| I've seen a lot of ignorant, sexist and just generally gross threads and posts on the MAL forums recently, which is hardly anything new or worth commentary. That said, I've recently noticed something unusual around this kind of conversation: people are increasingly speaking out against things that have long been accepted by MAL's userbase, things like sexism, homophobia, sexualization of children and fetishization of sexual assault. Speaking from my own interactions, I can say that over the last couple weeks, espousing feminist and pro-LGBTQ+ ideas in the forum has earned me more friends and respect than mockery and hatred. The hatred is still there, certainly, but it doesn't seem to be the dominant reaction to saying anything in favor of gender equality anymore. Now, it may very well be that what I'm witnessing here is merely an outlier, a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans in a short period of time, and, further, attempting to frame MAL's userbase and their ideologies as a microcosm of the greater scale anime community may be inaccurate. That said, I have to wonder if a genuine shift is occurring within the western anime community that coincides with anime's increasing mainstream awareness and popularity. Historically, western anime fandom has not merely been ostracized, it has been insular, which is to say that scorn and stereotyping of anime fans from the mainstream (largely based on ignorance of the medium) has led to an increasing indifference and contempt among fans for the standards of that mainstream. This is why you get some fans, say, applauding the rape scene in the first episode of Goblin Slayer for 'scaring off normies', and other fans going on about how awful American progressive culture is and how they hope Japan and anime is never influenced by it (spoilers: it already is). At some point, much of the anime community seemed to throw up their collective hands and go, "If the mainstream thinks we're creeps anyways, we might as well be creeps. To hell with it." There are, in fact, fans who don't merely accept this characterization, but embrace it with loud and ferocious pride. Unsurprisingly, though, the stigma against anime is diminishing. Fans of science fiction and superheroes faced roughly the same kind of stereotyping at some point, so it's inevitable we'd hit a point where anime entered public consciousness on a similar level. It's not hard to find someone wearing anime merch in public anymore, or to meet a co-worker who has a beloved show or two in common with you. No longer is anime seen as the exclusive fare of the basement-dweller, the man-child, the deviant. It seems that increasingly, the community is populated by people who like anime, but have not been driven (perhaps dragged?) so far into the shadows that they have lost touch with or rejected societal standards. Thus, an anime community where the rabid anti-femmes and incels are no longer the dominant voice, a community not merely of ideological conflict, but of diversity. Or so we can hope. tl;dr: The increasing mainstream exposure of anime may be leading to a community where the extreme sexist and homophobic views normalized by the anime community's insular nature are no longer normal, and if so, that's awesome. What do you all think? Could I be on to something? Have your recent interactions with other anime fans in the real world and online reflected more progressive ideas? |
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| I doubt it. The gaming community is much the same way in regards to incels and regressive attitudes while (correct me if I'm wrong) being one of the biggest communities out there. As long as anime continues to focus primarily on the straight male consumer, I'm not seeing a change in attitude from the community anytime soon. |
| I don’t know, I’d personally prefer an even balance of sexistist/homophobes and SJW/progressive cry babies. That way, the normal fans can have fun and good discussions while watching the war of other “””fans”””. In an ideal world, both of theses parties would cease to exist and everyone can live happily ever after enjoying whatever anime they want. |
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| Hm. I never thought of the anime community as homophobic, when in fact I’ve always found that many people have stayed away from anime because of the LGBT-related ideas quite a bit of it promotes. In fact, I viewed the anime community as exactly the opposite. I have a lot of memories of the anime community, maybe celebrating those ideas. Then again, I usually try to stay away from the forums and can easily tell how a thread will go by its title alone. Agreed on the stigma of anime diminishing. I remember a time where if you liked anime you were often seen as a weirdo, and ideas that you were homosexual. Though, once again, I speak only for myself and those around me. |
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| "a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans " people like you are literally the opposite of that. anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. |
