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Oct 18, 2017 4:04 AM

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I think Ayanokoji was just in a bad mood after meeting the teacher and talking about his father.
He genuinely cares about Horikita since he always gives her the credit after accomplishing something even tho he has nothing to gain from it. He does this so that people acknowledge Horikita (and Horikita also feels happy about it). He wants her to change and make allies, it's probably because he doesn't want her to become like him since Horikita is always sad about her brother ignoring her, wants to upgrade to class A, never had real friends before, etc.
Anyway, Ayanokoji x Horikita FTW



They both look cute together <3
I hope this anime gets a season 2

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Oct 19, 2017 2:57 PM

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Ryuen was still there and Ayanokoji with the leader change to mess up everyone's plans and class D triumphs while class A and it's bald leader fall.
Ayanokoji cold as hell at the end, poor Horikita :'(
Oct 23, 2017 12:48 PM

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Too bad the series ended with in 12 episodes. Still, it was a good ending. Pretty enjoyable, overall! 8/10

Definitely deserves a sequel. Just can't wait to see how they get into class A.
Oct 23, 2017 10:14 PM
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Oct 25, 2017 7:06 AM
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Ayanokoji doesn't make much sense. Inner monologue should always be the truth, but his actions contradict his thoughts. I'm glad he shut up that tsundere nonsense with his monologue at the end though.
Oct 27, 2017 6:42 PM
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Good concept, poor execution.

Nothing else to add. Many people already wrote about the problems.

5/10



Dayum some people are harsh critics .

I personally thought it was great, as I do most anime. I give it a 7/10, but just because I feel it was too short or incomplete.

Also I had assumed since the beginning that ayanokouji was emotionless and had no care, but then assumed he would actually start to feel emotion. I actually thought he had a thing for Suzune, but as he confirmed in his inner monologue, he care less about anyone. I honestly hope he decides to open up, and learn how to be a human in the next season.

If there is one....... I hope there will.
Nov 3, 2017 11:05 PM

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The directing was extremely poorly handled for this anime. The overall directing was so poor I wanted to scream "DID ALL THE GOOD ANIME DIRECTORS WENT TO A FEW OF THE STUDIOS?!" and then I checked the director and he was behind Ansatsu Kyoushitsu and Tsuki ga Kirei so I wondered what might have gone wrong. The story is pretty average as well. The characters of Kushida and Ichinose were a bit interesting. Rest are pretty forgettable including Ayanokouji and Horikita. A huge chunk of the things shown were downright redundant as well.

I had to fight against my will but ended up giving it a 6/10 because of the moments of laughter I had throughout this anime. Otherwise, I would have probably given it a 4/10 or a 5/10. What did you guys see in it to rate it close to an 8/10 in mal in average I wonder. Fanservice?! Is it because of the fanservice?! Probably, because I personally thought episode 7 reflected the anime as a whole better.

For one thing, I ROFL when they mentioned sunblock for the girls included in the survival kit. The key words: Survival Kit and Sunblock. LMAO.

Anyways, will I watch a sequel? If I have time that is.

Edit: Actually I changed my mind. After careful consideration, I think I cannot give it more than a 5/10, so 5/10 it shall be.

Edit 2: If you guys wanna see an anime where different classes are competing against one another, better watch Ansatsu Kyoushitsu or even Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu.

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Nov 11, 2017 1:01 AM

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That was quite the twist! Especially that monologue of Ayanokouji at the end! I need more of this anime, a season 2 please! XD Although how did Ayanokouji got class D's card back from Ibuki???

The reference to Icarus sounds pretty ominous though...will Ayanokouji burn himself in the end?

Ryuen mentioned somebody can choose which class they are in by points, is that a hint that somebody will do that or somebody have done that (Ayanokouji...?)?

Really hope to see a season 2 of this! Also cos I'd love to see Ayanokouji x Horikita happen XD
Nov 11, 2017 8:43 AM

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Pretty decent ending I suppose, while this arc came to a nice ending, the actual story is far from ending for that I found it a bit of a lack of an ending.

