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| lol, I can't believe so many people are crying about bad CGI. I honestly didn't even notice it until I started reading this forum. I'm more interested in the story and characters. Yall a bunch of entitled babies. |
| Fucking hell madhouse, atleast it was funny. The end where it cut out the massacre was pure budget cut. Gobos still no threat to nazarick but can defend themselves now. |
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| Good episode. The CG was definitely horrible, it was almost ridiculous at times. The one scene where the soldiers were running away from the goblins looked so bad it made me laugh. It's almost like they did it on purpose. xD Anyway, I did like the content of the episode and Enri summoning that goblin army at the end there was great. Lupusregina was awesome at end, I kinda wanted to see her kill the prince after that badass look she gave. xD Shame we couldn't see any of the massacre. |
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| Enri Emmot, a farmgirl without shotgun live in a smallville that one day upgraded to metropolis is now a General of an army. You will never know when she will reach certain requirement and summon a bunch of Lv.120 super eunuchs or Lv150 Maou even. |
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| hahahaha nobody expected the goblin army, not even Ainz xD |
AivanKSep 18, 2018 6:01 PM
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
thebrentinator24 said: *Insert generic comment along the lines of "eRmAhgErd tUrRibLe CgI" here* hahahaha so true xD |
| "There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| Who gives a toss about the cgi?-Whether bad or good,I'm grateful this series is still ongoing,and as for"oh,Ainz hasn't been in for the past god knows how many episodes!!!",who gives a rats ass.The storys damn good,and at least this anime doesn't skip the little bits inbetween like a lot of other series. For me,its up there with the best,whether an episode has Ainz in it or not,you know he's gonna be badassing at some point. |
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| So, now we understand why this season started in Karn village, maybe Ainz predict if Enri dont learn how to be a good leader, Karn village will become a weakness for himself! But even Ainz didnt expect a powerfull goblin army like that, neither i! Lupusregina is really crazy, her baddass expressions was awesome, i though we would see prince being killed by her! |
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| I noticed that quite a few people all over the internet had this strange misconception that somehow Lupusregina "helped Enri out", which was supposedly the "real reason" why the horn summoned the whole army... Of course they're completely wrong, however how the hell did they all even get to that conclusion in the first place? |
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Leonzilla said: Alright about the story, Does anyone have any idea about what the authors thought process could have being when writing the events found in this episode? I mean the part about the overkill 5000 Goblin army with a holy marching band included was almost expected with how this story is for the most part a power fantasy with plenty of violence to satisfy all your gore cravings. The part that puzzled me tho is why did the author write it that way? Why let the prince go only to kill him right after in an even more horrific fashion? My guess is that the suffering of the prince was exactly the point and the author decided he wanted to prolong it a little further. I got two issues with that #1 obviously that the 5000 soldiers that accompanied the prince didn't deserve to die and suffer horribly just because they happened to have a lousy commander in charge. and #2 Lupisregina actions by taking the life of the prince would be directly against the best interest of the villagers. I can see Ains and Demiuge would casually come up with a list of entities they feel are better off gone to advance their agenda; but the way I see it they would have being better off killing the prince at literally any other time! I'm guessing a future conflict for the villagers could have being avoided had they just let that prince return before killing him off discretely. Now the villagers will be to blame and there will be little arguing about them acting on self-defense since no witnesses were left alive. This isn't the first time I feel Ain's minions aren't acting in the best interest of Ain's Goals but it's getting more and more annoying particularly because you just know that by the end of this story Ains's will come out victorious anyway... after a massive blood bath that in all likelihood could have being avoided. Again I want to be explicit about this, I'm not having an issue with this concept, I'm having an issue with the execution. I would enjoy this story a lot more if the problems the main characters encounter weren't a direct result of their own incompetence. Stop pretending Momonga is a genius master mind already! At this point he is just become another gary stu. Everything works out in his favor no matter what mishaps happens along the way. I know the source material was from the start a fanfiction at heart and that was awesome during season one, unfortunately the quality of the writing has declined likely to the authors inexperience and possibly because the project was fundamentally meant to be more self-serving than to present something for the entertainment of others. Well I guess no story is perfect, the issues I mentioned aren't likely to make me drop the series, they are just preventing me from enjoying the series as much as I could. THe goblin army is loyal to Enri. They are not related nor aligned with Nazarick. The villagers let the prince go. Nazarick did not. The death of the prince is wholly unrelated to the village. Heck withotu any survivors the Prince will just disappear into the ether never to be heard from again. Not to mention Carne Village is included in the lands that Ainz demanded from the kingdom. Lands he will take after the battle in Katze Plains. So tell me again how there's a risk for Carne even if they did kill the worthless prince? |
