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Oct 12, 2014 8:31 AM

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I have mixed feelings about this anime. Angelise still does not get it that there is no way back...
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Oct 12, 2014 8:32 AM

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here is the best things that would happen to this show: 90% people dropping it after episode 4, so their score wont count, and only people who are not feminists or dont hate sex scenes stay. Therefor, this show would get 8.0+ score
and there will be some idiots make threads why this anime sells so well
Oct 12, 2014 8:33 AM

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moonnya said:
here is the best things that would happen to this show: 90% people dropping it after episode 4, so their score wont count

you underestimate the power of morbid curiosity, your shitty prison sexploitation show won't be left alone that easily
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Oct 12, 2014 8:56 AM

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moonnya said:
here is the best things that would happen to this show: 90% people dropping it after episode 4, so their score wont count, and only people who are not feminists or dont hate sex scenes stay. Therefor, this show would get 8.0+ score
and there will be some idiots make threads why this anime sells so well


lol even if that 90% does drop, the remaining 8% will be people that stayed for the yuri and to watch the trainwreck so don't think everyone who sticks with it will turn a blind eye to bad writing and execution.
Oct 12, 2014 9:03 AM

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Well I will go agains the flow. I like the show. No not for the fanservice.
Oct 12, 2014 9:20 AM

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I am really hating Ange so far, she is worst of the bitches kind. I was hoping whole episode that she will get beat or tortured how much she annoys me. And that exposition whole episode with Coco was so over the top that i didnt even cared when she was killed off so that bish Ange gets reality check.
Only thing that is keeping me to watch this anime are those awesome transformers mecha. They are the coolest mecha i ever saw in any anime *.*
Oct 12, 2014 9:27 AM

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I find arsehole/bitch characters interesting. So I guess I like Ange. At least she isn't like every other crappy MC out there.

Apart from the yuri rape and skimpy outfits I like everything else about this show, although it's understandable why western anime fans do not like this.
Oct 12, 2014 9:41 AM

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oh come on it was obvious she was going to die
Oct 12, 2014 10:00 AM

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Yep and now she's dead Ange can wake up.
I enjoyed this episode (and not for the yuri) and I look forward to see more of this anime !
Oct 12, 2014 10:08 AM

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I enjoyed this ep more then the first. Wow I wasn't expecting a death already. Well I hope that finally snaps Ange into her situation right now.

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Oct 12, 2014 10:19 AM
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Good fanservice in this episode. I never expected to see those yuri scenes.

I felt bad for Coco.
Oct 12, 2014 10:33 AM

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well that girl dying was expected.
now, that rape tentative, was that black bars that i saw ? i thought that this was airing on atx
Oct 12, 2014 10:55 AM

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This anime is worthy successor of Mahouka glory.
No wonder, dragon with no head must be retarded.
Oct 12, 2014 11:07 AM
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It was interesting the character of the princess. Who know how this charater works they are always against the fact of who they are and then some kind of event makes them change, in this case the dead of the little fan at the end. Unfortunently we couldn't see her face to get impressed by the angelise's reaction.
Oct 12, 2014 11:12 AM

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This is just terribly ridiculous.
Fiercely dropped.
Oct 12, 2014 11:13 AM

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LOL this show is amazing. rated this episode 5/5 hahahaha

When Coco was gushing to Ange earlier in the episode I thought "she's cute and friendly so I bet she will DIE"

The episode previews are great, it shows they aren't taking things too seriously.
Oct 12, 2014 11:35 AM

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Eh, I knew she was going to die, the friendly support character always dies when it is meet too early. I bet het friend will blame Ange for Coco's death, maybe will turn into another hater.
Oct 12, 2014 12:18 PM

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Loved this episode, up until poor Coco died :'( I know Ange's going to get blamed for it too. Though it was kinda her fault for deciding to try and fly away the first chance she got. Of course the girl who worships her was going to try and come along too. Then the gate opens right on top of them and BAM! Death by dragon.

RIP Coco, we hardly knew ye.

Was kinda annoyed that they censored the yuri attempted rape scene. Apparently any actual occurances of nipple are being saved for the Blu-Ray. As extreme as the fanservice already is, I can't complain too much. The captain's becoming one of my favorite characters, with her insatiable sexual appetite and dynamite body, not to mention a harem of hot girls waiting on her hand and foot (and other places).

Poor Ange needs to get her head together though. She's not a pampered princess anymore, and the longer she tries to pretend she is the more she's going to get hurt. We know from the cold opening though that she eventually becomes quite the badass.

