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Jul 16, 2009 5:38 PM
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Jul 17, 2009 1:20 PM
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Hmm... was hard for me to understand without subs, but it seems like a nice episode. I knew there was no way the girls team was a match for the boys team just yet.

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Jul 18, 2009 7:15 PM
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they knew they were going to lose but they probably didn't expect it to be so mismatched. this will be a good lesson for them. some crazy drama there too so its not too bad.
Jul 18, 2009 9:03 PM
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This is one of my favorite shows. I'm hoping the subs come out soon. Any word on when?
Jul 18, 2009 10:36 PM
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This is one of my favorite shows. I'm hoping the subs come out soon. Any word on when?
They've been out for 5 hours now; check tokyotosho.

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Anna-sensei's seiyuu is fantastic. Love how expressive she is.

Greatly enjoyed this episode, even more than the first two I think. I was pleasantly surprised at how well their practice (basic practice before the match) went. The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.
Jul 18, 2009 11:44 PM
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windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


While I agree about the fiance I have to disagree about the mailman/delivery guy, give him a chance he might grow on you.

Any way this was a great episode. I was kind of hoping they would make it into the second inning before being crushed. Kind of taking the guys by surprise kind of thing. Maybe next time.

I wonder if they plan on using this game to spread the word amoung other girls schools and get some other teams going.
Jul 19, 2009 12:54 AM
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I just love Akiko more and more!
Jul 19, 2009 12:54 AM
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This episode was kinda deflating, I don't know but I wanted them to do better. Akiko's in a bad mood about the events of this episode and so am I.
Jul 19, 2009 1:38 AM
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southdkotaboy said:
windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


While I agree about the fiance I have to disagree about the mailman/delivery guy, give him a chance he might grow on you.
I hope he does. Can't hate a guy who truly cares for his girl. :)
Jul 19, 2009 4:13 AM

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I loved this episode, i see some romance coming in
Jul 19, 2009 7:14 AM
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Very good episode, less comedy than Episode 2 but a bit more drama. I found the guy who likes Koume to be a bit grating so I hope he calms down in later episodes. He's earnest but too much of a niusance. Tomoe was amusing to watch, with her 'killer' fastball, she's one of my favorites and I really like Shizuka's deadpan exasperation at her sister. Oh, and Anna-sensei is full of awesome.

I'm looking forward to the next episode but I hope it's not too gloomy for poor Akiko.
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southdkotaboy said:
windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


While I agree about the fiance I have to disagree about the mailman/delivery guy, give him a chance he might grow on you.

I like Akiko's fiance, to be honest. Maybe he's a bit narrow minded and opinionated, but I got the feeling that he's a nice guy actually. And it's obvious that he cares for Akiko much.
The other guy is really annoying though, with that I agree.

Overall, this ep was a bit weaker than the first two.
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I thought the first episode was terribly slow. But since then it's been getting so much better. I'm starting to feel the atmosphere of this anime, I was smiling a lot watching this episode. I'm definitely getting into this. Looking forward to more.

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Jul 19, 2009 1:16 PM

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yeah, that was a good episode. I'm really glad that they had the girls flat-out lose and not have a super close game or anything.. not that I'm against them.
Jul 19, 2009 5:12 PM

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Good episode.
They looked so cute when they were practicing in the first half of the episode.
Jul 19, 2009 5:58 PM

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Hahaha at Takahara. xD At first I was like, Ok, nice guy. Then when he came to the school... ^_^; (image shatters)
Ah well, maybe he will become better later on.
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yeah, that was a good episode. I'm really glad that they had the girls flat-out lose and not have a super close game or anything.. not that I'm against them.

Yeah, that would have been... unrealistic (I think)
Jul 19, 2009 8:52 PM

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Akiko lost it :(

Great episode. Takahara is a creep. Iwasaki doesn't seem that bad though. He just needs to realize how what he's saying affects Akiko.

lol Tomoe's straight. Sorry, Kyouko.
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Jul 20, 2009 1:59 AM

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Pretty good episode. Good thing they lost this time. It would have been not believable if they won their first game or had some miraculous comeback. I think it was done pretty well.

Seems next episode will decide how it's going on since they all started playing baseball because Akiko wanted revenge. Now that it didn't work she seems to have lost her interest and endangers the team (typical plot). But I bet they will continue to play anyway. But this time with pure feelings for the game (at least Akiko).
Jul 20, 2009 4:20 AM

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it was an ok ep, so as show itself it seems, but it feels like this isn't really my thing so i'm afraid i'm going to drop it..
Jul 20, 2009 9:50 AM
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It was a very realistic and interesting episode. I like the development of the story and characters for now, I hope the rest will keep up with that.

