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| The manga did have problems, but it was 20 years ago, and the mangaka isn't really that great himself either, it's the premise and the themes that are rarely seen at the time captured everyone's attention. One of the reasons it's a half-ass adaptation is that the production team doesn't factor that in, doing just a straight adaptation is not adequate enough to meet modern standards, not to mention they made some of the changes that remove some of the charm the series has, but it's just the artist speaking, it's a business after all, the live-action movie has the same problems, but it's modern Japanese cinema, there's no expectations to speak of. Remember the old days when the industry still made good manga adaptations wholeheartedly not just a shameless cash crab even though some of the source materials were average in their own right? Like Gunslinger Girl (the 1st season exclusively), and Koi Kaze? Plantees (great source material and the adaptation is debatable but still a good one)? 2003-2004 is some of the best year for manga adaptations.  Go Pollution! |
raveninthemuddleMar 18, 2015 7:13 PM
| That was an intense fight! I'm glad that Migi is back, although I'm not surprised. He's so cute. c: Shinichi was lucky to stab a weapon with toxin into Gotou's weak spot. I thought Shinichi will spare Gotou, but he changed his mind at the last second. Looking forward to finale next week. |
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Gravaged said: This episode compounds a problem that has been consistent throughout the show. Whenever a character in this anime poses the question, "What makes the actions of parasites any different from those of humans?", thus likening the parasites' predation on humans to the industrial slaughter of animals, the audience is expected to accept that these practices are equivalent (not in magnitude, but in principle). I think that's a reasonable deduction. However, the author/director also expects that we--you and me, as human beings--not be disturbed by the fact that members of our own species are being preyed upon simply because predator-prey behavior is natural. Such rhetoric isn't going to fly with me, and for two reasons: One, it's casuistry. Two, we are social beings. I directly benefit from and am dependent upon the collective prosperity of my fellow humans. Of course I am going to eradicate the presence of a natural predator, because it poses an immediate threat to my survival and to my prosperity. I would expect the same of everyone posting in this forum. For Shinichi to have any qualms about killing Gotou is completely, entirely, and wholly nonsensical. Depending upon the outcome of the final episode, my initial rating for this show may have just been knocked down a point or two. My sentiments exactly. I was going to articulate my frustrations with the generic battle-shounen, suicidal stupidity, and discursive/absurd touchy-feely monologues, but I don't see the point. It all felt too hamfisted for me to take seriously, even Migi's return and Shinichi's lugubrious reaction. Hopefully the finish is strong... |
DouluoMar 18, 2015 7:51 PM
| Wait, did Shinichi just go on about how it wasn't his place to decide Gotou's fate and then turn around and kill him anyway? |
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wheresthehandle said: Wait, did Shinichi just go on about how it wasn't his place to decide Gotou's fate and then turn around and kill him anyway? Yes, because Migi told him that it is stupid to think about what is the best for earth overall. Sadly, but this episode disappointed me. Beside being glad that Migi is back I found the end part -week Gutu and all the humanity talk- not good. You can't think that maybe he should not be killed because he is striving to live and humans have been killing the earth. He is a killing machine, without any feeling and have killed hundreds of innocents. Death is a fair punishment. I am glad he decided to kill him by the end or that would've really pissed me. Last episode, hope they reveal how did the parasites exist from the first time. And I hope Shenchi tells his father about Migi and EVERYTHING else. I hope the last episode will turn well, because I don't want to reduce my rating from 10 to who knows what for an annoying ending to a great show. Gravaged said: This episode compounds a problem that has been consistent throughout the show. Whenever a character in this anime poses the question, "What makes the actions of parasites any different from those of humans?", thus likening the parasites' predation on humans to the industrial slaughter of animals, the audience is expected to accept that these practices are equivalent (not in magnitude, but in principle). I think that's a reasonable deduction. However, the author/director also expects that we--you and me, as human beings--not be disturbed by the fact that members of our own species are being preyed upon simply because predator-prey behavior is natural. Such rhetoric isn't going to fly with me, and for two reasons: One, it's