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Oct 28, 2023 11:20 PM
#1
Is it ok to be unable to enjoy Gurren Lagaan? I want to watch it so badly but I can't. I'm afraid Nia's death will trigger the memory of my ex's suicide. I've always felt like the ending cheated it's audience, that Nia didn't deserve to die at her wedding. But people from the anime fandom have shamed me for it, accusing me of murdering her. I cannot help but feel absolutely ashamed and hateful of myself, as I suffer PTSD from when I was sexually abused by my High School peers. One of my greatest fears and insecurities, is being treated as less than human, not even a person. I am afraid if I can't force myself to enjoy what other people enjoy, I won't be a person to them, nor will I be accepted by people as a person. |
DoctorOddballOct 28, 2023 11:28 PM
Oct 28, 2023 11:28 PM
#2
No one forcing you to watch gurren lagaan |
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Oct 28, 2023 11:30 PM
#4
Reply to Nyron
did you generate this insane post with chatGPT?
@Nyron No, I wrote this myself. I'm just really afraid. |
Oct 28, 2023 11:31 PM
#5
Reply to Scavendgarr
No one forcing you to watch gurren lagaan
@Scavendgarr But I'm afraid if I don't force myself to watch it, that I wont' be accepted by others of my own age group, of whom I want to enjoy the same things they do because it's what I've been taught to do as a child. |
Oct 28, 2023 11:36 PM
#6
Reply to DoctorOddball
@Scavendgarr
But I'm afraid if I don't force myself to watch it, that I wont' be accepted by others of my own age group, of whom I want to enjoy the same things they do because it's what I've been taught to do as a child.
But I'm afraid if I don't force myself to watch it, that I wont' be accepted by others of my own age group, of whom I want to enjoy the same things they do because it's what I've been taught to do as a child.
@DoctorOddball eh that's just peer pressure. Idk how old u r but in 5 years you won't even care about wether you watch ttgl or not. Real friend will stay friend with u even if you hate their favs anime. |
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Oct 29, 2023 1:21 AM
#7
I never heard of fearing an anime before. Disliking or hating it, yes, but not fearing it. |
Oct 29, 2023 6:35 AM
#8
Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan? Yes, but for how many people? Some people are afraid to go outside. Is it okay? For many no, for smaller group yes. Is it ok to be unable to enjoy Gurren Lagaan? Yes. Some people enjoy particular work, others hate it. So to each his/her own. |
Oct 29, 2023 6:57 AM
#9
Don't be afraid and let peer pressure get the best of you. Watch it whenever you feel ready to. |
"You fought to the end. You survived. That's why you're here now. I think that's something you should be more proud of." - Vladilena Milizé |
Oct 29, 2023 8:25 AM
#10
It's just a mid anime with a shitty ending. If it bothers you so much then watch other things instead, not like you're missing out if you don't watch it. |
Oct 29, 2023 8:34 AM
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Oct 29, 2023 8:52 AM
#12
It's my personal favorite. It's not perfect, rather inconsistent in quality, but to me it has some greatest moments in anime at it bests. But anyway, since 2007, not everyone can enjoy it. Some people dislike even hate it for some reason. Of course you also don't need to enjoy it. Especially in your case, if that is bring traumatic memory to you. |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
Oct 29, 2023 9:25 AM
#13
I thought it was NGE that triggered you and that you were making similar posts about NGE for the past month or so? Are you saying it's both NGE and Gurren Lagaan that trigger you and that both fandoms have abused you? |
Oct 29, 2023 9:29 AM
#14
Don't force yourself if it makes you feel this bad. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:34 AM
#15
Reply to NDskies
I thought it was NGE that triggered you and that you were making similar posts about NGE for the past month or so? Are you saying it's both NGE and Gurren Lagaan that trigger you and that both fandoms have abused you?