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windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


Akiko's fiancee may appear like a jerk now, but considering this takes place around 1925 the mentality and standards between the relationships and status of men and woman was just about normal for that time. If anything would be odd it would be the girls interests in baseball. But than again, that is why i like this anime so much.
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The realistic approach was refreshing but I have a feeling it will become a bit more cliched by the end of the series. However that's alright since the characters are becoming more enjoyable... except for the stalker guy... not sure WTF is up with him. <.<
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Jul 21, 2009 3:11 AM

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Akiko needs to learn the lightning ball.

Jul 21, 2009 3:19 AM

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Just watched ep's 2 and 3, I thought the first episode was awful but these past 2 were good. I'm actually quite interested in how the shows going to play out now. I'm surprised the team got together so fast and have already played a game. What was also good was that they actually showed the game in detail. They didn't just skip through it a ton.

Characters have grabbed my interest too, seems to be some drama arising already. I wasn't expecting romance in this show either. As well as Akiko playing baseball because of a guy. Show has started to grow on me :)
Jul 21, 2009 6:28 AM

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The fiance was only acting like he was supposed to act. From our perspective he was an ass from 1925 Japan he was not that out of line. (When the Philadelphia Bobbies, a professional women's team, went to Japan to play male teams in 1925 two of the girls who entertained them at their hotel had been sold by their father to pay for his son's education.) The fact that he was still talking to her, trying to call her etc, is fairly impressive. Showing that while he opposes it he's not ready to do anything drastic about it. Actually she seems more prickly about the issue than he does.
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Lol, lots of people bashing Akiko's fiance. Yeah, he may be a sexist, but like everyone else said, back in those days, his words weren't very sexist. After all, if he wasn't a sexist, there would be no show, right? The whole point of the show is that Akiko wanted to prove she can do things that guys can do too.

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Jul 22, 2009 4:29 AM

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heh i was almost certain that they will lose their first match, oh well 2 outs is not bad xD

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Jul 25, 2009 11:20 PM

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I knew that they can't win against to them. I will continue to watch this series because it have interesting plot. I am looking forward to more.
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Aww, they lost.



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southdkotaboy said:
windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


While I agree about the fiance I have to disagree about the mailman/delivery guy, give him a chance he might grow on you.

Any way this was a great episode. I was kind of hoping they would make it into the second inning before being crushed. Kind of taking the guys by surprise kind of thing. Maybe next time.

I wonder if they plan on using this game to spread the word amoung other girls schools and get some other teams going.


That's true, and keep it mind that this is set WAY back in the day where all guys are douches (douchei?) However, note how he does try to resolve things and accept the truth!

But i love this episode, the mailman is soooooo funny! Finally, an anime where the guy falls in love first! (I don't see much)
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windy said:
The guy following around Koume is annoying, and Akiko's fiance is a douche. I hate it when guys don't realize what they've done wrong and apologize anyway.


Akiko's fiancee may appear like a jerk now, but considering this takes place around 1925 the mentality and standards between the relationships and status of men and woman was just about normal for that time. If anything would be odd it would be the girls interests in baseball. But than again, that is why i like this anime so much.


here here, its good to learn about how things were so we can help change how things will be.

Looks like Koume has a new secret admirer .. and im not taking about Takahara :D all around good episode and that the girls made big strides from being officially recognized and building a practice field to actually participating in a game sure they lost but in the process learned a lot more than they could if they had won.

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I hope there'll be no straight romance during this anime
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"there's no crying in baseball!!"
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Was that love at first sight?!

Akiko is pretty cool though. I don't like her fiance much but whatever. The ending was awkward though. Oh well.
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They slowly improved but suffered a crushing a defeat. That's to be expected though, all things considered. Poor Kyouko. Glad that guy was at least honorable enough to take back the dating condition, although it would've been amusing to see Tamaki get chosen.
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I have this stupid grin on my face the whole time I was watching this episode. I'm so shipping Takahara and Koume haha ^^
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Well that ended badly for them but to receive compliments as well is a good start. It wasn't until Iwasaki started playing that the game turned so one sided.

That guy going after Koume seems rather interesting.

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Ah,the first match didn't end that well,but there's still lot of room for improvement.

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I liked the way misogyny was portrayed in this episode. I found it to be scarily accurate.

First, the guy calling out to Koume. I can understand the misunderstanding if that really was a common method of confession, but he was awfully pushy even after Koume explained that she really did just drop her handkerchief by accident. He seems to take it as an invitation to just keep trying instead of simply apologizing for the misunderstanding and moving on.