Darklight0303Sep 18, 2018 6:20 PM
| Not enough Lupusregina this episode. Does all the villager dead? when they Goblin army come there is only 1 human and 3 goblin. And now they need to expand everything because that army won't fit on village. |
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ZBlastHistory said: Not enough Lupusregina this episode. Does all the villager dead? when they Goblin army come there is only 1 human and 3 goblin. And now they need to expand everything because that army won't fit on village. Ainz loaned them earth golems before, I am sure he won't mind lending more man power to expand the village into a city |
| "oh no, its the attack of the copy/past cgi army" "oh wait, theres 20 more copy/paste cgi armies where that came from" |
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Darklight0303 said: THe goblin army is loyal to Enri. They are not related nor aligned with Nazarick. The villagers let the prince go. Nazarick did not. The death of the prince is wholly unrelated to the village. Heck withotu any survivors the Prince will just disappear into the ether never to be heard from again. Not to mention Carne Village is included in the lands that Ainz demanded from the kingdom. Lands he will take after the battle in Katze Plains. So tell me again how there's a risk for Carne even if they did kill the worthless prince? You misunderstood, I didn't claim there was a risk to Carne Village, I'm sure they will be fine whatever happens. What I said is that the disappearance of the prince after being sent to collect information to Carne Village will likely lead to the next conflict they have to face against the kingdom, a conflict that would be much more easily avoided had the soldiers accompanying the prince had made it back to the Capital to give their testimony of the events. Either way the author could have found a way to make that conflict happen if he really wants to but having the characters act in a way that it's likely to incite a conflict they would latter have to deal with doesn't speak well of the characters and their actions. |
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Leonzilla said: Darklight0303 said: THe goblin army is loyal to Enri. They are not related nor aligned with Nazarick. The villagers let the prince go. Nazarick did not. The death of the prince is wholly unrelated to the village. Heck withotu any survivors the Prince will just disappear into the ether never to be heard from again. Not to mention Carne Village is included in the lands that Ainz demanded from the kingdom. Lands he will take after the battle in Katze Plains. So tell me again how there's a risk for Carne even if they did kill the worthless prince? You misunderstood, I didn't claim there was a risk to Carne Village, I'm sure they will be fine whatever happens. What I said is that the disappearance of the prince after being sent to collect information to Carne Village will likely lead to the next conflict they have to face against the kingdom, a conflict that would be much more easily avoided had the soldiers accompanying the prince had made it back to the Capital to give their testimony of the events. Either way the author could have found a way to make that conflict happen if he really wants to but having the characters act in a way that it's likely to incite a conflict they would latter have to deal with doesn't speak well of the characters and their actions. There is no conflict since the kingdom can't set foot in the sorcerous kingdom once it's established. This is what you fail to understand |
| That was surprising even for Ains, how much Enri was able to summon that many goblins. Those were the different kinds of goblins, but I'm glad they came because I love the Carne village they have that lovely unity amongst them, its all love. The Prince is in a dire situation, I think he's dead though even though he won't leave much presence. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
lihle808 said: That was surprising even for Ains, how much Enri was able to summon that many goblins. Those were the different kinds of goblins, but I'm glad they came because I love the Carne village they have that lovely unity amongst them, its all love. The Prince is in a dire situation, I think he's dead though even though he won't leave much presence. He's dead. Narration said only 30 minutes later he was allowed to die |
| Lupisregina is the best part, lol. |
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| The bad CGI almost took my mind off how bad the defenses of the village were. |
