing is impossible when you persevere :) Girls in KNY is all good and OP. I hope mangaka don't make annoying guy characters anymore (only Tanjirou/Tomioka is the exception) and this anime will be masterpiece! 8/10 for me because of some annoying guys. |
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| With the exception of that kinda random flashback for emotionless girl, this was a really fun, lighthearted episode. We've finally wrapped up everyone's training and Tanjiro is looking to be a lot stronger. It was pretty fun to watch Zenitsu and Inosuke realize they were being left behind in terms of skill. Shinobu really knew how to motivate them as well. That last demon was pretty creepy looking. |
HereticHunter said: Back to the very first episodes, ALL Tanjiro's Training with that huge ass rock was to make him understand WHERE and HOW he had to cut in order to kill demons. It was a thing that got repeated SEVERAL TIMES as a rule in order to kill demons. That was until Shinobu happened, and then, if this poison isn't even that strong, then Shinobu ends up being a very questionable character, specially considering that she's among the Hashiras. BECAUSE it's the most effective way to kill a demon and it will ALWAYS be the most preferred method of doing so that's why all demon slayers are trained to do it. Every fight with the demons later all end up in beheading. It's still not an absolute rule. Shinobu just worked around it to compensate for her own weakness and discovered a new method of killing demons. Shinobu is the weakest among the Hashiras but she has other uses that greatly benefit the organization since she's a pharmaceutical expert and the head of the demon corps' medical team. |
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| The jokes finally landed in this episode! That rarely happens in this anime. |
HereticHunter said: WiselyKamelot said: He didnt break the rule... the rule is born from the knowledge of people, it's not some absolute rule provided by the god of the verse. Shinobu "breaking" the rule is made precisely to show her awesomeness, not because the author was bothered by the rules lol. I did not say he was bothered by the rules, I said he breaks his own rules. You are basically proving me right: that the writer broke his own rule in order to make an awesome character. The problem with this is, that such a thing being revealed after a long time will make it look like it came out of nowhere, in other words an asspull. Now, it wouldn't be an asspull if it had a proper build up, but it didn't. But you're the one that assumed that it was an absolute rule provided by the narrative... as far as we know it's just info based on Urokodaki's knowledge. He is knowledgeable due to his experience but there is no telling that his knowledge has limits. It's like when we are told Muzan is the only one who can make demons and then we learn that the medic girl can as well. There is no rule broken, the rule is only an assessement from knowledge... just like in real life. We are told that a demon cant escape Muzan curse... but it is totally possible that some demon somewhere has a way to resist it. Btw, I read volume 1 a few days ago and in the same chapter we learn about the ways to kill demons, we see an abstract of Shinobu. I wouldnt be surprised if this third way to kill demons was planned at the same moment we were told there is only 2. |
WiselyKamelot said: Btw, I read volume 1 a few days ago and in the same chapter we learn about the ways to kill demons, we see an abstract of Shinobu. I wouldnt be surprised if this third way to kill demons was planned at the same moment we were told there is only 2. What, Shinobu appears in the first chapters eh? did Ufo skip that because I don't really remember any Hashira with the exception of Giyuu at the beginning (which I almost end up forgetting until he appeared in ep 18-20) |
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Tohsaka_Rukia said: HereticHunter said: Back to the very first episodes, ALL Tanjiro's Training with that huge ass rock was to make him understand WHERE and HOW he had to cut in order to kill demons. It was a thing that got repeated SEVERAL TIMES as a rule in order to kill demons. That was until Shinobu happened, and then, if this poison isn't even that strong, then Shinobu ends up being a very questionable character, specially considering that she's among the Hashiras. BECAUSE it's the most effective way to kill a demon and it will ALWAYS be the most preferred method of doing so that's why all demon slayers are trained to do it. Every fight with the demons later all end up in beheading. It's still not an absolute rule. Shinobu just worked around it to compensate for her own weakness and discovered a new method of killing demons. It did feel like a rule to me, not in the way of common knowledge as the most efficient method, but as established by the author. But well, if this poison isn't that effective then alright, I'll give you that. |
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| I was waiting to see Inosuke chip his new swords animated. Didn't disappoint. |
