What makes anime such a hated medium?

GreiLugaj said:

The majority of content of all mediums isn't that good.

-Ryu said:

Isn't it more likely that people who consume anime that heavily sexualize women are porn addicts? At least that's how it is in my circles, some weebs I know seem unable to view anything without becoming horny.

LordSozin said:


I'm confident if you were to branch out into other mediums, you'll find refreshing ones that are better than anime.

TheFireNinja said:
Yeah. It amazes me how many people even watch anime considering how much they shit on themselves for their hobby and the shows they watch. I've always found the "anime is trash and so am I" meme to be very cringe. Some people do it to joke. But there are those who actually believe that anime contributes to them not having a social life or those that think anime can turn people into weirdoes. I mean, if they didn't have much of a social life before watching anime, it's not going to change as they watch it unless they get out of their bubble and improve their social interactions. Plus, there are people out there who do deviant or weird things without anime being a connection to their actions. I think some of it is xenophobic.

LordSozin said:


I'm confident if you were to branch out into other mediums, you'll find refreshing ones that are better than anime.

Mirai said:
Not all anime sexualizes women and children, but that is still the reason why people don't like anime. Most people are gonna raise their eyebrows at a medium where seeing panties of high schoolers is common place.

Doesn't help that the community itself seems to be really invested in that side of anime. Just look at the memes, like half of them are basically porn = funny.

-Ryu said:
Sexualizing women and children is a pretty legitimate reason to hate anime, though. I mean, sure, not all anime do that, but it's pretty baffling how pedo-friendly this medium is compared to any other, and even when a female character is actually good, most anime still won't let a chance of sexualizing her pass by, it feels jarring when it happens in otherwise very good anime with well-written female leads.

marchlion said:
Once you're stuck at home because of a pandemic and seemingly ran out of things to watch, you're desperate enough to try anime again.

marchlion said:
I had the movie Kimi no na wa sitting on my Netflix list for months because though it was highly recommended, my prejudice that it would turn out to be weird and boring stalled me. But one night, frustrated about a Western animation movie I had just seen and hated, I thought Your Name. couldn't be worse than that.

Well, I was stunned by the beautiful animation and moving love story. I didn't know that anime could be that good?!

Boobsftw said:
It's cringe and sexualizes women and children

-Ryu said:
Sexualizing women and children is a pretty legitimate reason to hate anime, though. I mean, sure, not all anime do that, but it's pretty baffling how pedo-friendly this medium is compared to any other, and even when a female character is actually good, most anime still won't let a chance of sexualizing her pass by, it feels jarring when it happens in otherwise very good anime with well-written female leads.

-Ryu said:

Isn't it more likely that people who consume anime that heavily sexualize women are porn addicts? At least that's how it is in my circles, some weebs I know seem unable to view anything without becoming horny.

LostSpectre said:
Should underage sexualizations of cartoons actually matter? I'm only talking about moral arguments, not whether it can impact the quality of the work. I get it, if you aren't accustom to anime, then you may have an adverse reaction to seeing underage characters being sexualized, and then you need to use the rational part of your brain and realize these cartoons have very little to do with actual human beings. Also, what anime did you have in mind with that last statement, just curious.

_anisthist said:
1. It sexualizes women too much (Where is the female fan service?)
2. "Anime is for kids."(Who is not familiar with this?)
3. They don’t like animation. (Some people just don’t like animation and prefer things with real people (3D) instead of 2D characters. can't say I blame them)
4. People are really dramatic about everything. (They might as well not watch any TV drama series. )
5. Because the characters are UNREALISTICALLY perfect. (Gotta hate it when Kirito 999 arrives at the last minute and saves the day)
6. Fan service(Hell, even erza is not safe from this)

-Ryu said:

At this point I've grown numb to that kind of thing myself, but I can understand people taking issue with it. Recently, one of my friends felt uncomfortable watching Summertime Render because, according to her, it seemed like a fairly decent series, but there was a lot of random fanservice and she just lost interest in it after a couple of episodes, it's like how a lot of male anime fans get put off watching Free because it has a lot of fanservice with the main characters' bodies being shown off in clearly lewd ways as they get ready to swim, try out new clothes and stuff like that. I haven't watched Summertime Render yet, so I'm not sude how much fanservice it has, but the most recent anime with good female charactes that I found the fanservicey moments to be kinda jarring was Dorohedoro, when those scenes happened they felt strangely out of place to me.

LostSpectre said:
I mean, is there any reason it's a problem to enjoy such things or find them funny? Last I checked people don't get up in arms about you supporting mass murder if you say that you like the John Wick films. I don't care if one subject makes someone more uncomfortable than another, hypocrisy is still hypocrisy.

Mirai said:


I mean, people definitely do get up in arms about people enjoying stuff like Call of Duty. Might not be as prevalent nowadays as people crying about anime tiddies but they're out there. There will always be someone who takes issue with problematic things being depicted in fiction.