casuistry. Two, we are social beings. I directly benefit from and am dependent upon the collective prosperity of my fellow humans. Of course I am going to eradicate the presence of a natural predator, because it poses an immediate threat to my survival and to my prosperity. I would expect the same of everyone posting in this forum. For Shinichi to have any qualms about killing Gotou is completely, entirely, and wholly nonsensical. Depending upon the outcome of the final episode, my initial rating for this show may have just been knocked down a point or two. Totally agreeing with you. Also I believe certain people deserve to die because they didn't value other's life. Underestimating the value of other's life (i.e. killing innocents) is the only sin that should be punished with death, as they are technically not any different than the parasites. |
HakayaMar 18, 2015 7:25 PM
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wheresthehandle said: Wait, did Shinichi just go on about how it wasn't his place to decide Gotou's fate and then turn around and kill him anyway? Yes, as I recall. Both MCs changed their minds after the rhapsodic philosophical rambling - ughh. Funny how there was no moral ambivalence when Gatou was committing wholesale slaughter on the villagers >_> I'm one who really goes for this kind of shit too, but the execution was just...off. With the big boss out of the way though, I have a feeling the last ep returns to its roots *fingers crossed* |
DouluoMar 18, 2015 7:28 PM
| I still think on the basis of screen time, Reiko has been the best character in this series. |
DouluoMar 18, 2015 7:50 PM
| Fuck yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh MIGI IS BACK!! THE TRUE HERO IS BACK ^^ I LOVE YOU MIGI ;) |
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| Is this how the manga goes? Because this was such a shitty development/way to handle stuff, it astounishes me o.o Oh well, it's Madhouse so I guess they are following the source material to the letter. Meh episode, totaly lost any interest to see the end. |
LOAD said: Had to watch the last half twice to get ahold of what actually happened. I guess I'm in the minority when I say that the end to this parasite vs human conflict was well done. Flawfinder said: The theme that the world is beautiful and humans pollute the earth and whether they deserve to be weeded out I strongly believe that interpretation of the theme or 'underlying' message of anything is up to any viewer Yes, and I didn't quite get the message you saw at first. It's been clarified to me by some colleagues of mine since. LOAD said: I interpreted it as 0 actual environmental preaching and that this series is really about survival as the most prominent aspect of human life. That's a better message than the environmental one, but it's still nothing all that new at the end of the day. Granted, the show does do something different with that theme than, say, Nausicaa, so I guess in retrospect this episode was pretty decent. Unfortunately, I don't think a lot of the previous episodes (particularly the majority of the middle section) really play into that "survival" theme very well. It's kind like how despite Death Note's ultimate goal is that you're not supposed to support Light, the show ultimately had too much faffing about for the ending to save it. |
FlawfinderMar 18, 2015 8:49 PM
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TheUnbiasedOne91 said: It wasn't really an asspull. We knew he was alive in the last ep.lol that asspull when Migi came back |
| This is the reason why I was worried that Madhouse was going to perfectly adapt this. The ending. The moral of this great and dramatic story is.. Don't pollute Earth. That's a really shitty moral, for this type of story at least. You could've gone multiple directions here, but no, you just go and turn this into Captain Planet. |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| The ending fight was simply fairly disappointing. You have creatures that can morph into almost anything and the fights have been more or less the same the entire series. I loved the series at the start but its been fading away for a while now. Hope we at least get a satisfying last episode. I agree with the above poster, sometimes 100% faithful adaptions are not always the best. |
| Welcome back Migi!! We missed ya buddy~! |
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| holy shit talk about anti hype. Gotou not only looked like Youpi from HXH he also died similar as well and freakin Migi got to come back ;a; |
