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Oct 29, 7:17 PM
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i watch anime for sexy women and unrealistic body types.
So no, having more normal body types for female characters wouldn't be nice, it would result in something like cartoons which i despise.

@tchitchouan Depends on the tone, setting, etc of a show. Big titties flopping everywhere in a show meant for tons of fanservice, skin, and sexy situations. Heck yeah. In a show set in a more serious setting/genre? Probably/probably not.
Oct 29, 7:22 PM

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@LittleOwlbear The character designs before MAPPA took over was good and they ruined that. Literally nobody looks attractive anymore.
@LeonhartAugust They made them more realistic. I remember how some people were on the verge of mental breakdown after seeing Mikasa "less attractive". She still looked attractive, just with more realistic design, fitting her life and profession. If anything, her design from Season 1-2 was the dumbest one. No one will convince me that a soldier in field conditions, exhausted for most of the time, wearing a lipstick on every occassion while wandering for days in a land infested by human-eating giants, where every minute of losing focus can be lethal, was just realistic and normal looking.

She could look relatively attractive inside the Walls, but choosing to make her look as if she came outta a beauty salon outside of the Walls, while on a mission and in field conditions, wasn't a fortunate design choice, in my opinion. Finding balance between realism and fanservice-flavored elements in Mikasa's design, considering serious themes found in Attack on Titan and grounded it was for most of the time, was better in Season 3 and reached its peak in Season 4 (so the final season, which was made by MAPPA).
Oct 29, 7:22 PM
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A creator should not have to censor for anyone nor any anime studio. Mostly all shoujo already follow those standards for limiting the ecchi. If the author wants TnA nobody should stop him. It is silly to limit fiction in such a manor. Nobody is asking for shoujo to have more accurate average short men or less bishounens. That aside, most shounen/seinen anime has a huge variety of waifus in them with breasts and bodies of all sizes. I think it would suck to limit that variety.

Oda has already spoken on why he continues making ecchi in the series. The primary demographic remains boys, and that explanation is perfectly ok.
Not all demographics have to like the same things.
@rohan121 Exactly agree with Oda. I was just always one of the boys who didn't gravitate to big boobied girls. Sexy girls are hot and fun, but not my thing at the end of the day and why I preferred Nami's original look from back in the day.
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I guess, but then it would be....well, more normal. Why does anime have to be more normal? Realistic is necessarily better.
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@LeonhartAugust They made them more realistic. I remember how some people were on the verge of mental breakdown after seeing Mikasa "less attractive". She still looked attractive, just with more realistic design, fitting her life and profession. If anything, her design from Season 1-2 was the dumbest one. No one will convince me that a soldier in field conditions, exhausted for most of the time, wearing a lipstick on every occassion while wandering for days in a land infested by human-eating giants, where every minute of losing focus can be lethal, was just realistic and normal looking.

She could look relatively attractive inside the Walls, but choosing to make her look as if she came outta a beauty salon outside of the Walls, while on a mission and in field conditions, wasn't a fortunate design choice, in my opinion. Finding balance between realism and fanservice-flavored elements in Mikasa's design, considering serious themes found in Attack on Titan and grounded it was for most of the time, was better in Season 3 and reached its peak in Season 4 (so the final season, which was made by MAPPA).
@Adnash I don’t care if it’s unrealistic. I want to see attractive characters in fiction, both male and female. If I wanted realistic looking, I can go outside.
Oct 29, 7:42 PM

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@Adnash I don’t care if it’s unrealistic. I want to see attractive characters in fiction, both male and female. If I wanted realistic looking, I can go outside.
@LeonhartAugust Right, but immersion also matters. You don't expect a chibi series to look realistic, or supernatural comedy action series not having a lot of comedy and action. Same here: if you want to watch a show with attractive characters, but pick up a show with more serious and grounded premise, then it's hard to expect that said show will bend to your or anyone else's expectations. :P
Oct 29, 7:48 PM

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@rohan121 Exactly agree with Oda. I was just always one of the boys who didn't gravitate to big boobied girls. Sexy girls are hot and fun, but not my thing at the end of the day and why I preferred Nami's original look from back in the day.
@fallout45 I also prefer pre-timeskip Nami. She was still objectively pretty, but felt more charming. Short-haired Nami didn't need to have her character design go over the top in terms of physique. Her cool personality didn't need such elements to remain cool and likeable.

I get the reasoning behind more "busty" female characters appearing in One Piece over time, and how they fit the general art style (mostly hourglass-shaped body canon). However, I found the old designs more charming. Not that the new ones are bad. They are okay. I just prefer pre-timeskip ones. ;)
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like i get your point i also dont like girls with too big boobs but i think too small either is not too attractive and also the girls with big boobs give you certain marketing benifits but i think there are too many animes with perfect girls like oshi no ko is one with the most normal girls like not too flat nor to big breasts. Also the matter of fact that many girls have normal breasts in anime but like the authors depict it like they are too big and not the animators.
Like there is one anime called 'Higehiro' in that anime there is that one woman 'Airi Gotou' whom the protagonist loved. It was said that she is I-cup but they were not that big like it was definitely bigger than normal but they didnt look bad and definitely not I-cup.
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My 2 cents, not really. What is the point of normalcy in anime? Its fantasy. The question is, and always will be, is it interesting? Now you might say, super curvy girls with giant boobs are not interesting for me, and to that I say, sure thing! But equally there is nothing interesting about a "normal body type".

So if I were to ask for a change I would ask for less normalcy, but not necessarily "even more sexier designs" although that could be part of it, more like designs I haven't seen before. For example, I think there is a severe lack of grandmas in anime :) I would really like some more grandmas that play a major role, like genkai from YuYu Hakusho for example but ideally they would be a main character. Muscle ladies are also cool and I would like to see more. Or shortstacks.
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@fallout45 I also prefer pre-timeskip Nami. She was still objectively pretty, but felt more charming. Short-haired Nami didn't need to have her character design go over the top in terms of physique. Her cool personality didn't need such elements to remain cool and likeable.

