EratiK said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: And neither are Black Lagoon, or Space Bros, or Cromartie or Beck elitist. This list is idiotic.Anything old is elitist, didn't you know? Cause only pretentious people watch anime from before 2005. that's just a "recommendation".. urs might be more idiotic to some.. |
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EratiK said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: And neither did Black Lagoon, or Space Bros, or Cromartie or Beck, this list idiotic.Anything old is elitist, didn't you know? Cause only pretentious people watch anime from before 2005. Trust me, somewhere on MAL almost any anime, safe for maybe the top 100 most popular shows, has been called 'elitist' by some ignorant mongrels. As long as you don't exclusively watch ecchi or cute girls shows or mainstream battle shounen, you can bet your ass that some people will find anything you watch elitist garbage. It's just a list of quality anime, take it or leave it. |
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laraes said: Can anyone relate to this? D: Yes! I think it may have something to do with herd mentality. There are often times when a lot of people want to like something and collectively revere it even though it's not that great. This is one reason why I'm often skeptical of popular anime. I thought Bakemonogatari was fun but found Nisemonogatari and Monogatari Series: Second Season to be incredibly boring. Clannad and Ano Hana are two of the most forced shows I've seen, and all the scream crying in the latter didn't move me at all. Watching these titles a couple of years after their initial release likely separates us from all the hype and excitement. We're not "riding the herd", but seeing this shit (maybe) for what it is. But, obviously, there are a few exceptions. Not everything with a high rating is bad. |
aikaflipFeb 12, 2015 2:28 PM
| Main thing they have common is adult cast? |
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| NGE is 2deep4u OP |
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Rich_Homie said: I don't like onions most people seem to love onions and put it in everything. I just cannot finish any food with onions. My brethren <3 The monogatari series isn't worth it, not sure why its so hyped. I didn't enjoy NGE either and dropped it. Haruhi is mediocore. Idolm@ster is all you need though so you're doing ok friend |
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| Maybe you should lower your expectations next time. |
| You don't have to watch what other people are watching. If you don't like them, find your own tastes |
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| Bakemonogatari was great but I don't know about the rest (nise was shit) |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Perfectly normal, it is about taste after all. i dropped: NGE .... lets just say i was NOT amused with it. FT too, for obvious reasons. Clannad was also a no go 4 me. i just cant force myself to watch anime i dont like anymore .... that simple. |
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| I dropped angle beats and that is meant to be okay. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| i dropped u A LONG time ago and everyone was pleased about it :) black1blade said: I dropped angle beats and that is meant to be okay. |
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| Why do you hate me senpai, what have I done!!!! ;_; |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I would recommend monster over death note though (especially if people can deal with longer shows) |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| [/quote] JohnnyBme said: Rich_Homie said: Correction: Death Note. Correction #2: Evangelion Legends ofthe galactic heroes Welcome to the nhk the tatami galaxy fma: brotherhood No way. sao is a must watch, so you can start hating it. Boku No Pico so you can recommend it. |
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Zeta986 said: Steps how to find good anime. step 1 : Avoid the Hype step 2 : Avoid the recommendation step 3 : Never watch on-going shows step 4 : Watch Elitist Pandering anime in this list step 5 : You have been Enlighten and your Lifespan has been extended for 20 years. Full list please? It's pictures and I don't understand everything |
| You pleb, you can't tell those anime by looking at the pictures and reading the japanese!? |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: You pleb, you can't tell those anime by looking at the pictures and reading the japanese!? just get inside the fucking grail already !!! >:O |
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| I was kidding, I can't tell most of them either XD WAD1992 said: black1blade said: You pleb, you can't tell those anime by looking at the pictures and reading the japanese!? just get inside the fucking grail already !!! >:O Kikikikiki |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