@NDskies Yes, it was the NGE fandom that triggered me. But not the Gurren Lagaan fandom. I'm just afraid of watching it, because the NGE fandom tricked me into hurting myself much more than I needed to. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:35 AM
#16
Reply to Adatius
It's just a mid anime with a shitty ending. If it bothers you so much then watch other things instead, not like you're missing out if you don't watch it.
@Adatius So many videos on YouTube call it the greatest anime of all time, and say so many praiseworthy things about it. It makes me wonder why i cannot see this, why I cannot feel this, why i cannot...change my mind about this. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:36 AM
#17
Reply to Scavendgarr
@DoctorOddball eh that's just peer pressure. Idk how old u r but in 5 years you won't even care about wether you watch ttgl or not. Real friend will stay friend with u even if you hate their favs anime.
@Scavendgarr It was the only way I knew how to make friends during Quarantine. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:36 AM
#18
@Haneken2086 Well, if' you lost a loved one the same way Simon did, as I have, you'd be fearful too. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:37 AM
#19
Reply to removed-user
Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan?
Yes, but for how many people? Some people are afraid to go outside. Is it okay? For many no, for smaller group yes.
Is it ok to be unable to enjoy Gurren Lagaan?
Yes. Some people enjoy particular work, others hate it. So to each his/her own.
@Ysrwii My teachers often forced me to enjoy what they enjoyed, even if I didn't want to, even if it hurt. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:39 AM
#20
Reply to RantingMarauder
I mean it's a great anime imo but you don't even have to force yourself to like something lmao
@RantingMarauder I just want to understand how it's a great anime when I feel like the ending ruins it, especially considering I went through almost the exact same losses Simon did. |
Oct 29, 2023 9:52 AM
#21
Reply to DoctorOddball
@NDskies Yes, it was the NGE fandom that triggered me. But not the Gurren Lagaan fandom. I'm just afraid of watching it, because the NGE fandom tricked me into hurting myself much more than I needed to.
@DoctorOddball If you're afraid of watching something then don't watch it. There are TONS of other anime and books and movies to explore. The healthiest thing in life can be just to move on to something else instead of being stuck in the past or imprisoned by your own fears. A month and a half ago on the NGE forum you posted a thread titled "I Am Deathly Afraid of Evangelion" (which i responded to back then) and a week or so ago on this forum you started a similar thread once again about NGE. And now you are posting a thread titled "Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan?" To me this looks like you are trapped by your own fears and by the past and that you are reluctant to move on. Please tell me that you aren't playing with us. I am beginning to have some doubts in that regard to be honest with you. |
Oct 29, 2023 10:08 AM
#22
Just don't watch it I guess. Also maybe you should put spoilers in a spoiler tag if you're gonna post about these things in general AD. |
"Most anime makers are basically autistic" - Hideaki Anno |
Oct 29, 2023 12:10 PM
#23
Reply to RantingMarauder
I mean it's a great anime imo but you don't even have to force yourself to like something lmao
RantingMarauder said: I mean it's a great anime imo but you don't even have to force yourself to like something lmao Agreed, just wait until you're ready to handle any emotion or impact somewhat. |
Oct 29, 2023 12:18 PM
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Oct 29, 2023 12:33 PM
#25
Oct 29, 2023 12:50 PM
#26
Oh for Christ's sake. What is it with zoomers forcing themselves to enjoy everything that is or once was popular? I'm sorry that you lost your ex. You need some behavioral training to learn to control these bursts so I suggest that you visit a psychiatrist. Also, those who supposedly "shamed" you are daft fanboys, and Gurren Lagann has a history of shortsighted fanboys. |
Hot Blood saves lives. |
Oct 29, 2023 1:06 PM
#27
DoctorOddball said: Is it ok to be unable to enjoy Gurren Lagaan? I want to watch it so badly but I can't. I don't want to watch it. Imaishi's stories are dumb. |
その目だれの目? |
Oct 29, 2023 1:28 PM
#28
depending on how it's handled, tragic events can elevate an anime from just "ok" to masterpiece! I'm sure there's a few out there that take a nihilistic approach to the subject kinda like how Evangelion (a show which seems to revel in causing the audience mental/emotional trauma) does. I doubt Gurren Lagaan is like that. But I wouldn't know because I dropped it way before it reached that point in the story. |
