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Jan 16, 2013 11:19 AM
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DrGonzo7 said:
Aoyama all the way. Shiina is nothing more than the stereotypical kuudere character while Aoyama has so much more personality and she fits more as a girlfriend character than Shiina.


Shiina all the way. Aoyama is nothing more than stereotypical tsundere character etc. etc. etc.
Really, it easily goes both ways.
Except that tsunderes are far more frequent nowadays.
Jan 16, 2013 5:14 PM

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pizza_012 said:


Secondly, practically speaking, She's not gonna be a pain in ass like Shiina who doesn't even know how to take care of herself/ lacks common sense (Well, no offense to all Shiina fans/shippers but i think that's the truth if we'll put it practically)



I'll refute this by saying that although Shiina doesn't know 2-cents about taking care of herself, she (in recent episodes) is desperately learning something to do that! She is trying to reach to another dimension (in her viewpoint). She, at least from we can tell, has NEVER done anything like making lunches, cleaning clothes, household chores etc., but she's slowly understanding that she needs to learn this new dimension of activities to get near Kanda. That being said, Aoyama is definitely working hard and she deserves SOMETHING, but the way Shiina desperately needs Kanda (and vice versa, or eventually), might edge Aoyama's efforts.


I personally love both girls, but Shiina takes the cake when it comes to cuteness. Aoyama definitely wins in effort, but not as much as some people may put it. Her efforts are for her goals and not for Kanda, personally. Wanted to clarify that, too.

If she was working to become a voice actor for Kanda's game, then we might have something here. Then again, fans of Bakuman might call for copyright infringement or something.
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Jan 16, 2013 7:04 PM

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I don't want to be blunt but no matter what you want at the end it'll be Sorete x Shina, because that's how this kind of things work.

I prefer the cats, they're pretty hot.
Jan 16, 2013 11:59 PM

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HacheKa said:
I don't want to be blunt but no matter what you want at the end it'll be Sorete x Shina, because that's how this kind of things work.

I prefer the cats, they're pretty hot.

it is pretty obvious and anyone with half a brain would see that , the topic is for who you like better ..?
Jan 17, 2013 4:33 AM

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tsudecimo said:

it is pretty obvious and anyone with half a brain would see that , the topic is for who you like better ..?

HacheKa said:
I prefer the cats, they're pretty hot.

I already covered that too.

To be fair, both have their good points, Mashiro is the lovely type (kind of retarded) and Nanami is more the sweet tsundere and hotter type (kind of annoying), well both are better than Misaki, a win for everyone.
I'd prefer a Yuri ending, that bastard doesn't deserve love from any human being nor cats, especially not from cats.
Jan 17, 2013 8:04 PM

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HacheKa said:

I'd prefer a Yuri ending, that bastard doesn't deserve love from any human being nor cats, especially not from cats.


That's kinda mean! I mean, I'm sure Kanda will have some kind of good point. Later. Maybe.

Who am I kidding?

Come to papa, Nanamin~ Shiina~
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Jan 22, 2013 5:59 PM
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DrGonzo7 said:
Aoyama all the way. Shiina is nothing more than the stereotypical kuudere character while Aoyama has so much more personality and she fits more as a girlfriend character than Shiina.


Shiina all the way. Aoyama is nothing more than stereotypical tsundere character etc. etc. etc.
Really, it easily goes both ways.
Except that tsunderes are far more frequent nowadays.

Yeah but at least she isn't like those annoying Tsunderes. She's very charming in that sense.
Jan 23, 2013 3:59 AM

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Definitely Aoyama, Shiina is about as interesting as my ceiling whereas Aoyama is worth paying attention to.
Jan 23, 2013 5:14 AM

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I like them both!!! If I had to choose one for a date, i would've chosen Aoyama so I voted for her, by a slim margin !!
Jan 25, 2013 2:04 AM

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Aoyama is getting less and less annoying each episode.
Jan 27, 2013 8:00 AM

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Shiina by far.
Feb 6, 2013 8:36 AM

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At first I feel that Aoyama was in the way, and just sucked over all and I was all for Mashiro. But I'd say after the Christmas episode (or what ever you want to call it I forget the ep #) then Shiina and Aoyama switched places... for me at least.

I feel that Aoyama just cares so much more for him, and has for a long time while Shiina doesn't even know what is going on when her heart is beating. Don't get me wrong I really love shiinas charter... but still... IDK Aoyama really grew on me
Feb 6, 2013 8:37 AM

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I don't really like either but if I had to pick I would say Aoyama. Shiina is just way too annoying, I can't imagine what it would be like babysitting a 16 year old chick where you literally have to do everything that someone with common sense would know how to for her. Must be hell.

I feel sorry for the protagonist.
Feb 6, 2013 9:01 AM

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AlexGK said:
I dont get the poll, obviously Misaki is the best. The rest dont even come close to her.


This!

