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Nov 20, 2020 3:51 AM

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Just send updates to Mion character page, about spoiler on it (which is not fact anymore, as on this episode we saw what we saw, madness + scratch marks on her neck)
GaichiNov 20, 2020 4:13 AM

"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai
Nov 20, 2020 3:58 AM

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If "Mion" (still don't sure if this was her or Shion), take K1 into "safest place" how Ooishi find him?
K1 wasn't n the torture chamber and he was unconscious.
Did Ooishi know about other room?

I think Rika killed herself and Mion find her dead and don't wanted to K1 see her like this, so that's why she called him.

that's why she freak out.
Nov 20, 2020 4:12 AM

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LittleStar said:
If "Mion" (still don't sure if this was her or Shion), take K1 into "safest place" how Ooishi find him?
K1 wasn't n the torture chamber and he was unconscious.
Did Ooishi know about other room?

I think Rika killed herself and Mion find her dead and don't wanted to K1 see her like this, so that's why she called him.

that's why she freak out.


It is the police. It make sense that they would search the area. It isnt exactly a hidden place.

It was clear in this ep that Mion doesnt believe that there is a real curse.
Nov 20, 2020 4:26 AM

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And very likely in next arc "Tataridamashi-hen":



We get deceived again :D
GaichiNov 20, 2020 4:38 AM

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Nov 20, 2020 5:08 AM

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Great episode!
I love the mysteries from this anime
B O C C H I  S W E E P
Nov 20, 2020 5:41 AM

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This was a nice twist, in the original Higurashi anime, Shion was the killer, but this time around, it is Mion.

However, I honestly prefer the original Higurashi anime over this one so far (and I do not think that opinion will change).

Nov 20, 2020 5:53 AM

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ssjokg said:
Jin_uzuki said:

She did, but this isn't Kai Rika, this is post Saikoroshi-hen Rika, who knows the value of friendship and miracles. Unless she's doing stuff behind the scenes, her behaviors feel extremely out of characters to me, it barely feels like she's trying. Heck, even in the original novel, before she gave up, Rika DID try a lot, even crazy plans like trying to leave Hinamizawa to hide in the woods. She didn't gave up immediately, she gave up because nothing worked.


And now she is in a world where the Rules that she so confidently claimed to know do not apply.

And since near the later parts of Kai she can only go back less than 2 weeks.

It isnt out of character to think she can fix things if she avoids the tragedies of the og kakera.

If everyone else is losing it while she puts focus on the people that she thinks will trigger a tragedy then she cant do much at all, especially without more info that she doesn't have.

And don't know about you but if, after all that struggle, I was sent back to relive it, now with new rules, I would despair as well. Unless something is happening to her, Rika is human, she has emtions and limits. It isnt ooc to lose it and bitch about it.

Unless we actually get her pov we can't really talk about her being ooc for being mad for losing another world.


She doesn't know the rules do no apply, she knows something is "off" because Hanyuu is not with her but she's still operating under the old rules: She thinks calming down Keiichi and giving the doll to Mion will "fix" things, but she also /should/ know that doing these things doesn't anything because they have little to do with her getting murderer by Takano in the end. Even in Rei's world, when she's throw back in the past, before she realizes it's a totally different world, she mentions how she'll have to gather everyone again to beat fate. As that other person said, the first thing she should have done is trying to pull a Matsuribayashi at least.

Heck, I would say her behaviors contradict her own stance in this very anime, given how she talks about beating fate in episode 2!
Jin_uzukiNov 20, 2020 5:56 AM

Nov 20, 2020 5:56 AM

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I love these episodes that end with "EVERYONE DIES".

Just gives me soo much nostalgia of watching the original series.
How gruesome and traumatic watching this as a teenager was.

AWESOME EPISODE.
I wonder whose arc is next... Shion?
RIP Shion...
Nov 20, 2020 6:14 AM

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ItzElite said:
Lol Just realized that the class teacher is a parody of Ciel from Tsukihime.
(In the credits it says special thanks to type-moon)

In the All Cast Review of Ch 4 in the VN, Chie uses black keys to murder Keiichi in the dark lol.
Nov 20, 2020 6:25 AM

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Can someone explain to me what's going on?
In the fourth episode, they were all dead except Kei and Mion, and then like they went back so we see what happened, but it's going to a different way Mion has to stay alive.
I am completely confused!!
Nov 20, 2020 6:27 AM

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houssam_04 said:
Can someone explain to me what's going on?
In the fourth episode, they were all dead except Kei and Mion, and then like they went back so we see what happened, but it's going to a different way Mion has to stay alive.
I am completely confused!!