epidemia78Oct 29, 2023 1:31 PM
Oct 29, 2023 1:32 PM
#29
Gurren Lagann is my favorite anime of all time. Do I care in the slightest that you didn't enjoy it? No. Please, don't be afraid of people who live in echo-chambers and can't engage in discussions without throwing tantrums like a child. They are vocal and obnoxious, and you will stumble across many of them when discussing anime, unfortunately. Your opinion is valid regardless of what it may be, since media is subjective at the end of the day. Don't put much emphasis on such people, since most of them are just waste of time. Also, sorry you had to go through that. My sincerest apologies. |
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Oct 29, 2023 2:22 PM
#30
Bro, with the greatest of sympathy, this isn't the place. That's some heavy shit and you should definitely talk to someone, a friend, professional, etc to work through it. Also, as someone who has suffered tragic loss in various forms, you will never not have the memories you have. The bell can't be unrung and if you don't learn to deal with thinking about it (because you will, man) when something triggers it then it's gonna be a hard life for you, mate. As far as the show goes, just go ahead and watch it if you wanna watch it. It's very entertaining and the end isn't so much sad as it is bittersweet. |
Oct 29, 2023 2:26 PM
#31
"Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan?" You should ain't afraid of no ghost! |
Oct 29, 2023 2:48 PM
#32
Reply to NDskies
@DoctorOddball
If you're afraid of watching something then don't watch it. There are TONS of other anime and books and movies to explore. The healthiest thing in life can be just to move on to something else instead of being stuck in the past or imprisoned by your own fears. A month and a half ago on the NGE forum you posted a thread titled "I Am Deathly Afraid of Evangelion" (which i responded to back then) and a week or so ago on this forum you started a similar thread once again about NGE. And now you are posting a thread titled "Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan?" To me this looks like you are trapped by your own fears and by the past and that you are reluctant to move on.
Please tell me that you aren't playing with us. I am beginning to have some doubts in that regard to be honest with you.
If you're afraid of watching something then don't watch it. There are TONS of other anime and books and movies to explore. The healthiest thing in life can be just to move on to something else instead of being stuck in the past or imprisoned by your own fears. A month and a half ago on the NGE forum you posted a thread titled "I Am Deathly Afraid of Evangelion" (which i responded to back then) and a week or so ago on this forum you started a similar thread once again about NGE. And now you are posting a thread titled "Is it Ok to Be Afraid of Gurren Lagaan?" To me this looks like you are trapped by your own fears and by the past and that you are reluctant to move on.
Please tell me that you aren't playing with us. I am beginning to have some doubts in that regard to be honest with you.
@NDskies I am not playing with you. Oftentimes I am reluctant to move on because Im' afraid that my Autism will end up hurting other people again, just as so many have blamed me for in the past, when in reality it wasn't my fault. I often focus on the past and try to remember it as best I can, to try and figure out how many lies I've been told as a child that my own teachers taught me were truth, and how they manipulated me. |
Oct 29, 2023 2:55 PM
#33
Reply to CallMeHoot
Bro, with the greatest of sympathy, this isn't the place. That's some heavy shit and you should definitely talk to someone, a friend, professional, etc to work through it.
Also, as someone who has suffered tragic loss in various forms, you will never not have the memories you have. The bell can't be unrung and if you don't learn to deal with thinking about it (because you will, man) when something triggers it then it's gonna be a hard life for you, mate.
As far as the show goes, just go ahead and watch it if you wanna watch it. It's very entertaining and the end isn't so much sad as it is bittersweet.
Also, as someone who has suffered tragic loss in various forms, you will never not have the memories you have. The bell can't be unrung and if you don't learn to deal with thinking about it (because you will, man) when something triggers it then it's gonna be a hard life for you, mate.