Although I'd chose Nanami in this poll. I don't dislike Mashiro, but I like Nanami more. I also feel like Mashiro had some advantage in her relationship with Sorata because she couldn't do anything when she came in Japan and Sorata needed to help her at almost everything. I also feel like Nanami x Sorata is more natural. Which high school cannot dress herself and needs a boy from the same age to help her
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Feb 6, 2013 9:13 AM
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If think about it, Aoyama and Sorata makes the perfect couple but saying that I don't want an Heart breaker with Shiina. I would rather prefer this triangle love to continued until the end.
Feb 6, 2013 11:27 AM

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I already posted in this thread but since I couldn't find my post I'll re-post it.
Aoyama because of her ponytail + Kansai accent.
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Feb 6, 2013 1:43 PM

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I like both of them but if I had to choose... it would be Aoyama. I dunno why but I think she would be perfect for Sorata at the moment. Yeah Shiina is cute and everything but I dunno if she would be perfect for Sorata. So I'm looking forward for the next episodes
Feb 6, 2013 2:01 PM

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ShiChan said:
Yeah Shiina is cute and everything but I dunno if she would be perfect for Sorata.

He likes taking care so she is.
Feb 6, 2013 2:40 PM
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He should date the cats.
Feb 6, 2013 3:02 PM

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Shiina's personality is anything but cute, its fucking annoying that she needs babysitting 24/7 at the age of 16.

I bet most of you wouldn't wanna go out with a chick you just met with mental problems no matter how hot she is, unless you're desperate.
Feb 6, 2013 3:06 PM
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Nidalee said:
Shiina's personality is anything but cute, its fucking annoying that she needs babysitting 24/7 at the age of 16.

I bet most of you wouldn't wanna go out with a chick you just met with mental problems no matter how hot she is, unless you're desperate.

She's actually developed into a somewhat independent character and will only continue to do so. Regardless, she doesn't constantly need Sorata's help anymore.
Feb 6, 2013 3:16 PM

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It was exaggerated.

But in any case, I'm actually surprised that Shiina is winning the poll. I didn't know people prefer a chick without common sense or any personality to a hard working girl with a decent personality.

I'm neutral towards Aoyama, due to her tsundere traits during the beginning. But I'm beginning to like her more as the show progress.
Feb 6, 2013 3:27 PM
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Nidalee said:
It was exaggerated.

But in any case, I'm actually surprised that Shiina is winning the poll. I didn't know people prefer a chick without common sense or any personality to a hard working girl with a decent personality.

I'm neutral towards Aoyama, due to her tsundere traits during the beginning. But I'm beginning to like her more as the show progress.

Mashiro, IMO, is a very interesting character that has a lot of potential for development, which has partially occurred already, while Aoyama is simply a cliche third wheel that is one of the more annoying and pointless tsunderes that I've seen in quite some time. Plus, Aoyama's inability to do anything but embarrassingly blush and find every single hint of affection between Mashiro and Sorata as something insanely indecent isn't my idea of an engaging personality. Also, they're both hard working with their careers; it's just that Aoyama would make a "pefect housewife", which is really dull.
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Well I kinda agree with you on that, this entire show is cliched as hell but that's besides the point. Since this is your generic rom com you can expect all virgin main cast so you will have them taking indecent stuff a little too seriously. So Aoyama overreacting don't really bother me as I've seen it way too many times.

Shiina, like you said is an interesting character, but I still don't like her. It's just me but I generally don't like people without common sense. One of the main reason I prefer Aoyama.
Feb 6, 2013 3:38 PM
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Both characters are developing nicely. Deal with it.
Feb 6, 2013 7:41 PM
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gaiusbaltar24 said:
Nidalee said:
It was exaggerated.

But in any case, I'm actually surprised that Shiina is winning the poll. I didn't know people prefer a chick without common sense or any personality to a hard working girl with a decent personality.

I'm neutral towards Aoyama, due to her tsundere traits during the beginning. But I'm beginning to like her more as the show progress.

Mashiro, IMO, is a very interesting character that has a lot of potential for development, which has partially occurred already, while Aoyama is simply a cliche third wheel that is one of the more annoying and pointless tsunderes that I've seen in quite some time. Plus, Aoyama's inability to do anything but embarrassingly blush and find every single hint of affection between Mashiro and Sorata as something insanely indecent isn't my idea of an engaging personality. Also, they're both hard working with their careers; it's just that Aoyama would make a "pefect housewife", which is really dull.


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Feb 6, 2013 7:56 PM
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Kinda amazing this thread is still going on.
Feb 12, 2013 11:39 AM

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Nidalee said:
Well I kinda agree with you on that, this entire show is cliched as hell but that's besides the point. Since this is your generic rom com you can expect all virgin main cast so you will have them taking indecent stuff a little too seriously. So Aoyama overreacting don't really bother me as I've seen it way too many times.

Shiina, like you said is an interesting character, but I still don't like her. It's just me but I generally don't like people without common sense. One of the main reason I prefer Aoyama.


Yeah sometimes i wonder why people like girls without common sense even though it's cute, cuteness is all they care about -.- *sigh* people these days...

I agreed with you on that. I also like Aoyama as well.
Feb 12, 2013 11:22 PM

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Aoyama needs more love- Meatball Beam!

