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Jul 5, 2013 8:51 PM
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Tarextherex said:
However, I think the ending was pretty stupid. So they saw a video of their family that quickly switches for a picture of their home in shambles, and then they suddenly get the urge of wanting to get out. Even if it's true, why would that make them want to get out, they won't have anything to go back for


Unless the videos really were different for everyone, but I don't get how that would give the "main character" a "motive" to get out. If someone could just point out how this aspect still actually makes sense and won't turn the story about characters behaving in a very irrational way killing each other, that would be very appreciated. That's a question that normally shouldn't need slight spoilers to answer.


Ah, this was a part that wasn't explained entirely? Though they might elaborate in the next episode.

The videos they were shown weren't necessarily of their families, and it was different for everyone. Basically, Monobear was giving them a motive to want to leave the school by showing them something they cared about ruined/destroyed. It makes them want to leave because they want to make sure it's not real, or that everything's okay. Sure, they could argue that the videos are fake, but what if they aren't? That's how it motivates them to kill, since the only way to escape is to commit murder.

The thing is, we've only seen Naegi's video by this point. His video may have not given him enough motive to kill, but for someone else, they may be a lot more desperate to escape.
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KuroneDLC said:
Tarextherex said:
However, I think the ending was pretty stupid. So they saw a video of their family that quickly switches for a picture of their home in shambles, and then they suddenly get the urge of wanting to get out. Even if it's true, why would that make them want to get out, they won't have anything to go back for


Unless the videos really were different for everyone, but I don't get how that would give the "main character" a "motive" to get out. If someone could just point out how this aspect still actually makes sense and won't turn the story about characters behaving in a very irrational way killing each other, that would be very appreciated. That's a question that normally shouldn't need slight spoilers to answer.


Ah, this was a part that wasn't explained entirely? Though they might elaborate in the next episode.

The videos they were shown weren't necessarily of their families, and it was different for everyone. Basically, Monobear was giving them a motive to want to leave the school by showing them something they cared about ruined/destroyed. It makes them want to leave because they want to make sure it's not real, or that everything's okay. Sure, they could argue that the videos are fake, but what if they aren't? That's how it motivates them to kill, since the only way to escape is to commit murder.

The thing is, we've only seen Naegi's video by this point. His video may have not given him enough motive to kill, but for someone else, they may be a lot more desperate to escape.


We actually do get to see a couple other videos too, and if i remmember correctly a couple of characters say what was on theirs. they are personalized to each character and what they hold dear

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 5, 2013 9:09 PM

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Reminded me of a more diverse House of Nine, love it.

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some battle royal shit going down. i can fap to this too.
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Jul 5, 2013 9:30 PM
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
We actually do get to see a couple other videos too, and if i remmember correctly a couple of characters say what was on theirs. they are personalized to each character and what they hold dear


That's why I included "by this point." By the end of this episode the anime-only people only know about Naegi's.
Jul 5, 2013 9:44 PM

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Nice episode, amazing OST! Ishimaru (the one with the red eyes) kinda reminds me of Tsubaki from SKET Dance.
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Didn't get the chance to watch much of anything that aired on Thursday because of it being July 4. I'm glad I saw this though. This looks promising.
Jul 5, 2013 10:01 PM
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KuroneDLC said:
Tarextherex said:
However, I think the ending was pretty stupid. So they saw a video of their family that quickly switches for a picture of their home in shambles, and then they suddenly get the urge of wanting to get out. Even if it's true, why would that make them want to get out, they won't have anything to go back for


Unless the videos really were different for everyone, but I don't get how that would give the "main character" a "motive" to get out. If someone could just point out how this aspect still actually makes sense and won't turn the story about characters behaving in a very irrational way killing each other, that would be very appreciated. That's a question that normally shouldn't need slight spoilers to answer.


Ah, this was a part that wasn't explained entirely? Though they might elaborate in the next episode.

The videos they were shown weren't necessarily of their families, and it was different for everyone. Basically, Monobear was giving them a motive to want to leave the school by showing them something they cared about ruined/destroyed. It makes them want to leave because they want to make sure it's not real, or that everything's okay. Sure, they could argue that the videos are fake, but what if they aren't? That's how it motivates them to kill, since the only way to escape is to commit murder.