| I quite enjoyed this episode, in particular Shinichi's inner struggles. I initially thought that the whole "never give up thing" was over the top, but I really liked how Shinichi vacillated between perseverance and submission even with the old woman's advice fresh in his mind. That is a very human reaction and I really empathized with the feeling. Similarly I found Shinichi's struggle over whether or not to kill Gotou very interesting. This idea that Shinichi has gained an extra respect for the value of life because of all of the death around him seems very natural. So it was interesting to see this new found appreciation for life, of all kinds, played out. He had no good option and in the end made the right call. Had I been in the same circumstance I think I would have waited until the last second before Gotou regenerated before I killed him. That way you have at least a 50 percent chance that Gotou wouldn't need to be killed. You could save yourself some inner struggles if it turned out you didn't need to kill him after. I'm looking forward to next week, there are a lot of different ways to wrap things up. I am curious how they will choose to end it. |
| That was an intense fight. Izumi really put up a good struggle for being a one armed human. When Migi gave him that lighter I was actually expecting him to lure Gotou onto the trash and burn him alive...since the Old Lady said that the trash had caught fire and almost burned the mountain down once. It seemed like relatively useless shit to say unless Shinichi was going to make use of it...but I was wrong. The toxic spike was kind of clever though. Everyone said it was rushed and meh...but like wtf did you want? Izumi is a human who can only take like 2 regular hits from Gotou before death, and Gotou is a parasite monster who can run faster than a car if he wanted to. That fight really couldn't be some prolonged Frieza fight, I'm sorry. That inner monologue in Shinichi's head pissed me off. I was like WTF are you doing dumbass!? You sound just like Hirokawa! Then it turns out he was imagining it...thank god. Barion-Zara said: I wonder what the last ep will be about?? Are all Parasites extinct now? I was wondering that too. The story is pretty much over. But as someone else mentioned and it caught my eye...the only unresolved plot piece left is the escaped Uragami. |
| This episode is summarized in ramblings of the protagonist, Shinichi thought about life, death, the planet, the forms of life, the good and the bad, and finally almost made a bad choice, I would be very angry if he did not kill the parasite Well, just missing another episode, I'm very anxious and I hope that Shinichi has no more absurd thoughts .. |
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| Knew something similar was going to happen. Migi just pops in, reattaches to shinichis arm and is like "yo" Shinichi wounds Gouto ~> freak accident/coincidence that the stick was "poisoned" him ~> causing Migi to be freed because of Goutos internal conflict ~> Migi kills Gouto-the-OP-velociraptor in one strike BUT WAIT!! Gouto is strong enough to try to revive himself by pulling together the exploded cells ~> Migi about to destroy Goutos remnants ~> Migi decides "meh. nevermind. from a human perspective (as if ive given a fuck in the past) this would be murder. you take care of it" ~> Shinichi "shit whatever, i got this bro." about to destroy rest of Gouto. ~> Shinichi in deep thought ~> Shinichi "aw fuck forget it, i changed my mind too. he can have his '50/50' chance" ~> walks away in woods ~> Shinichi "ah hell this motherfucking velociraptor gotta die" ~> finishes Gouto with rusty machete. God that was painful, but glad it finally happened. Now what to do last episode? finally tell Murano wth's going on? |
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Gymkata said: I still think on the basis of screen time, Reiko has been the best character in this series. I can never reiterate enough how much I miss her existence of experimentation and learning about humanity. ;~; |
| きみ は だれ だい？ ぼく は ラムボ！ ぼく は だれ だい？ きみ は ラムボ！ ラムボ なんでし！ |
| I think Gotou might be one of the only major antagonists out there literally defeated with a stick |
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Protaku94 said: I think Gotou might be one of the only major antagonists out there literally defeated with a stick I thought it a metal pipe? |
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Flawfinder said: Well, maybe that's because the series isn't new, on the contrary. The story was written in the late 80s/early 90s and paved the way for quite a handful of works in the manga/anime industry.That's a better message than the environmental one, but it's still nothing all that new at the end of the day. |
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| Although I didn't dislike it, I just felt very little excitement or suspense throughout this final battle. I mean it was enjoyable, but just nowhere near as gripping as the battles in the first half of the series. The flashbacks to that old woman made me cringe, random hag is more of an inspiration to him than his dead mother, Kana, or Murano. Migi's return goes without saying, it was fairly expected that he would come back somehow. His decisions were very pragmatic this episode although the friendship speech last episode kind of ruined his logical return to Shinichi. I'm at least glad that they put the idea of Migi contemplating staying in Gotou into the air. I could sort of understand Shinichi's struggle to spare or kill Gotou, but I wasn't sold on it considering the extreme situation. "Humans are the poison, parasites are the cure." Kiseijuu brings out some interesting themes about the value of life on a holistic level. I liked the point about how parasites were being hunted because they were harmful to humans, yet humans are the most harmful to Earth in its entirety. At times it does seem like these themes are randomly jammed in, however, and started to feel a bit preachy and irrelevant to what was going on. |