| - what the hell with the CGI? did madhouse save money for the last 2 episodes or for the bluray version? - Oh Zhuge Liang, why did you turned into a green goblin? - so, the TRASH item had hidden ability that even momonga doesnt know what was it. - and what the 3 conditions that even the palyer yygradsil doesnt fullfil it? (fuck my grammar) - as a thanks, i'll leave the coolest Zhuge Liang's artwork here |
bondtuxSep 19, 2018 2:55 AM
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| I'm leaning on the probability of the latter of the two of Ainz hypotheses about the Horn of the Goblin General, something about the skills of the summoner. Enri has indeed changed after initial blowing of the first horn, she has become fitting a leader as village chief or perhaps in the conditions of the item's flavor text that we haven't seen, a general. Zhuge Liang is zat yoo? LOL And what a proper army it was, supplied with it's own strategist, marching band, heavy infantry skirmishers, at least two different elements of cavalry support, magic support, magic heavy bombardment support, assassination squad, honor guards...I bet there's some heavy siege equipment, combat engineers, and the long supply train we haven't seen yet. XD Good-riddance to that idiotic Prince. Everything redounds to the greater glory of Lord Ainz! Let's go to the Katze Plains already. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Good episode on the whole, but the massacre went the complete opposite way to how I expected. Still, that's actually a good thing as there's still much more to Enri and Nphirea that this show can capitalise on in future, particularly after this latest revelation that Enri seemingly enhanced the effects of the summoning horn Ains gave her in season 1. |
| That magic item Horn of the Goblin Genera is too useful! It summoned a whole horde/arsenal of Goblins and not only that! these Goblins have various complete types of Classes and jobs! Lupisregina was badass! and she wasn't even needed but her appearing in front of the first prince was priceless! Massacre time again! 5/5. |
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kenji1104 said: Only disappointment I had here was that they didn't show Lupusregina torture that idiot of a deluded prince to death. How I wish I saw that, Barbro was such a deplorable human being in the LN to the point that he wanted to rape Nabe when he first saw her. He did not see nabe in anime. So, does this mean that anime is not adapting everything ?! |
thepath said: kenji1104 said: Only disappointment I had here was that they didn't show Lupusregina torture that idiot of a deluded prince to death. How I wish I saw that, Barbro was such a deplorable human being in the LN to the point that he wanted to rape Nabe when he first saw her. He did not see nabe in anime. So, does this mean that anime is not adapting everything ?! I think the part with Nabe was either only about him hearing from others about how beautiful she was, or that he once saw her from afar, perhaps when she went with Momon to "save" the Kingdom capital from disguised Demi-Urge. |
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398288 said: Leonzilla said: from the kingdom's perspective,there is no way anyone would think the villagers killed the prince and all the army without anyone returning.they'll think that some sort of accident happened.if the prince returns to E-Rantel the village is going to be known by everyone before the war ends,which means that the Sorcerous Kingdom isn't exactly owning the land yet,and self defense was never a reason for the kingdom.they fought a prince,nobody can or would do anything to prevent them being punishedAlright about the story, Does anyone have any idea about what the authors thought process could have being when writing the events found in this episode? I mean the part about the overkill 5000 Goblin army with a holy marching band included was almost expected with how this story is for the most part a power fantasy with plenty of violence to satisfy all your gore cravings. The part that puzzled me tho is why did the author write it that way? Why let the prince go only to kill him right after in an even more horrific fashion? My guess is that the suffering of the prince was exactly the point and the author decided he wanted to prolong it a little further. I got two issues with that #1 obviously that the 5000 soldiers that accompanied the prince didn't deserve to die and suffer horribly just because they happened to have a lousy commander in charge. and #2 Lupisregina actions by taking the life of the prince would be directly against the best interest of the villagers. I can see Ains and Demiuge would casually come up with a list of entities they feel are better off gone to advance their agenda; but the way I see it they would have being better off killing the prince at literally any other time! I'm guessing a future conflict for the villagers could have being avoided had they just let that prince return before killing him off discretely. Now the villagers will be to blame and there will be little arguing about them acting on self-defense since no witnesses were left alive. This isn't the first time I feel Ain's minions aren't acting in the best interest of Ain's Goals but it's getting more and more annoying particularly because you just know that by the end of this story Ains's will come out victorious anyway... after a massive blood bath that in all likelihood could have being avoided. Again I want to be explicit about this, I'm not having an issue with this concept, I'm having an issue with the execution. I would enjoy this story a lot more if the