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Pino-chan said: I am seriously concerned about people who think this anime normalizes taboos There are no panty shots, no explicit nudes (the baths scene were all censored by steam), the drama teacher is referred to as "disgusting", the kiss between Niina and him and was not show on screen and all his scenes are shown with creepy music and dark colors, obviously hinting him as a bad person, Milo knows a relationship with a minor would get him arrested and is clearly interested in his co-worker. You have to be blind or dumb to not understand or care about the context, maybe you thought this series was another light hearted romcom: it's not, it's about girls growing up and leaving their innocence behind, and there's nothing more normal than that. We all know that it's no innocent romcom anime but that's just too much exaggeration that it's becoming unrealistic and implausible with all that forced drama. Oh and by the way - don't try to argue with baseless hate on the people who have constructive criticism of the anime. How about you try to be more considerate of others opinions without being triggered? I already explained why I think that it normalizes and even romanticizes taboos, it's not my fault if you don't even understand my points but insist on your own opinion being the only right one. Stop being so petty. |
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iTitania_ said: We all know that it's no innocent romcom anime but that's just too much exaggeration that it's becoming unrealistic and implausible with all that forced drama. Oh and by the way - don't try to argue with baseless hate on the people who have constructive criticism of the anime. How about you try to be more considerate of others opinions without being triggered? I already explained why I think that it normalizes and even romanticizes taboos, it's not my fault if you don't even understand my points but insist on your own opinion being the only right one. Stop being so petty. Is it? the show is just protraying each of the girls as a different example of the process of growing up and getting into sex and relationships, but I don't see it being exagerated, of course there is drama (if everything was perfect it would be no show), but girls falling for older people? for a teacher? two friends falling for the same person? those things are extremely common and happen ALL the time (and the people in this show are aware of the consequences of it, no one is normalizing it, they are talking about something that happens all the time in real life -the drama teacher is portrayed as a very creepy person and even the characters of the show say it-, there is no fanservice, no panty shots or even a direct kiss scene...), I don't know where you see the "normalization of taboos", just go to any high school and you will find all that happening there. |
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amperevenon said: So here is the thing, i think momoko is gay. However the writing shows her to be a man hater. i know the dude she went out with was full of himself but there were moments when he was trying to be thoughtful and funny. Why does momoko feel so disgusted by that? I don't know if she is a poorly written lesbian, a man-hater or a lesbian man-hater. This series started out great but is now becoming meh. Maybe cuz i'm not a teenage or grown female to understand but there were some weird ass moments. I will do a complete review of this anime when it is finished. Because the guy is very odd... is it badly written? in real life it is the most common thing to be awkward when someone likes you and you don't like them back (even if they are good people) and rejecting the advances. Also the boy is protrayed as immature and too pushy |
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| I see people saying that Kazusa is "obsessed with boobs", but I think the message of this is completely different. Boobs are often used by girls as a tool of competition. They compare their chest to other girls, measure their worth by the size and quality of their breasts etc. In Kazusa's initial belief, her boobs were something shameful and now worth displaying or even thinking about. But later, her realization that "10 boobs are jiggling happily in one room, having fun", is actually quite interesting. Boobs don't have to be tools of competition and war between girls. Boobs can be "friends". No matter the size or shape. |
| Pedo is sexual relation with young child not with high school teenager |