Still nice progression though and an interesting setting, I do wonder if this will ever get a sequel or anything!
Nov 11, 2017 7:32 PM

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I though it was a good show. The concept does seem similar to Kakegurui and maybe prison school but with more politics. The school is definitely a beautiful prison but seriously what is the government truly trying to achieve. If anything it feels like they are performing some experiment on students like lab rats by rewarding the intelligent and punishing the simpleminded. Almost like selective breeding.

The protagonist was the most interesting and unpredictable character. And it has been a while since I have seen a cool and mysterious OP anti-hero. Initially I didn't understand why was he going with the flow and getting involved when he just wanted a peaceful life. But I guess the ending answered that question. Either way I like his dark side of using others to achieve his objective. I assume it's most likely to get back the people behind the white room who might also own the school. But apart from that there are few secrets between other characters such as Kikiyo and Suzune which are yet to be revealed.

Anyways, I hope this show gets a season 2 as I really want to see how it turns out. 7/10
Nov 12, 2017 9:59 AM

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- fairly terrible set of characters
- cliches on top of cliches
- weird pacing
- complete and utter lack of logical actions and decisions
- tasteless fan service galore
- filler

Overall a cringe filled adventure.
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Nov 17, 2017 12:42 PM

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Now that I finally reached the ending I don't really know what to think of this series.

On one hand there were at least 4 episodes that could be easily taken out and nothing would change... then there is all the build-up made but in the end forget reaching class A or any kind of ending, they didn't even reach class C ... meaning once again this anime shouldn't be called anime but rather advertisement for LN... lastly from few comments I read, it's bad advertisement that doesn't do much justice to the source.

On the other hand however... starting from first EP, I watched the entire anime in one go only with occasional breaks. I had a thought of dropping it at the pool episode but I did not. Most importantly though I like the mind games and I especially liked the MC and MC did not disappoint me at all... he didn't even have much change, which is usually the case for most MCs who receive their own exclusive harems.

So yea, in the end it war really good and enjoyable watch. Overall most episodes deserve 8 from me but few of them can get 5 at best so I guess I will go with 7.


Right, last but not least... coming in I was signing up for High School anime so my expectations could be only that much... after seeing the show those expectations were exceeded :).
Nov 17, 2017 9:41 PM

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MC with the clutch play saving class D - surprised though that none of the other leaders anticipated anything like that though. The fact that you can change leaders is something that these "elite" students shouldn't have overlooked.

On the whole, I enjoyed this show - might have the best MC of the summer season (I've only seen Aho Girl up to this point so can't compare well). MC started as a carbon company of Hachiman with his not expending energy and making some social commentary here and there. However by the ending monologue - we get a clear glimpse of his sociopathic tendencies, the dude is completely detached emotionally from his actions.

Also, from reading summaries of the light novel volumes it seems there was alot of focus on Karuizawa and Ichinose who only got like 10 mins scene time over the 12 episodes. It seems it was decided that those two's scenes would be significantly cut and the focus would be on Horikata. If they make a season two, it might have to diverge from the LN even more. I didn't mind the adaptation though, I really liked Horikata as well. 8/10
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Nov 25, 2017 2:03 AM

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I find this Anime really enjoyable. Though it seems there are some issues about alterations and stuffs from the LN readers that made them not wanting a second season, as someone who doesn't read the novel I don't mind getting a season 2 because there're still so much questions in mind about the characters like Ayanokoji. I have thought at first that he finally changed but deyym the monologue he did at the last part was really intriguing!!
Nov 30, 2017 10:42 AM

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That was quite the twist! Especially that monologue of Ayanokouji at the end! I need more of this anime, a season 2 please! XD Although how did Ayanokouji got class D's card back from Ibuki???

The reference to Icarus sounds pretty ominous though...will Ayanokouji burn himself in the end?

Ryuen mentioned somebody can choose which class they are in by points, is that a hint that somebody will do that or somebody have done that (Ayanokouji...?)?

Really hope to see a season 2 of this! Also cos I'd love to see Ayanokouji x Horikita happen XD


Mah man, Ayanokoji x Horikita is practically imposible to happen in the source material. Sure she is one of the heroines and this might change in the future but in my opinion the author will not go down that route, neither of them showed romantic feelings for each other and there's also a what if story now that focus on Ayano x Hori so it lessens even more the chances of these two getting together in the main story line.