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| "and how they hope Japan and anime is never influenced by it (spoilers: it already is). " how so? I've said this a million times, anime is the least PC thing out there. No anime would ever survive being made in America. It fails the diversity check mark, the gay check mark and the sexist checkmark. So far I have not seen anything change. Still only white people, still anime with girls with massive tits and half naked being sexualized, still very rare we see any gay people. We are lucky that they are far far away from us and don't listen to any of you clowns crying about this horse shit. Only way that garbage infests anime is if the catastrophic event of immigration comes to Japan. I'm pretty sure the Japanese know it is an awful idea and won't do it. Also anime is made for Japanese people, not to cater to other people, races and so on. Also anime isn't real. No one is getting raped or sexually assaulted when their tits are grabbed. |
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| I think it also has to depend on the anime/manga as well. More non-fetishing lgbt manga/anime is being produced now, which hopefully is changing the straight male anime viewers on lgbt relationships in anime. now we have things such as my lesbian experience with loneliness, given, bloom into you, our dreams at dusk and many others that go specifically into the topic PROPERLY and don't just use it for erotic pleasure or gross fetishation (idk like citrus or super lovers). because of this growing trend, it's slightly possible that younger creators will be a lot more progressive, and not just with lgbt characters. however, at least with the majority of people with mal, their opinions won't change until the mass media they watch starts projecting those ideals. japan is an incredibly different culture than ours, so the way they handle topics (like feminism) is going to be incredibly different as their primary audience is japanese people, not western. |
| Honestly while the content can be very progressive or very conservative depending on where you look i think the fandom as a whole has actually become more conservative in thier views as the fandom has become more mainstream. Just my thought on the matter |
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shenro said: "a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans " people like you are literally the opposite of that. anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. There's a reason we no longer use the racist caricatures that were in old Looney Tunes. They were offensive then and are offensive now, and for that reason don't have a place in modern media. |
| Personally I see a few flaws with this "progressive" way of thinking. Calling someone out for clearly targeting a specific group is fine. Calling someone out for being a dick to a specific individual or multiple individuals is also fine. But I'm not into the idea of potentially being shit on by a bunch of people just for occasionally making stupid jokes and random comments. Nor do I think people should be completely silenced for having potentially offensive opinions. |
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fuckgendo said: I think it also has to depend on the anime/manga as well. More non-fetishing lgbt manga/anime is being produced now, which hopefully is changing the straight male anime viewers on lgbt relationships in anime. now we have things such as my lesbian experience with loneliness, given, bloom into you, our dreams at dusk and many others that go specifically into the topic PROPERLY and don't just use it for erotic pleasure or gross fetishation (idk like citrus or super lovers). because of this growing trend, it's slightly possible that younger creators will be a lot more progressive, and not just with lgbt characters. Might I ask what is "properly" going into the topic of LGBT relationships? Any explicit sexualization could be seen as erotic, which both Citrus and Bloom Into You (episode 9) have. So what exactly separates the two? Is it that the sexualization in Bloom Into You is less frequent? And even then, Octave has a great deal of explicit sex scenes despite being seen as a progressive portrayal of lesbian relationships. |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: No one is getting raped or sexually assaulted when their tits are grabbed. Newsflash: Just because characters having that done to them aren't real life people doesn't make the ACT of grabbing someone's tits not sexual assault. Grabbing someone in a sexual place without their consent is sexual assault. Penetrating someone without their consent is rape. Full stop. Also, including things like that and portraying them as comedic elements that are played off for laughs shows viewers watching that maybe those things are funny rather than problematic. It normalizes the behaviour. If something is shown enough in media you consume, the behaviour becomes normalized. And idk about you, but I'm not super keen on the idea of having rape and/or sexual assault be normalized """comedic""" things. |
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| Wow, that's great. Absolutely astonished by the fact the vast majority of the anime community might not be extremely sexist and homophobic anymore. What a change lads, we made it into the world of progressivism. @Talim Well, no. Gags you see in animated TV series won't influence people to start groping people in real-life. Lack of authority and mental ilnesses do. |
