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DarcyD said: I don't know why everyone is hating on this episode though, it wasn't that bad... I think they're just criticizing this episode, not hating it. |
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| Still faithful to the manga. Next week it should be mostly focused on Mika, but should also get introduced to Kimizuki. Every time I watch the OP, it's so focused on Krul Tepes that I'm like becoming obsessed with her and I keep thinking that they're going to totally change the story to have more involved even though they wont, lol chakracat said: He's a vampire? This is really giving off an Aldnoah Zero vibe. Believe me, it's not. Honestly I don't even see what comparison you're trying to make...but don't. You'll be way off. Sankyu_ said: Watching this episode was pure suffering, can't believe i actually finished it. This anime is a literal piece of shit. When you blurt stupid shit like that, yet stay and watch it religiously every week, it sounds like you're trying too hard to win retard of the year award. |
gedata said: You shouldn't, you should let that character's path play out and then make an assessment based on the whole picture. Though, there are certainly anime that don't bother to try and set their characters up for development, so I do think this deserves slight praise in that sense. Would you rather have a Gary Stu or Godsuya, or an arrogant brat that is very clearly being exposed to the path to growth?AlexTheRiot said: But does it set up the character? Setting up character isn't praise in my opinion. Why should I be nice to something just for having a beginning? |
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| The MC atm is just turrible. >give me that weapon nigga, the fuck? |
| i was surprised shinoa told those delinquents that their friend could possibly get the death penalty. isn't that the exact opposite of what the japanese imperial army is trying to accomplish? why kill off a healthy kid who was just playing around? i think it's hilarious how the people who complain about this show every week will continue to watch this show every week |
orchidork said: Well I was told by multiple people it's supposed to start off bad but gets real fun.i was surprised shinoa told those delinquents that their friend could possibly get the death penalty. isn't that the exact opposite of what the japanese imperial army is trying to accomplish? why kill off a healthy kid who was just playing around? i think it's hilarious how the people who complain about this show every week will continue to watch this show every week |
GreenBenjamin said: orchidork said: Well I was told by multiple people it's supposed to start off bad but gets real fun.i was surprised shinoa told those delinquents that their friend could possibly get the death penalty. isn't that the exact opposite of what the japanese imperial army is trying to accomplish? why kill off a healthy kid who was just playing around? i think it's hilarious how the people who complain about this show every week will continue to watch this show every week Well, if these first few episodes are so unbearable for them, I don't think they're going to like it even if it does improve later on. Those multiple people could be fans of the show and you know how most fans talk about their anime. Some people just don't know how to control their expectations and that's why we have all of these disappointing hyped anime each year. |
| I'm ok with the MC as long as he milds out later. He's on the borderline of being annoying, but not quite there yet. |
| The anime continue to be great. Best anime in this season if not whole year |
| "Mika is a vampire now!?!?! Wow, how shocking!" - no one. Still a good episode though. |
| wow holy shit Mike is alive and he's a vampire!! |
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| What, Mika is became a vampire ? I thinking he was dead. A good episode with a nice action part and a little touch of drama. |
SakaitsuApr 20, 2015 3:35 AM
TreF said: So, are all these demons and monsters going to be explained, or are they just hamfisted into the world for the "cool" factor? I wonder when's this going to become better as some people say, because so far it's just stacking cliches on top of cliches. The MC being stronger than anyone anticipated, "training," demon contracts, the childhood friend being alive and "changed." Also, "past those walls are ruins and wastelands crawling with monsters?" Anyone still thinking this show's direction isn't heavily influenced by AoT is just delusional at this point. They will be explained later, but don't expect it anytime soon since the author is famous for his long-running LN (Densetsu) that contains lots of world-building. I'd say that it gets better in the 2nd cour but if these first 3 episodes was not enjoyable enough for you, I don't think you'll like it even if it does improve later on. People are so fixated on the "city surrounded by wall" aspect of the show just because OnS and SnK are made by the same studio. It's not like SnK was the first to come up with the idea anyway when it's the most popular among other works. The author of SnK himself said that his work was heavily influenced by most of the older manga. |
EasyGo-erApr 20, 2015 5:32 AM