Another factor is that the only girls that Ayanokoji cares about are Karuizawa and Sakura(the former having more chances than the latter, Karuizawa'c character development is great and it's mainly because of Ayano, and he is also showing signs of development because of her...at least that's how I see it).

Still, fell free to ship them, I prefer Ayanokoji x Karuizawa or Ayanokoji x Ichinose but I'll admit that I also like Ayano x Horikita too.

I also would like a season 2(if they change the directors since I don't want Horikita taking the role of the other heroines again -_-) and if it happens, I hope that they stay faithful to the source material this time.
Dec 3, 2017 4:27 AM
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Well, tbh it was very enjoyable anime, but it was too short :(. also till the end, ayanokouji motives are still mysterious xD what a cool mc. for ayanokouji, i believe he will be the top male of the year. 8/10 from me and waitin for season 2
Dec 4, 2017 6:41 PM

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Pfffffffft c'mon, they should've at least adapted enough episodes for Ayanokouji to learn the meaning of love.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:08 AM

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Aaaand add this to my list of successful December marathons. This series was...interesting. It didn't start that way mind you. The first 3 episodes seemed particularly slow. With obvious twists like the whole points thing and Kushida having a dark side taking waaaay too long to get revealed. It got better as it went along though thankfully, bizarre fanservice episode 7 aside. And I quite enjoyed watching the last arc unfold. Or as I like to call it: Lord of the Flies with a Great Panty Thief Interlude Mixed With a Dose of Careful Icarus. By which I mean:


:D And watching that reveal at the end was fairly satisfying. Honestly going in I was expecting this to be over the top Kakegurui kinda crazy shenanigans. Again those early episodes didn't really turn out that way but there was some ridiculousness by the end. Character wise they were all more or less fine considering what they were designed to do. The vast majority of the girls had big beautiful tits, which is a plus in my book, and our semi-maniacal monotone mc was alright. Though his final little reveal of being somewhat psychotic fell flat for me. There were those over the top ones too of course, that foreign bodyguard of the Class C head springs to mind. All in all not a bad watch. I'd probably check out more if it was coming but I'm fine either way. I'm feeling a 6 for this one but I guess I'll be nice and say 7/10.
Dec 19, 2017 6:19 AM

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- fairly terrible set of characters
- cliches on top of cliches
- weird pacing
- complete and utter lack of logical actions and decisions
- tasteless fan service galore
- filler

Overall a cringe filled adventure.

Hmm i couldn't agree more with this statement.

It has moments but on the same time there's alot of shitfest in it. Sure it's psychological but i don't find it like that.

There's alot of stereotypes going on ofc that includes the character.
In summary
Class A filled with rich like people that's diversed for some reason. Despite calling the highly as best class they still cheat for no reason.
Class B filled with good people stereotypes, there's only 1 or 2 character that gain highlight there nothing else to add other than "alliance" type.
Class C filled with assholes or punk which pretty much reflect their teacher even on all classes. Unrealistic people and decision again.
Class D likewise special yet a bad designs already seen because you could pretty much remove 80% of them and nothing would change because they're a background character with just being plain bad while and they don't even have character development other than cliche stereotypes.

Story itself is amusing but i felt like it lost it way somewhere on 4 onwards like people starting to become a dick each other because it somehow logical to knock down each other? Yeah i hate this kind of human.
2 heroines a dere and a bitch felt kinda annoying as fuck which i guess it was purposely introduced like that.
Least our hero Doing great with his background and orchestrating the whole schemes.

But again there's nothing "amazing or great" in this one, i don't find it unique other than the school system with alot of abuseable flaws.

Not sure whether to rate it 1 or 9.
Should i just leave it unrated or 1+9 then divide it by 2?

I think Kagekurui entertain me more than this one despite the hate for both anime least Kagekurui only had an obvious downside which is gamblegasm with overpowered MC.

