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Nov 29, 2012 7:45 PM
#51
^ Ah crap, yeah, I forgot Akinari Matsuno. I agree, NervousWreck. Japanese people should learn how to give themselves a vacation once in a while. |
Nov 29, 2012 7:48 PM
#52
Nov 29, 2012 7:52 PM
#53
sounds like a workaholic. |
Nov 29, 2012 7:53 PM
#54
MM-Rosiie said: Orix said: Better plan on the ending before you meet yours, Oda-sensei. He's said before he has the whole story planned out. You can tell with all the interconnected aspects of the series that it's true... (He didn't just start OP and went along with it. =.=) So don't say that. . _ . And he needs to live long enough to create more even after One Piece! Please keep healthy, Oda-sensei. :A: This SOOOO MUUUCH. This is surely one of the main, if not the top reason One Piece unlike almost all manga has not only maintained the quality of the story but has managed to make it more interesting and increase his fanbase. It is almost impossible to see this, even more in a long running shounen series. The are long running series of different genres, with very dedicated fans, but to see something at the top for more than a decade and increase year by year its base and the quality of the work...its almost fiction. malvarez1 said: Geez, he works a lot. I guess thats why One Piece is a quality manga. Maybe it would be best if he finished the series soon. WHY? NO, we are 10 years short for that to happen, we are only halfway through it. It will end when it has too, I am sure it OP will be at its peak when it does and wont be dragged on unlike certain other manga and mangakas. |
9988Nov 29, 2012 7:56 PM
Nov 29, 2012 7:55 PM
#55
Orix said: IntroverTurtle: He should hurry. By how he's wasting his body (three hours of sleep, wtf), he's real close to burning out. The only question is when this will happen, or whether it has happened in the past without you guys knowing. ZoroShiSon: I've decided long ago that I wouldn't touch the manga series. MM-Rosiie: It's reality. There's so many authors that might have died before fully realizing their works of literature. There's The Wheel of Time series, and in Japan, the Kaze no Stigma series. Zero no Tsukaima's in danger as well, with its author seeking medication for his cancer. LOL ok then i don't even know why you are even talking , you haven't even read the series yet you are judging it , doesn't really make sense ,does it ?? |
Nov 29, 2012 8:02 PM
#56
xxJing said: darkmac said: How does he work so much and still have such bad art? This may have been an insult , but I will take the other path here and consider it an inquiry. I personally would like to know that myself. Mainly because: 1. He must have a few assistants, every mangaka does. So he isn't doing it all himself. 2. He does around 17-20 pages a week , which is the norm. So like people said, whether the art is good or bad is subjective. However level of detail is objective, and a higher level of detail takes more time. And while I love One Piece, I have never marveled at the art of it. On the other hand, there are other mangas like Mahou Sensei Negima for example, while the character design in that was extremely simple, I often wondered to myself how Akamatsu was able to draw such detailed buildings and backgrounds for 1 panel, it must have taken him forever. Air Gear by Ogure had some extremely detailed character designs and action scenes on the other hand. Both of those mangas, while they took frequent breaks, were weekly serialized and also around 20 pages each. This article suggests that Oda works harder than any mangaka, meaning harder than Ogure and Akamatsu who have very detailed art in comparison. It just makes me wonder, what part of the creative process takes him so much time. As a side note, I can believe he barely sleeps, because only a hallucination induced imagination could produce the oddity that is the world of one piece. Being the number one manga, keeping the story not only interesting but increasing its quality after 13 years, CURRENTLY BEING THE BEST, takes huge amount of time, believe it or not. About the "bad art": As some have pointed out, many people have simply no idea and misunderstand and confuse UNIQUE ART STYLE with "BAD/UGLY" You are in your right to not like and art style, but you are totally wrong got call it bad or ugly because you dont like it. If you wanna know what bad really refers to, refer to a good thread here on MAL about that, the indisputable king was TITE KUBO AND BLEACH. And further argues and corrects people like you that confuse unique art style with bad. |
9988Nov 29, 2012 8:16 PM