JohnnyBme said: Going from left to right:Zeta986 said: Steps how to find good anime. step 1 : Avoid the Hype step 2 : Avoid the recommendation step 3 : Never watch on-going shows step 4 : Watch Elitist Pandering anime in this list step 5 : You have been Enlighten and your Lifespan has been extended for 20 years. Full list please? It's pictures and I don't understand everything Legend of the Galactic Heroes Mushishi Ping Pong the Animation Monster The Tatami Galaxy Space Brothers Mononoke Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex Rose of Versailles Beck Welcome to the NHK Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Berserk Planates Kaiji: Ultimate Survivor Detroit Metal City Black Lagoon Hajime no Ippo Gankustuou Kaiba Revolutionary Girl Utena Kuuchuu Buranko ? Haibane Renmei Hyouge Mono Ergo Proxy House of Five Leaves Texhnolyze Cromartie High School Aoi Bungaku Shirokuma Cafe Serial Experiments Lain Paranoia Agent Master Keaton City Hunter Nobunaga Concerto Only one I don't know is bottom left in pack 6. |
JohnnyBme said: Zeta986 said: Steps how to find good anime. step 1 : Avoid the Hype step 2 : Avoid the recommendation step 3 : Never watch on-going shows step 4 : Watch Elitist Pandering anime in this list step 5 : You have been Enlighten and your Lifespan has been extended for 20 years. Full list please? It's pictures and I don't understand everything LoGH Mushishi Ping Pong Monster The Tatami Galaxy Kyoudai Brothers Mononoke Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex Versailles no Bara Beck Welcome to the NHK Jojo first season Berserk Planetes Kaiji Detroit Metal City Black Lagoon Hajime no Ippo Gankutsuuo Kaiba Utena Kuuchu Buranko Terra e Grey Wings Hyouge Mono Ergo Proxy Saraya Goyou Texhnolyze Cromartie High School Aoi Bungaku Series Shirokuma cafè Lain Paranoia Agent Master Keaton City Hunter Nobunaga Concerto Feaor said: Edit: you ninja'd me by 17 seconds. Well played. |
Aria-da-CapoFeb 12, 2015 3:44 PM
| Oh sure, I mean I literally ONLY watched Attack on Titan because it was on Toonami, despite knowing the universal praise it received(a bit much imo.) Same with Sword Art Online, despite knowing the universal scorn it received(a bit much imo) and I have no interest whatsoever in series like Jojos or Hunter x Hunter. I think we all have shows like that. It's fine, you just watch what you wanna watch! |
Aria-da-Capo said: Kyoudai Brothers :> |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Aria-da-Capo said: Grey Wings Kyoudai Brothers :> |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Space Uchuu.Aria-da-Capo said: Kyoudai Brothers :> Good to see that, Terra e, and Gankutsuou in the starter deck. My faith in MAL has been restored since that Clannad feces fling earlier. |
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Zeta986 said: Steps how to find good anime. step 1 : Avoid the Hype step 2 : Avoid the recommendation step 3 : Never watch on-going shows step 4 : Watch Elitist Pandering anime in this list step 5 : You have been Enlighten and your Lifespan has been extended for 20 years. Aria should be on this though, should get like the whole pack for it or something. |
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| Don't watch something that people tell you to watch and ignore lists like those and recommendations. Expectations lessen enjoyment, find your own stuff to watch instead (even if it is popular), and make your own decisions. That's how you find the real "must see" titles. Sounds like your taste isn't very compatible with mine if you aren't interested FMA:B, Future Diary, Death Note or Elfen Lied, which I found quite addictive, so that's the best advice I can give. |
KruszerFeb 12, 2015 5:22 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| Just watch what seems to be interesting according to you. You don't have to watch any anime just because they are supposely the best |
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| I personally think there are no "Must Watch" shows, since (almost) no one has the exact same taste. |
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Milk_is_Special said: I sorta understand this mentality but by the same token I think there are some shows that are 'must watches' in the sense that they codify a lot of tropes that are common in certain genres as well as others with historical importance to the medium. For instance, if someone is interested in Battle Shounen then I'd say Dragonball is a 'must watch' because the manga pretty much laid down the foundation for all modern battle manga to follow.I personally think there are no "Must Watch" shows, since (almost) no one has the exact same taste. |
Feaor said: Milk_is_Special said: I sorta understand this mentality but by the same token I think there are some shows that are 'must watches' in the sense that they codify a lot of tropes that are common in certain genres as well as others with historical importance to the medium. For instance, if someone is interested in Battle Shounen then I'd say Dragonball is a 'must watch' because the manga pretty much laid down the foundation for all modern battle manga to follow.I personally think there are no "Must Watch" shows, since (almost) no one has the exact same taste. I think so, too. I understand what everybody is wanting to tell me is, that I should watch what I like and find my own Must-watch shows. I did that and I'll continue doing that, but I think there are just some shows you "have" to watch. You don't have to like them, but I would like to watch them to kind of broaden my horizon and to be able to talk to people about it without getting a weird look after telling them I haven't watched it so far Also, I recently noticed that I tend to "like shows more" than I maybe would, when everybody else is teaming up against it. For example, after I finished Soul Eater Not! I liked it, but also thought it was worse than Soul Eater. But when I saw its rating and how people were hating it, I started to like it more, in order to kind of "defeat" it. Today I think it's quite comparable to Soul Eater. |