Ofc talk about summer show there's alot some i haven't watched least this one is on the middle tier score.
Dec 19, 2017 5:33 PM

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At first, I was actually curious about what this anime had to offer. The concept isn't bad, but the anime seems to introduce this concept without actually furthering it by any means. I felt like there were holes in the plot constantly, irrational thinking for such "elite" students, and more questions posed than answers. I honestly wouldn't have been disappointed if this was somehow 24 episodes if they actually got around to filling out any of the backstory,
Dec 21, 2017 12:25 PM

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Holy shit that ending!!! Now I really want a second season!
Dec 23, 2017 3:56 PM
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There was not much of Arisu this season. She's the most interesting and mysterious character of the series. Hopefully, she gets more screen time next season if they decide to make one.

Overall, I gave this anime a chance and it was worth it. I like the designs of the background characters. The story had a weird pacing. It went from school drama to a Survivor-esque stortyline. By survivor I mean the actual Survivor TV series.

Ayanokouji has more secrets that need to be revealed next season.
Dec 28, 2017 10:32 AM

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Yeah, as the other's said this anime got some flaws.
But that wasn't that much so it's still above average for me.
Anyway I'm gonna rate this anime a 7 out of 10 score overall.
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Dec 31, 2017 11:15 PM

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Was really enjoying the show until episode 7, where they apparently couldn't recover from filler fever. Keep on going and everything bit by bit loses substance. Notice how the further you progress, the more it looks like the average harem/high school. They also can't make decent flash back scenes, since apparently having Ayanokouji sitting in a white room doing nothing progresses the story in episode 11 or 12. Unless the anime is getting dreadfully close to the source material, this is pretty annoying.
Jan 1, 2018 7:16 PM

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Was really enjoying the show until episode 7, where they apparently couldn't recover from filler fever. Keep on going and everything bit by bit loses substance. Notice how the further you progress, the more it looks like the average harem/high school. They also can't make decent flash back scenes, since apparently having Ayanokouji sitting in a white room doing nothing progresses the story in episode 11 or 12. Unless the anime is getting dreadfully close to the source material, this is pretty annoying.


It was not even close to the source material, they were adapting volume 3 and at the time the novel had 6 volumes released, the anime was okay but they butchered the source material, better wait fo the novel to get more volumes translated and then check it out.

PS: The flashbacks also were anime original since the white room is rarely mentioned in the novel.
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I really hope there's another season of this. I love the MC. I'm so used to the typical bland and dumb MCs of LN anime that this character ended up really surprising me. I thought he would start off cool but end up falling for all the girls around him eventually. He reminds me of Light from Death Note with his manipulating and cunning personality.

The finale was good to me, but overall the series was lacking. They only had 12 episodes to work with so I expected it to be a bit more fast-paced, but instead they gave us a cliff hanger waiting for the next season. They definitely could have cut some scenes and shortened others so they could give some other characters a bit more backstory.

I'd still recommend this anime to others though, and if a new season comes out I'll be here watching it!
Jan 3, 2018 8:29 AM

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Oh my god that ending.. please bless us with season 2 ! Ending kinda broke my heart though as I want Ayanokouji to conquer all 'em girls, including Suzune, and to see that he has never accepted her even though she's opening up to him is just sad.

From what I read, this is kind of a bad adaptation, changes were made, developments from other characters were shafted to focus on Suzune, etc. I wish it would've been more loyal to the source materials but I myself don't mind more Suzune development, though preferably not at the expense of other characters.

Reading the episode discussion threads is also kind of depressing, so many people were hating on it, it's like a hive mind, glad I don't follow episodes weekly anymore, much less talk about it with other people, it's easy to get sucked into the hating trend.

But ye, I hope we get to have a season 2 of this, I've enjoyed this immensely, largely due to Ayanokouji though.
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Oh my god that ending.. please bless us with season 2 ! Ending kinda broke my heart though as I want Ayanokouji to conquer all 'em girls, including Suzune, and to see that he has never accepted her even though she's opening up to him is just sad.

From what I read, this is kind of a bad adaptation, changes were made, developments from other characters were shafted to focus on Suzune, etc. I wish it would've been more loyal to the source materials but I myself don't mind more Suzune development, though preferably not at the expense of other characters.

Reading the episode discussion threads is also kind of depressing, so many people were hating on it, it's like a hive mind, glad I don't follow episodes weekly anymore, much less talk about it with other people, it's easy to get sucked into the hating trend.

