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| I see people comparing cowboy bebop with Samurai Champloo, well both are good in their own ways, i got the bittersweet ending vibes from both series. It sux because Spike died but the way he said "bang" was so epic, it's been a fun ride tho and now i kinda feel bad for Faye, after finally found her place now she lost one of her comrades, and i like how Jet just calmly letting Spike to settle things up with his past. Perhaps Jet was right, Spike should just get over from his past and start a new live maybe start a relationship with anoter woman, i ship Spike x Faye so hard you don't even know, i will miss their sillyness together, also Ed and Ein :') Overall score 8/10 |
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| I cant really put my finger on it but for some reason Im really disappointed with this anime. The first episode was absolutely amazing. And these last episodes where also nice. But there is so much stuff which should have been shown instead for all the random filler like episodes. Also while Faye came back, Im highly disappointed that Ed and Ein just left- without any impact whatsoever on the story. I see why people like it so much and I kinda like it myself. But for a classic I really think this should have been better. PS Im glad to see Im not the only one with this impression here. It probably was kinda influential at its time, then again we dont have much sci fi anime like this these days anymore. |
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Comander-07 said: But there is so much stuff which should have been shown instead for all the random filler like episodes. Also while Faye came back, Im highly disappointed that Ed and Ein just left- without any impact whatsoever on the story. I think that's the point of the series, though - just like life, things aren't explicitly spelled out for the viewer, and it's up the viewer to put the pieces together and figure things out as best as we can. I've seen a lot of gripes about the "random filler episodes," but they're really not so random as one thinks - they show us how the characters act and think in different situations, and in doing so, tell us all those things you say aren't shown. Take Faye, for example - when we first see her, she's a tough girl who "shoots them before they can shoot you" and unapologetically steals stuff. By the end of the series, we've discovered that she's been alone for a long time (literally alone, since everyone she knew is either dead or ancient and she doesn't remember them anyways) and she's afraid to trust people. She comes back to the Bebop of her own volition to relay Julia's message, and cries when her world crumbles around her again. It's a huge change in character, but we don't question it by the end of the series because we've been seeing her slowly evolve throughout the series into a vulnerable, lonely human being who just wants somewhere to belong. Ed and Ein have more of an impact on the story than seen at first glance as well. It's subtle, but their presence draws out character traits that we wouldn't see otherwise, like when Faye confides her past to Ein. They're both blank slates in a way, so the way the other characters interact with them tells us a lot more about the characters than what the characters say about themselves. When Ed first appeared, for example, the episode ends with Spike griping about Ed's and Ein's presence on board their ship, and he doesn't seem to interact with them much throughout the series. Yet when they leave, you can tell that Ed's goodbye message is tearing him up. The way he stares down at it tells you more about how he felt about them and their being part of the same crew than having him actually monologue about it (which would have been out of character for him anyways). This is actually precisely why I absolutely love Shinichiro Watanabe's works and Bebop in particular: quite often it's the scenes with no dialogue that convey the most meaning. Samurai Champloo and Space Dandy did this as well, but in my opinion Cowboy Bebop did it the best. Whether it's just a short scene, like the split-second glimpse we get of Ed's pinwheel on the Bebop at the end of Hard Luck Woman, or a longer segment, like when Spike has flashbacks to his Red Dragon days while he's falling out of the cathedral in Ballad of Fallen Angels, Watanabe's works really do prove that, not only is a picture is worth a thousand words, sometimes it can convey meaning better than words ever could. |
| The final act was basically a John Woo movie. There were even white doves. Cowboy Bebop was a generally fun show, though occasionally too macho for me. I was never really able to identify with Spike's cockiness, and his ambiguous death was even more gratuitous than Julia's. Faye and Ed were the most interesting, but even their developments were meager. With 26 episodes, there was plenty of time—about 8 1/2 hours—to show more facets of these characters. Instead, they used about a quarter of that time with filler—some great (looking at you episode 20); most not so great (episode 22). The art, animation, and soundtrack were the definite standout features. For a nearly 20-year-old show, it looked and sounded amazing—arguably better than most modern shows. When Cowboy Bebop was good, it was really good, and it had impact. It's clear to see how it became the anime gateway drug for adult animation fans in the West. Episode: 4/5 Overall: 7/10 |
| Damnit for a moment there it seemed like he made it out alive, but then he went with a "bang" Anyway, great finale for a great anime. |
