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Oct 26, 2018 10:14 PM
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ever watched an anime/read a manga in which there was a character started out okay or good, but later on, he/she was ruined in one way or another?

In my opinion, sinbad from magi was a decent character, but then the final arc happened and everything good about him died.

Hakaze from Zetsuen no tempest started out great, but in the second half she was reduced to yoshino’s love interest (whyyyy)
Oct 26, 2018 10:16 PM
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Almost everyone in A certain magical index
Oct 26, 2018 10:16 PM
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Suzaku Kururugi is probably the most tragic case I've seen.
Oct 26, 2018 10:20 PM
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Suzaku Kururugi is probably the most tragic case I've seen.


I’ve seen so many hate him, but when I actually watched CG, I ended up feeling neutral towards both lelouch and suzaku. What did you like about him?
Oct 26, 2018 10:32 PM
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As a huge Naruto fan it's difficult to say this but Naruto did start to go to shit when they went with the whole child prophecy trope and also when he became Sasuke obsessed. It's like Kishimoto was purposely trying to ruin what started off as a fantastic character.
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Oct 26, 2018 10:37 PM
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I would say Light Yagami in Death Note. But it was on purpose to ruin him. Also a good example of ‘with great power, comes great responsibility’
Oct 26, 2018 10:37 PM
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Suzaku in Code Geass. Goes from an idealistic warrior with heroic intentions who is entangled with the wrong side of the fight and whose philosophical conflicts with Lelouch make him a profoundly interesting antagonist to a grim-faced, nihilistic Gary Stu with no clear motivation and little reason to root for or against him. Lelouch himself to a lesser extent.
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Oct 26, 2018 10:42 PM
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Let's see:

Yagami Light (Not only his personality, his intelligence got a deep delve too later on.)

Shu Ouma

Gilgamesh (He's great in F/Z but shit in FSN)

Sakura (Wait for Heaven's Feel lolz)

Obito (Seriously there's literally no reason to make him the main villain other than shock factor, just let it die. I'm not convinced about the later explanation too. It looks like last minute asspull and very forced )

A certain Yakuza boss in MHA (seriously his arc ended this early? Really? Back to boring League of Villains? What a wasted villain. I like his design too/ )
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Oct 26, 2018 10:43 PM
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Sasuke Uchiha started out intriguing enough but nothing of substance was done with his character and he was thus boring as shit. Oh, and as much as I fuck with DBZ, I couldn't really abide by one of the most entertaining characters from its parent series, namely Yamcha, being sidelined.
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Kazehaya Kamito I really liked him in the anime but after reading the LN I can't help but feel a strong dislike for him.

Also, Matou Sakura she was used to be my favorite Fate girl but after reading HF I can't help but hate her.

Well, I actually liked Suzuku from CG first but my like turned into a very very very strong towards him i can't help but feel disgusted towards him.
Oct 26, 2018 11:07 PM
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Yamcha, being sidelined.

Actually, that's virtually everyone from dragon ball. Everyone who was interesting, taught goku something or fought goku were entirely useless throughout z. The only use they were even in the saiyan saga was fodder, now anyone who doesn't rhyme with freeza is pretty much useless in super
Oct 26, 2018 11:12 PM

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Charioce from Bahamut Virgin Soul was a great antagonist in the first half, then the second half took a complete dump on him and everyone else from that series.
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Oct 26, 2018 11:24 PM

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The entire cast of Bleach it's the main offender IMO.
Oct 26, 2018 11:25 PM
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The main cast of Ergo Proxy - Vincent, Re-L and Pino - fit that bill perfectly.
You know what the best way to make interesting characters is? Give them the smallest bits of development and reduce their characterisation to, like, one or two traits as the series progresses.
Oct 27, 2018 3:29 AM
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so many that it would take days to type them all
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Hachiman from Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru.
In the first season he ruled and than came the second...
Oct 27, 2018 4:39 AM

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Danganronpa 3 Cast.
seriously all of the characters from previous installments got worse in that show.
Chiaki's Mary Sueness got turned to the max,
Nagito became just a luck guy (where previously he hated his luck and weaponised it),
Kirigiri basically lied to everyone
and Junko became a lucky villainess who Just used a stupid ass hypno video instead of a Joker like Intimidation and what not (as the games pointed to)(Whatever he did to Win over Harley)
Oct 27, 2018 5:05 AM