But ye, I hope we get to have a season 2 of this, I've enjoyed this immensely, largely due to Ayanokouji though.


You will love a second season. The anime stopped in volume 3 of the LN and it's precisely in volumes 5 and 6 that Horikita has her development as a character. Unfortunately the first season was a poor adaptation in terms of speed and presentation of the characters, they changed the places of the characters and their personalities, besides the forcing on the romance between AyanokoujixHorikita. The regret was so large that to try to improve the sale of BluRay they released various promotional materials based on Karuizawa.
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ToG25thBaam said:
Oh my god that ending.. please bless us with season 2 ! Ending kinda broke my heart though as I want Ayanokouji to conquer all 'em girls, including Suzune, and to see that he has never accepted her even though she's opening up to him is just sad.

From what I read, this is kind of a bad adaptation, changes were made, developments from other characters were shafted to focus on Suzune, etc. I wish it would've been more loyal to the source materials but I myself don't mind more Suzune development, though preferably not at the expense of other characters.

Reading the episode discussion threads is also kind of depressing, so many people were hating on it, it's like a hive mind, glad I don't follow episodes weekly anymore, much less talk about it with other people, it's easy to get sucked into the hating trend.

But ye, I hope we get to have a season 2 of this, I've enjoyed this immensely, largely due to Ayanokouji though.


You will love a second season. The anime stopped in volume 3 of the LN and it's precisely in volumes 5 and 6 that Horikita has her development as a character. Unfortunately the first season was a poor adaptation in terms of speed and presentation of the characters, they changed the places of the characters and their personalities, besides the forcing on the romance between AyanokoujixHorikita. The regret was so large that to try to improve the sale of BluRay they released various promotional materials based on Karuizawa.


No if they actually decide to make season 2 it will be great, but not because of Horikta scenes at all. It will be great because of a certain girl scenes with the mc and one or two scene where mc shows his skills. One of those scenes will include that certain girl and if that gets animated like damn it will be cool.
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You will love a second season. The anime stopped in volume 3 of the LN and it's precisely in volumes 5 and 6 that Horikita has her development as a character. Unfortunately the first season was a poor adaptation in terms of speed and presentation of the characters, they changed the places of the characters and their personalities, besides the forcing on the romance between AyanokoujixHorikita. The regret was so large that to try to improve the sale of BluRay they released various promotional materials based on Karuizawa.


No if they actually decide to make season 2 it will be great, but not because of Horikta scenes at all. It will be great because of a certain girl scenes with the mc and one or two scene where mc shows his skills. One of those scenes will include that certain girl and if that gets animated like damn it will be cool.


Also I wouldn't say Horikta fans would like that development in volume 5 that much since the person she is developing with isn't very liked by her fans.
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Also I wouldn't say Horikta fans would like that development in volume 5 that much since the person she is developing with isn't very liked by her fans.
Yeah I've seen spoiler on that and I am not fond of it at all. Hopefully it doesn't develop down that path romantically.

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You will love a second season. The anime stopped in volume 3 of the LN and it's precisely in volumes 5 and 6 that Horikita has her development as a character. Unfortunately the first season was a poor adaptation in terms of speed and presentation of the characters, they changed the places of the characters and their personalities, besides the forcing on the romance between AyanokoujixHorikita. The regret was so large that to try to improve the sale of BluRay they released various promotional materials based on Karuizawa.
Hopefully the hope of season two is still alive, I am not sure how well the sales are doing right now, but I think the studio staffs have heard of the complaints from the source readers, if only the sales could justify having a sequel, I am positive the anime staffs will not make the same mistake.
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Was really enjoying the show until episode 7, where they apparently couldn't recover from filler fever. Keep on going and everything bit by bit loses substance. Notice how the further you progress, the more it looks like the average harem/high school. They also can't make decent flash back scenes, since apparently having Ayanokouji sitting in a white room doing nothing progresses the story in episode 11 or 12. Unless the anime is getting dreadfully close to the source material, this is pretty annoying.