I get the reasoning behind more "busty" female characters appearing in One Piece over time, and how they fit the general art style (mostly hourglass-shaped body canon). However, I found the old designs more charming. Not that the new ones are bad. They are okay. I just prefer pre-timeskip ones. ;)
@Adnash I played one piece TCG when I first encountered post time skip Nami and all I could think about is how her back looks like the pains will be insufferable, her pre-timeskip design is better and prettier in my opinion
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I agree with the body proportions. I also dislike huge out of proportion boobs. But at least let them keep the sexy clothing.
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No, absurd and unrealistic character designs is one of the things that make anime so much fun. It'd be crazy to imagine DxD without overly sexualized women, and I'd be crazy to imagine JoJo's without overly buff men. Its fiction, who cares if its realistic?

It's not the anime industry's job to set a realistic body standard, it's their job to make entertainment. If you're so disillusioned that you can't tell realty from fiction, thats your problem.
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Yeah, it's basically the same three body types all the time. More variety would be much appreciated. I wasn't as into "Delicious in Dungeon" as I could've been, but that was an aspect I appreciated about that series.
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I could see someone who joined MAL 3 weeks ago with 2.5 days watched making this topic sincerely, but you've been here since 2011 with 130 days watched, so I think you're just trolling, because nobody could be that blind or stupid.
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it would be cool honestly but i dont see a real issue to be honest with the unrealistic female body types, its fantasy and ovi not fake so its cool to see. however, i think it would be nice for a change.
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I like variety but I also think part of variety is to not over do it where it is in every show because then it's all the same. Also you will see different designs in different genres and target demographics from different character designers.

"normal body types"
All body types are normal body types unless severe extremes that would fall into medical condition like gigantomastia and morbid obesity. Averages do not represent the full range.

"at least average sized boobs"
Who's average? Averages are not realistic if everyone is the same.

"Dressed appropriately"
According to who? Their clothing represents the standards of the setting or intentionally goes against it in order to either criticize it or make a joke of the character being oblivious.

"Are huge boobs, lots of curves and skin, and skimpy clothes always necessary?"
You must not watch much anime or read a lot of manga variety outside fantasy based action shounen


As for increasing breast size in long running shounen it is done a lot of time to show time has passed and the characters are older without having to alter their facial appearance.
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Yeah, it's basically the same three body types all the time. More variety would be much appreciated. I wasn't as into "Delicious in Dungeon" as I could've been, but that was an aspect I appreciated about that series.
@bucciest OP is asking for less variety, not more.
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No, all sorts of body types is better than "normal". There's everything in anime already, so take your pick.

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fallout45 said:
Would it be nice having female characters with normal body types, or at least average sized boobs and dressed appropriately?


No, it's not. Because your 'dressed appropriately' could lead to characters wearing burkas or some ugly crap which suits modern delusions.

fallout45 said:
Especially in big mainstream series appealing to a male demographic. Are huge boobs, lots of curves and skin, and skimpy clothes always necessary?


Are you implying that 90% of anime are not unisex nowadays already when prudes are obsessed with downvoting ecchi anime to oblivion simply because it's ecchi.

fallout45 said:
For example they may be poorly developed as characters, but physically the women in a shows like Jujutsu Kaisen were designed modestly.


And? There is a clear link between 'modest look' of characters and their boringness. It was like that for Higashi no Eden and Tengoku Daimakyou for example.

fallout45 said:
Just started reading Kagurabachi and I really liked how Hiyuki Kagari was designed.


Checked that Hiyuki Kagari, looks like typical non-binary crap for mentally ill people. What is it, edgy female version of Lelouch? Discarded.

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A fully clothed woman feels more real and appealing rather than being blatently sexualized just because sex sells.


Tell that to real women which are not 'fully clothed', that they just try to sell out as you assume.
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Sure.

While we at it: Let's do normal physics and no supernatural powers, aswell.
Oh and no Slowmo or overly dramatic scenes - that's not naturally accuring in real Life.

Let's basically take everything that is fun and entertaining and get rid of it, for the sake of beeing "normal"
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I'm pretty sure there are plenty of anime that are like this already. Personally, I prefer characters to be aesthetically appealing but I don't mind if that is not the case in an anime.
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Would having more normal body types for female characters be nice?

TOTALLY !!! it brings something new and fresh on the table..im bored of seeing same kind of body type..it makes the media more diverse and hence a lot more fun !!! women come in many shapes and sizes and it would be so amazing to explore them all..

oremonogatari male lead body type is something new in anime and i loved that
@ame I've always found it intriguing how women complain about the sexualization of female characters in male media, while men complain about the sexualization of men in female media. At the same time, both sides consider their media to be objectively morally sound and accuse their opponents of being sensitive.

@LittleOwlbear Some people will tell you that even the very fact of characters being attractive is toxic and should be avoided in favor of some kind of “realistic appearance”, which in the understanding of such people for some reason always means a very androgynous and gray appearance lacking any charisma.
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@ame I've always found it intriguing how women complain about the sexualization of female characters in male media, while men complain about the sexualization of men in female media. At the same time, both sides consider their media to be objectively morally sound and accuse their opponents of being sensitive.

@LittleOwlbear Some people will tell you that even the very fact of characters being attractive is toxic and should be avoided in favor of some kind of “realistic appearance”, which in the understanding of such people for some reason always means a very androgynous and gray appearance lacking any charisma.
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More realistic does mean more attractive to me tho since I'm not attracted to dolls.
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