The thing is, we've only seen Naegi's video by this point. His video may have not given him enough motive to kill, but for someone else, they may be a lot more desperate to escape.



I see, thanks. Yeah come to think of it only the girl turned crazy after watching the video, not the main guy. A bit unconvincing as a "dark cliffhanger" but I guess it evens it out when things get actually explained

Also just saying I'm pretty surprised by the amount of negative comments, it's pretty funny how people with usually lenient scores nitpick the hell out of adaptations. Surprised this didn't get as much as "first episode hype" than sao or snk, deserves it more tbh. Even by the first episode alone the characters aren't stereotypes, for exemple there's a female programmer, that doesnt fit in any -dere. The dialogue actually has some wit to it and the feeling of "youth vs adults" theme seem to actually be there and will be developed, unlike some other recent survival game series that had that only to try to hook the viewers with the premise in a superficial way. This is coming from someone who hasn't played the game btw. Just chill out and enjoy the non-generic anime of the season
Jul 5, 2013 10:06 PM

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Just finished the first episode, damn can already tell this is going to be one of those fucked up psychological thrillers.

Super SUPER excited to see how this whole thing plays out.
Jul 5, 2013 10:23 PM

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Detrimont said:

To be fair about the DS2 adaption(even with how unfaithful it was), it was still well directed, it's the writers fault it was bad...

I'm glad to see that other people are defending the director. Unfortunately, if what you said was true, then all my worries are still found. The script writer/series composition, Uezu Makoto, the same person who worked with director Kishi Seiji for the Devil Survivor 2 adaption, is also doing the same for this anime adaption. Then again, there is no concrete evidence at from whatever source I gathered of Uezu Makoto being the script writer of DS2, but just as the series composition of it - there was no one credited for doing the script for it.

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But anyway, i dont know the game that well,seeing as i havent played it, nor have i read the manga, but i think it's going well so far(i badly want a localized version of the game though). if it diverges later on someone should tell me.

There /is/ an English translation patch released a few weeks back. Some of us forumites have recently finished it, and are happy that we get see the characters being animated. And yeah, we will tell you if it does deviate from the original plot.

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It's also apparently based off the official manga(there's some doujinshi adaptions of it as well), and that is apparently quite good and very faithful(dont hold my word to it though)

Is that so? I will check it out, just to make sure if it's actually following it.
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I don't get it. Did the principal shut down the school or something? Cuz I'm pretty other they're not the only ones that go there...
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VERY EXCITED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!

Seems like this will definitely be my favorite anime of the season; I hope it doesn't let me down!!!
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Jul 5, 2013 10:47 PM
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Pretty good first episode.
If I was the main character I will just kill the fat man as my first day in school in there. Very easy and not going to deal with that type of bullshit.
Will keep watching this. I love the story. Characters are good. I wonder what the red guy will do something epic because he is funny and cool, and that one character who wants to act alone is also cool, and will be very interesting in the later episodes.
EDIT What are these parents thinking on sending everyone to that school in the first place?
5/5
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AnimeFtw1 said:
I don't get it. Did the principal shut down the school or something? Cuz I'm pretty other they're not the only ones that go there...


What say I think the principal did in fact shut the school down and locked all the doors so people won't rescue them.
Jul 5, 2013 11:10 PM
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GoldenBRS said:
What are these parents thinking on sending everyone to that school in the first place?

Well it's not like the parents knew their kid would be trapped in the school and forced to kill to escape o v o;; Even the kids themselves didn't expect this.
Jul 5, 2013 11:14 PM
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Can somebody say, "Persona"? But seriously, I got a major feel of the Persona vibe from this episode. It's sort of like it, but with a horror sense in it. And that Monobear. It's like Jigsaw and Kyubey had a baby, and it turned into a bear. XD

INSTANT WATCH!
Jul 5, 2013 11:17 PM

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I genuinely don't want any of the characters to die, so it pains me on thinking that the majority of the cast is going to be brutally murdered. Still pretty rad though.
Jul 5, 2013 11:22 PM

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They brought up the killing thing, but not that it has to be done without anyone else knowing. (From the synopsis). Did I just miss that or is that brought up later?
Jul 5, 2013 11:39 PM

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Oh, I love how it is going. As I thought, I lovet that literary girl and quiet plus those unique-haired girls. Love the plot.