Nov 29, 2012 8:20 PM
#57
Here, for those those saying OP has "bad" or "ugly" so you uhnderstand what really should be understoof by BAD: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: bleach hands down look at that quality banas002 said: Ai Yori Aoshi I like the story but sometime the face and the body of the character really make me want to stop reading the manga and I don't think Fumizuki's art getting better at Umi ni Misaki GuZ said: Ookami-Kaze said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: bleach hands down look at that quality This made me laugh so hard. While bleach isn't horribly drawn, it is extremely simplistic compared to the other shonen. There is always so much going on in One Piece panals, where in Bleach they just zoom into whomever is talking and get a close up on their lips. Yeah, that's certainly true. Pages like this always makes me lol: meh better than this Bleach chapter 354 page 4 or how bout Hunter x Hunter Togashi´s BAD: WhichOneIsKirk said: Not enough HxH in this thread. Thread: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=405937&show=0 |
LunaNov 29, 2012 11:40 PM
Nov 29, 2012 8:24 PM
#58
As much as I love One Piece, I would much rather it go on hiatus and give Oda a month or two or three off than for him to suffer from over work. We have seen what happens to mangaka that overwork in several series. Saiko worked so much on drawing that he ended up in the hospital. Min Geun Soo in went blind from lack of sleep while drawing his manhwa in Can't See Can't Hear But Love. |
Nov 29, 2012 8:25 PM
#59
JavierR said: IntroverTurtle said: I would be so damn sad if he dies, and especially if he dies before finishing One Piece. DO NOT SAY THAT. PLEASE. My life would be incomplete your life will be just fine. and if it is his time, it is his time. still though....that is a lot of work for just drawing manga. even so, i suspect he does take lunch breaks and such.... |
Nov 29, 2012 8:26 PM
#60
One Piece is far from being "bad art". It's just not an kind of art that may be liked by everyone. I, for one, don't like it. The panels are totally saturated, I get bored of just trying to identify everything in them, and there are a lot of useess drawing making it even more saturated. BUT, that doesn't mean the art it's bad. It's just a pretty specific style that I'm sure a lot of people like, science it shows just how meticulous it can be and OP fans may love all the details in there. Aaaaand, of course, there's the people that mistakes character designs for art quality. I hate One Piece art, and think of it as ugly, plain and simple. But if there's something i can't deny in it, it's the ammunt of work required and it's quality. |
Nov 29, 2012 8:27 PM
#61
9988 said: Here, for those those saying OP has "bad" or "ugly" so you uhnderstand what really should be understoof by BAD: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: bleach hands down look at that quality banas002 said: Ai Yori Aoshi I like the story but sometime the face and the body of the character really make me want to stop reading the manga and I don't think Fumizuki's art getting better at Umi ni Misaki GuZ said: Ookami-Kaze said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: bleach hands down look at that quality This made me laugh so hard. While bleach isn't horribly drawn, it is extremely simplistic compared to the other shonen. There is always so much going on in One Piece panals, where in Bleach they just zoom into whomever is talking and get a close up on their lips. Yeah, that's certainly true. Pages like this always makes me lol: meh better than this Bleach chapter 354 page 4 or how bout Hunter x Hunter Togashi´s BAD: WhichOneIsKirk said: Not enough HxH in this thread. Thread: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=405937&show=0 DUDE , you went in LOL ,and this art is from the skypiea arc , the water 7 /enines lobby art is just like it was drawn in a month or something by how much details were put into and i don't think people need to compare One Piece art to hxh since it would utterly destroy the garbage art togashi puts out in 1 FUCKING YEAR. |
LunaNov 29, 2012 11:39 PM
Nov 29, 2012 8:46 PM
#62
I love you Oda! :) But I hope he'll be healthy all his life! :) |
Nov 29, 2012 8:52 PM
#63
Lol, I read the title as "2am to 5am," and I was like, "hey, that ain't half bad!" |
Nov 29, 2012 8:58 PM
#64
If I remember right, Oda was talking about how he takes every 4th week off to spend with his family. When it comes to work, this man works. When it comes to taking a break, he takes a break. |
Nov 29, 2012 9:13 PM
#65
