| I hear people say things like "liking loli is bad" and other arguments like that. On the flip side, I also hear the exact opposite. Honestly tho, idk what "loli" or similar terms even mean at this point since there are more definitions than there are chapters in Psalms. But what do you think, is this whole loli and shota business blown way out of proportion? Or is this something that needs to die? |
| I believe their are 3 types of perspective on loli. 1. Lolicon but refuses to admit they are pretty much made to be fictional kids in body type. 2. Lolicon who recognizes loli for what it is. Fictional kid body type 3. Anti lolicon Truth is loli is popular since it is made to be very cute, and puberty starts at around 12-13 in boys so liking such body types is not weird though you should never hit on minors irl. Lol I would say liking fictional petite bodies is not always equivalent to liking the same thing irl as actual human faces never look as good as anime girl faces. It is hard for me to believe any guy can really hate loli genre completely. |
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| People are damn hypocrites. They hate on something like Boku no Pico or Shoujo Ramune, but at the same time, the same people give 10/10 to Monogatari series. "This says a lot about society" (c) |
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| being a lolicon is a bad thing,there brain is probably fked up. they r just just jobless degenerate's and only weird people can like loli's. if someone like's loli or shota then u should stay away from them. |
CandyRagiJul 9, 2022 12:41 PM
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Nemo_Niemand said: People are damn hypocrites. They hate on something like Boku no Pico or Shoujo Ramune, but at the same time, the same people give 10/10 to Monogatari series. "This says a lot about society" (c) Wow dude , u litrally think an average shoujo Ramune and boku no pico are same as monogatari series. do u turn off ur brain while watching anime? |
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| Yes, they are. After all, they are drawings, it doesn't matter if they are said to be 13 years old or less or if they have 1000 years because they are drawings and aren't real, that is the only truest stance. |
CandyRagi said: being a lolicon is a bad thing,there mind is probably fked up. they r just just jobless degenerate's and only weird people can like loli's. if someone like's loli or shota then u should stay away from them. You gave 9s and 10s to Monogatari series, which is literally a pedo bait show for freaking pedophiles. Double standards as it is. A latent pedo trying to redeem himself lmao. CandyRagi said: Wow dude , u litrally think an average shoujo Ramune and boku no pico are same as monogatari series. do u turn off ur brain while watching anime? No, I don't think they are the same. I enjoyed them better than Monogatari series. At least they are straightforward and don't pretend to be something better than they are in reality. |
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| Lolis are just young looking anime girls and that's it, nothing sexual, nothing weird. People who seriously associate lolis with real life children and accuse lolicons as pedophiles should get their brain checked because they are the real weirdos. I like lolis a lot but I don't like real life children, don't know how people even find a connection between these two. |
Nemo_Niemand said: CandyRagi said: being a lolicon is a bad thing,there mind is probably fked up. they r just just jobless degenerate's and only weird people can like loli's. if someone like's loli or shota then u should stay away from them. You gave 9s and 10s to Monogatari series, which is literally a pedo bait show for freaking pedophiles. Double standards as it is. A latent pedo trying to redeem himself lmao. CandyRagi said: Wow dude , u litrally think an average shoujo Ramune and boku no pico are same as monogatari series. do u turn off ur brain while watching anime? No, I don't think they are the same. I enjoyed them better than Monogatari series. At least they are straightforward and don't pretend to be something better than they are in reality. nah bro , my guy litrally said monogatari is a pedo bait.  This guy probably didnt watch monogatari or is just trolling or actually watches anime after turning off his brain. Not going to take u seriously anymore LoL. |
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TheFireNinja said: Nemo_Niemand said: People are damn hypocrites. They hate on something like Boku no Pico or Shoujo Ramune, but at the same time, the same people give 10/10 to Monogatari series. "This says a lot about society" (c) What's even more confusing is how hentai like Boku no Pico has become a meme in the anime community. You would think that for how seriously people come down on lolicons in the anime community, that they wouldn't treat Boku no Pico as a laughing matter. I haven't even watched it. Because gay is funny haha. Sigh. It's just degenerates making fun of something being gay. Like that green dude jumping from the shelf and proclaiming "I'm gay". Funniest shit ever (c). In my opinion, anything is ok as long as it is fiction. There should be no taboos. Let people's imagination go as far as it can. Well, to be fair, the first part of BnP does have the unhealthy "grown man with a kid" thing which everyone feels uneasy about. Although everything is still sweet and vanilla there. No brutal rape or something. And the second and third parts are even just "boys and boys", where there are no adult participants and thus no child abuse. Edit: I've just remembered how much shit people were throwing at the end of Usagi Drop manga haha. Imo people are just hypocrites who try to redeem themselves for their own dirty reasons. |
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CandyRagi said: Nemo_Niemand said: You gave 9s and 10s to Monogatari series, which is literally a pedo bait show for freaking pedophiles. Double standards as it is. A latent pedo trying to redeem himself lmao. No, I don't think they are the same. I enjoyed them better than Monogatari series. At least they are straightforward and don't pretend to be something better than they are in reality. nah bro , my guy litrally said monogatari is a pedo bait. This guy probably didnt watch monogatari or is just trolling or actually watches anime after turning off his brain. Not going to take u seriously anymore LoL. Eh? You actually took me serious before? Gotcha. Anyway, in every joke there is a grain of truth ;) |
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| Yeah, I think it's not a big deal to want to lewd lolis and shotas. It's just western obsession with children's issues that spills out into strange places in strange ways. |
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| context matters a lot when one is discussing loli. in one context it could be like "aww cute *pats head*" and other "jail". |
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deg said: Man western culture sucks then. If they battle in a crusade against fictional pedophilia, then that's sad. its just culture wars at this point since western culture is against pedophilia no matter the form |