I love that the show's getting two cours ... wonder if Ange is going to try and change how Normas are treated and figure out a place for them in the otherwise utopian society.
Oct 12, 2014 12:18 PM

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Werewolf Women of the SS never got made, but this makes up for it, so refreshingly trashy, not trying to be more than what it is. Enjoyable.
Oct 12, 2014 12:25 PM

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... I'll drop it if they die before being properly raped :] Now, hate meh ^^
Oct 12, 2014 12:27 PM
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Sunrise form of entertainment (TM)

This has potential of being the next big entertainment of the year... both the series and the forums here.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
Niko-kun said:
On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Oct 12, 2014 12:34 PM

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Not that it's a defense but I find it funny that when you have lesbian sex scenes in shows like Monogatari or Prisma/Ilya just coming in largely out of nowhere it's considered not only 100% okay but incredibly desirable and praiseworthy but when it happens here the creators are awful awful horrible people. It just looks like a pretty brutal double standard at play.
Oct 12, 2014 12:46 PM

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That lesbian action though haha
It was quite okay. But that's it.

Oct 12, 2014 12:50 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Not that it's a defense but I find it funny that when you have lesbian sex scenes in shows like Monogatari or Prisma/Ilya just coming in largely out of nowhere it's considered not only 100% okay but incredibly desirable and praiseworthy but when it happens here the creators are awful awful horrible people. It just looks like a pretty brutal double standard at play.


I don't know about the average MAL user, but many anime fans I know irl detested the scenes there as well. Then again, Nisio and T/M fanbases are a bit special.
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Oct 12, 2014 12:54 PM

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Wow, Sunrise, you've outdone yourselves, this is even better than Valvrave (in the clusterfuck scale)
Oct 12, 2014 1:06 PM

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I dont really like this show...
but i promised myself I wouldn't drop any more shows unless they were the absolute worst. There may be a redeeming factor yet...
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Oct 12, 2014 1:08 PM

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You guys that say dropped...you will just be back anyway. How can you just not watch this glorious trainwreck happening.
Oct 12, 2014 1:14 PM
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Blind_Guardian said:
The captain's becoming one of my favorite characters, with her insatiable sexual appetite and dynamite body, not to mention a harem of hot girls waiting on her hand and foot (and other places).


Oct 12, 2014 1:42 PM

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Replayed Coco's death a few times, it's so over the top and obvious that it's just plain hilarious.
Oct 12, 2014 1:54 PM

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So are we getting a rape scene in every episode?

Seriously though, I know it ain't good.. but it's way too entertaining to drop.
Oct 12, 2014 2:21 PM
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The only thing I can say about this show is: Fuck yeah
Oct 12, 2014 2:32 PM

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wow didn't expect that sudden raping scene they should have more of those in the show just saying
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Oct 12, 2014 2:37 PM

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shit didnt expect that end.. ..

Oct 12, 2014 3:17 PM
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Mixed feelings about Ange's character. I like how she tries to act cool even with the seniors but at the same time, her arrogance kinda pisses me off.
I guess it'll be a while before she completely adapts to her fate.

Them fanservice and Yuri scene though.. I mean, (almost) everyone likes a bit of fanservice in the show, but that was just unnecessary. And it seems like this type of scenes will be in every episode from now on; Unless Zola dies, of course.

Coco's death wasn't as sad as it should've been. Perhaps the execution of the scene was poor or her character didn't develop enough for the audience to feel bad for her.

Average episode. Looks like Ange will get a little character development (mecha-wise) next week.

Oct 12, 2014 4:02 PM

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I don't know. The yuri doesn't give me any feels at all. Not even a tiny bit. But I don't see why it's a trainwreck. It's not too bad and it makes me feel empty and depressed at the end so it's a plus.

I also like Ange. Sure she can be annoying and stubborn but she's not a flimsy weak character or even a goofball idiot.

What a series to get back into anime with...
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Oct 12, 2014 4:09 PM

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You know, to be honest, while this anime is fanservice trashy, its really the main character's annoying personality that keeps me watching. The fact that she refuses to just accept the circumstances is real enough. However, her characterization doesn't just skim the surface of indignant princess here. She excels in what she knows, and falters entirely in common things she's never done. She doesn't find it odd to use people like when she had that high pitched girl buy things for her. She also finds it irritating to hear people praise her as a princess. It's a very clear drawn line between her and everyone else- and not just because she's being stubborn, but due to the fact that she genuinely believes that there's been some mistake. Ange's doing nearly everything to get out- from the constant declarations of her full name to the forms and breaking away from formation.