Aternate Timelines/World Reset.
It will get explained near the end of the series.
Nov 20, 2020 6:35 AM

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ArcueidBestGirl said:
houssam_04 said:
Can someone explain to me what's going on?
In the fourth episode, they were all dead except Kei and Mion, and then like they went back so we see what happened, but it's going to a different way Mion has to stay alive.
I am completely confused!!

Aternate Timelines/World Reset.
It will get explained near the end of the series.

ohhh I get it now
thanks
Nov 20, 2020 6:36 AM

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Nov 20, 2020 6:55 AM

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Jin_uzuki said:


She doesn't know the rules do no apply, she knows something is "off" because Hanyuu is not with her but she's still operating under the old rules:


We are fighting over my wording now? Hanyuu isnt with her, Rule Y is broken as far as she knows and while Rule X still happens, it throws her off guard because either multiple people are affected by it or the key event that would avoid that doesnt actually help. Many people already theorized that would happen.

Jin_uzuki said:

She thinks calming down Keiichi and giving the doll to Mion will "fix" things, but she also /should/ know that doing these things doesn't anything because they have little to do with her getting murderer by Takano in the end.


It is meaningless to confront her if even one of her friends are dead or crazy. We dont actually know if she did anything else apart from warning her friends. For better or worse we arent following her perspective.
Jin_uzuki said:

Even in Rei's world, when she's throw back in the past, before she realizes it's a totally different world, she mentions how she'll have to gather everyone again to beat fate. As that other person said, the first thing she should have done is trying to pull a Matsuribayashi at least.


And how will she do that if Rena is already L5, Keichi is half way there, the twins have different issues to deal with etc etc?
Jin_uzuki said:

Heck, I would say her behaviors contradict her own stance in this very anime, given how she talks about beating fate in episode 2!


We have only seen what she does in regards to the MC we are following. We dont know if she even tried to do anything else. Some people theorize she did. But,to repeat myself, it is pointless to face her killer and escape her death if even one of her friends are dead. Hell, in Kai she struggled for nothing else other than EVERYONE being saved, including her killer.

Again, being mad that things go south isnt ooc.
Nov 20, 2020 7:15 AM
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Wow No OP & ED, we got full 24 min of the drama and mystery...

The classic Ladder scene is back once again...

Things changed so much even after watching the OG, i've no idea who did it...

Wait, is that a scratch marks on Mion Neck??? 🤔
Nov 20, 2020 7:26 AM

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LittleStar said:
If "Mion" (still don't sure if this was her or Shion), take K1 into "safest place" how Ooishi find him?
K1 wasn't n the torture chamber and he was unconscious.
Did Ooishi know about other room?

I think Rika killed herself and Mion find her dead and don't wanted to K1 see her like this, so that's why she called him.

that's why she freak out.

A couple of things

Nov 20, 2020 8:21 AM
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did satokok plant a devious trap how the hell does she kill anyone
Nov 20, 2020 9:30 AM

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This was pretty obvious I think from the episode because she was barely in it and didn't get brought up at the end, but the aftershow (https://www.onsen.ag/program/higurashi#) confirms Rena survived this arc.
Nov 20, 2020 9:42 AM

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FlamepriesT said:
A couple of things



Oh, right...
Ooishi at the end said that Rika was brutally kill...



Nov 20, 2020 9:54 AM

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Gar_Logan said:
This was pretty obvious I think from the episode because she was barely in it and didn't get brought up at the end, but the aftershow (https://www.onsen.ag/program/higurashi#) confirms Rena survived this arc.


A shame that we westerners(well most of us) have no idea of this.
Nov 20, 2020 10:22 AM
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I might be looking too deep into this, but during the conversation there's a point where Keichi and who we believe is Mion are talking about the town, and how everyone comes together against a threat.

Keichi says this: "Right... Like when those punks were threatening me" https://prnt.sc/vmzzyz

Mion says "that's right"

I don't think Mion knew about the bikers? If she didn't, the reply "that's right" seems a bit... off
Nov 20, 2020 10:31 AM

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I just loved that Mion confession. Honestly, I'm genuinely lost as to how different this ark is. Like, wow! Can someone explain the differences for this episode as compared to Deen?
Nov 20, 2020 10:41 AM

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SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said:
I just loved that Mion confession. Honestly, I'm genuinely lost as to how different this ark is. Like, wow! Can someone explain the differences for this episode as compared to Deen?




There are more but these are the main ones I think.
Nov 20, 2020 10:50 AM

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ArcueidBestGirl said:
SPIDEY_rockzzzzz said:
I just loved that Mion confession. Honestly, I'm genuinely lost as to how different this ark is. Like, wow! Can someone explain the differences for this episode as compared to Deen?