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small44 said: One of the most overrated anime,yes the music,animation and art are amazing but content wise it's just boring. The criminals are the bland except one or two and we learned nearly nothing about the main character and julia. 6/10 to me. death note rated as 10 |
| i will not disagree that code geass isn't great. my 8 is just because the use of the name RURUCHI RAMPARUJI. 9 for the first season because of the originality in it |
I thought this was a good end as it doesn’t fully tell you if spike is dead or not it leaves that to you (the viewer) this leaves me with a shimmer of hope that he may still be alive and kicking with Jet and Faye  |
THEhobo55 said: this leaves me with a shimmer of hope that he may still be alive and kicking with Jet and Faye There is no way that could happen. Even if he wasn't dead when he fell do you really think the guys surrounded him would let him live or take him to a hospital? Besides, the last scene where shows the star fading away confirms Spike's death. |
| I felt like I had to force myself to watch this anime. Some spots were good others were kinda meh, the story felt to episodic instead of a straight story. The last two episodes were fantastic but thats not enough for me to recommend it :I |
| I love how after all these years, with all these anime, this thread is still listed as "most recently replied to", every single time I log into MAL. That's Bebop's true legacy for ya! Uchiha-D-Ichigo said: The author himself said in the interview " I never confirmed spikes death. At this point, I can't say whether he is alive or not." So he left it to user interpretation. topunuzunamk said: THEhobo55 said: this leaves me with a shimmer of hope that he may still be alive and kicking with Jet and Faye There is no way that could happen. Even if he wasn't dead when he fell do you really think the guys surrounded him would let him live or take him to a hospital? Besides, the last scene where shows the star fading away confirms Spike's death. It doesn't, it could just as well been Vicious' or any other's. I'm not saying the ending doesn't hint strongly at it, but you should know better than to use circumstantial evidence like this as supposed conclusive evidence of his death. It's Spike after all. |
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| @Zyner59 Purely playing Devil's advocate here, since it's known how I feel about Spike's supposed death, and argued against it just three posts above yours, but: While you're right about Spike not making a single mistake, at least from his point of view - from another perspective you could say the right choice'd been to ditch Julia and just pick up with Jet and Faye - you should consider the three points below. 1. A large degree of randomness and it being essential to being alive is one of the main theme's of the show, meaning he could very well have never made a mistake and still make one in the end. 2. It's incorrect to believe that not making a mistake warrants a 'reward' or that people get what they deserve. 3. It's also not correct to assume that life would be the given reward in the first place. If Spike aimed for anything like a reward, it'd been closure, and he got that. He will even have gotten that through death, if we assume he did die. |
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| The last two episodes were undeniably the best of this show. I did not expect Faye to show up again but it's a good thing she did as things would be empty without her. I feel bad for her, she finally found a person that she can come back to, and he leaves permanently. That hit hard. The action scenes of Spike and the syndicate were pretty amazing, but of course the fight with Vicious was the cherry on the cake. it was just perfect in length, direction and there wasn't much dialogue, they just got it done. And in the end, we got one of the best anime deaths. R.I.P Spike Don't forget Shin though. He was excellent and he deserved to live. 9/10 |
| This show deserves the praises, I'm just kinda sad that I didn't enjoy it as much as I would've liked... Technically speaking it was great, the visuals and the shots composition were on another level. And the soundtrack was really fitting and original. Unfortunately I didn't connect with the characters enough to care about most of the episodes, I only managed to be emotionnaly invested for Faye's backstory and episodes 24 and 26. Maybe I'll enjoy it more when I'll rewatch it in a couple of years. See you space cowboy. |
| I also was spoiled on Spike's death, and yet that last scene still hit me like a truck. So impactful. I wasn't really sure how I was going to rate this show up until the last two episodes due to the helter-skelter mode that the one-off episodes take, but the double finale really helped its case. |
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| a mixbag full of great, good and a couple of bad and meh episodes. it was good to watch it all over again after almost 2 decades. I dont think it deserves to be that high in MAL, but still a recommended one from the 90s oh yes, and that song at the end of episode 26 was boring, they should have kept the original ending (even if repeated) or chose that one during the sunset in episode 24. the music was more a win than a fail most of the time. Even for a guy like me who avoids nervous sax solos from bebop music. |
