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Oct 29, 2018 12:35 PM
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basically the title

think about it, how many times do we hear about these drawers complaining about too many hours and low pay?

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Oct 29, 2018 12:37 PM
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Nike shoes aren't really that great quality.
Oct 29, 2018 12:47 PM
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Don't over-estimate yourself.

Slavery does not produce talented animators.
Usually the best animation is created by passionate workers who're also talented, not slave mass workers.

If someone need slavery to work extra hard, then they won't make quality contents that's for sure cuz they're forced to do so with no other choice/ regardless of their will. They'd only make passable quality as long as they fulfill the requirement, more like minimum wage job performance.
Oct 29, 2018 1:06 PM
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That's not true and rude to say. One of the reasons for it may be that the studios want to "save" money, so the higher rank will get more. That's not something new in this world. The minimum wage in Japan is really low (less than 1000 yen for an hour), and I won't be surprised if many drawers work for this lame salary because they want to do the job they like. There are other professions with hardly any profit (at least in some places) such as nurses and theater actors. Unfortunately, seems like it's one of those.


Oct 29, 2018 1:08 PM
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wewlad that hot take man

And yea, that's kinda pretty incorrect given One Punch Man, most Ufotable shows, and most Kyoto Animation shows, how they were some of the best-animated anime in their fields in this modern time, and how they were known for being passionately made, unlike say, most A-1 Pictures shows, which even at their best aren't as good as these shows on a visual level, and at worst are pretty bad.
Oct 29, 2018 1:09 PM
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hahahawheuaweh so witty, so creative, so hilarious haehauhweu get it? >slaves XDDDDD
Oct 29, 2018 1:12 PM
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Ventus_S said:
Don't over-estimate yourself.

Slavery does not produce talented animators.
Usually the best animation is created by passionate workers who're also talented, not slave mass workers.

If someone need slavery to work extra hard, then they won't make quality contents that's for sure cuz they're forced to do so with no other choice/ regardless of their will. They'd only make passable quality as long as they fulfill the requirement, more like minimum wage job perfromance.

I totally agree with what this guy said.
Oct 29, 2018 1:14 PM
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Bro, animators are already basically slaves



Don't worry about being lame now, you were always lame anyway!



Oct 29, 2018 1:15 PM
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....how would it rise
if anything it would be 10x worse
Oct 29, 2018 1:20 PM

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I think that that quality would decrease but it doesn't mean I don't agree that slavery and anime could mix. Think of how much low quality ecchi shows we could pump out every year if slavery was more prominent in the anime industry. It's really a shame that in today's society slavery has really gone out of fashion.
Oct 29, 2018 1:22 PM

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True the Japanese aren't as smart as we thought they were they could produce their anime in North Korea in exchange for high class cat girl octopus fetish porn
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Oct 29, 2018 1:24 PM
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I'm sure work conditions and no benefits wouldn't equal shit.

Kyoani is the optimal and ideal work space and the work they put out is way above most of it's peers.
Oct 29, 2018 1:31 PM
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It would be worse, have a look at the cheap stuff that comes out of Chinese factories, their communists that give their workers basically nothing, a common train of thought is that Chinese workers throw themselves from the top of their workplace too. That means you could lose good workers and well if their that desperate to get out of the job those workers have no passion. I don't have any passion for my work, everyone makes a bunch of mistakes every day. An entertainment/art medium has good quality only when people have passion for it.
A logical and on time peice of work can be satisfactory, but it won't be memorable
Oct 29, 2018 1:34 PM

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I'm very sorry to tell you, but slavery is still is a thing and people are OK with it. It's just a fact most people end up doing a job they don't like.
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Oct 29, 2018 1:37 PM

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Nah, slaves don't have any incentive to get better at their work they only have an incentive to complete it. As such animation would be garbage 100% of the time because it would only be the minimal work required. It would also be garbage at all levels because they'd still need key animators and character designers so again if their only incentive is to do the bare minimum it would be equally as bad.
Oct 29, 2018 1:50 PM
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This one's a big yikes from me boys...
Oct 29, 2018 1:52 PM

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Japanese animators are so underpaid they're basically slaves.
Oct 29, 2018 2:47 PM

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Timz0r said:
I'm very sorry to tell you, but slavery is still is a thing and people are OK with it. It's just a fact most people end up doing a job they don't like.
...excuse me what does one have to do with the other? there's no relation between both of these arguments
Oct 29, 2018 2:50 PM
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japanese animators are basically modern slaves already lol with their very low pay and long long hours of work
Oct 29, 2018 11:12 PM
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"I didn't know I was a slave, until I found out I couldn't do the things I wanted."