There are more but these are the main ones I think.
Damn...... GOU is really spinning the wheels like anything. Thanks for the explanation.
Nov 20, 2020 10:55 AM
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FlamepriesT said:
random_weirdo said:




Yeah, there's a ton of stuff to take into consideration.



Nov 20, 2020 11:50 AM

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We just have to wait for the next arc to get some confirmation about Satoshi. I really hope they dont avoid the issue again.

Nov 20, 2020 12:32 PM

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A very dark and sad episode.

It was nice to see the ladder scene brought back and it was creepier in my opinion.

It seems Keiichi keeps surviving these incidents and is left to hear what happened and remembering everything shocked.

It was a very nice arc and well concluded. I kind of like how the arcs have more mystery when they end.

My question is where is Rena??? did I miss something?? or is my memory just bad??
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Nov 20, 2020 12:39 PM
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Bantarific said:
Might've missed someone else mentioning it, but at around 15:45 there's this dialogue:

Mion(?) - "That's the spirit of community that binds us villagers together."

K1 - "Right, like when those punks were threatening me."

Mion(?) - "That's right."

I'd say that definitely implies she was there, but it was supposedly Shion who helped him. Could certainly have been Mion just taking her sister's shift, or she could've heard it through the grapevine, but it stood out to me since Mion supposedly wasn't there but she seemed familiar with what happened. Also, right after the punk scene, Shion(?) goes on a long rant about the spirit of community and how great it is. Just some food for thought.

Personally, I'd say Yamainu are 100% involved and it wasn't Mion killing everyone. Too many discrepancies (scratches on Mion's neck despite her not scratching before, swapping the gun, being spotted at the school, showing up in the security cams, watching Mion and K1 in the mirror of the car, etc) and them being around all the time to just write it off. Someone else mentioned Satoko being the villain this time and I'm starting to buy it given how she was acting trying to incriminate K1 out of nowhere and disappearing during the festival.

We also have to account for Tomitake and Takano's sudden flight after the festival. Given who they are and what they know, what could spook them so much that they'd steal a car and just drive off?


Nov 20, 2020 12:55 PM

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My theory is that at the end of this Higurashi anime, Bernkastel and Lambdadelta will appear and after that they will announce the remake of Umineko No Naku Koro Ni
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Nov 20, 2020 1:04 PM

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Unpopular opinions: Bad episode (likely worst so far) and I still prefer the Deen ladder scene for some weird reason.

Getting mildly hyped for the next arc tho, gotta see what Passione did to my man Teppei.

ssjokg said:
Pretty interesting theory.

Indeed Satoko has displayed the capability to kill at least another kid before. The problem is that we are talking about Rika.

Before assuming that she is the culprit, Satoko being serious and antagonistic if something happens to Rika makes sense.



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The ending graphic shows ‘Mion’ dead, with her neck being clawed at, so if we assume that she’s

As an end note, I must give huge credit to Yukino Satsuki this episode. That was masterful voice acting during the ladder scene.

And I still wholeheartedly believe that keeping the original voice acting cast was the best decision this reboot has made!

I wonder if it's just a mistake of the animators, but I'm pretty sure that such wounds to the neck would bleed quite a bit. Ofc they could have been done post-mortem by a 3rd party (The gun is different too so hmmm).

Yeah I agree that the best decision (ofc it's by default in Japan) was to keep the old cast, tho overall I still prefer their previous results.
The cute voices 6-0 better in Deen, but the age and experience has brought them nice serious sound when needed.

Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids.
Nov 20, 2020 1:52 PM

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Gar_Logan said:
This was pretty obvious I think from the episode because she was barely in it and didn't get brought up at the end, but the aftershow (https://www.onsen.ag/program/higurashi#) confirms Rena survived this arc.

Ah damn, this word finding game

K1: Something Red... Is in Higurashi
Rena: BLOOD!
pimpompimpom

Rena so good in this.

Mion Nipaa~ <3
Also it's surprising how similar K1 sounds to Kuzuma on Konosuba Radio o_o

Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids.
Nov 20, 2020 4:39 PM

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so may dead already....really!?!?
4/5.


Nov 20, 2020 6:26 PM
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Hulio said:
Unpopular opinions: Bad episode (likely worst so far) and I still prefer the Deen ladder scene for some weird reason.


I can't understand. Just how?
Nov 20, 2020 7:03 PM

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Chie could get my Pie.