As far as the show goes, just go ahead and watch it if you wanna watch it. It's very entertaining and the end isn't so much sad as it is bittersweet.
@CallMeHoot Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Nia die right after they're declared husband and wife? If I recall, one of them asked Simon, "Can't he bring her back?" Technically, he can, but one of the girls says, "He's not God", which in my personal opinion is a very weak arguement. According to the Wiki page, it is said that Simon leaves his friends forever to wander the earth a nameless vagrant. Many have said that the reason he doesn't wish to lead is because he is "Just Simon" and that he shouldn't lead, because they need to make room for the next generation. Tbh, I think this ending is complete bullshit. First off, what kind of hero abandons his friends after all of the blood, sweat, and tears they shed together in the name of some arrogant self-righteous philosophy? If I were him, I would've stuck around and helped my friends rebuild their lives as a token of gratitude, after all, they're a team, they need to stick together if they're going to be stronger. Secondly, I don't care if someone says he cannot bring back Nia just because "he isn't God". Simon deserves to be happy after everything he sacrificed. Nia's death came completely out of nowhere and was a complete buzzkill. Couldn't he have just shattered the core drill to bring back Nia WITHOUT him using his power? And from the looks of it, Simon grows into an old man who has no friends anymore. What kind of a life is that? What kind of a happy ending is that? If I were Simon, and I saw my wife die right in front of me, I would've cried and I would've gathered all of my friends in a circle for a group hug. Simon's emotionless reaction to Nia's death just doesn't feel right at all, it doesn't feel natural nor cathartic. In fact, it just makes me feel worse about myself, as it makes me feel like I could never grow into the man that Simon is, because I would cry at the loss of a loved one. Let me put it to you like this, both my childhood friend and ex girlfriend committed suicide during the Covid-19 Pandemic. I lived a troubled childhood, as my Autism got me forcefully pigeonholed; ostracized in my school life by my own special ed teachers who were supposed to teach me how to learn to act like a person, but instead I was often treated like an animal in a cage; less than human. My childhood friend's death came out of nowhere. It was spontaneous, and he told no one, not even his own parents about it. And he seemed truly happy, as he lived a more privileged life than I did. So I couldn't help but wonder why he didn't tell me. My ex girlfriend is a more tragic story. Her drunken father abandoned her at birth and her mother died in a car accident. Her grandparents were also exploiting her for her college money. She was suffering depression as well, and Covid put a major barrier between us. I promised I would be there for her and do everything within my power to support her. But it wasn't enough. That's is why I'm afraid of Gurren Lagaan, because I suffered a very similar fate to that of Simon, and I feel like all the sacrifice I made in my efforts to become a man was for nothing. |
DoctorOddballOct 29, 2023 3:06 PM
Oct 29, 2023 2:57 PM
#34
Reply to eekeen
Gurren Lagann is my favorite anime of all time. Do I care in the slightest that you didn't enjoy it? No. Please, don't be afraid of people who live in echo-chambers and can't engage in discussions without throwing tantrums like a child. They are vocal and obnoxious, and you will stumble across many of them when discussing anime, unfortunately. Your opinion is valid regardless of what it may be, since media is subjective at the end of the day. Don't put much emphasis on such people, since most of them are just waste of time.
Also, sorry you had to go through that. My sincerest apologies.
Also, sorry you had to go through that. My sincerest apologies.
@eekeen But that's exactly what I was afraid about. Something similar happened to me in another anime fandom where I wasn't able to enjoy an anime they said would cure me of my depression no matter how hard I tried, so they ended up accusing me of faking it. For four years they stalked me, doxed me, and threatened to hunt me down and kill me. I'm afraid if I cannot win their acceptance and approval, they'll continue to hunt me down and stalk me, and continue to lie about me just as they have before when they created a horrible rumor of me being a "dogfucker" to get me banned off of hundreds of Discord servers during Lockdown. |
DoctorOddballOct 29, 2023 3:14 PM
Oct 29, 2023 3:00 PM
#35
It's fine if you don't like what others love, in fact, you can talk shit about the things you hated afterwards. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:04 PM
#36
Reply to Adatius
It's just a mid anime with a shitty ending. If it bothers you so much then watch other things instead, not like you're missing out if you don't watch it.