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shenro said: anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. And yet you watch anime series filled with political conflicts and themes. Just admit it's not the politics you have a problem with, it's the politics that don't jive with yours, the ones that fight for better representation and push back against things like the portrayal and fetishization of young children, sexual violence, etc. |
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| God, I hope so. The crossover between extreme conservatives and anime fans is ridiculous. |
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Talim said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: No one is getting raped or sexually assaulted when their tits are grabbed. Newsflash: Just because characters having that done to them aren't real life people doesn't make the ACT of grabbing someone's tits not sexual assault. Grabbing someone in a sexual place without their consent is sexual assault. Penetrating someone without their consent is rape. Full stop. Also, including things like that and portraying them as comedic elements that are played off for laughs shows viewers watching that maybe those things are funny rather than problematic. It normalizes the behaviour. If something is shown enough in media you consume, the behaviour becomes normalized. And idk about you, but I'm not super keen on the idea of having rape and/or sexual assault be normalized """comedic""" things. LOL normalizes them. Heard this before. Probably one of the same people I've heard that said they read studies that sexualizing woman causes more rapes and assaults. It isn't real. Grow the fuck up. No one says oh someone in a cartoon is getting raped, i now think it is ok to do it. |
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Talim said: Also, including things like that and portraying them as comedic elements that are played off for laughs shows viewers watching that maybe those things are funny rather than problematic. It normalizes the behaviour. If something is shown enough in media you consume, the behaviour becomes normalized. And idk about you, but I'm not super keen on the idea of having rape and/or sexual assault be normalized """comedic""" things. What? What do you mean? What are you trying to say? |
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NickRedMachine said: Ain't that the truth. Few things have been sadder as an anime fan than stuff like the alt-right/anti-SJW types rallying around Vac Macaroni. I feel like anime's one of the few remaining internet subcultures where it's still sort-of okay to be a nazi, and I'd like to see that change as soon as possible.God, I hope so. The crossover between extreme conservatives and anime fans is ridiculous. |
| I'm a progressive boi alright, but I also like artistic freedom. I'm not of the opinion that fiction has a responsibility to be subject to prescriptivism, or reflect reality in an accurate sense for that matter. Of course for its perceived problems, it can and will be criticized, that's a given. But to grant those criticisms moral bearing and going on a crusade to rectify such 'wrongdoings' is just downright toxic behaviour as well as rather presumptous. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Talim said: Newsflash: Just because characters having that done to them aren't real life people doesn't make the ACT of grabbing someone's tits not sexual assault. Grabbing someone in a sexual place without their consent is sexual assault. Penetrating someone without their consent is rape. Full stop. Also, including things like that and portraying them as comedic elements that are played off for laughs shows viewers watching that maybe those things are funny rather than problematic. It normalizes the behaviour. If something is shown enough in media you consume, the behaviour becomes normalized. And idk about you, but I'm not super keen on the idea of having rape and/or sexual assault be normalized """comedic""" things. LOL normalizes them. Heard this before. Probably one of the same people I've heard that said they read studies that sexualizing woman causes more rapes and assaults. It isn't real. Grow the fuck up. No one says oh someone in a cartoon is getting raped, i now think it is ok to do it. Facts don't care about your feelings, my guy. Many studies have been done about this. Media alters the way we think. Just because you disagree doesn't make it less true. 😂 This is just one example. I'm not necessarily saying that people will see sexual violence and go out and do it. But seeing it constantly portrayed can significantly influence their psyche and behaviour. https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/child-adolescent-psychiatry/violence-media-what-effects-behavior |
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AnimeBW said: NickRedMachine said: Ain't that the truth. Few things have been sadder as an anime fan than stuff like the alt-right/anti-SJW types rallying around Vac Macaroni. I feel like anime's one of the few remaining internet subcultures where it's still sort-of okay to be a nazi, and I'd like to see that change as soon as possible.God, I hope so. The crossover between extreme conservatives and anime fans is ridiculous. We just don't get it. It's hilarious to put Hitler as your favorite person on your MAL list, and to contribute to people comparing anime avatars to red hats on social media! |
