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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Balsa's past is really interesting. It was neat to see Jiguro and the younger versions of Balsa and Tanda. And it was awesome that we got to see a really cool spear battle. Cant wait to see the rest of the story. |
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| Yeah, great stuff. That scene where Balsa displayed her abilities near the fire for the first time was great. I too can wait to see the end of the story, and what will happen to Chagum on the next episode. |
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| Great Episode. Balsa's past was way more interesting that i had thought. Combat scenes really rocked and like said earlier the Balsa's fire show was amazing. And then in the final battle... Episode ends... Arghhh we do suffer! |
| Ugh...Cliffhanger >_< It was indeed awesome to see some spear fight. Pretty good ep, cant wait for the next one! |
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| Good ep. Great fight scenes too. I really wish Balsa was teaching Chagum how to fight. :( |
| Gaah,, Young Balsa was uberkawaii.... Great episode! |
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| I'd rather watch an anime about Jiguro and Balsa. :3 |
| Jiguro is Great!! so is Balsa!! This is so interesting :) |
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| Jiguro is gangsta as hell man, no wonder Balsa is so strong. I enjoyed this episode as much as an episode can be enjoyed. |
| Fabulous episode, the early parts were really sad. Faust721 said: It really was. The whole 'Guardian' theme can be applied to the entire anime including the past and future rather than just to Balsa protecting Chagum. Very solid episode.It was neat to see Jiguro and the younger versions of Balsa and Tanda. |
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| Great episode. I'm surprised that a series that I picked up looking for some action has held me glued to the set with not much action at all. I guess a great story will do that to you. I'm kinda curious, if Balsa's father was such great friend of the King's #1 spear, why did he not just tell Jiguro about the plot to kill the king instead of going along with it? |
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| Best episode of the series till now :-O |
| Jiguro pwn! |
| This is a very interesting arc, love finding out about Balsa's past, second episode should be even more revealing. |
Plate said: That'd make a great prequel series or OVA.I'd rather watch an anime about Jiguro and Balsa. :3 Yeah, young Balsa sure was kawaii, but teen Balsa was fucking Cute. |
| Jiguro is THE MAN!! |
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| Even better than I expected it to be. Finally, we get to see Balsa and Jiguro's past. I've been looking forward to seeing it since the third episode. |
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| Same here... I've been curious about her past ever since the child!Balsa stepped into view in Episode 3. Well, I guess I was curious before then, but the flashback was what pushed that question into my head as what I wanted to know the most in this series. And they finally answered it! Awesome. Jiguro is one of the coolest anime characters I've seen! His fighting skills are only paralleled by Balsa's current abilities. And it's so sad... he throws away his life essentially - gives up his position as one of the top warriors of Kanbal, takes in a child who is not his own... and not just any child, the child of his friend who POISONED THEIR KING. I don't understand Balsa's dad at all... yes the bad guy was threatening to kill his daughter if he didn't follow through, but why didn't he ask Jiguro to protect her and tell the king of the plot BEFORE killing him. If Jiguro could protect her from the other 8 spears, surely he could have protected her from the common soldiers and assassins that the king's brother would have been able to command. Fool. He knew that their lives were forfeit even if he followed through, so he had nothing to lose. Balsa's fireside demonstration was rather impressive, but she should have known better than to make light of Jiguro killing his best friend. Funny how much that scene paralleled her bit with Chagum acting out. Even the slap was the same. And I think she was right - she said that part of it might have been her way of trying to get a rise out of Jiguro and forcing him to react to her for once and Chagum looked really shocked. Seemed to me like she was also saying that Chagum probably had the same reasons for his escape attempt. Oh well, at least it make Jiguro stop being so sexist and start training her. Women's musculature may not bulk up in the same way a male's will, but there's no denying that skill is a tremendous part of battle. Balsa's agility and talent more than made up for any lack of strength. Have to mention that tiny Balsa and Tanda were downright adorable. ^_^ Sooooooo cute. I can't wait to go watch the next ep and hear the rest of her story... I wonder, did Balsa ever get her revenge? Because it seems like she kept killing for another decade or so after this episode's conclusion based on earlier conversations in the series. Someone needed to kill that tyrant because of the horrible things he'd done and would continue to do. |