@Adatius This is an ironic comment from someone who likes Monster. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:11 PM
#37
Reply to palm-tree
There’s no reason to treat not watching a particular TV show as such a big deal. Billions of others haven’t seen it, and they’re doing just fine. I’m sure you’ll survive without it, just like they have.
@palm-tree I'm just afraid if I don't force myself to enjoy something, they'll stalk me down and kill me like they tried before. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:12 PM
#38
Reply to epidemia78
depending on how it's handled, tragic events can elevate an anime from just "ok" to masterpiece! I'm sure there's a few out there that take a nihilistic approach to the subject kinda like how Evangelion (a show which seems to revel in causing the audience mental/emotional trauma) does. I doubt Gurren Lagaan is like that. But I wouldn't know because I dropped it way before it reached that point in the story.
@epidemia78 Knowing me, and my tragic past, is it any wonder why I'm afraid of it? well...not just afraid of it, but I'm afraid of being unable to enjoy what others enjoy, because if I fail, then I'm afraid they'll hunt me down and kill me. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:13 PM
#39
Reply to TheMechaManiac
Oh for Christ's sake. What is it with zoomers forcing themselves to enjoy everything that is or once was popular?
I'm sorry that you lost your ex. You need some behavioral training to learn to control these bursts so I suggest that you visit a psychiatrist. Also, those who supposedly "shamed" you are daft fanboys, and Gurren Lagann has a history of shortsighted fanboys.
I'm sorry that you lost your ex. You need some behavioral training to learn to control these bursts so I suggest that you visit a psychiatrist. Also, those who supposedly "shamed" you are daft fanboys, and Gurren Lagann has a history of shortsighted fanboys.
@TheMechaManiac If you knew my abusive past, you'd understand why I'm trying so hard to enjoy things that others do. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:14 PM
#40
Reply to Serafos
Don't force yourself if it makes you feel this bad.
@Serafos Even if many others will hate me for it so much they'll stalk me? |
Oct 29, 2023 3:15 PM
#41
Reply to DoctorOddball
@epidemia78 Knowing me, and my tragic past, is it any wonder why I'm afraid of it?
well...not just afraid of it, but I'm afraid of being unable to enjoy what others enjoy, because if I fail, then I'm afraid they'll hunt me down and kill me.
well...not just afraid of it, but I'm afraid of being unable to enjoy what others enjoy, because if I fail, then I'm afraid they'll hunt me down and kill me.
@DoctorOddball Who's gonna hunt you down? Anime fans never even leave the house bro. You're talking crazy now. Are you sure you're not a troll? |
Oct 29, 2023 3:16 PM
#42
Reply to epidemia78
@DoctorOddball
Who's gonna hunt you down? Anime fans never even leave the house bro. You're talking crazy now. Are you sure you're not a troll?
Who's gonna hunt you down? Anime fans never even leave the house bro. You're talking crazy now. Are you sure you're not a troll?
@epidemia78 Yes, anime fans. For four years they stalked me online, doxed me, and said they were sending some people to gut me. But more than that, they made a lie about me that I am a zoophile. The lengths these people have gone to just to make me feel miserable during Covid is insanity. If you'd read the rest of my Message in a Bottle, you'd see what they had done. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:18 PM
#43
Reply to DoctorOddball
@CallMeHoot
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Nia die right after they're declared husband and wife? If I recall, one of them asked Simon, "Can't he bring her back?" Technically, he can, but one of the girls says, "He's not God", which in my personal opinion is a very weak arguement.