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HereticHunter said: WiselyKamelot said: Btw, I read volume 1 a few days ago and in the same chapter we learn about the ways to kill demons, we see an abstract of Shinobu. I wouldnt be surprised if this third way to kill demons was planned at the same moment we were told there is only 2. What, Shinobu appears in the first chapters eh? did Ufo skip that because I don't really remember any Hashira with the exception of Giyuu at the beginning (which I almost end up forgetting until he appeared in ep 18-20) Probably yeah, I dont remember it either from the anime. We have Tanjiro writing in a notebook what he learned about slayers and demons from Urokodaki and in the background we see Giyu, Shinobu and the snake pillar. |
| i enjoyed this episode. too bad there is only one left. the demon in the end was pretty ugly. watching Tanjiro doing his best and succeding gives me motivation. I know he is a fictional character but still. |
| I'm glad Tanjiro improved his skills, and that the three of them are now ready for action again. Glad to see Kanao's past too and Shinobu's big sister. Looks like they're going to encounter a strong demon next episode. Can't wait. The training part amuses me and cute moments with Shinobu and Kanao, I'm gonna miss this show once it ends. |
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cat666god said: How is this season supposed to end in one episode? it feels like a while new arc is starting. They need to start a new arc so they can leave us with a huge cliffhanger until season 2 |
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| Oh my god, Kanao </3. Why do every character here had a traumatic past ~ |
cat666god said: How is this season supposed to end in one episode? it feels like a while new arc is starting. It is the start of a new arc. They're just gonna leave us with a cliffhanger until season 2 comes maybe next year. |
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| Glad that Tanjirou was able to get the techniques properly. Glad they showed Kanao's backstory; its cute |
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| They added backstory for Kanao, kinda cute and feel bad to see her and also Shinobu's sister. But what i thinking more rn is... so, demon train as the ending? damn it im not ready ;________; |
| I hate how mainstream this has become and how big these discussion threads are now.... anyway, the TRAIN it's here |
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| So, Shinobu try to imitate her sister now lol. Wow, Kanao's past is really brutal. |
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Himawari9 said: Yuri-Crusader said: Nooooo anime!!!!!! Not heterosexuality!!!!Bad anime!!! They should be lesbians you dumb ass!!!! Oh well cant get lesbians in every anime i guess,,,,,,, More running around chasing each other and screaming ,,I'm sorry but i don't find that funny its just loud and irritating.But Jar Jar Binks didn't whine or cry witch was a huge plus Another tragic dramatic backstory!!!!Poor thing,, but its getting a bit much when every character have a traumatic sad past, Anime you are overdoing it!!! The first 15 episodes was great then you have just fallen apart!!! Action are your strongest card. Humour and drama is not, but obviously you dont care anymore!!! Sad to see, you have now 3/10 Im not impressed ,,,Better yourself and finish strong!!! Lesbians? Are you joking? Because that is the stupidest thing I heard anyone said about an action shounen. Save that for your Yuri anime without plot. I don't understand why you bother to watch this show to the end and rate it 3/10, 80% of the cast are males. Well, haters are gonna hate because this anime is popular. Its suffer from a lot of other problem as well ,, The male trio is the worst written set of characters i have ever witness , As i said in my post all they do is screaming and chase etch other around like idiots .I also see problem with the drama segment that have a tendency of being way over dramatic This episode was full of that ..Yuri without a plot? What the fuck do a homophobe like you knows about Yuri? They have plenty of plot, but this is not a Yuri and i dont expected anything like that .Lesbian thing i said was more a joke then being super serious .You chose to take a small portion of my post that was meant like a joke,But the rest is valid criticism ...I think this is a very overrated anime and this episode may be the worsted so far in my book,,That is not hate that is my opinion, In the end it may end up with a mediocre score. I love the action the demons, and the females are awesome ,So its not all bad |
Yuri-CrusaderSep 26, 2019 11:15 AM
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Yuri-Crusader said: Himawari9 said: Lesbians? Are you joking? Because that is the stupidest thing I heard anyone said about an action shounen. Save that for your Yuri anime without plot. I don't understand why you bother to watch this show to the end and rate it 3/10, 80% of the cast are males. Well, haters are gonna hate because this anime is popular. Its suffer from a lot of other problem as well ,, The male trio is the worst written set of characters i have ever witness , As i said in my post all they do is screaming and chase etch other around like idiots This episode was full of that shit..Yuri without a plot? What the fuck do a homophobe like you knows about Yuri? They have plenty of plot, but this is not a Yuri ...I think this is a very overrated anime and this episode was the worsted so far in my book,,That is not hate that is my opinion, But i dont think this anime is bad either i more see it as mediocre Yikes... what a typical reply. You're the one pushing your yuri agenda in a show that is clearly not yuri nor does it have any yuri undertones and then get mad when people call you out on your bullshit. Your posts so far have barely anything to do with the anime and all you ever talk about is yuri. Do you honestly believe people are gonna take you seriously? I mean if you really wanna see yuri then I don't know... maybe watch an actual yuri anime lmfao. |