| It appears that Niina is not at all as confident as she appears. Her confidence is totally dependent on the approval of that disgusting teacher. You can see it in her reaction when he tells her not to become "boring". That's obviously the key word here as that's what he tells anyone he's displeased with. I'm sure he's broken her down to the point where she can only rely on his judgement and that's why she keeps coming back. You see in the previous scene that he treats all the children that way. I want to see her break free from his hold. That scene in an earlier episode where she told him Izumi was her boyfriend. I thought that was her telling him "Look I have a boyfriend so leave me alone". But now I think that was to see whether he would approve or not. I'm sure that she'll now go after Izumi. Can't wait to see how this will develop. |
tokidoki921Aug 18, 2019 5:59 AM
| Apparently it gets worse, so i'd love to hear the opinions of the people who defend it when shit hits the fan. Personally I somewhat like the coming to terms with your sexuality parts but the pedo shit is unnecessary and downplayed to hell and back and make me physically recoil from the screen, but i'm hopeful they make examples out of the two pedos. People using the he smelt it he dealt it argument is laughable also >.< |
| The pedo shit is not unnecessary, it is the core of Nina's story. Pretty girls being groomed is a relevant subject that doesn't get enough atention, just look at Hollywood, idols and enjo-kลsai. There are lots of hentai and shit about it, but what about treating it seriously? |
| Stretching upon Mari Okada's experience, this episode was an episode of full-on exercise of frustration upon all that has been built thus far. The issue of Hongou and Milo-senpai, their relationship caused by Hongou's inability to comprehend what truly works in erotic novel, even at an amateur level. But it's true that from the looks of Hongou, it seems that this is far from over. Seeing Sonezaki being obsessed with having a relationship, grinning all ears in smiles, speaks volumes about her change in stance episode after episode. Momo being lesbian after her astounding love towards Sugawara. That's all there is to it no matter how it looks. Meanwhile, back to the love triangle of Kazusa-Sugawara-Izumi, the subject of breasts was litigation that it is a source of women's weapons, not one of substance, when wooing boys (based on experience, which again, brings me back to base point). BUT THEN AGAIN, for Izumi to be such a dork, the real world has such guys like that: fully aware, but being dense about it, being on the safe side to stop the danger that is encountering true love and its graciousness with drastic consequences. To the biggest issue of Sugawara and her former acting sensei, this was TRULY the biggest worry as he labelled her "boring". Ideals were not made to form (as per se individually), but it seems that he's forcing his into Sugawara's, just like the pedo he is to current child talents. Overall, it's not that this is a bad episode, but I feel A LOT of conflicts (which it was intended to do) that don't click into human nature (as much as it is naturally to us). Trying to constantly fight for attention is good, but it's gonna break if there's too much commitment. Hopefully with the last one-third of the series, we'll get some resolution. |
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| So here's how I feel this episode. Kazusa - 10 Boob Fetish aside, she's not wrong to have her insecurities when it comes to Niina and Izumi getting together (especially going forward from this episode on). Hell, the very same fear she had ever since she saw them on the train together may come true. She's just slowly starting to realize that she has to take the chance to confess to him before anything happens and when it comes to intimacy, it's fine to go at your own pace. Momo - Our little lesbian. As @amperevenon stated, it does feel like at time, she's written as a man-hater. The guy's a bit of a jackass, so I get why she acts like that, but he's the only guy she's been around, so it seems like she's basing every dude off of this one dude. In a way, it's a realistic way of thinking that many men and women tend to have when it comes to how they feel about the opposite sex, so again, I get why she acts like that. However, it's also not that much of a healthy way of thinking, so it remains to be seen if that bites her in the ass later on. Sonezaki - She's the type of person who thinks they're on a higher pedestal because they don't focus on sex and stuff. The truth, however, is that she's just as bad, if not worse, than the very girls she likes to slut-shame so much. Not by having sex with her man every chance she gets, but by putting her own feelings and insecurities about being made fun of for having a man before said man. Amagi simply just wants to enjoy having her around and be happy with her, but she sets up so many barriers that he needs to bypass just to be with her that I wouldn't blame him if he just quits. The sad thing is that it's understandable why she does it, but she's really ruining her own chances of actually having a good relationship. Hongou - She pretty much riding on her hormones at this point. It doesn't help that the same adult who she's going after is the very one