| Well Yu showed despite having a thirst for revenge he's no demon's puppet. Shinoa showed up at all which is good enough for me concerning her. :D She was pretty badass too though. Oh and that vampire and Mika are still around but absolutely no shock there considering the OP. Guess we'll probably find out how next week then... |
FlamepriesT said:  She's already cute as is. Then she says something lewd like that... seriously, if I were the protagonist I would've done her right then and there. I would make a football team with her, if you catch my drift. |
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AlexTheRiot said: gedata said: You shouldn't, you should let that character's path play out and then make an assessment based on the whole picture. Though, there are certainly anime that don't bother to try and set their characters up for development, so I do think this deserves slight praise in that sense. Would you rather have a Gary Stu or Godsuya, or an arrogant brat that is very clearly being exposed to the path to growth?Setting up character isn't praise in my opinion. Why should I be nice to something just for having a beginning? The day I'm forced to choose between, Kirito, Tatsuya and this dude (who is the embodiment of all the reasons people dislike Eren Jeager) is the day I quit this medium. |
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| Not a bad episode. Yui managed to conquer his emotions, he'll get a cursed weapon next time, and hopefully we'll move away from the high-school setting once he becomes a full member of the JIDA. As I can see from the comments on the previous pages, I'm in the minority of people who can't really stand Shinoa. Seems like an annoying girl who follows Yui for the sole purpose of nagging and mocking him. It's kinda funny that I also dislike Hatoko from Inou Battle, a character that was also voiced by Shinoa's VA. Even without the opening, Mika being alive was hardly surprising, though I didn't expect that noble vampire to be alive as well. Can't wait until he and Yui meet on the battlefield. 3.5/5 |
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| Lots of plus points here: *OP and ED *Shinoa *Shinoa's scythe (I always find scythes cool) *Shinoa *Demons *Art *Shinoa again. Cause damn. XD Oh and I just found out that Mika's name is Mikaela. |
I loved it in the manga and even though its different from what I remembered I still love what she says. I came for the action and I got it. Neat episode. |
EasyGo-er said: TreF said: So, are all these demons and monsters going to be explained, or are they just hamfisted into the world for the "cool" factor? I wonder when's this going to become better as some people say, because so far it's just stacking cliches on top of cliches. The MC being stronger than anyone anticipated, "training," demon contracts, the childhood friend being alive and "changed." Also, "past those walls are ruins and wastelands crawling with monsters?" Anyone still thinking this show's direction isn't heavily influenced by AoT is just delusional at this point. They will be explained later, but don't expect it anytime soon since the author is famous for his long-running LN (Densetsu) that contains lots of world-building. I'd say that it gets better in the 2nd cour but if these first 3 episodes was not enjoyable enough for you, I don't think you'll like it even if it does improve later on. People are so fixated on the "city surrounded by wall" aspect of the show just because OnS and SnK are made by the same studio. It's not like SnK was the first to come up with the idea anyway when it's the most popular among other works. The author of SnK himself said that his work was heavily influenced by most of the older manga. Yeah last time I checked city behind a wall hasn't been original for a few 1000 years. |
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| Now, I've just watched all 3 episodes. I like it so far. I don't think that the MC is too egregiously reckless (ala Eren) and, of course, I love Shinoa. With the two male MCs, it looks to be a type of Code Geass type of rivalry/face-off approaching (maybe Berserk but Griffith is pretty solidly evil). I'm looking forward to more. |
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TreF said: EasyGo-er said: People are so fixated on the "city surrounded by wall" aspect of the show just because OnS and SnK are made by the same studio. It's not like SnK was the first to come up with the idea anyway when it's the most popular among other works. The author of SnK himself said that his work was heavily influenced by most of the older manga. The wall isn't the only similarity, though; 1) The MC's family is killed by monsters and he seeks revenge. 2) The monsters origin is unknown, they feed off humans, and are vastly stronger physically (needing special equipment to be killed). 3) Organized militia force that deals with the monsters. 4) Certain characters turning into monsters. There's already lots of manga with these kinds of premise though, Ao no Exorcist is one on top of my mind right now and it came out earlier than AoT. |