DarkInsomnia57 said:
Not for any of the reasons listed, no one ever considered those as important at all in any way. Sorry, gen Z.

Nah, it's because a lot of it is trash to fit a young teen demographic. That's why.

For one Evangelion we get millions of high school nothing stories. It's always made for a younger demo to cash in the biggest profit. So nobody takes it seriously, because it doesn't see its audience as mature.

The pedophile hysteria has no part in this at all. Usual Twitterleftisttards.

It's just because most shows are bad for elementary/middle school money. Japan is trash so Japanime is trash. End of story.

If they had more shows like say, Yu Yu Hakusho or something, with more of a mature bent like western animation, it would be more respected. But that's the way it goes.

Like, I don't like Disney that much, but Into the Spider-Verse caters to all audiences at once. They got all the demos locked up. Most Japanese anime feels like it was shoved out for kids for a quick return. It's just low grade trash. Nothing interesting happens.

The ideal anime is a sci-fi seinen with big tits and legs, and hard men with muscles fighting with swords. Unfortunately, anime falls short of the Vagabond/Berserk standard more often than not and falls into a reductive Akihabara-style. Middle school nerds. Horny young men.

It makes a lot of seasons (winter/spring/summer/fall) unwatchable. And if you get a big decent seinen like Lupin, nobody will watch it and it'll shit the bed.

It's tiresome. For one Cowboy Bebop we get endless high school trash and isekais. It's like a lot of Japanese assume there's no market in anime for more mature stories. Think of MHA and how garbage that is and how close it got to hype so many times...smiling happy overpowered characters all smiling and cheerful...what the fuck is that?

Why do we have to wait decades for a real show like Bebop about actual adult characters with mature philosophy? A cyberpunk, a gundam, a seinen, with real blood made for high schoolers and up.

It just makes the Japanese populace seem really immature on its face. What can you do?

And I assume all Japanese adults watch shows about tea sitting/drinking formality on tatami mats on a spring day, enthusing about how nice the weather is and respecting the senior populace. Grinning bullshit. Infantilism and old peopleness.

Sometimes you watch an anime and you can't believe it's the same country that produced Battle Royale or Takeshi Kitano. I guess Japanese adults won't watch animation or buy the dvds.

1ns0mnia said:
I honestly don't think it is anymore, and I think a little bit of hate is a good thing, keeps people in line, the amount of vile shit that goes on the anime and adjacent communities is cause for alarm.

Back then, in the early 2000s, if you watched anime people assumed that you were a failure and weird unless you proved them otherwise, it forced us to be exceptional people, even when other people didn't have to live up to that standard.

Now that anime is an accepted hobby, you have people that do nothing but exist in that space. Anime fans give anime a bad rep.

Between the cringe and borderline illegal behavior at conventions, otakus that do nothing but watch anime or play games all day, and other things that I am too ashamed to mention that happen in this community - I think a little bullying should be welcomed.

epidemia78 said:
Sounds to me like you're just upset you don't get more anime that suits your preferences.

epidemia78 said:
I don't know if having more big tiddy muscle women fighting with swords would improve anime's reputation with the population at large.

RitoDeviluke said:
I agree with you that it isn't really hated anymore, all of my friends watch anime and they are normal family men 25 years +. I think a lot of anime fans create self fulfilling prophecies where everyone hates them and they literally act weird as hell and do nothing but talk about anime all day everyday and wonder why people avoid them lol.

1ns0mnia said:


Agreed, a lot of people try to separate the content from the community, and it's like, that's not really possible. If you're in a community but you can't find like-minded people you like in the space - you're more likely to say "well, this thing must be an all around garbage thing" It seems that we have deviated from the original prompt which was about anime as an art medium and not as a community, but I think it's because people see that there are problems with the people in the fandom and that ruins it for everyone

GreiLugaj said:
Please avoid using reasons such as "it's cringe" or "sexualizes women and children", that's just generalizing.

LordSozin said:


That's why this freaking medium is cursed. With the recent rise in Pedophilia speaks volumes about it. Shield Hero, Mushuko, Assassin, and whatnot. Their favs and praise alone say enough.

LostSpectre said:
It says to me that those of you who can't differentiate between a fucking cartoon and a human being should probably stop watching fiction altogether.

IpreferEcchi said:
Uncultured swine socially conditioned by a few centuries of European religious fundamentalism imported by the U.S.

Japan was not tainted by it.

nutzboi said:

• It's animated, and animations are typically known to be for kids.
  
• Most anime characters have high-pitched voices, which also makes it sound like funny children cartoon.
  
• Many short girls, also lolis, which makes weebs look like pedos.
  
• Twitter.
  
• Fanservice (as someone else mentioned here), which makes people who don't think anime is for children think it's for horny kids.
  
• Weebs are usually too passionate about anime, talk about it a lot, watch nothing but anime, or are only into 2D girls/boys. Which makes them sound like maniacs or degenerates.
  

And I'm pretty sure you know all of that damn well but asking for the sake of debate or whatever. Man up dude, you know this topic is useless.