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ChartTopper60 said: Talim said: Also, including things like that and portraying them as comedic elements that are played off for laughs shows viewers watching that maybe those things are funny rather than problematic. It normalizes the behaviour. If something is shown enough in media you consume, the behaviour becomes normalized. And idk about you, but I'm not super keen on the idea of having rape and/or sexual assault be normalized """comedic""" things. What? What do you mean? What are you trying to say? Exactly what I said. I'm sorry you had trouble comprehending. Try again and get back to me. It's not that complicated, bro. |
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| I certainly hope not. I don't think it's any coincidence that anime in the west has gained in popularity as our civ becomes more "progressive". Last night, I took a break from Anime to watch the first episode of the latest season of Better Call Saul. The filthy, sweaty people and their criminal lifestyles reminded me of why I watch anime in the first place. |
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| If big bad Netflix with its big bad shows has its way, anime will be big badly gender neutral and big badly anti-traditional femininity. Beware! |
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epidemia78 said: And yet, one of the many reasons I was drawn to anime was *because* it took bigger swings at politics and representation in ways that Western media wasn't. So that theory of yours might need some reworking to actually be true.I certainly hope not. I don't think it's any coincidence that anime in the west has gained in popularity as our civ becomes more "progressive". Last night, I took a break from Anime to watch the first episode of the latest season of Better Call Saul. The filthy, sweaty people and their criminal lifestyles reminded me of why I watch anime in the first place. |
Talim said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: LOL normalizes them. Heard this before. Probably one of the same people I've heard that said they read studies that sexualizing woman causes more rapes and assaults. It isn't real. Grow the fuck up. No one says oh someone in a cartoon is getting raped, i now think it is ok to do it. Facts don't care about your feelings, my guy. Many studies have been done about this. Media alters the way we think. Just because you disagree doesn't make it less true. 😂 This is just one example. I'm not necessarily saying that people will see sexual violence and go out and do it. But seeing it constantly portrayed can significantly influence their psyche and behaviour. https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/child-adolescent-psychiatry/violence-media-what-effects-behavior Do I need to say lower crime rates in japan who sexualizes woman more than any other country and America which is not allowed to sexualize woman has plenty? Also why the fuck are you here watching anime? Go watch some diversity Netflix shows and high guardian spice. More up your alley. |
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AnimeBW said: epidemia78 said: And yet, one of the many reasons I was drawn to anime was *because* it took bigger swings at politics and representation in ways that Western media wasn't. So that theory of yours might need some reworking to actually be true.I certainly hope not. I don't think it's any coincidence that anime in the west has gained in popularity as our civ becomes more "progressive". Last night, I took a break from Anime to watch the first episode of the latest season of Better Call Saul. The filthy, sweaty people and their criminal lifestyles reminded me of why I watch anime in the first place. So? You're just one of millions. Why someone looking for "representation" in media (which I assume means lgbt/non-white racial groups) would prefer anime where almost everyone is straight and white instead of western media where it is practically an unwritten law that at least one of the main characters be gay or trans...? |
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epidemia78 said: "Why would someone looking for "representation" in media prefer anime where almost everyone is straight and white"AnimeBW said: And yet, one of the many reasons I was drawn to anime was *because* it took bigger swings at politics and representation in ways that Western media wasn't. So that theory of yours might need some reworking to actually be true. So? You're just one of millions. Why someone looking for "representation" in media (which I assume means lgbt/non-white racial groups) would prefer anime where almost everyone is straight and white instead of western media where it is practically an unwritten law that at least one of the main characters be gay or trans...? ...Anime. A medium based primarily in Japan. Featuring primarily Japanese settings and characters. And you say "almost everyone in anime is white." You cannot possibly be this stupid. |
Self-insert male characters are overtly asian in appearance, for obvious reasons. 90% of waifus... not so much. Anime would not be anywhere near as popular as it is today if all the females looked Japanese. |