What I really think would have been fantastically intriguing is what her answer would have been to the high-pitched girl (who died) and said, "take me with you to the magic land". If Ange had sneered at her and called her a low life Norma or even if she had masked her disgust and decided to use the girl as a means to escape unharmed- either would have been some amazing depth in characterization. The fact that the ex-princess is so hateful and high and mighty is precisely why I haven't dropped this show yet. Done right, her characterization could evolve into something more dark and ugly instead of, "Oh the kingdom was wrong, Norma are human, let's all attain human equality guys!",making this questionable animation delve into a fantastic revenge fest (which is always fun to watch). So, the next episodes better have a lot more attitude and characterization cause that's all that this show's riding on for now. I really hope that we'll see Ange grow into an angst driven anti-heroine position.
Oct 12, 2014 4:15 PM
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Not that it's a defense but I find it funny that when you have lesbian sex scenes in shows like Monogatari or Prisma/Ilya just coming in largely out of nowhere it's considered not only 100% okay but incredibly desirable and praiseworthy but when it happens here the creators are awful awful horrible people. It just looks like a pretty brutal double standard at play.


Yeah there is a lot of hypocrisy with people when it come to this show.
Like criticizing this anime for sexual violence when you give Helsling Ultimate and Berserk a 9/10. Alacard rapes a woman with her gun! Tell me that scene wasn't meant to be sexual.

monogatari series that everyone loves has child molestation comedy.

Also I don't know if people know this but Fate/stay night was original a hentai game with rape.
Fate/Zero Manga and novel was penis monsters raping Sakura Matou as a child.

Before criticizing you should look at what you like first.
Oct 12, 2014 4:16 PM
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This show isn't a trainwreck at all, there's no reason to compare it to Freezing and Valvrave. And I don't know why people are offended about the gore when its nothing bloodier than something you'd find in a shounen anime. The only thing I've disliked about Cross Ange so far is knowing that Ange is going to cut that beautiful long hair of hers.
Oct 12, 2014 4:17 PM

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lejon_brames said:
This show isn't a trainwreck at all, there's no reason to compare it to Freezing and Valvrave. And I don't know why people are offended about the gore when its nothing bloodier than something you'd find in a shounen anime. The only thing I've disliked about Cross Ange so far is knowing that Ange is going to cut that beautiful long hair of hers.


LMFAO! Omg! So much relating. I'm dreading the moment she's going to cut her hair. She looks so nice :(
Oct 12, 2014 4:20 PM
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sarroush said:
lejon_brames said:
This show isn't a trainwreck at all, there's no reason to compare it to Freezing and Valvrave. And I don't know why people are offended about the gore when its nothing bloodier than something you'd find in a shounen anime. The only thing I've disliked about Cross Ange so far is knowing that Ange is going to cut that beautiful long hair of hers.


LMFAO! Omg! So much relating. I'm dreading the moment she's going to cut her hair. She looks so nice :(



Agreed, she looks so much worse with her short hair in the OP.
Oct 12, 2014 4:32 PM
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lejon_brames said:
sarroush said:


LMFAO! Omg! So much relating. I'm dreading the moment she's going to cut her hair. She looks so nice :(



Agreed, she looks so much worse with her short hair in the OP.


I don't like that drill she has on the right side.
Oct 12, 2014 5:23 PM

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Them fanservice and Yuri scene though.. I mean, (almost) everyone likes a bit of fanservice in the show, but that was just unnecessary. And it seems like this type of scenes will be in every episode from now on; Unless Zola dies, of course.


I don't think that it is exactly fanservice. It is more on a porn level. I mean, it looks like the plot focuses on having at least one rape (and one murder) scene per episode and flashing parts of female bodies all the rest of the time.

Well, at least it's different from other mainstream shows. Though I dislike that they keep showing body parts in viewers' faces even in scenes, that are supposed to be dramatic. Also some things simply don't add up. And the text during the next episode preview is terrible.

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This show seems catered to the masochistic type...

Yep, it looks like it's for the SM crowd.
Oct 12, 2014 5:26 PM

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Why the hell is this series so obsessed with Yuri? And rape? Just why? Also, why the hell was it censored? What is this? Terra Formars?