Homestuck said: I'm fine with people being rude to a hard working man in this thread. He can't hear you over his wads of money and smoking hot wife anyways. All of this. Dude makes something like 22 million a year and though I haven't seen his wife, I bet she's hot. So, y'know, while all you haters sit there and bitch about the guy's art quality, realize that he's created a modern classic manga that's known all over the world, has the SINGLE MOST POPULAR ANIME IN JAPAN, makes a shit ton of money and your post counts on the internet are probably your most important contributions to this world. And, before anyone says anything as a response to say "Oda's fans are dickriding/defending him"? I fucking hate One Piece. But I respect what this man has done. You should too. |
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Nov 29, 2012 9:17 PM
#66
So, what's the point of the news? I only know from it that he's working too long. |
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Nov 29, 2012 9:19 PM
#67
tsubasalover said: Obviously a lot of other people didn't know.So, what's the point of the news. I know that he's working too long. |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Nov 29, 2012 9:24 PM
#68
ZoroShiSon: People have no right to judge anything now? Fandom these days. |
Nov 29, 2012 9:33 PM
#69
Orix said: ZoroShiSon: People have no right to judge anything now? Fandom these days. I would think people would be wise enough to realize that it is incredibly foolish to judge something before you even watch it. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Nov 29, 2012 9:58 PM
#72
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the hard working mangaka in Japan have a similar sleeping pattern. Oda probably isn't the only one. Same with comic book artists all over the world. Weekly deadlines and all. That being said, Oda needs more sleep. Damn. |
Nov 29, 2012 10:02 PM
#73
Avoiding everything else for work - Typical Japanese working man. This is one of the reasons why the birthrate in Japan is falling. |
Nov 29, 2012 10:33 PM
#75
-Envy- said: Sasuga Oda-Sensei. |
Nov 29, 2012 10:35 PM
#76
I see... Admirable Oda! If I needed a new reason to respect him, certainly, this would be it! |
Nov 29, 2012 10:45 PM
#77
darkmac said: How does he work so much and still have such bad art? The first comment of the thread, and I see this? Someone beat me to it, but look at this. DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: bleach hands down Do you think the art is a "bad art" now? Everyone have their own opinion, but one cannot say "bad art", just say you dislike it, you dont have to insult it. Sure, it looks cartoon-ish, and the quality aint that good at the beginning but compare the art from Chapter 1 to 500+ chapters. This is the art quality in the beginning. Color spread at Chapter 604. If you still cant tell the difference of the quality, then... you need glasses. I hope the best of wises to Oda-sensei, hope you're healthy and well + you need some sleep! PS: Sorry, if something gets spoiled from the color pages. |
LunaNov 29, 2012 11:38 PM
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Nov 29, 2012 10:47 PM
#78
Nov 29, 2012 10:49 PM
#79
Lulexiaa said: HE NEEDS A BREAK T^T I wonder if he can still say he still has fun doing his job T___T he took (deserved) break more often than any other mangaka in WSJ well not including HXH mangaka though LOL |
Nov 29, 2012 10:52 PM
#80
He needs some sleep, seriously. |
Nov 29, 2012 10:53 PM
#81
If suddenly appreciate sleep a lot more. |
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Nov 29, 2012 10:54 PM
#82
That is good work ethic i could admire |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Nov 29, 2012 11:06 PM
#83
I don't believe this. |
Nov 29, 2012 11:13 PM
#84
Yeah, definitely a habit of true professional mangaka. |
Nov 29, 2012 11:14 PM
#85
He should really get some well deserved sleep. It would be disappointing if the series suddenly ends with the Strawhats in the middle of New World. |
Nov 29, 2012 11:24 PM
#86
people need to stop focusing on the negative comments too much, it is a horrible sight... if there is 1 comment out of hundred saying one piece suck whilst everyone else is saying it is great, all 99 need to justify it.... it is obvious that oda has the best art there is, that one dimwit don't have to be convinced as long as you are aware of it...just my humble opinion reading this thread, and I admire every mangaka out there for being that awesome, and i know mangas are totally worth their price |
Nov 29, 2012 11:27 PM
#88
