Why does hentai get looked down upon?
| For those that don’t know, the owner of Ex-hentai just announced that he shut down his site due to recent laws in the Netherlands reportedly saying that loli/shota is now considered CP (I don’t want to type out since you probably know what it means). He also said e-hentai and n-hentai will also shut down either in the next 6 months, or by the end of 2020 if they are lucky. Here’s the link to the founder posting it on his forum site: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=229503&st=0 And in the last few hours, I’ve seen both 4chan and 8chan scramble to find torrent sites, archives and downloads to get all the content that was on the site, or for others to lurk on to more sites that have hentai related content. https://8ch.net/animu/res/111544.html#111544 https://boards.4chan.org/h/thread/5411286 https://8ch.net/v/res/16728405.html#16728405 It feels like the the things that people loved the most are now either going away or shutting down because of people not wanting to know the difference between fictional drawings of children and real life children. As a whole, this is bad news for the anime community. :/ |
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| The concept of "cartoon characters having sex" is simply really really weird to most people. Not to mention it's associated with fat neckbeards jacking it to 12 year old lolis. Hence why I don't watch it. If you watch hentai, don't worry, there will NEVER be a shortage. You just have to look in the right places. |
CreativeNam3Jul 26, 2019 1:44 PM
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EndlessMaria said: And nothing of value was lost. Good riddance. LOL comeon. What am I supposed to watch without my hentais :(( |
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| Normies will be normies. And perhaps more importantly, people will always be more prejudiced against things they don't understand. Hentai is no exception |
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| That thread is 48 pages long so I didn't read through the whole thing, but from the OP you linked, it sounds like that guy is shutting down his site because his tendon injury prevents him from sitting in front of a computer - theoretically someone else could move the site to a server that isn't in the Netherlands? Also, I'm not sure whether the Netherlands legislation he referred to was actually about lolis because I don't think he mentioned what it was specifically. It may have to do with copyrights, because if it were just lolis, he could have just removed all loli content. Edit: Okay I'm back after doing some shoddy research, and it seems that I was right about this not being a problem with lolis/shotas. Looks to be mainly the admin not wanting to maintain the site anymore, and if there is any government interference involved, then it is due to copyright issues. |
DaemonJul 26, 2019 2:16 PM
 What's the difference? |
| Hmm it's a pain to save it all but oh well they do intend to monopolize everything so it's only a matter of time. |
| Wait, nHentai might get shut down soon?! Well, shit. Looks like i'll be spending the next few days desperately downloading my entire Favorites list. |
dizzyur said: There's some pretty vile shit in hentai, at least those subgenres of hentai, mostly loli shota, make me sick. As many people steadfastly claim they'd never harm an actualized child who like those genres, as much as I want to believe them, there are actual pedophiles who aim to harm irl children that fap to that shit. I've heard out the reasoning of alleged people who consume such content that don't claim to be pedos try and equate it to a female like me having rape fantasies but not actually wanting to be raped, but since I have unfortunate trauma from child abuse it's very hard for me to dissociate the people who consume the genre from pedophiles because it disgusts me on a personal level. I don't hate all hentai, and I have some very specific morally questionable things I like myself, but it really is all too easy to moralfag on shota and loli due to my experiences with and researching child abuse and the affects of it, I've reviewed statistical / educational sources on CSA for writeups and projects and it truly is something horrific that I hope nobody ever experiences, and is coupled with various other forms of child abuse, therefore, can't exactly blame myself or others for hating it if not purely out of psychological trauma and anger towards adults who take advantage of children's youth in order to tear them down and rip them apart; mentally, physically, sexually, or otherwise. Shota arguably disgusts me even more than yaoi because pedo women think they can get away with it due to their gender and unfortunately people are a lot more prone to excuse women who claim to like shotarape than men who like lolirape. Yet at the same time people will jump down my throats for liking older men and authority figures while excusing that pedoshit. After talking all that, how do you feel knowing that I love shotacon, not because of kids, but because I like older women and see myself as the shota of the relationship (I'm 20, by the way)? One site going down isn't that big of a deal. In fact, it will be a matter of months until a successor comes up.But if there's so many people who see hentai as nothing more than "taboo topics", "giant dicks" and "women with exaggerated bodies", then they REALLY need to see more hentai, or at least talk to someone who understand the genre. I do understand that the "vile" stuff can be very disgusting to some people, but the best way to solve that is to filter out those types of hentai (and indeed I think most sites have this option already) instead of demonizing the whole industry and eliminate every hentai of existence, including the soft ones (because yes, those people are very likely to do such a thing, like what Tumblr did last year). |