who's giving her ways to showcase how much she likes him by telling her to do risky stuff under the guise that she'll realize how embarrassing it is then back off, only to be creeped out when she actually goes for it and even more so when she starts being more active in her pursuit. The lesson here is that he should never underestimate teenage girls going through puberty. It won't end well for him. Niina - On the outside: mature and poised. On the inside: mental and emotional wreck. That's the highlight of this episode and the summary of her character. It speaks volumes when she goes back to her pedo teacher for advice on romance, then topping off that exchange with a kiss because she wanted to feel something. The icing on that cake is now she's about to go after Izumi...which is right after she wanted to assure Kazusa that wouldn't ever be the case, albeit by making the misunderstanding that she was doing so in the first place worse. So...nothing really changed on that front. Overall, the series does show that each girl has their own issues and problems, but how will they go about resolving them remains to be seen. Considering it's Mari Okada, I'm expecting a grand dose of romantic melodrama to accompany that journey. |
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| I actually liked this episode. What is the love but selfish feeling of want and the desire to feel good? What§s the affection but combination of pheromones and desire to mate? Humans are actually no different than animals in this regard - the also try to compete for the best mating partner, only the methods are different. Nature actually knows no forbidden acts, anything goes if the goal is achieved. And yeah, I mean older x younger pairs, stealing the partner or even same sex pairs. When you think about it our laws were imposed on us and who say if its ultimately correct. The rules are man invented thing, in the nature animals actually mate as soon as they are ready. Even humans, some people matures sooner than others - and Nina is good example of that. And Okada is showing this perfectly. I think her writing matured a lot troughout the years, and now she is actually not affraid to present all conflicts of main characters. This is the coming of the age story when the girls are actually striving to understand their sexuality. Try not to look on the situation without any prejudices created by the society, open-minded, and you will only see five girls struggling with finding their own sexuality - and this show is actually not afraid to show their feelings and interactions in all bareness. What Okada is showing here are just selfish feelings so common in our society but other anime often evade it. In the end, this show isn't normalizing anything. it just want its viewers to think about the daily problems of those girls by creating thoughtprovoking situations that lead to further discussions and show that love can have many shapes and forms. It wants to show that there is no such thing as the one correct answer and I believe Okada is actually doing good job here. |
| momoko is definitely a lesbian / wlw,,,,i was also like that when i realized i liked girls. the only feelings u can feel with another girl....how...CUTE and romantic!! I already thought she was one since ep??4/5?? I cant remember why but i think it was a conversation she has with her friend on the slide and it me gave a taste of “oh she really loves her like LOVES her...” |
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| Honestly I didn’t like this episode. Moreover the way Sonezaki treats the guy is annoying, I don’t like the way this character think. Sugawara confirms herself as the worst of the group, but Momoko isn’t better. |
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| Hongou and Sensei still are the top most interesting ship in my opinion. Don't get me wrong through Sonezaki and Amagi ship is freaking strong and while she is doing things to destroy that relationship she suffers from a personal fear of being made fun of for being in a relationship with someone. I feel bad for her more then I am angry at her. The love SQUARE is getting to be annoying. Or well I guess it is a triangle with one arrow going from Momo to Niina. This is the least interesting plot in my opinion. While this episode was a good development episode for Kazusa my god she is still comparing herself to other people and it's freaking annoying. The keychain toss was nice. Imagine Izumi saying "Sorry I love Niina" Honestly that would shoot my score up for this anime a lot. |
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| Oh God NO! don't let Sugawara be an antagonist! looks like next episode they will show the bonfire whole performance act! so many things could happened! 5/5. |