Btw is that a Trap I see? if you know what i mean. I have a feeling that Maizono is planning to kill the main character after getting close to him...

The moment one murder will be done, it is gonna become a whole mess. People will get jealous that one of them can get out and thus, it will give rise to the desire of murdering. Really interesting.

9/10
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Jul 5, 2013 11:45 PM

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SaberEdge said:
They brought up the killing thing, but not that it has to be done without anyone else knowing. (From the synopsis). Did I just miss that or is that brought up later?
It comes up later. It isn't really a spoiler for us viewers, but it does take the characters by surprise
Jul 6, 2013 12:11 AM

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SaberEdge said:
They brought up the killing thing, but not that it has to be done without anyone else knowing. (From the synopsis). Did I just miss that or is that brought up later?

I'm playing the game right now and it's shortly touched upon during the meeting in the cafe. Sayaka brings it up during the conversation. I really wish they talked about it during the meeting. It would've greatly darkened the atmosphere.
Jul 6, 2013 12:12 AM

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RarityRoyale said:
SaberEdge said:
They brought up the killing thing, but not that it has to be done without anyone else knowing. (From the synopsis). Did I just miss that or is that brought up later?
It comes up later. It isn't really a spoiler for us viewers, but it does take the characters by surprise
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SaberEdge said:
They brought up the killing thing, but not that it has to be done without anyone else knowing. (From the synopsis). Did I just miss that or is that brought up later?

I'm playing the game right now and it's shortly touched upon during the meeting in the cafe. Sayaka brings it up during the conversation. I really wish they talked about it during the meeting. It would've greatly darkened the atmosphere.


Alright, thanks. I was a little confused because I read the synopsis right before watching the episode, and was almost waiting for it. But if it's brought up later, that's fine.
Jul 6, 2013 12:46 AM

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Immediately I LOVE all the female characters. The animation is soooo nice :')

I can't wait to see more of Kyouko Kirigiri and Touko Fukawa ("Just because I'm ugly..") haehheaheehe
Jul 6, 2013 12:48 AM

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Damn, looking forward to this.

I tend to watch one anime on-going every season and I think I chose the right one. :)
Jul 6, 2013 12:51 AM

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That hair.

It wasn't what I expected and that's in a bad way, all the characters seem uninteresting. I hope to see a better episode next week.
Jul 6, 2013 1:26 AM

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What can I say? I've been waiting for this for a long time, and I'm super duper teehee excited to see it's finally out! I love the bright and vibrant colors, the voice actors and actresses, and the characters, of course! Just... my animated children, I'm gonna cry.

The animation is a bit awkward to me sometimes and it goes a tad quickly, but who cares? DANGAN RONPA ANIMATED, EEEE. //// I really can't wait for the rest! I'm so impatient!
Jul 6, 2013 1:30 AM

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The bear's voice is atrocious. Makes me wanna go deaf.
Characters' design aren't better either and those titles are stupid as hell, but I think this obnoxious pop culture feel was intentional?

Might as well play the game at this point.
Jul 6, 2013 1:59 AM

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only 13 episodes?! :/
I haven't played the game, but I think it's pretty obvious who'll die first and who'll try to kill someone first...
also, my guess so far is that the ???? girl will survive as well as that nerdy guy (just looked it up - his name is Togami)... not sure about the rest though
like the voice/laugh of Monobear btw
but I'm not that impressed tbh
Jul 6, 2013 2:04 AM

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as well as that nerdy guy (just looked it up - his name is Togami)..


Not nerdy though, he's the Super Duper Highschool Scion/Heir, coming from a wealthy and noble family who controls Japan from the backgrounds.

