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Apr 14, 2018 1:59 PM
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EDIT: Just saw that there will probably be a new opening in Episode 4, That's awesome.
Can someone confirm this?
I cant found a source for that X_x

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Apr 14, 2018 2:01 PM

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Well, this episode was clearly better, I even saw more exposition, little action and character interaction. And ... a lesbian cat? Nevertheless, animation still has a few strange moments, especially during the conversation Ann and Shiho.

Apr 14, 2018 2:04 PM

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Dropped. This anime is dumb.

Ann isn't even enough to keep me watching.

... almost, but not quite.
Apr 14, 2018 2:05 PM
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when you must animate 270 days for 24 episode
that normally will pacing will scary fast
A-1 also has bad habit with unconsisten Artwork and shared budget another title
so you can free be a purist, critics everything, or accept and understanding
i always thought this "promotional anime" for game
Apr 14, 2018 2:07 PM
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Well, this episode was clearly better, I even saw more exposition, little action and character interaction. And ... a lesbian cat? Nevertheless, animation still has a few strange moments, especially during the conversation Ann and Shiho.

Morgana is actually male, or so he says
Apr 14, 2018 2:16 PM

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Syrhar said:
RobertBobert said:
Well, this episode was clearly better, I even saw more exposition, little action and character interaction. And ... a lesbian cat? Nevertheless, animation still has a few strange moments, especially during the conversation Ann and Shiho.

Morgana is actually male, or so he says


Really? So, studying Flip Flappers and inattentive viewing of the scene did their work : \

Apr 14, 2018 2:33 PM
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Well that was disappointing. The animation continues to be lack luster with a lot of still shots and repeat movements. I was hoping that they were saving their budget for some spectacular Persona battles but no their also lack luster compared to the games and the shows pacing doesn't help.

When Ryuji finally summoned his Persona it felt like someone fell asleep at the editing office. Neither the music nor the visuals really kicked in too display the scenes intensity tell maybe three seconds in to Ryuji's struggle. Its a minor nitpick but my favorite scenes from the games are the Persona awakenings.

I had high hopes for the opening but it comes off as lazy. The song is good and its got some good ideas behind it but I don't like that its so reliant on effects and footage from the show. It feels like something that I could make and that is not a good sign.
I do like the ED, It looks really cheap and I can think of multiple different ways to make it interesting without stretching the budget but the songs pretty good and unlike the most of the show it does capture some nice simple P5 style.

I hear the OP will be receiving an upgrade soon and I really hope its worth the wait.

The show seems to be suffering from a common adaptation disorder. Its struggling to be a commercial for the games while at the same time being something for the fans of the games. Thus it fails at both and comes off as a show that isn't very confident in its story and tries to rush you with its hooks which then results in bad pacing.
Apr 14, 2018 2:34 PM

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Ryunske said:

Also, the fight animations weren’t the sharpest and that All Out Attack, regardless of how badass it was, felt lackluster due to how they downgraded the art and animation. I would have preferred for them to just take the CG of Joker from the game and used it instead of trying to recreate it.



Shows how far games have come that if someone did a play through and edited it in the right way you'd probably get a better product than some of the scenes in the anime!

But I'm still really liking it. I think this is the first anime I've watched where I've seen the source material first, so it's a bit of a weird sensation, but I'm having fun spotting characters and hearing the music and generally reminiscing about how cool the game was.

I think there's been enough explained for non-players. You not going to get Morgana explaining everything in one hit that would take up the whole episode, so it's being drip fed.
Apr 14, 2018 2:39 PM

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That pacing is fast... like I kinda need time to breathe lol. Last Surprise seemed like an inappropriate song choice for that specific fight honestly as it was a bit too cheery.
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Apr 14, 2018 2:53 PM
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Another "Ok" episode... Pacing got a little bit better, but still pretty fast, the soundtrack is still just "ok" and some parts like "All-out Attack" should've been done much better. I've heard later episodes will have more improvement, hopefully it's true.
Apr 14, 2018 3:16 PM

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Nice episode. Scenes feel like they transition too quickly, but that's just my taste. Really interested on how Persona 5 will play out in the future, don't know anything about the game but as long as A1 doesn't mess it up like Ace Attorney, I will probably end up liking it a lot.
Apr 14, 2018 3:36 PM
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The only real problem of the series is that its really fast paced.