According to the Wiki page, it is said that Simon leaves his friends forever to wander the earth a nameless vagrant. Many have said that the reason he doesn't wish to lead is because he is "Just Simon" and that he shouldn't lead, because they need to make room for the next generation.
Tbh, I think this ending is complete bullshit.
First off, what kind of hero abandons his friends after all of the blood, sweat, and tears they shed together in the name of some arrogant self-righteous philosophy? If I were him, I would've stuck around and helped my friends rebuild their lives as a token of gratitude, after all, they're a team, they need to stick together if they're going to be stronger.
Secondly, I don't care if someone says he cannot bring back Nia just because "he isn't God". Simon deserves to be happy after everything he sacrificed. Nia's death came completely out of nowhere and was a complete buzzkill. Couldn't he have just shattered the core drill to bring back Nia WITHOUT him using his power?
And from the looks of it, Simon grows into an old man who has no friends anymore. What kind of a life is that? What kind of a happy ending is that?
If I were Simon, and I saw my wife die right in front of me, I would've cried and I would've gathered all of my friends in a circle for a group hug.
Simon's emotionless reaction to Nia's death just doesn't feel right at all, it doesn't feel natural nor cathartic. In fact, it just makes me feel worse about myself, as it makes me feel like I could never grow into the man that Simon is, because I would cry at the loss of a loved one.
Let me put it to you like this, both my childhood friend and ex girlfriend committed suicide during the Covid-19 Pandemic.
I lived a troubled childhood, as my Autism got me forcefully pigeonholed; ostracized in my school life by my own special ed teachers who were supposed to teach me how to learn to act like a person, but instead I was often treated like an animal in a cage; less than human.
My childhood friend's death came out of nowhere. It was spontaneous, and he told no one, not even his own parents about it. And he seemed truly happy, as he lived a more privileged life than I did. So I couldn't help but wonder why he didn't tell me.
My ex girlfriend is a more tragic story. Her drunken father abandoned her at birth and her mother died in a car accident. Her grandparents were also exploiting her for her college money. She was suffering depression as well, and Covid put a major barrier between us. I promised I would be there for her and do everything within my power to support her. But it wasn't enough.
That's is why I'm afraid of Gurren Lagaan, because I suffered a very similar fate to that of Simon, and I feel like all the sacrifice I made in my efforts to become a man was for nothing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Nia die right after they're declared husband and wife? If I recall, one of them asked Simon, "Can't he bring her back?" Technically, he can, but one of the girls says, "He's not God", which in my personal opinion is a very weak arguement.
According to the Wiki page, it is said that Simon leaves his friends forever to wander the earth a nameless vagrant. Many have said that the reason he doesn't wish to lead is because he is "Just Simon" and that he shouldn't lead, because they need to make room for the next generation.
Tbh, I think this ending is complete bullshit.
First off, what kind of hero abandons his friends after all of the blood, sweat, and tears they shed together in the name of some arrogant self-righteous philosophy? If I were him, I would've stuck around and helped my friends rebuild their lives as a token of gratitude, after all, they're a team, they need to stick together if they're going to be stronger.
Secondly, I don't care if someone says he cannot bring back Nia just because "he isn't God". Simon deserves to be happy after everything he sacrificed. Nia's death came completely out of nowhere and was a complete buzzkill. Couldn't he have just shattered the core drill to bring back Nia WITHOUT him using his power?
And from the looks of it, Simon grows into an old man who has no friends anymore. What kind of a life is that? What kind of a happy ending is that?
If I were Simon, and I saw my wife die right in front of me, I would've cried and I would've gathered all of my friends in a circle for a group hug.
Simon's emotionless reaction to Nia's death just doesn't feel right at all, it doesn't feel natural nor cathartic. In fact, it just makes me feel worse about myself, as it makes me feel like I could never grow into the man that Simon is, because I would cry at the loss of a loved one.
Let me put it to you like this, both my childhood friend and ex girlfriend committed suicide during the Covid-19 Pandemic.