It was not even close to the source material, they were adapting volume 3 and at the time the novel had 6 volumes released, the anime was okay but they butchered the source material, better wait fo the novel to get more volumes translated and then check it out.

PS: The flashbacks also were anime original since the white room is rarely mentioned in the novel.


Good to hear that it was only the adaptation. I think I'll read the novel.
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Also I wouldn't say Horikta fans would like that development in volume 5 that much since the person she is developing with isn't very liked by her fans.
Yeah I've seen spoiler on that and I am not fond of it at all. Hopefully it doesn't develop down that path romantically.

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You will love a second season. The anime stopped in volume 3 of the LN and it's precisely in volumes 5 and 6 that Horikita has her development as a character. Unfortunately the first season was a poor adaptation in terms of speed and presentation of the characters, they changed the places of the characters and their personalities, besides the forcing on the romance between AyanokoujixHorikita. The regret was so large that to try to improve the sale of BluRay they released various promotional materials based on Karuizawa.
Hopefully the hope of season two is still alive, I am not sure how well the sales are doing right now, but I think the studio staffs have heard of the complaints from the source readers, if only the sales could justify having a sequel, I am positive the anime staffs will not make the same mistake.


BluRay sales were a failure. However Light Novel is a sales success. A good thing for Youjitsu is that the producer did not pay for almost anything of the anime's expenses, so the BluRay sales are insignificant compared to LN's sales in the case of a new season. Since the Kadokawa did pay for almost everthing expenses
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big reveal at the end did not fascinate me all too well. to be quite frank it was predictably boring and pretenious. there were many empty-headed characters with oversized chests that didn't contribute enough to be elites. as a matter of fact this anime was hypocritical in its implications and also insulting to the viewer with enough brainpower to see through this facade. true i have a limited amount of chromosomes, but what these characters shown regarding their high level of smartness was nothing overwhelming to hold you well. i really hope the general anime watchers aren't soo blind as to fall for cheap tricks. then again i was proven wrong since this anime did have good character designs, okay backgrounds and the philosophical catch at a 101 entry level was enough to warrant this more points than it deserved. mindblown in more than one way. ep12 wasn't as much of a letdown than the sum of its parts.
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big reveal at the end did not fascinate me all too well. to be quite frank it was predictably boring and pretenious. there were many empty-headed characters with oversized chests that didn't contribute enough to be elites. as a matter of fact this anime was hypocritical in its implications and also insulting to the viewer with enough brainpower to see through this facade. true i have a limited amount of chromosomes, but what these characters shown regarding their high level of smartness was nothing overwhelming to hold you well. i really hope the general anime watchers aren't soo blind as to fall for cheap tricks. then again i was proven wrong since this anime did have good character designs, okay backgrounds and the philosophical catch at a 101 entry level was enough to warrant this more points than it deserved. mindblown in more than one way. ep12 wasn't as much of a letdown than the sum of its parts.


Which reveal were you talking about? I saw through the whole spy thing from the same episode especially when you saw the tree branch marked.


The reveal that threw me out was the very last line in the episode when he said "As long as I win in the end". That changed his entire character. Throughout the series I saw him as just the genius, strong strategist that wants to keep a low profile and get on with his life and avoid whatever negative outside influence was having on him.

That all changed when he said that very last line because that just revealed him as a legitimate Psychopath (not the "crazy psycho" - look up ASPD). He doesn't fake his emotions, he just hides or suppresses them but he does fit all the other traits (e.g. lacking empathy, deceitful, manipulative, disregard for others, self-direction, etcetera). He's not a Sociopath because he plans things out very well ahead of time and Sociopaths do not make such plans.


Overall it was a bittersweet ending for me, that last lines that revealed his character made me extremely interested in his character and what sucks is to find out how poorly the anime did because of some problems the fans in Japan were having. I guess hope for a season 2 is bleak but maybe if the LN sales continue getting more sales the boycott might end up causing some good in forcing someone (the LN studio?) to get another season up (whether that be with the same studio or a different one). I mean this has happened before, yahari ore no seishun got a season 2 from a different studio.
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Honestly the anime is very interesting since the MC isn't your typical weak (especially to girls), shy and hesitant type of guy which is, in other words, cliche and annoying. Also, the story was very well written too. And myb i'll consider readig the LN
Feb 15, 2018 8:19 PM

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I can see what people are saying about the direction, it did seem all over the place. And I think I'd prefer it if the premise was what I first assumed, that individuals move through classes. That other people can drag the whole class down seems pretty dodgy but whatever it's just a silly girl cartoon.