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| Oh course they go from making the director, a perfectly fine character that's not harmed a single child, into the bad guy. It doesn't even make sense that he'd want Niina to make her way into adulthood because he doesn't even like adults. Ah, and just when I thought we'd have two great, upstanding lolicons this season, one gets put on the "evil teacher" route for no reason. I guess I really wanted this guy to be a normal lolicon, since, as a teacher, myself, I felt I could empathize with him. Nope. It looks like he's just going to be another throwaway character. |
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| Ugh, I still can't believe the pedophile is still working with kids. By the way, Sugawara should really seek for help if she thinks that pedo is the right person to ask for advice. She's the most confused of the group yet she doesn't even know it. And of course we can't let the love triangle die just yet. Common understanding between Kazusa, Izumi and Sugawara? Yeah, right. It was being too good to be true. Now, Sugawara developed feelings for Izumi out of nowhere just because they drank tea together and most likely will ended up dumping her friendship with Kazusa in order to follow this "free love" bullshit she heard mere seconds ago. I know there are people who like this kind of things but for me, their story feels so forced and made for the sake of easy melodrama I never could take this anime seriously in the first place. Regarding the other girls, there isn't much to say, honestly. Sonezaki, being the most relatable character so far, feels happiness (and a bit of arrogance) about the idea of being in love yet she still has a lot to learn. Amagi may be patient but he's not Buddha so I hope she can overcome her insecurities in time and understand that he has his own feelings as well. As for Hongou, I have no idea of how her "love story" with Milo-sensei will conclude but for the time being, I find it oddly intriguing. And finally regarding Momoko... yeah, I couldn't care less about her, being honest. She seems to be developing feelings for Sugawara but her character has received so little focus I don't know whether it's mere admiration, love or simple curiosity. If the whole love triangle issue was forced, her story is easily the weakest and most boring of them all. Overall, aside from the last few minutes, nothing much happened during this episode. Mostly because all the build up made in said episode for a possible conclusion for Kazusa and Izumi's story was ruined in the end. Honestly, not really interested in the next episode but well. Let's see how it goes. |
SouthRzVaAug 18, 2019 10:58 PM
| Why must this white haired beauty fall for Izumi this hurts bad for some reason. |
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birdiverse said: THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID SO Y'ALL LISTEN UP. SCENES WITH SEXUAL CONTENT ARE NOT ALWAYS INTENDED TO TITILLATE. YOU JUST WATCH TOO MUCH PORN. Fr tho I really admire this show for having the audacity to display the more shameful and uncomfortable sides of the sexual experience that we often want to repress in our minds. Furthermore, depicting pedophilia does NOT inherently justify it—if anything, it is quite clearly portrayed as wrongful and taboo. Yamagishi (the teacher) is constantly punished for his compliance with Hongou's advances, and Sugawara's pedophilic acting teacher is framed as downright creepy and villainous (Izumi acts as the audience surrogate by saying he feels "creeped out" by him). I think he represents the evils of unrestrained sexuality that is motivated by lust and greed, not compassion and awareness. This anime does benefit from the controversiality of its content. All I'm saying is to recognize the signal, not the noise!! Are they implying they got their peepee hard by seeing those scenes ? That's more fucked up. |
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| Momo going lesbian mode, nice. Sonezaki going into her own world of love until she goes like eh, Momo has the same thoughts about the pocky too lmao. I almost thought Izumi was gonna fall out of the window while catching that key-chain -until- he caught it. Momo has really started liking Sugawara, I like this. Okay, Saegusa is weird in a midkey creepy way but nothing new about that. |