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aizen would be the first to come to mind
light yagami too is a disapointment(not as big as my life though)
Oct 27, 2018 6:17 AM
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Kamijou Touma. He was quite decent at the begining then it becames Garbage.
At least there is accelerator as a better MC!
Oct 27, 2018 8:22 AM

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Naruto Uzumaki:he start as flaw character then Talk no jutsu,Given powers from deux ex machine and his stupidty turn him to a garbage main character

Ken Kaneki:Start out as fantastic character one of best develop character for me.But after Half way of TG re happen He turn to a stupid,Idealistic moron and idiot who Value his shitty ideals instead of thinking logically and properly to solve his situation. Thus he become a garbage main character ruin by his own creators

Natsuki subaru:Start out as relatable and sympathectic but become more obnoxious,less sympathectic,idiot and brainless moron as series go on.

Sasuke Uchiha:Start out well being develop and complex character.But as series go on his emo increases where he keep switching sides and his changing personality increases to stupidty.
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Most of Naruto characters I think, especially Sasuke.


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Hachimaki, from Planetes. The second half of the series turned him from an extroverted jerk with a heart of gold to a Mopey McMoperson for the sake of "character development" (which was not a development at all, it was an abrupt change and it served no purpose in the story aside from Hachimaki is just an aloof asshole now).

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Oct 27, 2018 6:08 PM
*Maybe they're not the best written characters out there, but Sinbad, Judar and Hakuryuu from Magi were fun to watch before the timeskip. Then, the final arc just happened.

*Erza from Fairy Tail. Her personality and backstory were great but after that arc, she slowly turned into a horrible character with the whole plot armor/friendship bullshit.

*Most of Naruto characters, especially Sasuke.

*Saber is great in F/Z but sucks in FSN.

*Nami in OP. She started as an interesting character with a tragic past. After the timeskip, she just a fanservice character and nothing more. It's interesting that Robin is still amazing.
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Oct 28, 2018 1:42 PM

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Suzaku

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Shouko from Koe no Katachi. She wasn't necessarily great in the beginning, but she had potential. Why do I think she belongs here, because (other than one event in the movie that I won't mention because of spoilers) she doesn't do anything or have much of a personality of her own. She could have been replaced by an object and the plot would not change much, since she served only as an interaction for the main character to, well, interact with. She didn't even develop all that much in the movie, unless you mention that one event, but even if that never happened, would it have affected the ending at all?
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Juuzou Suzuya from Tokyo Ghoul.
He was awesome in TG, the writer just stripped him of everything that made him interesting in TG:RE
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Suigetsu from Naruto/Naruto Shippuuden.

How? Why? and Nani?!!!


Also Erza to a (bit) lesser extent.
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Oct 29, 2018 1:39 AM

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Basically every Naruto character really
Oct 29, 2018 2:58 AM

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Casca from Berserk

It may not be her fault, but she's really not at prime
Oct 29, 2018 6:17 AM

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Ramy_Stereo said:
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Casca from Berserk

It may not be her fault, but she's really not at prime


Just out of curiosity, what does "prime" in this context mean?
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Eanki said:
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Casca from Berserk

It may not be her fault, but she's really not at prime


Just out of curiosity, what does "prime" in this context mean?


Well depending on wether you've seen the anime/read the manga...she's not really at her prime with anything is she? Prime as in peak form.
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Ramy_Stereo said:
Eanki said:


Just out of curiosity, what does "prime" in this context mean?


Well depending on wether you've seen the anime/read the manga...she's not really at her prime with anything is she? Prime as in peak form.


Well I know her fate in the anime, but I'm not sure how it applies to her prime-ness.
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Danganronpa 3 Cast.
seriously all of the characters from previous installments got worse in that show.
Chiaki's Mary Sueness got turned to the max,
Nagito became just a luck guy (where previously he hated his luck and weaponised it),
Kirigiri basically lied to everyone
and Junko became a lucky villainess who Just used a stupid ass hypno video instead of a Joker like Intimidation and what not (as the games pointed to)(Whatever he did to Win over Harley)


yeah wth happened with dr3. I loved 1 and 2 but I found the whole cast of three pretty unlikable whereas 1 and 2 had great casts. i didnt even finish it. very disappointing.
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Eanki said:
Ramy_Stereo said:


Well depending on wether you've seen the anime/read the manga...she's not really at her prime with anything is she? Prime as in peak form.


Well I know her fate in the anime, but I'm not sure how it applies to her prime-ness.