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AnimeBW said: epidemia78 said: "Why would someone looking for "representation" in media prefer anime where almost everyone is straight and white"So? You're just one of millions. Why someone looking for "representation" in media (which I assume means lgbt/non-white racial groups) would prefer anime where almost everyone is straight and white instead of western media where it is practically an unwritten law that at least one of the main characters be gay or trans...? ...Anime. A medium based primarily in Japan. Featuring primarily Japanese settings and characters. And you say "almost everyone in anime is white." You cannot possibly be this stupid. No one in anime actually looks Japanese. He means skin color. Giant tits which Japanese don't have, big eyes that are different colors and different hair colors. |
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| I sure hope so, that would be a huge step in right direction. Then I wouldn't have to be ashamed and embarrassed of being an anime fan. AnimeBW said: NickRedMachine said: Ain't that the truth. Few things have been sadder as an anime fan than stuff like the alt-right/anti-SJW types rallying around Vac Macaroni. I feel like anime's one of the few remaining internet subcultures where it's still sort-of okay to be a nazi, and I'd like to see that change as soon as possible.God, I hope so. The crossover between extreme conservatives and anime fans is ridiculous. Tell me about it, his fans are some of the worst that I ever had a displeasure of interacting with. They mass flagged my twitter account, falsely reported my MAL account and harassed me non stop. Anyone who uses the term SJW unironically should be ostracized from anime community. I blame youtube and unchecked alt-right propaganda for this. Alt-right ideology resonates well with incels and other right wing edgelords and younger impressionable audience in general that is way it should banned along with other types of hate speech and misinformation propaganda. shenro said: "a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans " people like you are literally the opposite of that. anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. This type of regressive conservative mentality represents a huge problem and obstacle in making anime more respectable and in line with modern progressive values. People who find sexualized children, rape and misogyny entertaining shouldn't be a part of anime community or any community for that matter. |
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Talim said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: LOL normalizes them. Heard this before. Probably one of the same people I've heard that said they read studies that sexualizing woman causes more rapes and assaults. It isn't real. Grow the fuck up. No one says oh someone in a cartoon is getting raped, i now think it is ok to do it. Facts don't care about your feelings, my guy. Many studies have been done about this. Media alters the way we think. Just because you disagree doesn't make it less true. 😂 This is just one example. I'm not necessarily saying that people will see sexual violence and go out and do it. But seeing it constantly portrayed can significantly influence their psyche and behaviour. https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/child-adolescent-psychiatry/violence-media-what-effects-behavior From the same site and updated: https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/trauma-and-violence/new-evidence-suggests-media-violence-effects-may-be-minimal Lmao what a clown world. Wouldn't be surprised if this massive hag of a OP recruited you. You're fighting to restrict artistic freedom because Japanese artists aren't progressive enough, right? Why do you have time to care about something niche that's not aimed at you not ''representing'' what you want to see. Explain that please. |
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| no, it will lead to the downfall of anime in the west. all because of the people in this thread who get offended at the sexualization, like shut the fuck up. if you don't like it then quit watching anime. |
HeruruMeruru said: epidemia78 said: Self-insert male characters are overtly asian in appearance, for obvious reasons. 90% of waifus... not so much. Anime would not be anywhere near as popular as it is today if all the females looked Japanese. Because as we all know, white people have spiky purple hair, dots for noses, and eyes that take up half their face. So you're saying all japanese people have spiky purple hair and dots for noses? |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Talim said: Facts don't care about your feelings, my guy. Many studies have been done about this. Media alters the way we think. Just because you disagree doesn't make it less true. 😂 This is just one example. I'm not necessarily saying that people will see sexual violence and go out and do it. But seeing it constantly portrayed can significantly influence their psyche and behaviour. https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/child-adolescent-psychiatry/violence-media-what-effects-behavior Do I need to say lower crime rates in japan who sexualizes woman more than any other country and America which is not allowed to sexualize woman has plenty? Also why the fuck are you here watching anime? Go watch some diversity Netflix shows and high guardian spice. More up your alley. Lower crime rates sure. But there are also women-only train cars in Japan because men can't keep their hands to themselves. Just cause there are lower crime rates doesn't mean everything is hunky dory over there. And lmao what? Women are constantly sexualized in media in America. Wtf are you on about? Any Carls Jr ad I've seen (before I stopped watching cable TV and religiously skipping ads at every opportunity) has women with their tits hanging out in an attempt to sell burgers. Sex(ism) sells. Here's a good example. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/04/26/headless-women-hollywood-blog-sexism-movie-posters/83538190/ Really not sure why you're saying women aren't allowed to be sexualized in America because that's just factually untrue. And I'm here cause I love certain types of anime. Anime is a beautiful artistic medium a lot of the time, and I've appreciated certain aspects of it since childhood. Not wanting sexualization in anime isn't because I hate anime. It's because I love it and want it to be better. |
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| homophobic views in the anime community? what lol. are you taking this from a few random trolls or generalizing the whole community? with how much homoeroticism there is in anime, you'd think there would be a heck of a lot of angry people if there's so much homophobic views going around.. women being objectified etc is as it always has been, and that's because of anime's demographic, thus i don't see it changing, mainstream or not. |
| @Talim yes because Anime fitting your beliefs and views is what makes it better. Get over yourself. Not everything is meant to appeal to everyone. The sooner people realize this the better off everyone will be. |
Talim said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Do I need to say lower crime rates in japan who sexualizes woman more than any other country and America which is not allowed to sexualize woman has plenty? Also why the fuck are you here watching anime? Go watch some diversity Netflix shows and high guardian spice. More up your alley. Lower crime rates sure. But there are also women-only train cars in Japan because men can't keep their hands to themselves. Just cause there are lower crime rates doesn't mean everything is hunky dory over there. And lmao what? Women are constantly sexualized in media in America. Wtf are you on about? Any Carls Jr ad I've seen (before I stopped watching cable TV and religiously skipping ads at every opportunity) has women with their tits hanging out in an attempt to sell burgers. Sex(ism) sells. Here's a good example. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/04/26/headless-women-hollywood-blog-sexism-movie-posters/83538190/ Really not sure why you're saying women aren't allowed to be sexualized in America because that's just factually untrue. And I'm here cause I love certain types of anime. Anime is a beautiful artistic medium a lot of the time, and I've appreciated certain aspects of it since childhood. Not wanting sexualization in anime isn't because I hate anime. It's because I love it and want it to be better. That is a old article. I've literally seen a article of an ad a few months ago that did that and cry baby feminazis like you bitched on twitter and they took the ad down. Also want to make it better? I believe you are in the minority in "sexualization of woman is bad" especially with the double standard of "half naked men = ok" Naked woman sell of course they are going to do that. |
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Talim said: shenro said: anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. And yet you watch anime series filled with political conflicts and themes. Just admit it's not the politics you have a problem with, it's the politics that don't jive with yours, the ones that fight for better representation and push back against things like the portrayal and fetishization of young children, sexual violence, etc. HeruruMeruru said: shenro said: "a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans " people like you are literally the opposite of that. anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. You watch Gundam yet don't want politics in your anime? The lack of self awareness is killing me. i'm talking about real life political bs that ruins anime, you absolute morons. AnimeFeminist said: shenro said: "a coincidental gathering of enlightened and reasonable fans " people like you are literally the opposite of that. anime is entertainment, keep your political bullshit out of it. This type of regressive conservative mentality represents a huge problem and obstacle in making anime more respectable and in line with modern progressive values. People who find sexualized children, rape and misogyny entertaining shouldn't be a part of anime community or any community for that matter. injecting "modern progressive values" won't make anime more respectable, it'll butcher it and ruin it for everyone else, just like every other time this shit infected something. newsflash buckaroo, most people don't like this shit or know little about it, don't act like yer the majority, cuz yer clearly not. also, you don't get to decide who is and isn't part of a community you twat, but i guess that's a bit hard to grasp for control freaks like you. |
| God, I hope not. Fandom police are the worst with their obsession to CONTROL everything that doesn't reflect purity culture. Screw them and their stupid PC bullshit. |
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