problems the main characters encounter weren't a direct result of their own incompetence. Stop pretending Momonga is a genius master mind already! At this point he is just become another gary stu. Everything works out in his favor no matter what mishaps happens along the way. I know the source material was from the start a fanfiction at heart and that was awesome during season one, unfortunately the quality of the writing has declined likely to the authors inexperience and possibly because the project was fundamentally meant to be more self-serving than to present something for the entertainment of others. Well I guess no story is perfect, the issues I mentioned aren't likely to make me drop the series, they are just preventing me from enjoying the series as much as I could. Considering the events that are about to follow, none of that would matter though. Enri's army is strong enough to win the main battle on the Katze by herself if she participated, even if she faced both Kingdom and Empire. And Ainz's own army is even stronger. The thing is that even if they want to punish her, they couldn't. It's just that the Goblin Strategist was only just summoned and not aware of the outside world's circumstances, which is why he chose to be cautious and let the prince go. Soon the village will be part of the Sorcerer Kingdom and any attacks against the village would be equivalent to declaring war against the entire Sorcerer Kingdom. Whether anyone would dare do that? The upcoming SPLATisodes 12 and 13 will give insight into that. |
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| This episode wasn't so bad I think. It was rather faithful to source, compared to before. CGI wasn't great, but by now everyone should be used to that. Though directing was quite bad this episode, and I think that's where it failed more than CGI itself. Instead of using CGI strength and show us large scale battle they did close up shots, and those really look better in 2D. Which played to CGI weakness that's in animating characters themselves, especially since this CGI isn't that good to begin with. Not sure if this is done by same director as first 2 seasons or not, since he isn't listed (for his own good I guess :D), but director is certainly failing badly this season. Overall though this episode was fairly enjoyable in spite of it's issues. A shame they didn't show Lupusregina fight though. Now question remains if they do so bad in CGI to make next 2 episodes really good, or if they just wanna make them suck so much too in CGI department. It would be a shame if it does suck, since it's only thing that can save this anime in my eyes at this point. I'm not saying it should have OPM or Ufotable level of graphics, but what they are doing here is ridiculous at times, which is a shame since this anime deserves better. Some people are talking about animators and their conditions, which certainly are questionable and should be changed. Still, in spite of it even your regular moe show has often better graphics than this. And in the end anime industry itself must do something about those conditions, no one else can. Since the way it's financed now from BD sales only is very wrong. Especially since those BDs are then so expensive that in country where I live, I'm sure maybe 10-20% of regular people at most could afford 1-2 volumes of BD per month. They really need to make TV pay them to stream their shows, since in the end TV mostly makes money off adverts anyway, and they can only do that if people are watching them. Since as far as I know, now TV isn't paying them, and I heard they even need to pay TV station to air their stuff. That might have made sense somewhere in 70s and 80s when anime was fairly new thing, and no one was sure if it's going to be popular enough, but today change is long overdue considering it's popularity. Anime brings watchers, and so TV should pay them for it. I'm sure that alone would improve conditions a lot. Bringing shows with subpar animation and questionable directing can at best decrease BD sales, which is akin to shooting themselves in the foot. |
MrZawaSep 19, 2018 8:27 AM
Gnowmickly said: Enri Emmot, a farmgirl without shotgun live in a smallville that one day upgraded to metropolis is now a General of an army. You will never know when she will reach certain requirement and summon a bunch of Lv.120 super eunuchs or Lv150 Maou even. After that, what's left is she'll become a queen or something of a certain kingdom. |
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| Honestly we should just call Enri the Goblin Queen from now on lol |
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| Enri OP pls nerf CG still not as bad as both seasons of "new" Berserk. Also had you fuckers bought the Blurays maybe the animation would have been better, hmmm? Grey-Zone said: I noticed that quite a few people all over the internet had this strange misconception that somehow Lupusregina "helped Enri out", which was supposedly the "real reason" why the horn summoned the whole army... Of course they're completely wrong, however how the hell did they all even get to that conclusion in the first place? I think it's because of Crunchyroll subs. Lupusregina says "I was so surprised that I couldn't help raising my voice behind Enny. I didn't think that many would appear!". It might be interpreted that she assisted Enri in some way, but actually she just meant her expression of surprise (she was concealed beside them during escape, her "Eeh?!" was heard third after Nphi and Enri's). |