Sp after that happens..
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Ramy_Stereo said:
Eanki said:


Well I know her fate in the anime, but I'm not sure how it applies to her prime-ness.


Sp after that happens..


Oh. I thought she was horribly maimed afterwards or something. But given what she suffered, can't say that's not an illogical development the author could pursue.
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Eanki said:
Ramy_Stereo said:


Sp after that happens..


Oh. I thought she was horribly maimed afterwards or something. But given what she suffered, can't say that's not an illogical development the author could pursue.


Yeah the permanent damage done to her was mostly mental. though I'm not sure how she is right now because I'm not uptodate with the manga either.
Oct 29, 2018 7:03 AM

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Yagami light.
He started out awesome but after L died he just became a madman with a god complex
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Gon from Hunter x Hunter.
Arc after arc just make him seem like the most benevolent and kind person that has ever walked on earth (hell his best friend is a mass murderer) and then it seems like Togashi forgot about his previous development on chimera arc where he turns into a crybaby for like 5 episodes and went to shit in his face off against Pitou.
After that he goes back to his usual self and probably on future arcs he will repeat this same shit again.

Riuji from Toradora starts as a likeable jack of all trades and well its not like he changes but i got real tired of his neverendind kindness really fast.

Goku is kind of a shitty hero on Z but on Super he becomes retarded. It feels like even TFS Goku is smarter than Goku from Super.
He also keeps saying he wants to fight stuff and train and jesus christ. He is not even funny like Luck from Black Clover (who does the exact same thing).

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simonephone said:
Bourmegar said:
Danganronpa 3 Cast.
seriously all of the characters from previous installments got worse in that show.
Chiaki's Mary Sueness got turned to the max,
Nagito became just a luck guy (where previously he hated his luck and weaponised it),
Kirigiri basically lied to everyone
and Junko became a lucky villainess who Just used a stupid ass hypno video instead of a Joker like Intimidation and what not (as the games pointed to)(Whatever he did to Win over Harley)


yeah wth happened with dr3. I loved 1 and 2 but I found the whole cast of three pretty unlikable whereas 1 and 2 had great casts. i didnt even finish it. very disappointing.

Well thank god you didn't.

Hope arc (the conclusion) was even worse and the worst about it all is that it is canon...
The first anime had issues due to having to fit an 40hrs game into 13 episodes but the 3rd had the freedom and only had to adress plotpoints from both 1 & 2 game and thus pretty much not limited like the first anime and screwed it up even more.....

At least the Danganronpa V3 game was likeable.
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Shouko from Koe no Katachi. She wasn't necessarily great in the beginning, but she had potential. Why do I think she belongs here, because (other than one event in the movie that I won't mention because of spoilers) she doesn't do anything or have much of a personality of her own. She could have been replaced by an object and the plot would not change much, since she served only as an interaction for the main character to, well, interact with. She didn't even develop all that much in the movie, unless you mention that one event, but even if that never happened, would it have affected the ending at all?


Well, you need to watch manga to understand Shouko cuz the movie is actually kind of bad but Idk how anyone think it's good. (in terms of plot)
Just because of visual? Sigh..

The story and characters in the movie lacks logical connection and development because they squeeze 70 chapters into 2 hrs.
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Puck from Berserk: has been reduced to all but comic relief at this point. Sad because I quite liked his and Guts' dynamic earlier on in the series, where he acted as his sole anchor to humanity.

Dio Brando from Jojo's: Whatever semblance of depth and nuance he had in Part 1 was completely undone in Part 3, where he just became a one-dimensional cackling saturday morning cartoon villain.
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Itachi Uchiha, a great character who lead a desperable ending :'(
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Every Dragon Ball fighter except Goku. This seriously bothered me and it's why DBZ isn't in my favorites.
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Louis and Niall Horan from One Direction they pretty shit when they went solo
Nov 10, 2018 11:34 PM

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Light yagami (probably my favorite anime character of all time.....) was ruined in the later half of the show because he suddenly became a fucking idiot.
Nov 10, 2018 11:36 PM

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Every Dragon Ball fighter except Goku. This seriously bothered me and it's why DBZ isn't in my favorites.

I would say Goku was also ruined in DBS, I mean he was the only relevant fighter but most of the time when not fighting he behaved like a hyperactive child. And don't get me wrong Goku was never the smartest but in DBS you start to wonder whether or not he is mentally ill.
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That maid from Zero no Tsukaima, I really loved that character, then the second season came.

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