Well better stop complaining than... The only reason I kind of believe this post is because I have read Bakuman hahaha. |
Nov 29, 2012 11:36 PM
#89
Nov 29, 2012 11:40 PM
#90
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Seriously. How can people believe such garbage. Its impossible for this to be true. I'm taking into consideration his art quality,characterisation,plot detail etc Doesn't that explain more? He invests more time in improving those thus getting less sleep. |
Nov 29, 2012 11:48 PM
#91
That's dedication. As an aspiring creative writer, I admire that and I hope I have as much passion for my works as he does. Still, that's a little excessive. One Piece chapters do seem to have the most content especially if you compare it to Bleach but I didn't think he had to put that much work into it. Hope he doesn't get sick. |
"There is someone that I must meet again. And until that day... not even Death himself can take my life away!" |
Nov 29, 2012 11:52 PM
#92
HauntingShock said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Seriously. How can people believe such garbage. Its impossible for this to be true. I'm taking into consideration his art quality,characterisation,plot detail etc Doesn't that explain more? He invests more time in improving those thus getting less sleep. No. If he really did get as little sleep as stated, his story especially, would have long ago started forming holes |
Nov 29, 2012 11:55 PM
#93
Wow he works that hard? I would need 1000 breaks if I was him. And he's been doing that for a long time? I hope this won't effect his health, the guy needs to rest some more. |
As it turns out, living was a punishment... |
Nov 29, 2012 11:56 PM
#94
He's been working at home so this is his typical day. Or rather any mangaka with a family and a smoking hot wife. 5am > wakes up. eats breakfast with family 7am > watch morning show with waifu 11am > tells waifu what he wants for lunch 12nn > eats lunch with waifu 1pm > watch korean drama shows with waifu 2pm > afternoon "nap" with waifu ehehehe 4pm > buy snacks at nearest conbini 4:30pm > go to nearest park to find inspiration 5pm > draw 15 pages worth of borders and frames 6pm > welcums the kids / tells waifu what he wants for dinner 7pm > eat dinner with family 8pm > watch baseball with son 9pm> complain to waifu because waifu changed the channel to watch her daily korean drama 10pm > watch baseball highlights alone 11pm > draw 15 pages worth of manga 12mn > watch late night anime 2am > "sleep" with waifu That's it. |
Nov 30, 2012 12:02 AM
#95
Minene-sama said: Wow he works that hard? I would need 1000 breaks if I was him. And he's been doing that for a long time? I hope this won't effect his health, the guy needs to rest some more. After a few months there would have already been effects against his health. bippo said: He's been working at home so this is his typical day. Or rather any mangaka with a family and a smoking hot wife. 5am > wakes up. eats breakfast with family 7am > watch morning show with waifu 11am > tells waifu what he wants for lunch 12nn > eats lunch with waifu 1pm > watch korean drama shows with waifu 2pm > afternoon "nap" with waifu ehehehe 4pm > buy snacks at nearest conbini 4:30pm > go to nearest park to find inspiration 5pm > draw 15 pages worth of borders and frames 6pm > welcums the kids / tells waifu what he wants for dinner 7pm > eat dinner with family 8pm > watch baseball with son 9pm> complain to waifu because waifu changed the channel to watch her daily korean drama 10pm > watch baseball highlights alone 11pm > draw 15 pages worth of manga 12mn > watch late night anime 2am > "sleep" with waifu That's it. Extreme exaggeration, but more close to the truth than anything else. |
Nov 30, 2012 12:04 AM
#96
It's normal for mangakas I guess. Takehiko Inoue already said that when he was publishing Slam Dunk, there were times when he only got one or two hours of sleep. |
Nov 30, 2012 12:09 AM
#97
Being a mangaka isn't an easy job, look at the people in bakuman |
Nov 30, 2012 12:12 AM
#98
Jesus........ Well I hope he gets a day off or something, that isn't healthy for you at all D: |
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Nov 30, 2012 12:13 AM
#99
5am to 2am? So wait, he only gets... 3 hours of sleep at night, if he does sleep?? Man, I don't follow the manga or anime, but if someone doesn't sleep for 3 days straight, they tend to go kind of insane. So has anyone ever seen some OP work that seems.. kinda off? O.O |
Nov 30, 2012 12:15 AM
#100
edwd2 said: Being a mangaka isn't an easy job, look at the people in bakuman Chinese cartoon =/= Documentary |
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