gedata said: Exactly, except Eren's set up was 100% in the direction of revenge thirst/angst and you never really see a clear change in the anime. Yuu has the set up for development in place and this episode already showed his potential in going beyond that revenge thirst, so I really don't understand how we can still pigeonhole him as another Eren. The day I'm forced to choose between, Kirito, Tatsuya and this dude (who is the embodiment of all the reasons people dislike Eren Jeager) is the day I quit this medium. TreF said: EasyGo-er said: People are so fixated on the "city surrounded by wall" aspect of the show just because OnS and SnK are made by the same studio. It's not like SnK was the first to come up with the idea anyway when it's the most popular among other works. The author of SnK himself said that his work was heavily influenced by most of the older manga. The wall isn't the only similarity, though; 1) The MC's family is killed by monsters and he seeks revenge. 2) The monsters origin is unknown, they feed off humans, and are vastly stronger physically (needing special equipment to be killed). 3) Organized militia force that deals with the monsters. 4) Certain characters turning into monsters. Do you know how many different stories you described with those concepts? I really don't see your point here, the show isn't original and the manga is nothing like SnK beyond those vague similarities that mean absolutely nothing. |
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| This series really is taking quite a while to get the plot moving, isn't it? Especially since there's only 12 episodes in the first season. It'll just be getting good and then end. I'm wondering how long Yuuichirou will keep up his arrogant and selfish demeanor. Maybe something horrible will have to occur to break him. |
| Hmm, I like how this series is progressing. Yuuichirou can defeat a demon so soon. I am glad they didn't drag this more than this. I hope he can posess a demon in the next ep. I also hope he don't get a axe as weapon. That doesn't fit him at all. A sword is much better for him. Anyways, I bet we all knew that Mika-chan were a demon. I mean come on if he were still alive and not with Yuuichirou, that would be the only possibility. Overall it were a nice ep. |
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ElKiddoLoco said: AntonKutovoi said: I really like her way of thinking +10 hhaha, lol. LMAO when I saw that scene. :P |
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| I was expecting something better after the first episode but the series is still enjoyable. |
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| please people..... please, some are like "omg that twist, mika is alive".......... what? twist? a twist is something that's unexpected that changes the plot. not this.... and of course Yu, just walk in an own that demon, Mr. Gary-Sue prophecy child. |
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AlexTheRiot said: gedata said: Exactly, except Eren's set up was 100% in the direction of revenge thirst/angst and you never really see a clear change in the anime. Yuu has the set up for development in place and this episode already showed his potential in going beyond that revenge thirst, so I really don't understand how we can still pigeonhole him as another Eren. The day I'm forced to choose between, Kirito, Tatsuya and this dude (who is the embodiment of all the reasons people dislike Eren Jeager) is the day I quit this medium. TreF said: The wall isn't the only similarity, though; 1) The MC's family is killed by monsters and he seeks revenge. 2) The monsters origin is unknown, they feed off humans, and are vastly stronger physically (needing special equipment to be killed). 3) Organized militia force that deals with the monsters. 4) Certain characters turning into monsters. Do you know how many different stories you described with those concepts? I really don't see your point here, the show isn't original and the manga is nothing like SnK beyond those vague similarities that mean absolutely nothing. How about a trauma event followed by a couple training episodes for our revenge blind MC (who did everything this episode for power for his revenge, him realizing Mika wouldn't say those things doesn't change his feelings) with the wimpy sidekick and a strong female companion. The story structure is painfully similar so far. And that flashback for Yu to control his demon like Eren to control his use of a titan. And of course that feat of fending off the demon without the contract spell is unique. And sure, that type of stuff is many other series, that just farther proves the mediocrity of both shows as it is. |
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BlurredVision18 said: How about a trauma event followed by a couple training episodes for our revenge blind MC (who did everything this episode for power for his revenge, him realizing Mika wouldn't say those things doesn't change his feelings) with the wimpy sidekick and a strong female companion. The story structure is painfully similar so far. And that flashback for Yu to control his demon like Eren to control his use of a titan. And of course that feat of fending off the demon without the contract spell is unique. And sure, that type of stuff is many other series, that just farther proves the mediocrity of both shows as it is. How much are you willing to bet that people will continue to think the 2 shows are similar after the first cour aka 12 episodes? Do they bare similarities? Yes. Are they alike in general? God knows it's the first 3 episodes out of 24. And honestly, I don't believe "mediocre" is the word to describe AOT cause the show itself portrays a much more realistic/tragic reaction from "humanity" than most series of that type, it's sad to see lots of people missing that point of the series. But eh, as for OnS, if the show's too "mediocre" for you so far and there's nothing else you see in it besides the flaws (really, that's all you've been talking about) then feel free to walk out the door. |