I lived a troubled childhood, as my Autism got me forcefully pigeonholed; ostracized in my school life by my own special ed teachers who were supposed to teach me how to learn to act like a person, but instead I was often treated like an animal in a cage; less than human.
My childhood friend's death came out of nowhere. It was spontaneous, and he told no one, not even his own parents about it. And he seemed truly happy, as he lived a more privileged life than I did. So I couldn't help but wonder why he didn't tell me.
My ex girlfriend is a more tragic story. Her drunken father abandoned her at birth and her mother died in a car accident. Her grandparents were also exploiting her for her college money. She was suffering depression as well, and Covid put a major barrier between us. I promised I would be there for her and do everything within my power to support her. But it wasn't enough.
That's is why I'm afraid of Gurren Lagaan, because I suffered a very similar fate to that of Simon, and I feel like all the sacrifice I made in my efforts to become a man was for nothing.
@DoctorOddball Not to be insensitive, truly, but it sounds like you've already watched Gurren Lagann...making your OP kinda pointless? Or you legit just ruined the show for yourself anyway by reading the Wiki spoilers...in which case it's the same deal, your OP is now kinda moot. Or I misunderstood and you already watched it and are afraid to rewatch it? Regarding your struggles and how people approach the death of loved ones or just loss in general...if you've never seen it up close then you don't know. No matter what fiction tells you. The way a person handles grief differs from person to person. Where I might cry and show outward emotion, someone else might internalise and remain stoic. All I will say, brother, is that some people cannot be saved. Trust me. I know. It's not on you. I can't say it better than Boromir puts it in The Fellowship of the Ring : (paraphrased) "You carry a heavy burden, Frodo. Do not carry the weight of the dead." |
CallMeHootOct 29, 2023 3:22 PM
Oct 29, 2023 3:24 PM
#44
Reply to CallMeHoot
@DoctorOddball Not to be insensitive, truly, but it sounds like you've already watched Gurren Lagann...making your OP kinda pointless? Or you legit just ruined the show for yourself anyway by reading the Wiki spoilers...in which case it's the same deal, your OP is now kinda moot. Or I misunderstood and you already watched it and are afraid to rewatch it?
Regarding your struggles and how people approach the death of loved ones or just loss in general...if you've never seen it up close then you don't know. No matter what fiction tells you. The way a person handles grief differs from person to person. Where I might cry and show outward emotion, someone else might internalise and remain stoic.
All I will say, brother, is that some people cannot be saved. Trust me. I know. It's not on you. I can't say it better than Boromir puts it in The Fellowship of the Ring : (paraphrased)
"You carry a heavy burden, Frodo. Do not carry the weight of the dead."
Regarding your struggles and how people approach the death of loved ones or just loss in general...if you've never seen it up close then you don't know. No matter what fiction tells you. The way a person handles grief differs from person to person. Where I might cry and show outward emotion, someone else might internalise and remain stoic.
All I will say, brother, is that some people cannot be saved. Trust me. I know. It's not on you. I can't say it better than Boromir puts it in The Fellowship of the Ring : (paraphrased)
"You carry a heavy burden, Frodo. Do not carry the weight of the dead."
@CallMeHoot The ending was spoiled for me long ago on YouTube years ago. At first, it wasn't that bothersome. But it wasn't until Covid that I truly became afraid to watch that particular anime. And...that's why I refuse to watch it, because I feel like Simon remaining stoic in the face of Nia's death would make me feel worse about myself, because I could never hold back any tears when my girlfriend passed away. If anything, it makes me feel like I could never become the man Simon is, which is something I want for myself so badly, but I'm afraid that I if I try I will fail miserably like I have with Evangelion. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:31 PM
#45
Reply to DoctorOddball
@CallMeHoot The ending was spoiled for me long ago on YouTube years ago. At first, it wasn't that bothersome. But it wasn't until Covid that I truly became afraid to watch that particular anime.