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MxKIkO said: can someone explain to me "bang"? Spike did that in both episodes 6 and 26. Is it just to be cool or it has a meaning? Like everything else in Bebop, it really means whatever you want it to mean. :) Me, personally, though, I always thought there was a connection. In episode 6, when Wen dies, he says something like "I finally feel at peace. Do you understand?" and Spike answers "Not at all" before ending with "bang." I've always thought Spike's last word is "bang" because he finally understands what Wen meant. After years of running from his past, searching for Julia, and generally avoiding life's responsibilities, he can finally put down that weight and rest in peace. Hence the final eyecatch, "you're gonna carry that weight," meaning the weight has now been transferred to us, the viewers, who get to go on living. |
| I've finally been able to watch this classic. Cowboy Bebop has been a great journey. For an episodic show the characters felt so honest and real. The animation was top notch! This series was amazingly thoughtful and covered many interesting theories. Especially "Brain Scratch" was very well put together. I am definitely going to watch the movie to properly end this adventure called Cowboy Bebop :) |
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| RIP Spike, you were cool. Faye and Ed made this boring for me, it would have been a masterpiece with only Spike and Jet and their backstories. |
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Ulquiorra said: It would have been a masterpiece with only Spike and Jet and their backstories. It would have been an efficient but common movie (or a very barebone series). The backstories were a good way to have a "thread" wrapping the series together while the numerous (non-)"fillers" are what make the main trunk, reinforcing the themes of the show. |
| The ending was fenomenal. I loved the final 3 episodes. There were a few episodes where the writing felt kind of weak, but most of them were good. Of all anime I've ever seen, this one is at the top with a few others when it comes to OST value. The animation and character design were also really good for the year this was released. I can see why this anime is praised by many people. 9/10 see you space cowboy |
| God... let me forget it. I don't want to carry that weight. See you space cowboy... |
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| I'm not expecting this kind of ending, damn... |
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| Wow. Now I can finally understand why this is considered a real Classic. Truly one of the finest pieces of Anime Art ever produced. RIP Spike Spiegel. See you Space Cowboy. |
| So in the end both Spike and his nemesis died, same with the girl. Jet and Faye are still hunting bounties and Ed and Ein are somewhere doing something. Not a bad ending actually. Overall I can't really understand why this show is so popular tbh. Maybe it's just pure nostalgia, but the episodic format didn't really develop the story or characters and there wasn't really anything in there which makes it stand out from the rest of sci-fi anime imo. The soundtrack was really gorgeous though. 5/10 |
AfroWarrior27 said: Gator said: So in the end both Spike and his nemesis died, same with the girl. Jet and Faye are still hunting bounties and Ed and Ein are somewhere doing something. Not a bad ending actually. Overall I can't really understand why this show is so popular tbh. Maybe it's just pure nostalgia, but the episodic format didn't really develop the story or characters and there wasn't really anything in there which makes it stand out from the rest of sci-fi anime imo. The soundtrack was really gorgeous though. 5/10 Wow, you give Akame ga Kill! an 8 and Fairy Tail a 10 but you give Cowboy Bebop a 5 and FMA Brotherhood a 6? Your taste in anime is terrible. Those are some sound arguments, I see you put a lot of thought into your response. |
| Let's talk about the final episode. I'm glad that the characters didn't have plot armor but the thing that bothered me was Julia's death...it was underwhelming. That could be good in a better situation. I loved the ambiguous ending. Spike is a really cool character but i think that he is dead. I mean, just look at his wounds. I still kinda wish that Spike would have lived but that'd take all the realism. Too bad I was already spoiled that he was going to die. Some episodes (ep. 20, 24, 5, Faye episodes) were really good, the rest were ok, average or shit (ep. 6, 19, 21, 2). A little epilogue should've been there. I'm going to miss this show. 7/10 for the anime. |
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| Living in the past will kill you. 10/10 would change nothing, enjoyed it to the fullest. |
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| I'm gonna level with y'all. Cowboy Bebop is extremely overrated. Is it a bad show? Absolutely not. However, now that I can see it, I can say that in my opinion this show does not deserve its reputation. Allow me to explain why. Oh, and I also watched this for my 2019 AWC. Cowboy Bebop has widely been regarded as one of the most famous pieces of anime in history. With an insanely loyal cult following, a majority of 10s on MAL, and so much more, it is fair to say that people really enjoy Cowboy Bebop. And I can say that I was one of those people. I enjoyed Cowboy Bebop. The problem may have fundamentally been that I was given this godlike image that Cowboy Bebop would shatter my expectations as to what an anime should be and what the medium can accomplish, but even without such expectations I believe i would have had a few issues with Cowboy Bebop. But first, let me stop being a negative nancy and allow me to explain what I liked. It goes without saying that Cowboy Bebop has exceptional audiovisual elements, so I won't stay too long on this subject. The animation was clearly driven with passion, love, and care, and it seriously shows. For a show almost two decades old, it looks better