That though is completely understandable if we consider how huge the video game(source)is.

I know a lot of people are blaming the anime for being so fast(which obviously hurts character development too)but its realy easier said than done.

For me i am really happy we even get an anime adaptation of the series.
Apr 14, 2018 3:49 PM

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Ugh... Kamoshida is an aweful teacher! How could he hit someone when Ann is trying to ignore him? >_< And hitting a girl? That's so low! Someone punch that asshole for once and give him a lesson.

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Apr 14, 2018 4:02 PM

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I don't know how to feel about this episode? And Ryuji's reaction to Ren's story sounded so fake lol

death to kamoshida and his voice
Apr 14, 2018 4:15 PM
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the pace is ok for now, but the animation is terrible
as expected from A-1 Pictures
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Apr 14, 2018 4:15 PM
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Now I'm certain this anime is made with people who already beat the game in mind...
The pacing is WAY TOO FAST even for game players.

They didn't even properly introduce the concept of palace for you in this episode because there's no "tutorial part" where Morgana explains everything.
They didn't even bother to elaborate the part how Ren gets probation...

I know people who only watch the anime would be so confused right now, and feel like the plot is cookie-cutter atm, but trust me, game did explain alot of things in MUCH MORE DETAIL.

A1 is probably going to squish in all the "character arcs" in between main plot, so seriously this make the whole pacing and plot transition very rushed/ jarring. 24 episodes really is too short for this...

Meh, I no longer expect a proper adaptation from A1 anymore.
It'd be a fan-service adaptation for me just to enjoy the main casts being animated.
Ryuji is my favourite character in P5, so seeing him animated is enough for me.
I don't expect A1 to do anything exceptional , or adapting it adequately anymore.


Even with a full season they won't be able to cover a game that took me 95 hours to complete. It won't be a exact representation of the game but i would say they would do their best to cover it. As for what a palace is that can be covered pretty easily so that will be probably be covered. Even if they pulled a black clover and gave this 51 episodes i still think it won't be enough.
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Apr 14, 2018 4:49 PM

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What Da' F is wrong with that girl... I’m not talking about Takamaki (I think that her name) I'm talking about the one MC tried and helped... for her to not return the favor… *Sigh*

On a side note:
The ending song is delish as expected of a Persona soundtrack.
Apr 14, 2018 5:21 PM
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Xhide said:
the pace is ok for now, but the animation is terrible
as expected from A-1 Pictures

I don’t know what your expectations of A-1 Pictures are, but it’s typically the opposite: bad pacing and adaptation with some good visuals is what they usually give.
Apr 14, 2018 5:21 PM

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Cool episode but Kamoshida really is a hateable dude.

I loved seeing Ryuji’a awakening.

I got so excited for an all out attack but I was disappointed at the final part
Apr 14, 2018 5:26 PM

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Well, as expected of A1 the pacing and animation ain't gonna be stellar.

I'm just happy this is not nearly as bad as Ace Attorney adaptation. I really hope it doesn't ever reach that level.
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Apr 14, 2018 5:36 PM

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the OP is awesome.
Apr 14, 2018 5:53 PM

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Antanaru said:
Really? That was the reason for probation? What a lame backstory. They were foreshadowing it as if it was something big and serious but it was barely above the level of scratching dick on a car. Like the fight scene wasn't already disappointing enough. So far so bland.


Towards the end of the game the MC's probation story actually has large plot significance but you just have to be patient.
Apr 14, 2018 5:58 PM

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BaneofKermit said:
Antanaru said:
Really? That was the reason for probation? What a lame backstory. They were foreshadowing it as if it was something big and serious but it was barely above the level of scratching dick on a car. Like the fight scene wasn't already disappointing enough. So far so bland.


Towards the end of the game the MC's probation story actually has large plot significance but you just have to be patient.