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Jul 6, 2013 2:05 AM

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The pacing was fast compared to the game, but this was still a very good first episode.

And that Monobear laugh at the end was glorious.
Jul 6, 2013 2:36 AM
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Creepy school and a crazy bear principal.
Jul 6, 2013 3:32 AM

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I love this anime already !
Jul 6, 2013 3:35 AM

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This feels like it will be popular and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo overrated . Anyway for a first episode it was nice.
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Jul 6, 2013 3:37 AM

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Why is MC usualy the one that spouting something about moral? And sure as hell I won't remember all the character name by the end of the series.
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Jul 6, 2013 3:58 AM
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This was way too good.
Jul 6, 2013 4:56 AM

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i'm just mad they went with super duper instead of super highschool level...

Why? Please explain, is it because it is not following the "original source?"

I understand the reasons why you'd be mad about the Shaman/Fortune Teller ordeal, but why Super Duper, and why not on the other title changes?
Jul 6, 2013 5:01 AM

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I love it how they used all the original voices, even the monobear! I haven't played the whole game though, just the demo.
Jul 6, 2013 6:06 AM

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The animation looks just like being transplanted from the game (ok I have not played the game but have seen footage of play), and I am not sure if it is necessarily a good thing or not.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jul 6, 2013 6:42 AM

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So far I have to say this is the best new anime in summer 2013
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The bear's voice is atrocious. Makes me wanna go deaf.
Characters' design aren't better either and those titles are stupid as hell, but I think this obnoxious pop culture feel was intentional?

Might as well play the game at this point.


Oh look, another person calling the voice Doraemon (You know, basically the icon of anime) atrocious. I'm sorry, but your anime license has been revoked as well.
Jul 6, 2013 6:49 AM

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So far is not bad

I'm curious to see how this whole thing gonna end
Jul 6, 2013 7:03 AM

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I already know that I will like this anime very much. The animation is somehow unusual, but it's okay. The characters seem interesting and pretty likeable (apart from the MC, too much of Shinji's vibes... must be the VA) and I'm really curious who's going to die/kill first. That bear is really twisted, in a funny way though.
I'm really looking forward to the next episode.
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Jul 6, 2013 7:06 AM

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precious said:
as well as that nerdy guy (just looked it up - his name is Togami)..


Not nerdy though, he's the Super Duper Highschool Scion/Heir, coming from a wealthy and noble family who controls Japan from the backgrounds.


He's also my husband, don't forget that.

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The animation looks just like being transplanted from the game (ok I have not played the game but have seen footage of play), and I am not sure if it is necessarily a good thing or not.

I see it as a good thing though, being loyal to the original source and keeping the original artsy feel of the game.

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i'm just mad they went with super duper instead of super highschool level, and that hagakure was called shaman and not fortuneteller

I guess UTW followed the fan translation from the PSP game

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Jul 6, 2013 8:00 AM
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Well, if they follow the game's plot then the one who will die first will be .........
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precious said:
as well as that nerdy guy (just looked it up - his name is Togami)..


Not nerdy though, he's the Super Duper Highschool Scion/Heir, coming from a wealthy and noble family who controls Japan from the backgrounds.

He's also this story's Residential asshole.....and thats why we all love him

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 6, 2013 8:13 AM

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oh, that was really nice. the introduction of the characters was very well done. i also liked the character design - kind of freaky, but at the same time quite unique. and the music was awesome.

the voice of the monobear annoyed me a bit tbh because i actually expected him to have a deeper voice. but that's just a minor issue and i'll probably get used to it.

but they did a very bad job with chihiro. i mean
Jul 6, 2013 8:23 AM

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Loved it gonna be watching this for sure, 15 unique character all with difference voice actors, creepy vibe might be the only one to say this But BR anyone? if so this will be epic.
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Wow, this is like the most variety in characters I've ever seen together.
Seeing as they put a tally at the end of the episode saying "15 members", it's pretty obvious people are going to kill to get out after all.

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Onyxthegreat said:
it's pretty obvious people are going to kill to get out after all.
You expected otherwise?

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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