| "Basically, the purpose of this school is to conduct a large-scale human experiment. Did you really think a peaceful school existed in a messed-up world like this?" I like the dark turn this just took, omg Yuu is ridiculously reckless though. I swear I honestly thought he was going to be consumed by the demon, then mildly surprised that he actually was able to fight it off. |
VysarineApr 20, 2015 10:27 PM
BlurredVision18 said: The same things that everybody else has been pointing out. You're not bringing anything new to the table, and like we've all been saying it's been three episodes. Once(if) you experience much more you're going to realize these characters are miles away from each other. How about a trauma event followed by a couple training episodes for our revenge blind MC (who did everything this episode for power for his revenge, him realizing Mika wouldn't say those things doesn't change his feelings) with the wimpy sidekick and a strong female companion. And if you can't acknowledge that Yuu clearly showed he isn't blinded by his revenge this episode, then I see no point trying to explain it to you. . And that flashback for Yu to control his demon like Eren to control his use of a titan. And of course that feat of fending off the demon without the contract spell is unique. And sure, that type of stuff is many other series, that just farther proves the mediocrity of both shows as it is. lol completely different concepts. Aside from the demon not being Yuu's, that whole scenario was to show something completely different than Eren's dream. There's a hundred other scenario's that you could say vaguely resemble these, it's just a storytelling device. I still don't understand the point of hamfisting these comparisons into the discussion anyway, and you seem to have done so for a different argument for some reason. Is it to claim that this is an SnK wannabe 3 episodes in? Or in your case, just that the show is just mediocre because it feels similar to Snk? Either way, we won't get anywhere if you don't see the series as its own work. And if you say that as its own work it stands as mediocre so far, then I agree. I thought the same thing reading the manga at first, but I didn't wig out about it, I read it with an open mind, criticized it for what it was and waited for it to get better. SnK has absolutely nothing to do with it. |
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BlurredVision18 said: AlexTheRiot said: Exactly, except Eren's set up was 100% in the direction of revenge thirst/angst and you never really see a clear change in the anime. Yuu has the set up for development in place and this episode already showed his potential in going beyond that revenge thirst, so I really don't understand how we can still pigeonhole him as another Eren. Do you know how many different stories you described with those concepts? I really don't see your point here, the show isn't original and the manga is nothing like SnK beyond those vague similarities that mean absolutely nothing. How about a trauma event followed by a couple training episodes for our revenge blind MC (who did everything this episode for power for his revenge, him realizing Mika wouldn't say those things doesn't change his feelings) with the wimpy sidekick and a strong female companion. The story structure is painfully similar so far. And that flashback for Yu to control his demon like Eren to control his use of a titan. And of course that feat of fending off the demon without the contract spell is unique. And sure, that type of stuff is many other series, that just farther proves the mediocrity of both shows as it is. It's kinda ironic that you're saying that having similarities is proof that something is mediocre without further argument while liking Shana which got an interesting setting wasted with cliche and overused tropes. There's so many reason to hate a show and you took the most stupid one, the one position you cannot defend objectively. I don't know if I should congratulate you or feel sad about it... where is Steve Harvey when you need him? BlurredVision18 said: some are like "omg that twist, mika is alive".......... what? twist? a twist is something that's unexpected that changes the plot. not this.... This isn't especially aimed at you but I'll still comment on it anyway. The thing is that you cannot call that a twist since it wasn't meant to be one to begin with. The story haven't even left the introduction stage and the fact that Mika is alive have been openly shown to the viewers. A twist is an unexpected and radical change to a story to surprise the viewers and keep them interested but for a story to change in a radical way it must first have a well established base. Mika being a vampire is part of this established base: The pieces have been set and the story start from here. It's not something that was meant to surprise anyone. There will be twists later but this wasn't one. It's kind of stupid to blame the work for having a bad twist simply because random people have been calling what isn't a twist, a twist. BlurredVision18 said: and of course Yu, just walk in an own that demon, Mr. Gary-Sue prophecy child. Yu walking and owning that demon is nothing special, most people that receive anti-demon training (and there are more than the story make you think at first) could have waltzed in and solved the case in a less stupid fashion than Yuu. This was a pretty weak demon. The thing that surprised Shinoa is that Yuu is the opposite of what they thought him to be. It's not like he's gifted or anything special... If I had to say an example it'd be something like this: it's like throwing someone that said he can't swim in a river while expecting him to sink but instead you're surprised that he can swim. Also about the 'prophecy' thing I can answer that but it'll be in spoiler tag since it's a pretty heavy spoiler. |