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Yuu_Kanzaki said: deg said: Man western culture sucks then. If they battle in a crusade against fictional pedophilia, then that's sad. its just culture wars at this point since western culture is against pedophilia no matter the form Every culture sucks, in some shape or form I mean there is no perfect culture anywhere in the world. anyways people who hate cute lolis are weird especially if they vocalize their hate, at that point they are probably trolling or just way too insane to be taken seriously (theres like pretty much no cases of haters being non trolls / insane) ๐ just discard their opinions lol |
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| I'd say I'm not partial in this, but I see nothing wrong with loli/shota, be it sfw or not, they're drawings and no one gets hurt. I'd much rather have people fapping to those than raping kids. Also they're not like real children at all. Maybe lolis and shotas look like children, but their personality is completely different, at least in hentai. It's actually rare to see a minor in hentai acting like one without being obsessed by sex or something even less likely. |
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| Is it blown out of proportion? Yes, of course it is. People always over react to fictional media. You're talking about a world where people thought Pokemon was part of some satanic ritual. Are there some actual fucked up people who let their love of lolis bleed into the real world? More than likely yes. But there's fucked up people in every fandom. Any rational person would know that banning certain content won't stop these kinda people though. In fact, it'll probably have the opposite effect, and make them more likely to harm real people. |
FanofActionJul 10, 2022 2:16 AM
| some people seem to think the K-On girls are "lolis" so yeah I'd say the concept is pretty massively misunderstood |
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someonetookaezo said: They are animated representations of literal children go get therapy Monogatari series in faves every damn time. |
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| It's one part of my job to find exact definitions for words. Maybe because of that I rly don't care that much in my hobby. Loli does not have an eroge meaning only for me. I think after years of use it just means a (in body) childlike person. Sometimes cute, sometimes sexualized. Languages can change, a lot of people don't realize this. |
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someonetookaezo said: Ah yes the only reason I enjoy Monogatari is because of the sexualization of children and it's odd portrayal. Well if it's such a big deal to you then maybe you should have the integrity to stand by your moral convictions. |
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| keep telling you guys, nymphettes better than lolis |
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epidemia78 said: some people seem to think the K-On girls are "lolis" so yeah I'd say the concept is pretty massively misunderstood They are by definition but the term sadly got sexualized so much that it's hard to call keions lolis now without it sounding weird. |
ateks said: epidemia78 said: some people seem to think the K-On girls are "lolis" so yeah I'd say the concept is pretty massively misunderstood They are by definition but the term sadly got sexualized so much that it's hard to call keions lolis now without it sounding weird. They're high school girls. Aren't lolis supposed to be a lot younger than that? |
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epidemia78 said: ateks said: They are by definition but the term sadly got sexualized so much that it's hard to call keions lolis now without it sounding weird. They're high school girls. Aren't lolis supposed to be a lot younger than that? They are supposed to be high school girls but look like 13 year olds. That's the very definition of lolis. |
| The lolis is my favorites list are meant for protecting >:( |
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| My opinion on lolis: They are supposted to represent children(regardless of the age they really have)...I'm talking about how they are socially perceived, not how old they biologically are(I know they aren't real...but you can't tell me they are above age, while at the same time tell me they aren't real xD) Shiro, Tatsumaki and Rukia are all lolis but I never saw people complaining about Rukia's looks and the connection to lolicon(we only saw people saying she wasn't as hot as Orihime or that she shouldn't be with Ichigo by the end of the story)... Tatsumaki is in the middle term, while she definitely looks like a young teen, she behaves her age, so the complaints exist and are stricly connected to her looks. Shiro is just pedo bait(I'm sorry but it's true for what I've seen) Being attracted to lolis isn't an issue in of itself(imo), but this is only true if you're not an adult(which seems the case for most anime fans, so it's fine)...the issue I and other people have is with the adults. These characters aren't real, but they represent something that is definitely real(kids and/or teens...again I'm talkig abot how they are perceived) and denying this is what makes people suspicious of the actions of people in the anime community...without any context people would assume those characters were children, or at least teens. At this point I don't really care, since adult people that like lolis usually try to find comfort from other people's comments reinforcing their predisposition, while ignoring comments like mine |
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Nemo_Niemand said: People are damn hypocrites. They hate on something like Boku no Pico or Shoujo Ramune, but at the same time, the same people give 10/10 to Monogatari series. "This says a lot about society" (c) the main difference isn't between it being shota and loli. the main difference is that one of them is actually good. |
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| I think works with lolis or shotas don't have to cease to exist, after all they are just fictional beings; I know that there are people who like lolis and shotas in the sexual sense, people who like it just because they find it "cute" and there are people who think it's cute and get excited seeing lolis or shotas, but it's always necessary to remember that lolis or shotas are beings that do not really exist and that lolicons and shotacons are "fictosexual" (almost all that exist), that is, they only attract to fictional beings. People need to learn to separate fiction from reality or they will go crazy watching a "rape and revenge" movie. |
| Loli means a young girl character designed with moe elements in mind. Lolicon, on the other hand, is hentai involving loli characters, which is what is brought up when people say it's bad. I have seen some pretty unhinged takes on both sides of the issue. It's a tedious topic, and generally I think it has polluted anime discussion far more than it should have. |
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