~ Frederick Douglass


As far as I am concern, animators receives low pay yet works for a long period of time, and most of them if not all produce quality anime.


That is because they are talented and passionate with what they do.


Having alot of laborers and working hours prolonged doesn't mean you can produce a quality outcome.

Without passionate and talented workers, you just simply meet the deadlines
Oct 29, 2018 11:20 PM

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slavery is good and all
but communism tho
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Oct 29, 2018 11:50 PM

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Zehennagel said:
Timz0r said:
I'm very sorry to tell you, but slavery is still is a thing and people are OK with it. It's just a fact most people end up doing a job they don't like.
...excuse me what does one have to do with the other? there's no relation between both of these arguments


It's not like the Japanese get payed well for the ammount of work they have to in order to survive that leads to thier decline in population and the fact it's pretty much the same in the west. But I can see you are enjoying modern slavery aswell, I see.
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Oct 30, 2018 12:02 AM

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That is a big YIKES from me. Good bait though you clearly drew attention.
Oct 30, 2018 12:15 AM

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The only way I could rationalise that title is that by existing back then would give people of today a grander understanding and appreciation of the art form that could improve anime being made today. Other than that it's an asinine take. Just look at the talent at KyoAni and the visuals from their shows, coupled with how they're treated and what their working schedules look like. Take care of your workers and in turn they'll be able to take care of the project
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Oct 30, 2018 12:44 AM

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Golden_Scarlett said:
slavery is good and all
but communism tho


yeah we all know
communism >>>>>> slavery
The dearer you hold a memory the more painful it becomes.


Oct 30, 2018 1:06 AM

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Yeah, it would rise.
But people will have to suffer just to improve quality of some anime which we won't even remember or care that much.
Oct 30, 2018 5:03 AM

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Timz0r said:
Zehennagel said:
...excuse me what does one have to do with the other? there's no relation between both of these arguments


It's not like the Japanese get payed well for the ammount of work they have to in order to survive that leads to thier decline in population and the fact it's pretty much the same in the west. But I can see you are enjoying modern slavery aswell, I see.
again, doing a job you like and being paid so badly you're basicaly a slave, are different things. don't@me if you don't have anything to answer.
Oct 30, 2018 5:08 AM

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I don't think quality would rise because you cannot garantee that slaves would be good at animating stuff you would just make it a lot cheaper
Oct 30, 2018 5:24 AM
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I think it wouldn't change something, because slave labor is already "OK" in 2018, it's just hidden by someone.
Oct 30, 2018 6:12 AM

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thats a dumb statement. Mistreating people reduces the quality of the work. Improper training reduces the quality of the work
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Oct 30, 2018 8:34 AM

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Zehennagel said:
again, doing a job you like and being paid so badly you're basicaly a slave, are different things. don't@me if you don't have anything to answer.


I really think you misunderstood me in the direction I was going, but whatever. You're still young and don't know how the real world works regards jobs and shit. I can say I have a carreer I like doing while using my knowledge I finally can use in a good way. But I also know there are way less people that can say that then people that can't say that. Trust me on this one. Most people just get a job that's available and politly nods there head like a machine. Most people know they can get instant replaced in less than a week if they don't keep up the expectations from thier boss. People that can land a job they like is way less common than you think. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.
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Oct 30, 2018 9:15 AM

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I mean............... no not really
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Oct 30, 2018 11:44 AM

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I think any possible response for this thread's question has already been given. I'm not entirely sure what context this question could be raised and be given a proper assessment without trolling or derailments, but this was not it.

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