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| Great great episode, the fight scenes are amazing in this show :D On to the next! |
| Good episode, but I have to say the the logic of what some people did in the past makes little sense. The dad had a much better chance at saving his and his daughter's life by not actually going through with the plot. And does Rogsam really need to waste the talents of his greatest warriors for 6+ years to track down some girl and deserter that just want to live their lives? |
LordWolfeye said: And does Rogsam really need to waste the talents of his greatest warriors for 6+ years to track down some girl and deserter that just want to live their lives? Plenty of real life leaders/kings have done needlessly stupid shit simply because they could. |
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Fionartan said: Funny how much that scene paralleled her bit with Chagum acting out. Even the slap was the same. And I think she was right - she said that part of it might have been her way of trying to get a rise out of Jiguro and forcing him to react to her for once and Chagum looked really shocked. Seemed to me like she was also saying that Chagum probably had the same reasons for his escape attempt. Yeah, he immediatly touched his cheek where Balsa slapped him ^^ got to love even the smallest details in this show |
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| lol the oldlady had more of those thing in her hat than she does now >.< Sent with Mal Updater |
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| Another sad episode. How Jiguro saved Balsa from the 2 soldiers and the 1st assassin. The battle between the 2nd assassin was amazing considering the how it's hard for him to fight his closest friends. Torogai's pet hehe |
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| Everyone else has stolen all there is to say, pretty much, haha. Yes, excellent episode; yes, it was awesome to see Balsa's past and to see it given an episode and not being rushed through; and yes, it was great to see more fabulous animation and fighting scenes. Loved the episode and look forward to watching more! |
| I need to rewatch episode 3 and 4 now... This reminds me a lot of Kenshin and Hiko Seijuro. |
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SixFlags said: Fionartan said: Funny how much that scene paralleled her bit with Chagum acting out. Even the slap was the same. And I think she was right - she said that part of it might have been her way of trying to get a rise out of Jiguro and forcing him to react to her for once and Chagum looked really shocked. Seemed to me like she was also saying that Chagum probably had the same reasons for his escape attempt. Yeah, he immediatly touched his cheek where Balsa slapped him ^^ got to love even the smallest details in this show Lol yes. Oh, btw the performance scene where Balsa let go of her stick and spun around only to deliver the final blow stuck in my mind so hard. And one more thing, it's so fun seeing the classic Japanese setting for the anime crashing with the more medieval western setting Kanbal has. Stone houses, doors with knobs? Lol. |
fianeNov 5, 2010 1:43 AM
| Great episode! Balsa as a kid was kawaii~ except the voice :P Jiguro is awesome and we finally get to see the spear battle we saw in the episode 3! Just magnificent! So...next episode Balsa finally trains Chagum?? :O |
| I like the fact the flashback was used only when the end approaches. Much more memorable and impactful not to mention this was an excellent flashback. |
| FINALLY we get to see Balsa's past and Jiguro's as well. Very good stuff |
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| Jiguro is a very strong, powerful, yet believable character. Little Balsa is so cute. |
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| Greatest love story ever told Na but this was a great episode with and little Balsa looks kinda cute. Jiguro is a boss the way he handled that duel even though he won without even trying lol.. Nice episode and never thought I'd enjoy watching flashbacks so much. 5/5. |
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| finally, I've been waiting to hear this story.. the story of balsa and jiguro. the story is very sad and touching :'( |
SixFlags said: Fionartan said: Funny how much that scene paralleled her bit with Chagum acting out. Even the slap was the same. And I think she was right - she said that part of it might have been her way of trying to get a rise out of Jiguro and forcing him to react to her for once and Chagum looked really shocked. Seemed to me like she was also saying that Chagum probably had the same reasons for his escape attempt. Yeah, he immediatly touched his cheek where Balsa slapped him ^^ got to love even the smallest details in this show There's so much parallel between her past and the current situation with Chagum :D Love it. However, I gotta say, Balsa'a a more talkative parent than Jiguro was. I'm guessing the 8 lives Balsa took aren't really anyone she killed, but the ones Jiguro killed to save her? Or I could be wrong and it's just a coincidence. I mean if that were true, then it could be an explanation as to why Balsa thought she killed that guy when she didn't. |