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laraes said: I hated Elfen Lied *rates it 7/10* That elitist pandering list is surprisingly good. |
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icirate said: laraes said: I hated Elfen Lied *rates it 7/10* That elitist pandering list is surprisingly good. I've given good ratings to anime I hated, too. I'll give credit for good writing and execution even if I personally can't stand it. Nisemonogatari is a recent example. My personal rating would be a 3, but—objectively speaking—the writing and execution are at least a 6. |
laraes said: Besides the fact that One Piece is my all-time favorite anime, I simply am not motivated to watch other "big" ones? Like I saw AoT a good year after it was released and found it...ok or rather meh. I dropped Neon Genesis Evangelion after 3 episodes, FMA Brotherhood after 10, Gurren Lagann after the half, Mirai Nikki after 10, Death Note after 6, I hated Elfen Lied and Black Butler and didn't like Ano Hana that much. I just can't get myself to watch the Monogatari-series, Steins;Gate, Dragonball, Clannad or other "Must-Watch"-anime , I have seen approx. 3 out of 30 series from the Top Anime TV Series list. I have no clue why? I am a rather active watcher, so I don't get it? I am aware of the fact that there have to be reasons for so many people liking this shows, but most of the time I don't like them that much. Can anyone relate to this? D: gedata said: No, only the nostalgia crowd does . Elitists like myself and others that I know of have little to say about the show, good or bad.Zeta986 said: Steps how to find good anime. step 1 : Avoid the Hype step 2 : Avoid the recommendation step 3 : Never watch on-going shows step 4 : Watch Elitist Pandering anime in this list step 5 : You have been Enlighten and your Lifespan has been extended for 20 years. City Hunter never really struck me as something the elitist crowd would go for |
| wow me too. i dont even try to watch my plan to watch anime. i dont know why though. i thought i really like them when i added them to my PTW anime. i thought it was just me, hehe nice to know that im not alone. |
| shinsekai yori is a must watch....watch it op |
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on Feaor said: Milk_is_Special said: I sorta understand this mentality but by the same token I think there are some shows that are 'must watches' in the sense that they codify a lot of tropes that are common in certain genres as well as others with historical importance to the medium. For instance, if someone is interested in Battle Shounen then I'd say Dragonball is a 'must watch' because the manga pretty much laid down the foundation for all modern battle manga to follow.I personally think there are no "Must Watch" shows, since (almost) no one has the exact same taste. I think it's more that there are actually shows with wide appeal. There are shows that tend to "hit the mark" more often, not necessarily because they're good but because the bullseye is way bigger and easier to hit. They have lots of genres or appeal to multiple demographics. Thus more people end up rating these shows positively, even if they're not their favorites. |
KruszerFeb 13, 2015 9:03 PM
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Kruszer said: How's that different from 'entry anime'?Feaor said: I think it's more that there are actually shows with wide appeal. There are shows that tend to "hit the mark" more often, not necessarily because they're good but because the bullseye is way bigger and easier to hit. Thus more people end up rating these shows positively, even if they're not their favorites.I sorta understand this mentality but by the same token I think there are some shows that are 'must watches' in the sense that they codify a lot of tropes that are common in certain genres as well as others with historical importance to the medium. For instance, if someone is interested in Battle Shounen then I'd say Dragonball is a 'must watch' because the manga pretty much laid down the foundation for all modern battle manga to follow. |
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Sloth_ said: Kruszer said: How's that different from 'entry anime'?I think it's more that there are actually shows with wide appeal. There are shows that tend to "hit the mark" more often, not necessarily because they're good but because the bullseye is way bigger and easier to hit. Thus more people end up rating these shows positively, even if they're not their favorites. Why are we comparing them? I'm sure some of what I mentioned are, others however are not, if you look at something that appeals to most users like MAL's top listing there are titles in there that I would not call entry level. |
KruszerFeb 13, 2015 9:15 PM