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Shangetsu said: The thing is that you cannot call that a twist since it wasn't meant to be one to begin with. The story haven't even left the introduction stage and the fact that Mika is alive have been openly shown to the viewers. A twist is an unexpected and radical change to a story to surprise the viewers and keep them interested but for a story to change in a radical way it must first have a well established base. Mika being a vampire is part of this established base: The pieces have been set and the story start from here. It's not something that was meant to surprise anyone. There will be twists later but this wasn't one. It's kind of stupid to blame the work for having a bad twist simply because random people have been calling what isn't a twist, a twist. Glad you touched on that. Because of the way the end of the episode was directed, it felt like it was being presented as a twist. For some people less perceptive than others, it probably succeded. But like you said, it wasn't meant as a twist. It was meant simply for hype. Establishing a key plot point. It would be a poorly planned twist if they tried to surprise us with Mika later on, but they got it out of the way early because every one already knew. And they couldn't just never reveal him out of fear of being predictable lol. |
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Antillar said: Decent episode. Only thing that I didn't like was the scythe fire - the way it was drawn was a bit weird. I liked it specifically because it was drawn differently. It's nice to see shows try things. |
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hi-d-us said: personally since the start i've always compared it more to ao no exorcist than AoT, but guess either many watchers started watching anime only very recently (facebook AoT fans) or they should have a very poor memory if they remember and compare only the most recent show :/ (oh, and AnE isn't even that old, it aired only in 2011, there are definitely other older shows with similar tropes)BlurredVision18 said: How about a trauma event followed by a couple training episodes for our revenge blind MC (who did everything this episode for power for his revenge, him realizing Mika wouldn't say those things doesn't change his feelings) with the wimpy sidekick and a strong female companion. The story structure is painfully similar so far. And that flashback for Yu to control his demon like Eren to control his use of a titan. And of course that feat of fending off the demon without the contract spell is unique. And sure, that type of stuff is many other series, that just farther proves the mediocrity of both shows as it is. How much are you willing to bet that people will continue to think the 2 shows are similar after the first cour aka 12 episodes? Do they bare similarities? Yes. Are they alike in general? God knows it's the first 3 episodes out of 24. And honestly but all this comparing is stupid, like said before it would be better to just look at the show for what it is instead of trying to see an other show into it so, about mika, what got speculated so far? -he and yuu will become enemies -the reason for him being sided with vampires: a) he decided to hate humans and love vampires b) he got brainwashed c) he is controlled since this is such a predictable show, there should be as many speculations of what 'obviously' it is going to become, no? |
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| A bit slow episode, no wonder Hyakuya could conquer that invading demon. Shinoa still cracks me up with her sarcastic tones. Such a serious wild face by kyuuketsuki Mikaela grown-up has appeared! |
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| Average episode. I hope they just get done with the school setting already. |
| I wasn't expecting Mika this soon. I didn't knew that Shinoa was so open about sex. |
You know, I think I'm starting to get the main gist of our main character: Good to know we won't spend too much time on the daily school lives. It seems like Yuu will be able to join the Demon Squad sooner than expected. I liked the animation for the cursed weapons, it looked particularly great during Shinoa's fight with Yuu. Kinda unexpected that Yuu managed to defeat the inner demon so easily. |
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| Best episode so far, even if I think this story is so cliche it's not even funny. Halicone said: Kinda unexpected that Yuu managed to defeat the inner demon so easily. Yeah, it was too easy, it's annoying when a main character doesn't go through a real struggle, through trial and error but magically gets everything handed to him by the power of over-powered MC cliche. |