Vini310Jul 26, 2019 2:20 PM
| Let's be real here, it's not uncommon for people to not be able to discern fiction from reality. And besides, it would appear that porn/hentai is like weed, in that it grows back no matter how often you try to wipe it out XD |
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| I don't think it's either of those options. People naturally dislike unusual things, all the more so if it's something marginal like hentai is in the west. Combined with overall stigma associated with sex and porn in general (even though it's disappearing) and you have some very divisive thing on your hands. So obviously quite a few people who aren't well acquaintanced with anime, or are just casual watchers of it, might fail to understand its appeal. |
| I seldom watch hentai anime. When I do, I always look forward to see the story behind them, the sex scenes are just bonus. However, I hate hentai that contains tentacles and monsters. They are weird. |
dizzyur said: Vini310 said: After talking all that, how do you feel knowing that I love shotacon, not because of kids, but because I like older women and see myself as the shota of the relationship (I'm 20, by the way)? One site going down isn't that big of a deal. In fact, it will be a matter of months until a successor comes up.But if there's so many people who see hentai as nothing more than "taboo topics", "giant dicks" and "women with exaggerated bodies", then they REALLY need to see more hentai, or at least talk to someone who understand the genre. As long as you're not fetishizing real children. Though as a submissive girl in terms of sexuality (I'm sure my personality can come across as dommy, I'm not) I hate femdom ngl. I always get annoyed when girls say that women who are into being a sub in the bedroom automatically means we have no control over our lives outside of it, last I checked I can do whatever I want. But okay, from that perspective, I've heard people use it but I don't really understand why someone wouldn't prefer "normal" femdom involving teenage to older men instead. Of course, I'm not you. Just as long as you're not fetishizing kids irl and wanting to touch them. Thanks for the explanation! In real life I just can't stand children. I stay away from them as much as I can, because, well, kids are annoying. And as someone who consumes and produces hentai (and knows a ton of hentai artists), I can say for sure that all of them know the difference between fiction and reality, even the ones who draw super edgy stuff. |
| imo, hentai is for people who havent had sex yet.....and for those who like tentacle porn and other stuff you just cant get irl.... Like furries that arent gross/hilarious looking or dicks that grow out of vaginas |
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| The issue of SadPanda/ExHentai having to go AWOL due to the new laws passed in the Netherlands where the site has been hosted that considers Loli/Shouta stuff CP has been an issue for a long time in progressive developing countries not just for Hentai but a lot of art forms that carry extreme subjects. Hentai isn't hated, heck loli/shouta content probs is the most famous tags for the art aside from NTR. Yet it is hated and shun by higher-ups or people who have trouble understanding the concept of separating fiction from reality, as this argument has always been brought upon video games and controversial forms of film and literature, yet in this scenario shouta/loli content is in even a more taboo field due to it involving young characters so unlike with violent video games it is almost impossible to convince people who can't separate fiction from reality to understand that it's not in the fields of CP. Anyways ye it's just very taboo to many Progressive Westerners who only know about normal porn so there's that. |
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| I don't watch it myself (it's nothing against hentai or lolicon in particular whatsoever - I'm just not a big porn person in general and never was), but you're absolutely correct that it is a loss and it impoverishes the world further when decisions like this come into effect and are allowed to stand, received passively, or even hailed. It is a loss for anime, even if one doesn't partake in it themselves. I also don't watch a lot of long shounens like Dragonball and Bleach, but I would never want those to disappear from the anime landscape. There's something comforting I find with the lolicon imagery becoming more normalized and pervasive in artwork. If anything I think it provides a positive outlet and pressure release valve in artistic expression that may even lead to alleviation of the suffering of some children in real life. So naturally I'm on the side of its complete deregulation and fighting against it being stigmatized. Every time a decision like this is made you're going to hear all sides of the debate loudly and very viciously as it's a very divisive topic so that may be why it seems like there's more hate around it. Until the legal complications are sorted or the political landscape which led to increased regulation and prohibition is meaningfully altered by sympathetic individuals or parties, take my advice and retreat to the dark web. Learn to utilize it well as your redoubt. |