And...that's why I refuse to watch it, because I feel like Simon remaining stoic in the face of Nia's death would make me feel worse about myself, because I could never hold back any tears when my girlfriend passed away.
If anything, it makes me feel like I could never become the man Simon is, which is something I want for myself so badly, but I'm afraid that I if I try I will fail miserably like I have with Evangelion.
And...that's why I refuse to watch it, because I feel like Simon remaining stoic in the face of Nia's death would make me feel worse about myself, because I could never hold back any tears when my girlfriend passed away.
If anything, it makes me feel like I could never become the man Simon is, which is something I want for myself so badly, but I'm afraid that I if I try I will fail miserably like I have with Evangelion.
@DoctorOddball Being a man has nothing to do with how you handle grief, brother. Displaying emotions do not make someone less or more or of a man. You shouldn't worry about things like that. If you can get up everyday and make your bed, you're already doing better than a lot of people. The hero fantasy we see in fiction is just that...it's fantasy. Sometimes it aligns with reality but we can't all be Henry V, no? Do you care for your family and friends? Do your best for them? Love your parents? Then you're a man. (Same applies to women, for the screeching gender obsessed crowd.) |
Oct 29, 2023 3:34 PM
#46
ok, you fooled me once shame on me, but it just seems like you keep going out of your way to ask for it. no ofcourse its not your fault. but also, WHO CARES? just don't watch the show, it ain't that deep. People who have easy triggers should do research before watching shit. that is all there is to it. there are countless other classics that you could watch instead. |
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Oct 29, 2023 3:37 PM
#47
I've heard of people being afraid to watch Berserk but never Gurren Lagaan lol. |
Oct 29, 2023 3:48 PM
#48
It’s okay OP, Gurren Lagann isn’t any good. |
Oct 29, 2023 4:56 PM
#49
Reply to DoctorOddball
@NDskies
I am not playing with you. Oftentimes I am reluctant to move on because Im' afraid that my Autism will end up hurting other people again, just as so many have blamed me for in the past, when in reality it wasn't my fault. I often focus on the past and try to remember it as best I can, to try and figure out how many lies I've been told as a child that my own teachers taught me were truth, and how they manipulated me.
I am not playing with you. Oftentimes I am reluctant to move on because Im' afraid that my Autism will end up hurting other people again, just as so many have blamed me for in the past, when in reality it wasn't my fault. I often focus on the past and try to remember it as best I can, to try and figure out how many lies I've been told as a child that my own teachers taught me were truth, and how they manipulated me.
@DoctorOddball Thank you. I'm happy to learn that my doubts were groundless. Focusing too much in the past is a good way to trip yourself up in the present. I used to do that too until i finally realized that letting go of the past is like letting go of a heavy weight. Forgiving those who may have wronged you is another weight that one is better off not carrying around with you. People sometimes tell falsehoods without understanding that they were telling falsehoods. No one is perfect. We all have to forgive one another so that we ourselves can be forgiven. For surely each of us has wittingly or unwittingly done many wrongs. In response to something else you've posted here, please realize that virtually all threats made online of the type you experienced are simply people having 'fun' scaring others. Yes it's awful of them but practically speaking the best thing to do is forget about them and move on. And that's really the best advice i can give you on many fronts. If an anime or whatever negatively affects you, move on to something else. There's a vast ocean of anime and books and movies and music out there. Keep exploring this vastness and you'll eventually end up with many wonderful treasures of your own choosing. That in my opinion is the best way to go about it. For the trinkets that you yourself stumbled across will often end up being the most precious to you. And maybe you didn't just happen to stumble across them. Maybe God or the Holy Spirit or fate or what have you led to you discover a certain something at a certain time in your life when it would have a profound impact on you. Is that not better than simply going along with the crowd and trying to force yourself to like something because others like it? That's being a slave to the world and worldly opinion. In my experience happiness is seldom found in that direction. |
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