Second, the boys' condition for accepting the girls' challenge: the conditions were very obviously given with the assumption they'd win in mind. Rather than laying actual conditions for a fair match, they instead put a condition of the MVP choosing one of the losers to have a rendezvous with. Obviously, they're not taking the girls seriously, and on top of that they're putting in a condition that one of them must spend time in private with one of the boys regardless of what they want. The teacher agreeing on their behalf and saying that's not a big deal does feel rather accurate to me too, sort of in line with how even other women were conditioned to think this was normal and even encourage the behavior, but the girls were obviously extremely uncomfortable with this proposition. For rightful reasoning, too, because girls should be allowed to play a sport without putting their autonomy on the line.

Third, the way the guys (particularly the one with a crush on Koume) weren't taking the girls seriously. The whole "mask covering up your pretty face" comment made me throw up in my mouth. Even today, women who have to cover up for any reason get told this, whether it's covering their face in a profession where that's the norm (medical field, mechanics/woodworking/welding, sports like fencing, scientific research) or covering their body in a profession where that's the norm (astronaut, anything that requires a hazmat suit, working in extreme cold, any other profession requiring heavy gear or body armor). Hell, even during the height of the pandemic, the number of comments on how "women's pretty faces shouldn't be hidden behind masks" was disgustingly high. That comment alone, and more importantly, the way the girls were very obviously disgusted by it, felt very realistic to me. But also, the way that he continued not taking the girls seriously and not playing for real was extremely accurate to how misogyny plays out in real life.

The only guy who seemed to have anything to say that was worthwhile was the guy that said they weren't bad for a team that's just been put together, but it'll take more than that to win. That was pretty important, because it reminds us as an audience that the reason the girls are losing isn't because they're girls, but because they lack experience. They just started learning to play, and they're playing against an organized team that's been doing this for quite some time. It sets up this idea that the guys have already been doing this for a long time and catching up to them will be extremely difficult. This is something that women in many fields have been able to relate to over the years when trying to break the glass ceiling and make a place for women in society. How could women compete with their male counterparts when their male counterparts seemed to be given all these opportunities from a young age just by being born male, whereas women had to fight tooth and nail just for the opportunity to try?

Also, the argument that Akiko's fiancé revoked the rendezvous rule in the end makes it okay is annoying. The fact that it was made at all is the problem, because it was made as a way to try and deter the girls from competing at all. That, and many of the boys seemed upset that it was revoked. I also liked how subtly they showed him being an absolute douchebag, because a lot of misogyny is this way, especially during that time period. The way he tries to be like, "Alright, you've proved your point, will you give it up now?" is really dismissive even if he tries to frame it in a way that makes him sound respectful and caring. Rather than encouraging her to keep trying, since she's obviously put in a lot of work, made great strides, and found other girls who want to do their best to improve, too, he tries to get her to give up. Rather than seeing and encouraging her passion, he just sees this as a long-con attempt at being petty, when it's obvious at this point that she has genuine drive and the desire to keep playing.

Another thing I really like about this show is that rather than portraying misogyny as "a product of its time" and having all the female characters resigning to it being the norm, the show actively shows these girls feeling uncomfortable, hurt, disrespected, and pissed off, in their own ways. Obviously, a lot of the feelings are things they keep inside, but from their reactions, you can tell. It's historically accurate in that way. Much of the time, these women responded to misogyny in more "quiet" ways, but that doesn't mean they just shut up and took it. It doesn't mean they didn't feel hurt or disrespected by misogyny!

Many female characters in anime also react to misogyny in ways that feel either unserious (hitting the pervy guy commenting on their bodies over the head but still hanging out with him anyways?!?!) or as if they actually LIKE it (blushy shyness/tsundere comments, the whole "well she has a crush on him actually so it's okay that he says and does things like that" justification). Or the episode will visually frame female bodies in a very objectifying manner at the same time they try to critique misogyny, which sort of contradicts the whole point.

What I'm trying to say is, it's a refreshing change from what I'm used to seeing, and I hope that it continues to be this way as I watch. I also reeeeally hope they don't try to make Akiko's fiancé just be like, "Oh, you were right! I'm so sorry and I've totally changef my mind!" at the end and having Akiko just accept this. Knowing how most stories go, I'm pretty sure they'll just have her accept it, basically framing the story as a "If you work hard enough, you'll get the approval of males, so keep at it!" tale, which I also hate, but a woman can dream. I just reeeeally hope the message in the end is less of a "work hard for male approval" and more of a "work hard to foster pride in yourself, work hard to find companionship with others, and work hard for a love of what you do".
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