shanimebib said: iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Plus the character's behaviour are absolutely ridiculous like Kazusa's where she was only thinking about boobs. Is that supposed to be metaphorical? Seriously, I'm just watching the show because it's a trainwreck, don't understand the people who actually like it or think it's anything close than "good". Well, you can always create yet another "Am I the only one..." thread and get over with it. :P HAHAHAHAHA oh man people, right? It baffles me how shallow and dimwitted people can be. Anyone who thinks this series is about fetish fuel, ought to be first reminded the mangaka is a woman, and second that clearly (you) forgot all of their hormonal turmoil, and teenage angst... The improbability of the teacher-student relationships is for the sake of drama first an foremost, an to catalyze more subjects that spiral through peoples' minds. It is far far from uncommon for kids to have all kinds of various interpretations of love and sexuality AND mix them up as well as project them onto adults. Kids attracted to adults in that way is not anomalous at all. But man, calling it fetish-driven and fanservice, that's hilarious! To basically everyone in this thread that thinks otherwise: this story is a vessel for empathy and esteem building amongst those who strongly relate to these subjects that are rarely talked of or even considered acceptable to talk about. If anything, something like this would make an excellent supplementary educational program within school, instead of all those painful talks and cringy videos. Man all the shit goin down in this forum is like prime time popcorn entertainment, a battle of fools and unfortunate ignorants. ps: not everybody is going to relate to the stuff in the show, it's extreme examples for empathy's sake. if you don't relate, then fine, great, you didn't get hit with puberty very hard, or just aren't in a socially repressed culture like japan. that doesn't justify bitching about it and saying it's just using it as an excuse for sexual entertainment (while it can have that value for some people), which is a conspiracy-theory-level claim. There is no "normalization", there is only addressing of subjects which are severely underdiscussed, and the lack of discussion is the cause of more problems. It is unhealthy to not be accepting of conversation of taboo subjects - if you just enforce without anyone understanding, you cannot be sure it's not a baseless tyranny. ART IS A CONVERSATION. @iTitania_ perhaps you need to mature a little and understand things and people that aren't yourself edit: grammar |
GenesisAriaAug 24, 2019 5:26 PM
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| Ahh. This anime is reminding me again why I like Chika Anzai. She's really good portraying these kind of characters. Suki. |
| I'm really hoping this gets better because I really loved it in the beginning and now it's starting to turn into love triangles and way too much pedophilia lol |
| Ah yes, was waiting for the show to remind me it was written by Mari Okada. That ending took a dark turn not only because of the squick, but the hinting of an incoming love triangle. Some people say Sugawara's affection for Izumi seems deliberate, though I disagree. She's been hanging out with him and trying to feign his love in front of Kazusa, so it's natural for her to eventually develop feelings for him. I'm guessing Saegusa will escalate the situation. I know Sonezaki is shy, but I kinda feel bad for Amagi being sidelined like that. Such a nice lad, I wish he can progress his relationship with her soon. Yamagishi is currently my favorite male character in the show. That move he pulled on Hongou in the beginning was badass. Sudou should just ditch Sugimoto tbh. Other than Saegusa, that guy gives me the worst impression so far. |
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Diphylleia_grayi said: iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Plus the character's behaviour are absolutely ridiculous like Kazusa's where she was only thinking about boobs. Is that supposed to be metaphorical? Seriously, I'm just watching the show because it's a trainwreck, don't understand the people who actually like it or think it's anything close than "good". I would say that it's a 'Guity Pleasure' than an anime I liked or would recommend. I don't even know what I'm gonna rate it. But I feel like a lot of people are actually watching this anime for the same reason. Yes I feel the same way, it's basically like a trainwreck or as you said a guilty pleasure. It's far from good (for various reasons - it's not because it touches on taboo topics like pedophilia etc. per se) but you just have to keep watching because it's so entertaining. @GenesisAria Damn, I absolutely love triggered people like you. Sorry but you aren't worth my time, so you won't get a respond from me on your post. Just like @Eunos said: Eunos said: Apparently it gets worse, so i'd love to hear the opinions of the people who defend it when shit hits the fan. That's what I will do as well since you can't acknowledge other's opinion, apparently. |
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| Field trip was really awesome, we saw some good moments of development between the girls! Window scene between Kazusa and Izumi was really cute! What is Sanezaki doing towards Shun, she its like putting him in lastpriority cause she is affraid of what others will say, hope it will be fixed soon or she will lose him! So Nina really fallen for him, but didn't want to fight with Kazusa cause of that, and that retard pedo is influencing her to do the bad thing! And i wont coment that kiss! I am affraid what will happen next between Izumi, Kazusa and Nina! |