The point is they make the probation part rushed so much lolz...

They didn't establish that the suspense and how threatening the situation is.
Blame A1 for this....
It's like a 1 min flashback that looks super lame I agree.

In game it makes alot more sense.
Apr 14, 2018 6:03 PM
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I really liked the opening sequence, felt a like a creative use of the images the had already. But talking about the pacing, oh boy did it lack. Everything was pushed to the viewer so fast that I feel like it's losing a lot of the original is charm. Some changes to the order of fact don't strike me fancy as well. Ren's performance as a full fledged character instead of an avatar right now feels really lacking to me.
Then, I must confess that will certainly keep watching, either for the fanservice or for the expectation that they'll improve upon the stated adaptation problems. Hopefully they create something worth watching for both players of the original game and first-timers
Apr 14, 2018 6:09 PM

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god damn glad the OP is changing need a seizure warning for all those flashing shots though the music for it and the ED are mint .


once again i'm curious to how anime only watchers are gonna handle most of this because we are going at 2x-3x speed it's like their getting the events across but also keeping them so short a lot happened and i was like they fit all of that in just 20mins!?

Kinda figured A1 wouldn't be able to keep the sense of style this show had going for a 2 cour somethings just don't translate well into adapations without it not looking as good as the source all out attack looked pretty cheesy lol and them randomly using the face cut ins is already making it loose it's appeal

still they managed to make Kamoshida look like a real piece of shit actually showed him abusing shiho #Fuck Kamoshida


small thing i was happy to see "her" so early maybe it's a sign we'll get see her show up sooner than in the game
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Ventus_S said:
BaneofKermit said:


Towards the end of the game the MC's probation story actually has large plot significance but you just have to be patient.


The point is they make the probation part rushed so much lolz...

They didn't establish that the suspense and how threatening the situation is.
Blame A1 for this....
It's like a 1 min flashback that looks super lame I agree.

In game it makes alot more sense.


The scene in the game wasn't that long either, it was also a flashback that you could interact with ever so slightly
Apr 14, 2018 6:18 PM

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This episode was amazing. Just last week I got into the MegaTen franchise and I'm really liking the anime of P5 now. This episode was amazing. We got to see Ryuji and Akira's (i hate his anime name deal with it) bond grow. We also got to see Kamoshida's abuse in action. Of course the rapey stuff is shown offscreen, and I think thats good. The battle in the episode was cool. Seing Ryuji's initial summoning of Captain Kidd animated was cool as hell. Also I like how they used LAST SURPRISE in the battle. And they also even timed an attack with the iconic "You'll Never See It Coming!!!!" verse. I am just praying that A-1 Steaksauce Pictures will use LIFE WILL CHANGE my favorite battle theme from the game as well as they did with LAST SURPRISE. Also Ann wearing the bikini made me very uncomfortable. Hearing Akira talking about how he was put on probation. He saved a rape victim and was convicted of assault (knowing how bad Japanese court is right now with the defense lawyers not being very useful, it makes you think Akira shoulda went to the Wright & Co. Law Offices). I haven't gotten to purchasing P5 yet but I am excited to play it after seeing this amazing episode (Just gotta finish 1-4G first)
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Apr 14, 2018 6:22 PM

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Dropped. This anime is dumb.

Ann isn't even enough to keep me watching.

... almost, but not quite.


Play the game. I heard its really good and even has a dub.
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Apr 14, 2018 6:44 PM
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Pretty good episode. OP and ED are ok imo. I still think the way Kamoshida sounds is hilarious compared to the his English voice actor. That said, we finally get to see Morgana in the castle as Ren and Ryuuji start to realize why their school appears as a castle and how they obtained their Persona's.

Poor Shiho and everyone else in school. They don't deserve abuse. So far I say the pacing is still pretty decent and hope it stays that way.

Am looking forward to the next episode.
Apr 14, 2018 7:12 PM
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Ventus_S said:
Now I'm certain this anime is made with people who already beat the game in mind...
The pacing is WAY TOO FAST even for game players.