I did like the main character though. Even before he revealed he was a little OP he just had a unique vibe to him, the permanent poker face helped. I dunno about the Hachiman comparisons, he just felt fundamentally different to me from ep 1. More intrinsically likeable and less edgy (until the very last scene but I guess he has that whole fucked up past Hachiman doesn't). Was just a chill fuckin guy who let inertia dictate what he did, which is why I'm not sure how I feel about the cliffhanger edginess. But I guess that's his vague scary past talking and ya can't do anything about it now. Oh well, I guess how he messed with everyone in the island challenge was pretty slick. +1 point just for that, 7/10 and I'll probably just look up some LN spoilers rather than waiting for more.
Feb 20, 2018 8:33 AM
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pretty nice ending to the arc.

edgy monologue at the end.

agree with others. doesnt feel like a complete ending to the anime and doubt there will be a season 2. stillllll stuck in class d
Feb 20, 2018 5:02 PM
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Good anime , i hope there is season 2 in in this anime
Feb 21, 2018 5:55 PM
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TBH I really don't understand all the hate for Ayanooji. I thought this was a well-executed finale to a pretty interesting show and I couldn't help but get fully sucked in to the idea of this school.

The reason I loved the monologue at the end is because Horikita is garbage. Where the author does well is that he and the characters fully acknowledge and are aware of this fact. Its not like Sky Wizards Academy, or Blade Dance, where garbage characters are loved for the sake of the plot. Here, Horikita is disliked by everyone because she just plain sucks. She's a fruitless failure who talks down to others and dreams big of A class, but who herself is so filled with issues that she doesn't believe she has. For the life of her, she can't figure out why her brother hates her, despite the fact that it is clear as day. And I as the viewer really dislike her. She's arrogant, slipshod, and holds some high and mighty values of her own that get in the way of everything and everyone.

She does not deserve the MC's love, which is why when he started that monologue where she was just a tool, that elevated this series so much in my eyes. He knew she was a useless piece of garbage who talks a big game, so he used that to his advantage, had her lose the card, and fail ("its better to let them try and fail then to not let them try at all") to get the most genuine reaction, then play change the leader. Was freaking amazing.

I want him to get together with Sakura. That would be a wonderful couple haha
Feb 22, 2018 3:04 AM
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callmetheBigD said:
TBH I really don't understand all the hate for Ayanooji. I thought this was a well-executed finale to a pretty interesting show and I couldn't help but get fully sucked in to the idea of this school.

The reason I loved the monologue at the end is because Horikita is garbage. Where the author does well is that he and the characters fully acknowledge and are aware of this fact. Its not like Sky Wizards Academy, or Blade Dance, where garbage characters are loved for the sake of the plot. Here, Horikita is disliked by everyone because she just plain sucks. She's a fruitless failure who talks down to others and dreams big of A class, but who herself is so filled with issues that she doesn't believe she has. For the life of her, she can't figure out why her brother hates her, despite the fact that it is clear as day. And I as the viewer really dislike her. She's arrogant, slipshod, and holds some high and mighty values of her own that get in the way of everything and everyone.

She does not deserve the MC's love, which is why when he started that monologue where she was just a tool, that elevated this series so much in my eyes. He knew she was a useless piece of garbage who talks a big game, so he used that to his advantage, had her lose the card, and fail ("its better to let them try and fail then to not let them try at all") to get the most genuine reaction, then play change the leader. Was freaking amazing.

I want him to get together with Sakura. That would be a wonderful couple haha

Well on one side you should be happy since Horikta won't end up with the mc, but on the other sde sad since Sakura also won't end up with the mc.
Apr 28, 2018 4:00 AM
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the only good thing abut this anime is those last few minutes. lol. what a shitty anime
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May 4, 2018 12:51 PM

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This show reminded me a lot of SNAFU, which I watched last October, and it made me remember how much I enjoyed that show, especially the mc. The mc for this show, literally made the show. Really liked him as a character, and I would be glad if this gets a sequel, as I don't read light novels.