than shows literally airing this season (looking at you Arifureta). That's impressive and the show deserves praise for that. The soundtrack is also brilliant and unique, unlike anything I have heard before. It fits the tone of the show perfectly. It reminded me a lot of FLCL (which I also watched recently) in its uniqueness. The characters (at least, the recurring ones) are alive and entertaining. While none of them are anything particularly special, of the main cast none of them annoyed me to the point of detracting from my enjoyment. The biggest issue with Cowboy Bebop is the story. Now, I wish to make something clear. I am okay with episodic shows. Gintama is, for example, extremely episodic. While Gintama and Cowboy Bebop don't even begin to overlap in terms of what kind of show they are, both are similar in that only a fraction of their episodes consist of episodes relevant to their overarching plot. So my issue isn't with the episodic nature of the show. It's with how the story itself was handled. I had the same problem with the movie. There are too many conveniences that I have to take for granted for this story to be considered good. Not to mention I sometimes felt like my time was just being wasted. I still can't understand the point behind that one refrigerator episode. What did that serve? It was just a wasted episode. The characters weren't developed and nothing of substance happened, so it really did feel like a waste of 24 minutes. Another issue comes from the vast majority (but not all) of the episodic characters introduced. Some are just bad characters (that one girl that hung out with Jet, for example) while others just aren't given enough time to be developed (that transgender guy/girl). This doesn't dismiss the fact that those are both examples of poor characters. I've gone on for long enough on something nobody is going to read, so allow me to wrap this up. Cowboy Bebop is a great show that likely doesn't fit in with my taste very well. I can absolutely see the appeal in this anime and I have no issue with someone rating it a 9 or a 10, but for me personally? 8/10. |
| @anaazkim The final episode (or films) threads are often used for such posts. The writer might not consider this asnan actual critique paper. November 26, 2019 @Viewed So, the greatness is only coming from Spike's "story" and the whole theme "past and weight" explored through the other characters (+ some one-off scenario) and the episodes adventuring in other genres are weighing the final product down? (just curious) |
Rei_IIINov 26, 2019 5:42 AM
anaazkim said: Rei_III said: @anaazkim The final episode (or films) threads are often used for such posts. The writer might not consider this asnan actual critique paper. And you are his lawyer I presume? Just because people are doing something wrong doesn't mean it becomes alright after a time and warning them about their mistake might prevent such actions to be repeated in the future. Capiche? I mean, it's exactly as @Rei_III said. Nowadays, I only post on the final episode thread for a series, so I tend to want to sum up my thoughts. I just had more to say than usual this time. I'm not too sure what the problem was, nor do I see it as a "mistake." It isn't bothering anyone. In fact, I would make the argument that arguing over whether or not it belongs here is more off topic than the original post we are discussing about. It isn't hurting anyone, it isn't doing any harm, let's just leave it at that. I legitimately don't see the problem here. It isn't like there are rules on how someone can or can't interpret the final episode. But I'll make sure to shorten my thoughts in the future, just for you. Ease up man. Not sure why you needed to come off so aggressive, but you aren't doing anyone, including yourself, any good. It's all gonna be alright. |
anaazkim said: Gytanzo said: It isn't like there are rules on how someone can or can't interpret the final episode. Guess again, smartass. Since you are too lazy to check the rules let me help you with that. Read rule number 2 , https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=516053#msg18239905 Lol, you really want to go there? Excusing the fact that it almost looks like you made a throwaway just to try and call me out, which is pathetic, I've literally seen MODERATORS of this website break these "rules." I don't have the time or interest to continue this discussion. I don't even care if I come out of this right or wrong. I don't want to spend my life arguing over something as pointless as an ANIME DISCUSSION THREAD. If you want to report me, be my guest. Go fuck yourself, and have a great day. |
| Wonderful anime! Great finale, and i think it was not possible to Spike lives a happy end after all, he lives for he past, and not exist present in there. Maybe if Julia's have survived, but they would be persecuted forever. This is a tragic story! Classic one. |
| I used to think cowboy Bebop isn't worth watching I mean so many years already passed and these days there are other animes with better animations and plot. That was so stupid of me. So I made my mind and start watching it. I have to say that was a good decision I had made. It was a crazy ride with lots of ups and downs and I'm happy that I watched Thais masterpiece. there are some episodes like for example ep24 (when ein and Ed leaves) honestly I have never thought I would be so sad seeing them leaving (couse her character is not so likeable from the beginning). Cowboy Bebop is now one of my favorites ★ 10/10 So please don't judge an anime by it's popularity,reviews or when it's made (my old self). experience it yourself :) |
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