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| Now we know more about Kano and her background. The Training was fun to watch as all of them trained together. |
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Tohsaka_Rukia said: Yuri-Crusader said: Its suffer from a lot of other problem as well ,, The male trio is the worst written set of characters i have ever witness , As i said in my post all they do is screaming and chase etch other around like idiots This episode was full of that shit..Yuri without a plot? What the fuck do a homophobe like you knows about Yuri? They have plenty of plot, but this is not a Yuri ...I think this is a very overrated anime and this episode was the worsted so far in my book,,That is not hate that is my opinion, But i dont think this anime is bad either i more see it as mediocre Yikes... what a typical reply. You're the one pushing your yuri agenda in a show that is clearly not yuri nor does it have any yuri undertones and then get mad when people call you out on your bullshit. Your posts so far have barely anything to do with the anime and all you ever talk about is yuri. Do you honestly believe people are gonna take you seriously? I mean if you really wanna see yuri then I don't know... maybe watch an actual yuri anime lmfao. Learn English before you come with stupid claims ,, I said they dont need to be lesbians!!!! Just because i like Yuri i dont demented everything to be Yuri , And i said that so better if a fanboy like you learn how to read before you address me!!!! Do you understand now? Or do i need to paint a fucking picture and send it to you????? |
Yuri-CrusaderSep 27, 2019 4:52 AM
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Yuri-Crusader said: Tohsaka_Rukia said: Yikes... what a typical reply. You're the one pushing your yuri agenda in a show that is clearly not yuri nor does it have any yuri undertones and then get mad when people call you out on your bullshit. Your posts so far have barely anything to do with the anime and all you ever talk about is yuri. Do you honestly believe people are gonna take you seriously? I mean if you really wanna see yuri then I don't know... maybe watch an actual yuri anime lmfao. Learn English before you come with stupid claims ,, I said they dont need to be lesbians!!!! Just because i like Yuri i dont demented everything to be Yuri , And i said that so better if a fanboy like you learn how to read before you address me!!!! Do you understand now? Or do i need to paint a fucking picture and send it to you????? You in every episode discussion: No the heteros are ruining this show! Where's my yuri at? Keep fooling yourself luv. |
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| Damn it I want season 2. This show is great. Definitely going on my blu ray shelf. |
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| I loved comedy bits in this episode. ;D Zenitsu and Inosuke want to keep on with Tanjiro. That's good, because there shouldn't be huge power gap between each of them if they are planning to adventure together. Kanao's backstory was so sad. I'm glad Shinobu and Kanae accidentally saw her on the bridge and decided to give her freedom. We also learned why she talks in a bizarre, monotonous way. It's all because of her trauma received back when she was a kid. :( I liked how those three girls rooted for Tanjiro during his training and trials on the way to master that constant breathing concentration technique. Last scene with Nezuko was cute, but what came later... woah, that demon really went berserk, lol. This episode is full of scenes contrary to each other, like i.e. earlier and mentioned in this post funny moment of training and later, in a blink of an eye, Kanao's backstory. Only one episode left. :(( |
Everyone is in good spirits again and Inosuke continues to not give a shit about proper demeanor, loved how the sword guy lost his shit when Inosuke kept beating his sword with a stone and it got even better when he went for his second sword lol  |
| just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it? |
| Fck.Now I love Shinobu.And that Nezuko speech at the end was kind of creepy. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Tanjiro's stepping up with his training and gaining strength! Definitely a future Pillar in the making! |
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| looks like this guy is our last demon of the season, he looks prettycool |
saengdao said: looks like this guy is our last demon of the season, he looks prettycool Fodder for their new skills? |
| ohh man Kanao x Tanjiro shipp |
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| They didn't show Tanjiro's sword I wonder if it still glows black. |
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| ara ara ars som1 is slowly falling for Tanjiro, when she had flashback in her flashback buttergly lady's sister said to her about her changing once u fall for some1 and then she looked at Tanjiro thst major flag |
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