On the other hand, I kinda liked Coco, because she was probably the only character in the show (so far) that wasn't a MASSIVE DICK.
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Oct 12, 2014 5:30 PM

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i dont particularly like ange but i dont see the reason to hate her....she was raised as a princess so you should have the idea how prideful she is. being thrown to the prison of course she react like she did
some event can change someone life or even the personality...
Oct 12, 2014 5:32 PM

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Spirai said:
You know, to be honest, while this anime is fanservice trashy, its really the main character's annoying personality that keeps me watching. The fact that she refuses to just accept the circumstances is real enough. However, her characterization doesn't just skim the surface of indignant princess here. She excels in what she knows, and falters entirely in common things she's never done. She doesn't find it odd to use people like when she had that high pitched girl buy things for her. She also finds it irritating to hear people praise her as a princess. It's a very clear drawn line between her and everyone else- and not just because she's being stubborn, but due to the fact that she genuinely believes that there's been some mistake. Ange's doing nearly everything to get out- from the constant declarations of her full name to the forms and breaking away from formation.

What I really think would have been fantastically intriguing is what her answer would have been to the high-pitched girl (who died) and said, "take me with you to the magic land". If Ange had sneered at her and called her a low life Norma or even if she had masked her disgust and decided to use the girl as a means to escape unharmed- either would have been some amazing depth in characterization. The fact that the ex-princess is so hateful and high and mighty is precisely why I haven't dropped this show yet. Done right, her characterization could evolve into something more dark and ugly instead of, "Oh the kingdom was wrong, Norma are human, let's all attain human equality guys!",making this questionable animation delve into a fantastic revenge fest (which is always fun to watch). So, the next episodes better have a lot more attitude and characterization cause that's all that this show's riding on for now. I really hope that we'll see Ange grow into an angst driven anti-heroine position.



My thoughts exactly. Ange's downfall & development is the most interesting aspect of the show for me as well. I liked how she didn't do a 180 in that she still doesn't fully accept her situation. I'd rather have her development,come gradually instead of feeling rushed. And all in all, it feel's kind of fresh to have a main character like her.

But I was somewhat disappointed with this episode tbh. I'm kind of hoping for an entertaining trainwreck like Valvrave but Cross Ange has more fanservice than necessary(or at least this episode did) to the point that it seems to heavily rely on it. I just hope this won't turn out to be something like Freezing...
Oct 12, 2014 5:34 PM

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Damn i want the uncensored episodes now lol.

My advice to everyone is to not take this series seriously. I read a review where the guy was pissed and stuff. This anime is a bishoujo mecha. Don't take it seriously. Anyway, i'm actually enjoying it so far. I like the concept (which is cliche but in a good way) and the whole dimension this series is in While I don't have high hopes for this series, it's fun to watch. R.I.P Coco, you ain't going to the magical world now.
Oct 12, 2014 5:37 PM

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Nidhoeggr said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
Not that it's a defense but I find it funny that when you have lesbian sex scenes in shows like Monogatari or Prisma/Ilya just coming in largely out of nowhere it's considered not only 100% okay but incredibly desirable and praiseworthy but when it happens here the creators are awful awful horrible people. It just looks like a pretty brutal double standard at play.


I don't know about the average MAL user, but many anime fans I know irl detested the scenes there as well. Then again, Nisio and T/M fanbases are a bit special.


Stop being so smug. And there is a difference between glamorizing rape and using it for comedic purposes. Just because you have delicate sensibilities, doesn't mean you can call a group of people stupid and I like Nisio's stuff. Am I special? Go to hell.

Kaioshin needs to stop bringing up monogatari in every thread where someone criticizes his precious Sunrise. We get it, you don't like it so shut the fuck up. If you want to criticize the show go on the forums or write a fucking review.

On topic. This show is so trashy, but I must keep watching.
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Oct 12, 2014 5:37 PM

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JhysenTheAsian said:
My advice to everyone is to not take this series seriously.


Yes & no I guess. Looking at Cross Ange as an entertaining trainwreck is what I'm doing too,as well as recommend but I kind of want to take Ange's character development seriously.
Oct 12, 2014 5:41 PM

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DiviMike said:
JhysenTheAsian said:
My advice to everyone is to not take this series seriously.


Yes & no I guess. Looking at Cross Ange as an entertaining trainwreck is what I'm doing too,as well as recommend but I kind of want to take Ange's character development seriously.


Who knows, maybe this series will surprise us. Too early to tell though.
Oct 12, 2014 5:43 PM

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New girl in prison. That attitude. The fact that her family are the reason the the Norma are enslaved. Now she has gone and hot somebody killed. I think she has gotten off pretty lightly with the treatment she has received thus far.
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