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| this was... underwhelming. all of the fight and migis return. and the whole moral talk was just stupid, especially since in the end shinichi killed gotou anyway. |
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| I miss Tamura Reiko |
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| So was that an asspull or what.. can someone clarify that whole migi situation because i would just like to know, 1 why was migi even with gutou in the first place why did gotou let him on and 2 how did the scattered cells in shinichi know to re attach migi when they cant even respon to izumi.. idk someone explain it to me because im very confused. |
| hmm okay.. but if migi's stay dead, it's gonna be better, for me tho dunno but I gonna reduce the score still good tho |
| Pretty expected for Migi to come back, but I don't mind that it was predictable. Awesome episode! Not sure how it will all be wrapped up in one episode, though. |
| OMG, Migi being alive is NOT an asspull. It's a twist. Learn the difference. Considering the 2 events are like ONE chapter apart, it's obvious that the twist was planned beforehand. It's also obvious that Gotou assimilated Migi when she was on the verge of death. He could completely control every parasyte he absorbed so why would he think that Migi be any different? She did not resist because her survival instincts compelled her to allow the assimilation and also because it was a way to get back to Shinichi. |
| lol that "rebellion parasitic cells" tho. |
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| I thought for sure that Gotou would die in a fire. |
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| Gotou looks pretty badass, but too bad Migi is back. Boom, explosion! What will happen now to Shinichi and Migi after all of this? |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| Mixed feeling about this episode, leaning more towards the negative. Fight was meh, very slow, basically nothing happened. it ended with a deus ex machina moment to with the re-bar just happening to have a kind of cyanide crated by illegal trash dumping and its burning. Really? they could have made it a fight Shinichi wins by hos own power as an enhanced sort of human but instead its about the toxins. Plus how Migi came back? More dues ex machina. I didn't think he was gone for goo but that as poorly handled. Then the ecosystem rant? the heck was that> I was worried the whole show had boiled down to a commentary on how humans are treating the planet! Which isnt inaccurate to that part of the episode but was entirely unnecessary, or at least too long. A then he kill shim anyway. What the heck? How are they going to wrap all this up? Tease another season maybe? |
| I say "I'm speechless" to tell you I want to say something though am not sure how... |
| Next week. Oh gosh, can't believe this show is over. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| Now that is the face of a Parasyte. Gotou is pretty ugly, yet it suites him quite well being a monster. When Migi came back to Shinichi's arm, I got pretty excited. I feel relieved a lot after seeing him again. Smart of Migi to stay inside Gotou just to rejuvenate a little. The toxins of that iron rod made Gotou unstable long enough for Migi to do a clean cut on the neck. Finally, he gets to go back home. Final episode next week! |
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| I havent read the manga so I am only speculating but hear is what I think. First why is evryone saying that Gotou is dead ? Shinichi might have only seperated his head from the other parasytes and let him live on in his own body. He might be Shinichis right hand now or he could be living in a different part of him. As for the ending...hmmm I dot know how it will satisfy the watchers, reagarding the other characters that were left out. But I hope its not just a ending for shinichi but for all of tham. Btw did anypne ever tought that in case Migi ,for exempel doesnt age, can be tranfered from one generation to another, so the author or other authors could make spinoffs with that idea in mind : ). |
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| This was too expected I guess my expectations were too high, which made me disappointed in this finale sigh.................... Well, i hope the last ep will make it give me a 9 |
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| Excellent episode. Great fight. Knew Migi would come back and all. But now my prediction that Murano would die and the Anime'd have a sad ending is gone. Let's see how it concludes. |
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