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Kruszer said: Because it sounds like it'll serve what I said better than whatever you're trying to make out a 'must watch show' to be.Sloth_ said: Why are we comparing them?How's that different from 'entry anime'? |
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Sloth_ said: Kruszer said: Because it sounds like it'll serve what I said better than whatever you're trying to make out a 'must watch show' to be.Why are we comparing them? Well, as far as I know I wasn't commenting on any of your comments unless you are a dual of Milk is Special or Feaor. Thus I have no idea what you said about must see anime or entry level anime, nor was the comment I made intended to debate it personally. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97" |
| Maybe you're outgrowing generic anime. I can still do Fairy Tale, Pokemon and Sailor Moon, but I can't find myself wanting to try any of the other big ones these days. They tend to have a repetitive formula that I've seen over and over throughout the years and I'd rather watch something less known but more interesting. |
laraes said: Besides the fact that One Piece is my all-time favorite anime, I simply am not motivated to watch other "big" ones? Like I saw AoT a good year after it was released and found it...ok or rather meh. I dropped Neon Genesis Evangelion after 3 episodes, FMA Brotherhood after 10, Gurren Lagann after the half, Mirai Nikki after 10, Death Note after 6, I hated Elfen Lied and Black Butler and didn't like Ano Hana that much. I just can't get myself to watch the Monogatari-series, Steins;Gate, Dragonball, Clannad or other "Must-Watch"-anime , I have seen approx. 3 out of 30 series from the Top Anime TV Series list. I have no clue why? I am a rather active watcher, so I don't get it? I am aware of the fact that there have to be reasons for so many people liking this shows, but most of the time I don't like them that much. Can anyone relate to this? D: Don't be a sheep. |
Casval_onii-san said: laraes said: Besides the fact that One Piece is my all-time favorite anime, I simply am not motivated to watch other "big" ones? Like I saw AoT a good year after it was released and found it...ok or rather meh. I dropped Neon Genesis Evangelion after 3 episodes, FMA Brotherhood after 10, Gurren Lagann after the half, Mirai Nikki after 10, Death Note after 6, I hated Elfen Lied and Black Butler and didn't like Ano Hana that much. I just can't get myself to watch the Monogatari-series, Steins;Gate, Dragonball, Clannad or other "Must-Watch"-anime , I have seen approx. 3 out of 30 series from the Top Anime TV Series list. I have no clue why? I am a rather active watcher, so I don't get it? I am aware of the fact that there have to be reasons for so many people liking this shows, but most of the time I don't like them that much. Can anyone relate to this? D: Don't be a sheep. Far more people like long running shounen though. |
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laraes said: Feaor said: I sorta understand this mentality but by the same token I think there are some shows that are 'must watches' in the sense that they codify a lot of tropes that are common in certain genres as well as others with historical importance to the medium. For instance, if someone is interested in Battle Shounen then I'd say Dragonball is a 'must watch' because the manga pretty much laid down the foundation for all modern battle manga to follow. I think so, too. I understand what everybody is wanting to tell me is, that I should watch what I like and find my own Must-watch shows. I did that and I'll continue doing that, but I think there are just some shows you "have" to watch. You don't have to like them, but I would like to watch them to kind of broaden my horizon and to be able to talk to people about it without getting a weird look after telling them I haven't watched it so far Also, I recently noticed that I tend to "like shows more" than I maybe would, when everybody else is teaming up against it. For example, after I finished Soul Eater Not! I liked it, but also thought it was worse than Soul Eater. But when I saw its rating and how people were hating it, I started to like it more, in order to kind of "defeat" it. Today I think it's quite comparable to Soul Eater. It just takes time. Perhaps you have yet to experience something in real life that would make you appreciate a certain series as much as others do, or maybe a show will change your opinion on certain story elements and genres, allowing you to enjoy more stuff. Eventually you will understand the appeal of those "must watch" titles; if you simply don't get why something is popular and acclaimed while you dislike it, just drop the show and pick it up after some time. Of course no one likes everything that's popular, but you should eventually understand why it's popular and why it does not appeal to you specifically. Regarding the other half of your post, going against a popular opinion (in this case, liking something more if it's hated) makes people feel special and unique. Again, it just takes time, after spending more time on this site you won't be bothered nearly as much by scores and other people's opinions. |
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