They didn't even properly introduce the concept of palace for you in this episode because there's no "tutorial part" where Morgana explains everything.
They didn't even bother to elaborate the part how Ren gets probation...

I know people who only watch the anime would be so confused right now, and feel like the plot is cookie-cutter atm, but trust me, game did explain alot of things in MUCH MORE DETAIL.

A1 is probably going to squish in all the "character arcs" in between main plot, so seriously this make the whole pacing and plot transition very rushed/ jarring. 24 episodes really is too short for this...

Meh, I no longer expect a proper adaptation from A1 anymore.
It'd be a fan-service adaptation for me just to enjoy the main casts being animated.
Ryuji is my favourite character in P5, so seeing him animated is enough for me.
I don't expect A1 to do anything exceptional , or adapting it adequately anymore.


Yeah. If I remember correctly, the meeting with Morgana happens in the first visit and he's the one who puts the idea of going back in their heads. Here, they just make a leap of logic to go back. Seeing as meeting Morgana is in this episode, I don't see why they moved that part to the second visit.
Apr 14, 2018 7:44 PM
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Why are you guys complaining about the pacing? If it was slower they wouldn't even finish Madarame's palace
Apr 14, 2018 8:00 PM

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All-out Attack was a disappointment. You could see them being lazy here.
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As a Persona 5's player I felt this episode was rushed.
I didn't like the animated battles, especially the all out attack.

I won't expect anything from this show
Apr 14, 2018 8:57 PM
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Wow they completely skimmed over Morgana's motivations or that protagonist ditched him in the Palace.

Either way, it's the anime that I really look forward to these days. Igor, more talk about ruin plz.

Really looking forward to Futaba's persona awakening. Had the best dialogue.
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It's like they tried to copy the visual style and flair of the game but they did a shitty job of it, it just looks like a cheap knockoff and falls flat. But that's kind of to be expected; the game had more thought and effort put into the visual design of the sub menus than most games/shows have in the entire product.

Same deal with the sound design, the show likes to use a lot of silence in a lot of its scenes, but the silence doesn't serve any specific purpose so it just feels like its missing something compared to the experience of the game where there was pretty much always some kind of music playing in the background.

I'd be willing to just call it the difference between a game that got delayed 2 years and an anime which start to finish was probably produced in far less than 2 years and leave it at that

but fuck me they butchered that all out attack bit
Apr 14, 2018 9:49 PM

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I'll have to say I've never really watched game adaptations, and for good reason it seems. If the animation continues as it is now, I'm sure this'll be a drop.


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Ugh that all out attack was so choppy and ugly lmao lol

The thing that made Persona 5's all out attack + criticals, etc was its god tier graphic design, but none of that is shown, even in the OP lmao lol.
It was really really underwhelming. It's not just in comparison to the god tier art of the game, the actions scenes are actually genuinely bad compared to any other action anime.


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I'm still 100% salty about the Ren faggot ass anme lmao lol
Kurusu Akira was a better name, but meh I'm fine with the name.


DragonSlayer_19 said:
Meh I’d excuse A1 for the animation considering they have like 3 (or more?) shows at their hand this season. Overall, it’s decent though there are some bad sequences here and there.
Nah, if they can't handle the load then they need to just make less anime overall. The industry is producing way too much stuff that almost no one cares and of sub-par quality. Adapting multiple anime is not an adequate excuse to something being bad anyways, especially not when the studio chose to do that

Besides I also don't think that's how animation studios work at all. It's not like they have the same people that has to deal with whatever the number of shows the company decides they make a season. They have different teams on different series, with free-lancers coming in as well.
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Yes it was strange how the OST was missing in a lot of scenes, and the main part of 'Alleycat' was omitted (or is this some remix?)

No 'Beneath the Mask' feels strange too. That should be a must for Le Blanc scenes. It fits the mood so well.
Yoshii Kiria took over as leader of Fairytale and rebuilt it and became one of Tsukunes formidable enemies but let's save that story for another time

Hehe, let me introduce him to you again, kid. This is Shuzen Issa (who is MIA during the final battle), who will become your 'trainer' starting today. You still have much to go if you want to become the headmaster.