| The way Balsa and Chagum are held up in the cave watching the snow fall outside as she tells the story of her life just seemed to add to the cold and empty feeling about all of it. Balsa's past is probably my favorite part of this series, just absolutely stunning spear dancing through and through + the emotions. |
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| I wonder if Balsa has returned to Kanbal since this incident . . . Also, wasn't each of the 9 spears (or whatever they were called) families being held hostage? I thought that was what the blacksmith said but it wouldn't make sense with what Jiguro was yelling at them, that fighting was futile. |
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| let me guess Balsa was/is atoning for her step father Jiguro's killings, that he had to kill hes friends for her Kings Brother Ordered Basla's father to Poison King, i in hes place would have Poisoned that King's brother, it makes no different's cause i die anyway, at least this way i take bad guy who ordered me to do bad with me, but if lucky King mite not kill me, either way at least there wont be any1 anymore who would send people after my daughter, so killing the Kings brother that bastard would have been smarter choice in so meany ways seems i was 98% right about the connection between That Black-Smith story & Balsa |
Sugram22Aug 17, 2014 4:21 AM
Fionartan said: Same here... I've been curious about her past ever since the child!Balsa stepped into view in Episode 3. Well, I guess I was curious before then, but the flashback was what pushed that question into my head as what I wanted to know the most in this series. And they finally answered it! Awesome. Jiguro is one of the coolest anime characters I've seen! His fighting skills are only paralleled by Balsa's current abilities. And it's so sad... he throws away his life essentially - gives up his position as one of the top warriors of Kanbal, takes in a child who is not his own... and not just any child, the child of his friend who POISONED THEIR KING. I don't understand Balsa's dad at all... yes the bad guy was threatening to kill his daughter if he didn't follow through, but why didn't he ask Jiguro to protect her and tell the king of the plot BEFORE killing him. If Jiguro could protect her from the other 8 spears, surely he could have protected her from the common soldiers and assassins that the king's brother would have been able to command. Fool. He knew that their lives were forfeit even if he followed through, so he had nothing to lose. Balsa's fireside demonstration was rather impressive, but she should have known better than to make light of Jiguro killing his best friend. Funny how much that scene paralleled her bit with Chagum acting out. Even the slap was the same. And I think she was right - she said that part of it might have been her way of trying to get a rise out of Jiguro and forcing him to react to her for once and Chagum looked really shocked. Seemed to me like she was also saying that Chagum probably had the same reasons for his escape attempt. Oh well, at least it make Jiguro stop being so sexist and start training her. Women's musculature may not bulk up in the same way a male's will, but there's no denying that skill is a tremendous part of battle. Balsa's agility and talent more than made up for any lack of strength. Have to mention that tiny Balsa and Tanda were downright adorable. ^_^ Sooooooo cute. I can't wait to go watch the next ep and hear the rest of her story... I wonder, did Balsa ever get her revenge? Because it seems like she kept killing for another decade or so after this episode's conclusion based on earlier conversations in the series. Someone needed to kill that tyrant because of the horrible things he'd done and would continue to do. would king believe that hes own brother would do something like this, specially with out proof, if he did not tell the king it was cause he had no proof |
| Great episode, kid Balsa is adorable. And i like it how this anime or Jiguro keep it real about the "women's musculature may not bulk up in the same way a males", of course there are excepcions but thats how things really are, but of course Balsa talent and skill overcome all of that and she is the bad ass we have know. I bet after this, Balsa will teach him hot to fight too. |
ViriathusOct 3, 2014 6:15 PM
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| Amazing episode, my new favorite. Those fights were choreographed so well and animated incredibly. Loved learning about Balsa's past. |
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| Great backstory episode |
| Wow. I was skeptical at first, but this episode proved to be awesome. Balsa's past is pretty tragic. I got teary eyed when I saw her crying when she learned her father died. That fight scene with Jiguro and his friend was badass and seeing Jiguro cry over his corpse was heartbreaking. Looks like Jiguro is going to die against the six remaining hunters. Poor Balsa... ; __ ; Logsam is a whole new level of evil. Forcing Jiguro to kill all his friends just to protect Balsa. Jesus Christ this anime is getting really dark... Awesome episode. 9/10 |
Plate said: I'd rather watch an anime about Jiguro and Balsa. :3 You know, I agree with you on that. Much more interesting. |
| I find it odd that the Doc still continued to poison the King even though he knew they were gonna kill him and go after his daughter regardless if he obeyed them... |
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