8/10
May 6, 2018 3:25 PM

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3/10 - This show was trash, typical for Lerche. But for some reason, it was also compelling to watch at times. And then the show ends right where the plot was starting to ramp up. Too bad trash like this will probably never see a second season. But if it does, I will watch it, and rate it a 3 as well.

Everything was so poorly executed. The concept was interesting; but the purpose behind the hierarchy was never explained. So by gaining class points and ranking your class up, you get more money- so what? What's the purpose and importance behind that? (Even Kakegurui did a much better job at showing the importance of student hierarchy). And the mechanics behind the system were also never explained well. And the only way to earn points is through rather petty/boring/insignificant methods: "B a gud student" "urn gud grades" "dnt start fites." And then D class has to save that delinquent red-hair guy's ass twice from being expelled; only because they assumed "no expulsions" is a requirement for getting to A class. Then the last four episodes during the survival test arc-- the story telling here was beyond awful. They spend 2 whole episodes sidetracked on a fucking panty theif; then when it's time to reveal the test results, they have to explain everything that ACTUALLY happened through 5min of flashbacks. Literally the only redeeming quality of this show was the MC's clever plots.
May 12, 2018 8:16 AM

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I really liked it but it really needs a season 2! 8/10.
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May 13, 2018 4:38 PM
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At the end I was like: WAAAAAAT?! WTF AYANOKOUJI?! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CUTE WITH HER, or at least not crazy af T.T
Oh well,now we need a season 2...
May 14, 2018 5:48 PM
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This really is a piece of trash. It was confusing and utterly boring. It tries to be sophisticated similar to OREGAIRU but completely fails to do so.
May 18, 2018 2:15 AM
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mislavXDDD said:
callmetheBigD said:
TBH I really don't understand all the hate for Ayanooji. I thought this was a well-executed finale to a pretty interesting show and I couldn't help but get fully sucked in to the idea of this school.

The reason I loved the monologue at the end is because Horikita is garbage. Where the author does well is that he and the characters fully acknowledge and are aware of this fact. Its not like Sky Wizards Academy, or Blade Dance, where garbage characters are loved for the sake of the plot. Here, Horikita is disliked by everyone because she just plain sucks. She's a fruitless failure who talks down to others and dreams big of A class, but who herself is so filled with issues that she doesn't believe she has. For the life of her, she can't figure out why her brother hates her, despite the fact that it is clear as day. And I as the viewer really dislike her. She's arrogant, slipshod, and holds some high and mighty values of her own that get in the way of everything and everyone.

She does not deserve the MC's love, which is why when he started that monologue where she was just a tool, that elevated this series so much in my eyes. He knew she was a useless piece of garbage who talks a big game, so he used that to his advantage, had her lose the card, and fail ("its better to let them try and fail then to not let them try at all") to get the most genuine reaction, then play change the leader. Was freaking amazing.

I want him to get together with Sakura. That would be a wonderful couple haha

Well on one side you should be happy since Horikta won't end up with the mc, but on the other sde sad since Sakura also won't end up with the mc.
Then who do you think he will end up with?
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DeathMitaka said:
mislavXDDD said:

Well on one side you should be happy since Horikta won't end up with the mc, but on the other sde sad since Sakura also won't end up with the mc.
Then who do you think he will end up with?

Kei Karuizawa because of their interactions, recent developments, foreshadowing, chemistry. Also because romance is a sub genre for the ln and it seems every romantic hint connected to the mc is hers. I could be wrong, but the more stuff we get the more it seems over in romance department since I really don't see anyone catching up to her.
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mislavXDDD said:
DeathMitaka said:
Then who do you think he will end up with?

Kei Karuizawa because of their interactions, recent developments, foreshadowing, chemistry. Also because romance is a sub genre for the ln and it seems every romantic hint connected to the mc is hers. I could be wrong, but the more stuff we get the more it seems over in romance department since I really don't see anyone catching up to her.
Yeah!! I also think the same by reading the LN.
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