Like the two souls have started to become one.
Apr 14, 2018 10:36 PM

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I've never played any of the games or watched any of the previous series but I'm really enjoying this one. TI'm hooked with the story and I find both the soundtrack and the aesthetics amazing.
Apr 14, 2018 11:12 PM

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4/10, rushed, sloppy, poorly made, messes up number of things.
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Ryuji's awakening looks good as well, though would like to see it with the same bgm with Ren's awakening on the first episode, which is pretty stylish and cool.

That all out attack was kinda in game mode, it look stylish but the red plain background made it kinda off putting.

We're getting a much more glimpse of Ren's backstory, though I feel like there's something more to it, that gave him a 1 year probation, which is exaggerated for only a hit on the head of that harasser, with that sinister smirk kinda fishy.

I love the music from the OP, ED and bgm of the fight scene, upbeat and jazzily and OP and ED's stylish animation looks eye candy to me.
Apr 14, 2018 11:32 PM
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It was a terrible animation of "all-out attack", and it killed the impression. I am disappointed.
Apr 14, 2018 11:43 PM

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The op and the ed is good , and nice to see some action here and there , i think p5 got a better start compared to p 4 anime iirc. Looking forward for next week
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I like how they try to incorporate the feeling and effects from the game but... It looks really cheap. What looked awesome and stylish in the game here looks kinda gaudy, tacky even. The all-out attack... Christ why.
Still I really enjoyed the episode. The ending is so great with the gang looking like stylish motherfuckers. But the OP... I love the song but it looks underwhelming. It's just a bunch of frames from anime with nice effects on them.
Yeah, thought so too. The way they are trying to shoehorn elements from the game is honestly really jarring. It's kinda sad to see that they aren't going for their own aesthetics considering they have such a stylish director as Ishihama. It's also no secret that A-1 or rather Cloverworks how they are now calling themselves have a lot of schedule issues, there were quite a lot of bad drawings especially towards the end of this week's episode. Still, it's Persona 5, so I am enjoying the characters and the added scenes, but I wish it was better than that.

Like others have said the real OP will be shown on episode 4, directed and storyboarded by Ishihama, so there is no doubt that it'll be absolutely gorgeous.

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I so suprise when they get out of that castle. Video game version they got out at 12 pm. But the animation version they got out at 9.20 am. I think they will defeat Kamoshida at Episode 4.
Apr 15, 2018 2:17 AM
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I want to like this since I enjoy the game but this was so rushed and they kept leaving things out...

Also the animation is so meh. The stylish flair of the game isn't being captured at all.

It's doing the usual bad adaptation thing to save time where they focus on hitting key events and then skip on the build-up for said key events. Build-up is important, though :/
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Mhh, yeah, I'm liking this more with every episode. Maybe that's just because this is probably one of the closest things we can get to JoJo, but still.
Also, that one Idol we saw in town for like a second... that's the orange-haired girl we saw in school for a second or two, right? If so, then they're already building the foundation for future arcs... good job, A-1. That's not something I'd expect from you guys, lol.
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So there was a flashback inside a flashback. Someone really doesn't like clear and easy to understand things. I still want to know what will happen. I wonder if I should just play the game.
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-Man A-1 pictures FUCKED UP that all-out attack
-Ren's hair sometimes looks way too crazy in this adaptation, though it depends on the shot... but he is still a suave motherfucker and I love him
-The (real world) character interactions are so far the best part of the adaptation, worst part goes to the Metaverse scenes (which is pretty much what I expected)
-Morgana's character design still doesn't work for me in 2D animation, he looks perfect in static 2D sprites and reasonable enough in 3D animation tho
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Antanaru said:
Really? That was the reason for probation? What a lame backstory. They were foreshadowing it as if it was something big and serious but it was barely above the level of scratching dick on a car. Like the fight scene wasn't already disappointing enough. So far so bland.




The only disappointing thing this episode was that Kamoshida just "abused" his students as it also shows it in the castle.
I hope they don't down size the villain Kamoshida by not showing
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