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| So many people are such sensitive whining bitching weasels these days. The anime industry as a whole would have collapsed by now if the japanese community was like the western community, because it would be far too depressing for anyone to work as hard and passionate as they do to produce this stuff. Nobody with a sane mind gives a rat's ass about what is "politically correct" or what is kosher for whatever SJW view. The keyboard warrioring never seems to stop. There is nothing wrong with this anime outside of peoples' delicate emotions, there is nothing unrelatable unless having lived a sheltered denial of an existence, the age gap drama stuff is not as likely but that is exactly how it goes down in reality. Kazusa was never obsessed with boobs, and everyone who thinks that wasn't paying attention at all, because it was about her intense worrying about her adequacy, as breasts, especially in japan, are highly regarded as an important trait for attracting mates. The worry of having insufficient breasts can be indirectly connected to the worry of being lonely for life. Long story short, Kazusa is an idiot lol. Biologically speaking, homo sapiens are supposed to be mating in their teens when their sexual interest kicks in and their sex drives are in their prime and have the most energy and enthusiasm and desire for it. Societally we put all these retarded restrictions on everything because of arbitrary and often baseless assumptions, or fabricated issues (such as the assumed lack of education on the subject, when they actively refuse to teach it), yadda yadda. Kids are more likely to get reckless and do it spontaneously in an unsafe manner if they aren't in the know or aware or whatever - which is the dangers of taboo. Teens aren't horny because creepy adults want them to be, teens are horny and fuck what anyone else thinks about it because you ain't stoppin it. iTitania_ said: Well for one you didn't trigger me, for two, thanks for proving you are a horrible person and an egregious attention seeker (you prob didn't even read the post lmao). It's hilarious that you think that was all a freak-out directed at you. I mentioned you as well in my general statements for your sake so you could perhaps learn a thing or 2 and grow up, but i guess that is off the table. Get over yourself.@GenesisAria Damn, I absolutely love triggered people like you. Sorry but you aren't worth my time, so you won't get a respond from me on your post. Just like @Eunos said: Eunos said: Apparently it gets worse, so i'd love to hear the opinions of the people who defend it when shit hits the fan. That's what I will do as well since you can't acknowledge other's opinion, apparently. |
GenesisAriaAug 23, 2019 1:11 PM
| โๆก่ใ็ฉบใ Cute is Power. ๐CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| At first, I thought Niina is nice, but in this episode.. I saw that she's not! also reading from manga, it went down hill.. she ruin the show for me :( |
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| What the fuck. This show had such a promising start, but it's getting worse and worse. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| No wonder that burgers are censoring more and more things and Sony is doing what is doing if you burgers are so obsessed and paranoid about literally anything. I felt really sick reading some SJW comments here. It's not like this series is phenomenal or something, but come on. Basically what @GenesisAria said few posts above. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Fucking terrible episode. Couldn't stop laughing at that line about boobs jiggling together. Stop pandering to otaku, Okada. |
MormegilAug 24, 2019 3:04 PM
| And this show seemed so good at first.. But now creepy old dudes and a yet another brewing love triangle ๏ฟฃใธ๏ฟฃ |
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| Ok, shit is getting serious. I think it's time to stop and wait for the reast episodes to air or I'll get stuck in some really fucked up drama. I kinda want to see it tho... I won't bother with responding to some of posts here, just +1 to @GenesisAria |
JustAnotherShiroAug 27, 2019 1:04 AM
| This show knows how to flip a table on you when you least expect it. I can condemn their bravery for discussing these disturbing topics. Maybe it's been that obvious but I was holding on it. Momoko is coming off as a lesbian, Niina is doing whatever that creepy affair is, Kazusa and Izumi are restoring some faith, and Rika is looking to destroy the relationship with the most potential in the show. It's going downhill. I can't believe some people in the comments ranting over the old creepy pedophile while in the same breath cheering up the relationship between the teacher and Hitoha. Both are no good. |
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