HotaruKara said: defeating the demon was nothing about power, it was about character, which most are just misunderstanding, thinking it's only about spite and hate for vampires (oor, maybe they are just not judging at all his character and just repeating what others said)Halicone said: Kinda unexpected that Yuu managed to defeat the inner demon so easily. Yeah, it was too easy, it's annoying when a main character doesn't go through a real struggle, through trial and error but magically gets everything handed to him by the power of over-powered MC cliche. oh and this revenge thing is getting overused, yuu hated vampires even before the noble killed his second family |
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Zeando said: HotaruKara said: defeating the demon was nothing about power, it was about character, which most are just misunderstanding, thinking it's only about spite and hate for vampires (oor, maybe they are just not judging at all his character and just repeating what others said)Yeah, it was too easy, it's annoying when a main character doesn't go through a real struggle, through trial and error but magically gets everything handed to him by the power of over-powered MC cliche. oh and this revenge thing is getting overused, yuu hated vampires even before the noble killed his second family How was that unexpected? I expected it as much as that he would enter the room after he got told not to. |
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| I kinda starting to like the animation. Oh Wit Studio & FUNimation, that's why the animation is like SnK, but SnK's animation is much better. I think Yu should show more character development, not already so overpowered. Well, this is a 2 cour so maybe we'll see his development after and for the others as well. |
| I love how the main character listens to nobody except himself. "Let's wait for the professionals to come and handle things" "I WANT THAT AX!!!!!!" Because, you know, he totally doesn't need any training or teammates or anything because he's a prodigy. Like, he's a hero (not a cocky entitled teenager)! He saved the entire student body from the vampire (tackled and distracted it from the other students)! You know, he didn't even kill the vampire and now he has people giving him love letters! He's super-popular guy for being so hot-headed! Look how convenient it is! He thinks the world is unfair to him yet everything works out for him! His rash actions lead to positive outcomes! |
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Zeando said: ^so what do you expect to happen next? You failed to get my point. I can't see into the future and predict plot details. However, there is a difference when a plot point comes up and you can predict how it ends up. Like when they stood in front of the shrine door. You could be 99,9% sure that Yu would step in no matter what the other characters would have to say. Makuro said: I kinda starting to like the animation. Oh Wit Studio & FUNimation, that's why the animation is like SnK, but SnK's animation is much better. I think Yu should show more character development, not already so overpowered. Well, this is a 2 cour so maybe we'll see his development after and for the others as well. To be honest, Wit Studio animation often strike me as low budget ones. The art is often lazy and there is not a lot happening in the backround. |
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Miragee said: it seems we both missed each other point thenZeando said: ^so what do you expect to happen next? You failed to get my point. I can't see into the future and predict plot details. However, there is a difference when a plot point comes up and you can predict how it ends up. Like when they stood in front of the shrine door. You could be 99,9% sure that Yu would step in no matter what the other characters would have to say. my point was, why not talking about the story and/or future developments, speculating basically? (no one can predict anything, but anyone can make assumptions and speculations) instead of pointing out how obvious things are? sure anyone can point out obvious things if they want, but once you've pointed out everything, what is left to talk about? (assuming mal is a place to discuss shows, and not just to make sterile statements) i really can't speculate now, since i was following the manga before this anime got announced, but all the anime-only could instead tl;dr speculating is a win-win situation, cause you can only get it right and feel good for having predicted it or get it wrong and getting surprised saying "i predicted what was going to happen in the next 20 seconds" is easy mode speculation, it isn't enjoyable cause it's too easy, if you want to enjoy speculation you've to step up your level, and not just aiming for easy wins Miragee said: it should have been predictable for almost everyone given the character yuu is, if it hadn't that would have been out of characterHowever, there is a difference when a plot point comes up and you can predict how it ends up. Like when they stood in front of the shrine door. You could be 99,9% sure that Yu would step in no matter what the other characters would have to say. he's just in a rush to get things done, since he's already a trained soldier and for unknown or dumb reasons (from his point of view) he's denied to join the action he wants |
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