| I love hentai so there is nowhere for me to vote really, and also I don't think there is that many people who actually hate it. The people claiming so today are the same who hated regular porn in the past, they just don't get and are wierded out. As for lolis/shotas that's another thing completely and this entire thing seems more like it's directed at those contents and the owner's injury and not hentai in of itself. I mean why not just get rid of the problematic content instead of risking losing everything else. |
| Well because most hentai is just rape, ntr, ugly bastard, incest,bestiality and the loli and shota shit. It is pretty rare to find hentai that does not involve in fucking your mother,sister,aunt,cousin or getting fucked by your dad,uncle,brother,dog, monsters and fat old man that smell of sweat and cocaine. |
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| Oh no! Now... Where will i see my hentai? ;_; |
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JoyBoy_316 said: I mean why not just get rid of the problematic content instead of risking losing everything else. Because there'd be almost no content. Almost all parodies are of anime girls who are not over 18/whatever. At what point is the drawing 'of age' in order to conform with whatever law this is? It's impossible to tell what is and is not problematic so the guy just gave up, it looks like. It's like removing 'young looking' characters from anime for the same reasons, the industry would be dead. |
| I think the options are not consistent with the question. And there's a lot of hentai on PornHub. |
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| its hard to find uncensored hentai thats why i rarely watch it and thats why i hate hentai that way, i go for those short video game character porn clips more now a days as for the pedophilia stuff its same debate if violent games/movies make people violent or if porn makes more rapist stuff so its a never ending cycle at this point (but maybe with better science in the future that may change) |
| Cut one off, but the hydra always grows more heads. As for me, I only hate bad hentai that isn't my fetish, which happens to be like 90% of it. |
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| inb4 #AnimeGate like thats why anime should have never become mainstream because it will cause censoring and banning more |
| and ye i agree with some replies here saying Hentai is hated by the normies because its mostly about sexual taboo stuff |
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| um,,,,, let me think.... because they don't like 2D? maybe? |
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| If we're talking about loli/shota specifically, then the answer is simple: it's porn depicting sexual intercourse with children. Look I understand that "it's just a drawing not real children", but it's still drawings depicting sexual intercourse with children and for a lot of countries that is considered against the law for depiction of pedophilia. This is the reality of the world we live in. Sometimes we all need a reality check and, with all due respect to the moderators of all the hentai/doujin sites, it's a good time as ever for one. Besides, everyone loves a cute loli character, but not everyone wants to see her getting fucked by an old ugly bastard. |
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| Most of them are loli, shota, incest necrophilia, or an alien fucking an elf. The only ones with decent to good animations are always ntr or ugly bastard. Or it would have both characters fully clothed except the main parts having sex but the camera is always towards the dick. Miss me with that gay shit. |
| Because it's porn and it's cringier than porn in other medium. |
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| It's not porn, it's art you uncultured normies. |
| Cause we're a hateful species. Hating things is what gets most people through the day. |
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| I never really got it myself. I don't exactly get turned on by hentai.. if I'm ever feeling the urge to spank the monkey, I just go for some real porn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hating it though? Idk, I'm just gonna go with the others in this thread and say that it probably has to do with the depictions of underage characters. |
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| I'd say a good part of the reason why is due to the common occurrence of CP and loli hentai. Unlike real porn, whereas you can't find CP the normal way. |
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