Also, this episode was underwhelming imo, and that hurts to say because this had everything I wanted in this series: A dead Rika and a focus on Mion. Only a dead satoko would have made this better, an earlier dead Satoko I should say lol But it was a meh episode in the end, so disappointing.
Nov 21, 2020 12:52 AM

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Wow this new higurashi is so bad
Nov 21, 2020 6:30 AM
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Question, was that really Mion or was it Shion doing the twin magic?
Nov 21, 2020 7:35 AM

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God Keichi is a buffoon. I liked the ladder scene more in the original. The face and weird lip synch made it so creepy.
Shoot first, think never.
Nov 21, 2020 7:43 AM

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There are too many weird things with this anime.




Also about Rika


About the clinic




And about Satoko
Nov 21, 2020 10:10 AM

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Such an intense episode! We need answers and also I feel like this time around maybe the real villain is either an Umineko villain (Because of that silhouette in the op) or maybe a third party (Other than Takano)
Or heck maybe even Hanyuu is involved in some bizarre way.
Nov 21, 2020 10:35 AM

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I don't like that they explained that something supernatural is definitely going on in episode 2 but also people that love this series also seem to love to spoil it so I don't know, it's a wash I guess. Inevitable, almost.

I've been enjoying this season, Higurashi is written so compellingly, but I've been let down by one particular aspect: the endings to these new arcs.

I think it's because there's a lack of personal tragedy.

The new series is missing that scene of Keiichi sadly despairing, "why did this have to happen" after killing his friends. Then, after mutually agreeing with Ooishi that there are no such things as curses, at the end he driven mad and tells him in a dramatic scene where Ooishi is trying to get a patrol car to him right away that he does believe in the curse, and that he believes Ooyashiro-sama is behind him.

In the new series you do kind of get that scene of him remembering the past him and embracing Rena when he opens the door for her, but it's less dramatic.

Similarly the new series doesn't have "Mion" telling Keiichi that there is a demon inside of her and that the demon will win, but Keiichi telling her he forgives the Mion inside of her and being spared.

They wrote things differently, with less tragedy, and it just hits different. Man I'm glad we got a new season though.
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Nov 21, 2020 1:19 PM

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So the arc ended after 4 episodes as expected. Ladder scene was good, but it wasn't scary like the 2006 version. At least K1 doesn't die in this arc...
Nov 21, 2020 2:08 PM
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Dang im confused.
So the green haired girl mion killed her sister and the blue haired girl?
Why did she do that .
She locked up the main character was she gonna kill him too?
And from my understanding next episode everything is going to reset
Nov 21, 2020 2:57 PM

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So the arc ended after 4 episodes as expected. Ladder scene was good, but it wasn't scary like the 2006 version. At least K1 doesn't die in this arc...
That doesnt actually happen.
Nov 21, 2020 3:12 PM

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Ok so what the heck just went down? Are we gonna get explanations to these arcs at the end or is it just gonna keep us guessing.
That folklore at the start had me guessing Rika being the true demon bloodline after her change in personality. Also even at the previous arc Satoko and Mion were found dead together. Does the plot happen the same way every arc? Also who else were found at the well beside Shion?
Damn these traditions really make up for the goriest memories.
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Nov 21, 2020 4:15 PM

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PlayMaker22 said:
Hulio said:
Unpopular opinions: Bad episode (likely worst so far) and I still prefer the Deen ladder scene for some weird reason.


I can't understand. Just how?

By being... bad?
Both lacked feeling and impact.

I've seen some hints of these here and there on this season, but on this episode, not so much.

Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids.
Nov 21, 2020 5:04 PM
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This was a really good episode.

I feel like the series is not hiding as much from the audience as compared to the original question arcs. I liked how Keichi and Mion got to show more of their "true" selves in this episode compared to the first series. My only questions with this arc are about the Hojos. Why was Satako the one who confronted Mion? Why did Mion seem to know what happened to Satako's parents. Did Mion know what Satoshi did to his Aunt? Stupid Higurashi, why you always got to be so damn confusing.
Nov 21, 2020 11:37 PM

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Hulio said:
Unpopular opinions: Bad episode (likely worst so far) and I still prefer the Deen ladder scene for some weird reason.


Because the new one is stupid. In the old one Keichi was in danger of falling. In the new one he could have just jumped on the roof.
Nov 21, 2020 11:42 PM

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jTiKey said:
Hulio said:
Unpopular opinions: Bad episode (likely worst so far) and I still prefer the Deen ladder scene for some weird reason.


Because the new one is stupid. In the old one Keichi was in danger of falling. In the new one he could have just jumped on the roof.


I didnt know that jumping from a moving ladder is a safe thing to do. Who could have thought.

/s
Nov 22, 2020 12:03 AM

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ssjokg said:


I didnt know that jumping from a moving ladder is a safe thing to do. Who could have thought.

/s


It is amazingly safe.

Nov 22, 2020 12:05 AM

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Very safe:


Now i know that you never have,not once in your life, climbed a ladder.
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