Feb 13, 2013 7:01 AM

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Lol, look at all the Shiinafags.
Feb 13, 2013 12:39 PM
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When this love fest is over? Getting way too long!
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ILuvMisaki said:
Lol, look at all the Shiinafags.


Aww look at dat Aoymoa fan butthurt Shinna
Feb 13, 2013 3:14 PM

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Well by now I can finally vote. Nanamin by far, I do still like Shiina somewhat though.
Feb 13, 2013 3:22 PM

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ShiChan said:
I like both of them but if I had to choose... it would be Aoyama. I dunno why but I think she would be perfect for Sorata at the moment. Yeah Shiina is cute and everything but I dunno if she would be perfect for Sorata. So I'm looking forward for the next episodes
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Mar 11, 2013 2:49 PM
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i made an account just so i can vote for aoyama
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I'm hoping the most for Aoyama to have her way with him, but of course, everything's hinting at Shiina in the end, so I'm kind of settled for that. Might partly be the reason why I don't seem to enjoy it as much as Toradora, even though I don't think we should compare the two.. Still, it's a sweet show, but that's about it.
Mar 11, 2013 5:35 PM
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As long as the poll keeps working.
Mar 11, 2013 5:46 PM

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i made an account just so i can vote for aoyama


TY, TY

Meatball Beam! \(^.^)/

Mar 11, 2013 7:27 PM
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Not bad, Aoyama catching up. I guess people got tired of Shiina at the end?
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Mar 11, 2013 7:51 PM

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Not bad, Aoyama catching up. I guess people got tired of Shiina at the end?

1020 : 210 They sure got.
Mar 12, 2013 12:23 AM

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Aoyama all the way. I think their personalities suit and complement each other. They're both hardworking individuals, they've been with each other through their ups and downs, and they are familiar with each others personalities. Although she can't step up and directly tell Sorata how she feels, it's normal for some girls to be shy, embarrass or have this lack of courage to confess. Sorata is just numb or ignorant to neglect/miss the hints being left by Aoyama.

Shiina would just pile up Sorata's stress and workload. He wont be able to prioritize his game projects and competitions because he would have to take care of Shiina's chores and lifestyle. Sure, Shiina has a "unique" personality... unique meaning, overly naive, ignorant, lacks common sense and monotonous. Additionally, Sorata would just end up getting jealous constantly over her achievements, making history repeat itself.

Dont get me wrong, I don't hate Shiina, I just don't like her as a romantic partner for Sorata, but just a friend. It doesn't matter, Shiina is still going to win over the poll and the guy. lol
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Mar 12, 2013 9:34 AM

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I like them both, but Shiina wins, no question.

Aoyama is too annoying, Shiina might be "retarded" (please don't kill me), but she is cute and innocent.

Misaki isn't even interesting in my opinion.
Mar 12, 2013 10:10 AM

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I'm hoping the most for Aoyama to have her way with him, but of course, everything's hinting at Shiina in the end, so I'm kind of settled for that. Might partly be the reason why I don't seem to enjoy it as much as Toradora, even though I don't think we should compare the two.. Still, it's a sweet show, but that's about it.

What. Minorin is best.
Aoyama is just okay, but she does fit Sorata much better than Shiina.
Mar 12, 2013 11:10 AM

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Well, aoyama lost. It was a good game, even if it was very one sided
Mar 12, 2013 9:19 PM
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Disappointed that aoyama lost, she was clearly the better person.
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adeshina365 said:
Disappointed that aoyama lost, she was clearly the better person.

Haha. Nope.
Mar 13, 2013 3:35 AM

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Aoyama all the way. I think their personalities suit and complement each other. They're both hardworking individuals, they've been with each other through their ups and downs, and they are familiar with each others personalities. Although she can't step up and directly tell Sorata how she feels, it's normal for some girls to be shy, embarrass or have this lack of courage to confess. Sorata is just numb or ignorant to neglect/miss the hints being left by Aoyama.

Shiina would just pile up Sorata's stress and workload. He wont be able to prioritize his game projects and competitions because he would have to take care of Shiina's chores and lifestyle. Sure, Shiina has a "unique" personality... unique meaning, overly naive, ignorant, lacks common sense and monotonous. Additionally, Sorata would just end up getting jealous constantly over her achievements, making history repeat itself.

Dont get me wrong, I don't hate Shiina, I just don't like her as a romantic partner for Sorata, but just a friend. It doesn't matter, Shiina is still going to win over the poll and the guy. lol
This.
Mar 13, 2013 12:32 PM

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I feel that Nanami is a better developed character than Mashiro and that she is a more suitable girlfriend for Sorata. In terms of personal preference though, I prefer Mashiro (can't get enough of dandere characters XD).

Mar 14, 2013 7:24 PM

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i think shiina takes advantage because of early ep's.. i only like shiina for comedy purposes.. from start to last i vote for aoyama..

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adeshina365 said:
Disappointed that aoyama lost, she was clearly the better person.


How delicious those tears must be! :P
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