Takopii no Genzai Episode 6 Discussion

@traed You're completely right. Now that I've calmed down a bit, I can see the logic behind them resonating with each other.

However, given the level of their animosity, I find the logic hard to buy still. We're talking about murder/suicide level of issue here. Going from "I don't want to live on the same planet as you" to "we're best friend" would take a lot more than seeing eye to eye. It would take ridiculous effort from both sides to patch things up.

I guess I just find "being friends" too far of a reach here. It's like cutting to the goal when they've just arrived at the starting point.

To the people that think everything is fixed by magic. Go to the post credit scene. Marina still has her scar.

"your family or feelings will never come back, your mother will not accept you, your papa is not just your papa anymore. But I hope that you, you and you, NONE of you will be alone anymore".

Not single problem were solved, but they are not alone anymore is the ending. I don't know why people has the impression that magic fix everything when the entirety of the anime has been telling us that magic is useless. The characters find salvation in themselves. There's no magic.

Also for the people that thought "they became best friend after the doodle thing". Here's my quote from other thread:

"Seeing the drawing doesn't magically stop Marina from bullying Shizuka. All it does is making them stop momentarily to talk about a "useless" octopus. Marina is incapable of having a conversation and Shizuka simply accept all the suffering without saying anything (nothing will change according to her). So all the drawing does is giving them one small breathing room. Whatever happens after is off-screen and up to the viewers.

So the answer to the "why did the drawing stop Marina from bullying Shizuka" is it didn't, it simply gave them a chance to stop at each other throat. We don't know how or even when the bullying stop, it's up to you to fill the gap. Would you like it to be spelled out? well that's a different question all together."

Feel free to pick that apart.

It did though, you basically just said that here - "it didn't but it did"

It was the catalyst for the plot to move forward in that direction and some people (including myself) simply didn't find that to be to satisfying/ intelligent writing, for me it was very much reminiscent of lazy "and then" story telling.

If you were ok with it that is fine and I am happy that you enjoyed it, but other people can feel differently about it while still understanding the plot.

Looks like the author realized he wrote himself into a corner with the broken camera timeline so he gave Takopii a weirdly specific ability to repair and use a gadget by sacrificing himself.. And somehow 2016 Marina remembers Takopii even though she had only met him in the future? And then that nonsensical chain of events cause Marina to stop being a bully and become best buds with Shizuka?

Wasn't Takopii losing the ability to time travel the main hook of the story? The writing got so sloppy these last 2 episodes, I would've given this an 8-9/10 had it ended well but I'm gonna have to bump that down to a 7/10.

It's not really hard to understand really, majority of this anime's fans are teenagers and it's well known that most teens love dark and edgy stuff that pretends to be deep. Same as power fantasies, it's no great surprise that most fans of Solo Leveling are teens as well.

The anime is not that bad to deserve 1 as you have rated it though.

@aurora_yuuki i was on bus going to chittagong

before starting it, my prejudice was that, it would be one of those shows that are excessively dark just for the sake of it. Well it is but with so good execution that it doesn't matter anymore.

I'll give it a 9/10 as well.

That ending was such an ass pull they had no idea how to end the show disappointing, but a great show regardless.

My god, six episodes in and Takopii is still the same annoying mess he was at the start. He finally got his memories back last episode, and yet he's still going around saying things like, "DoN't YoU WaNna SeE ShIzUkA HaPPy?" Like seriously? Please for the lvoe of god, FUCKING STOP. At least Azuma showed some actual development. Meanwhile, Takopii hasn’t changed a bit, still clinging to this version of Shizuka that barely even feels like Shizuka anymore.

But ofc, since it’s the final episode and we have to force a happy ending, we somehow manage to change the mind of a literal murderer in under three minutes, because that totally makes sense. And then we reset the timeline, effectively making everything that happened completely pointless. What a joke. Oh, and somehow Marina and Shizuka magically remember Takopii after all that, just conveniently enough to give us a feel-good bonding moment at the end.

God, the show was already awful, but this ending honestly rivals disasters like Darling in the FranXX, truly. And the similarities are hard to ignore, both are carried almost entirely by their animation, with everything else falling apart. That said, I’m still genuinely curious to see where the studio goes from here. ENISHIYA is easily one of the most interesting new companies to emerge this decade. I just hope their next project actually lives up to their potential instead of being another frustrating waste of talent.

U can just tell who actually paid attention to the anime & the ending cuz genuinely how do u not understand the ending.

anyways 10/10 anime, anime of the year.

@Richard_drizzle Is it really an asspull when its using a long established mechanic throughout the story at a significant cost of the main character dying?

That time skip was SO NECESSARY
The only thing i hate about this ending is its lenght, worst part of a good show is that it ends
Takopi matured, learned, his help stopped being superficial and instead of erasing the problems the children overcame them.

my only wish now is to get this show over the 9/10 mark, currently at 8.96 lets go guys 😅

the build up from episode 1 up to episode 4 and maybe 5 was great. However this final episode did not impress me. It did not conclude the story in a convincing way and left many questions unanswered. I particularly dislike the fact that it did not address the reason why Marina and Shizuka did not go get along that is bad parenting. I am not convinced that Takopi's death was the solution because just like it was shown throughout the show, he was not the cause for their negative feelings. This was rushed. There should have been more episodes maybe showing the redemption of their parents. Anyways, it is a good show 8/10, mostly for the good production and because, episodes 1-4 did a good job setting up the characters.

On other media forums, Takopi already reached a 9.3 rating, but here it's dropping even more.
Turns out others were right — there are a lot of toxic bullies on MyAnimeList, many of them deliberately lowering the rating so their favorite anime doesn’t get pushed out of the top 10.

On other media forums, Takopi already reached a 9.3 rating, but here it's dropping even more.
Turns out others were right — there are a lot of toxic bullies on MyAnimeList, many of them deliberately lowering the rating so their favorite anime doesn’t get pushed out of the top 10.

Ok.. so we get some deus ex machina "happy ending" where their lifes are still shit, but they survive by supporting each other.

Amd they achieve it by takopi planting some memorys into their minds.
How did he even do that?
Just because?

Sorry, but this may be the single handly most overhyped anime in existance and im not joking.

What was so good about this hot mess with an annoying pink alien?

The ending was the worst thing about the show btw..
In the end it was all "solved" by deus ex machina magic.

And btw: shizuka abducted her step siblings, but didnt do anything with them? Why?
Just because the author wanted to redeem her?

Didnt she want to cut them open? Why didnt she do it?
Bad writing at its best...

Ah and how did takopi get back to where it started?
How did shizuka look exactly the same, after nearly 1 year? What did she do allone all that time?

So many plot wholes. I have no idea how this can be so hyped

@JoeChip
At the very least, with the story and message it delivers, this anime deserves a higher rating and a place among the top 10 highest-rated anime on MyAnimeList.
Are you trying to prevent that from happening, rather than supporting it?