vanetzSep 19, 2018 11:33 AM
| I will not mention the CGI in this post (like 100 people before me already did). That start with Enri and Nfirea together in that shed was so god damn adorable. Lord Ainz reaction to that massive goblin summon was so priceless, somehow he always catches me off-guard with his first reaction to something unexpected happens. |
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| I dont understand why they let the prince escape. They said it would give Enri some leverage in negotiations but wouldn't it be better to capture him instead? Using nobles/royalty as hostages to tip the negotiation in your favor against a monarchy has always been done in medieval times. Letting the prince escape was a mistake because he can return in the future with a better and bigger army but I guess none of that matters now that Lupusregina killed him off screen. I was hoping to actually see her fight with her weapon or maybe turn into a werewolf and go bloodlust crazy like Shalltear when she was hunting Brain in the caves. |
Imphie said: I dont understand why they let the prince escape. They said it would give Enri some leverage in negotiations but wouldn't it be better to capture him instead? Using nobles/royalty as hostages to tip the negotiation in your favor against a monarchy has always been done in medieval times. Letting the prince escape was a mistake because he can return in the future with a better and bigger army but I guess none of that matters now that Lupusregina killed him off screen. I was hoping to actually see her fight with her weapon or maybe turn into a werewolf and go bloodlust crazy like Shalltear when she was hunting Brain in the caves. He's a liability more than an asset and with Renner already working with Nazarick there's no use for a hot headed moron like him |
Darklight0303 said: There is no conflict since the kingdom can't set foot in the sorcerous kingdom once it's established. This is what you fail to understand It hasn't being established yet, and even if it had an idiot seeking revenge for the prince could always attack anyway. That would likely not end well for the hypothetical idiot of course, but my point is that such occurrence would be less likely had the prince assassination be carried at another time. Grey-Zone said: 398288 said: Considering the events that are about to follow, none of that would matter though. Enri's army is strong enough to win the main battle on the Katze by herself if she participated, even if she faced both Kingdom and Empire. I'm not sure they are that strong, they might be a strong army consisting of 5000 well balanced medium level goblins but the Empire was said in the novels to consist of over 60,000 troops (not counting Ainz's 500 Death Knights) and the Kingdom forces were said to be even more numerous at 245,000 men. the Goblin Strategist was only just summoned and not aware of the outside world's circumstances, which is why he chose to be cautious and let the prince go. I'm not convinced that was his reasoning regarding that decision, is that ever explicitly stated in the novels? |
NonintelligentSep 19, 2018 6:33 PM
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Leonzilla said: Darklight0303 said: There is no conflict since the kingdom can't set foot in the sorcerous kingdom once it's established. This is what you fail to understand It hasn't being established yet, and even if it had an idiot seeking revenge for the prince could always attack anyway. That would likely not end well for the hypothetical idiot of course, but my point is that such occurrence would be less likely had the prince assassination be carried at another time. I'm not sure they are that strong, they might be a strong army consisting of 5000 well balanced medium level goblins but the Empire was said in the novels to consist of over 60,000 troops (not counting Ainz's 500 Death Knights) and the Kingdom forces where said to be even more numerous at 245,000 men. the Goblin Strategist was only just summoned and not aware of the outside world's circumstances, which is why he chose to be cautious and let the prince go. I'm not convinced that was his reasoning regarding that decision, is that ever explicitly stated in the novels? Attacking anything in Ainz's kingdom = a Declaration of freaking WAR. Considering what's going ot happen in these two episodes. NO ONE WILL WANT THAT |
Darklight0303 said: Attacking anything in Ainz's kingdom = a Declaration of freaking WAR. Considering what's going ot happen in these two episodes. NO ONE WILL WANT THAT You underestimate the power of idiocy! Didn't you see how that prince acted during the episode? It doesn't matter if something goes completely against one's own best interest one can still choose to pursue it anyway. So long as someone is stupid enough they can present a threat to both themselves and everyone around them. |
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| "ima need to bleach my eyes" "I cannot believe this is mad house seriously" "My eyes are bleeding" "Thank you Badhouse." "I stepped on shiet. Ah corrections i mean madhouse!" "had to take breaks to watch the episode or else my eyes would have burst" Sigh* this people... Come on kids, stop crying. |
| This episode was good. But this season so far has been worse than the previous one. I still have hope that the last episodes will make things better... |
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