xXStephy92Xx said: Anyone know where I can watch eps 21-24 of Chrome Shelled Regios? It's been on hold now for like 5 years because halfway through ep21 the audio starts to fuck up and it runs like a good 7seconds behind the video which is NOT an ignorable difference and I can't find anywhere legally or illegally that streams it. Anyone got any links? Funimation should have this Not that you're missing much. That ending was a bunch of wtf. |
deg said: I don't think any of those folks working on HSG have ever been part of the Japanese animation industry. If there's any poaching, it's of the western animation industry, so this has no effect on labor supply in Japan.FireballKnuckle said: Only way i see Crunchyroll influencing pay is if they set up their own studio and try to poach animators for inhouse productions CrunchyRoll is kinda doing that with the controversial High Guardian Spice lol |
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| Another attack on Crunchyroll? And just after High Guardian Spice's trailer? Coincidence? I think not. Vent your misguided anger elsewhere, a company that is actually helping the community become more progressive should not be a target on anyone's trolling list. |
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| As a private company, Crunchyroll can invest their money where they see fit. They weren't in any way obliged to "support anime/animators" in any other way than paying licensing fees. "supporting the animators" is not technically a lie as through paying the license fees, you get money to company and thus support the animators. People who paid the subscription received the service so it is not "scam" either |
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xXStephy92Xx said: 4evaDC said: Funimation should have this Not that you're missing much. That ending was a bunch of wtf. Oooh SUB? Or DUB? Can't watch dub it makes my skin crawl the voices are never as good as the sub.... Both? Most of the time the sub is available for free with Funi. It's on their youtube channel, complete with the playlist. |
| Why are so there many posts with funny english here? I don't like crunchyroll myself but without them where would horrible subs get their shit from? |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
| What's the point of CR? If You want to pay for anime buy it from the creators. |
| Whether or not crunchyroll is doing what they promised with the animators is the least of their worries. They should spend some of that money investing in a more modern, less shitty platform. When the most bare-bones shitty pirate anime sites look and play better than your own site, and offer a wider selection at a better user experience, you have a problem. Their website = Shit High Guardian Spice? Probably Shit. I mean, What are they spending their money on anyway? |
| I don't really care about any of that "drama," to be honest. All I care about is that Crunchyroll is a terrible service. That's it. Between the flash player that they refuse to update, and the grand total of two and a half shows available in my region, I just don't see the point. I really don't care about anything else. I care about myself and my money, and that is going straight to anime merchandise and manga. Lots and lots of manga... |
| I agree with the scare quotes in the thread title. I'll believe in the validity of this HGS "drama" when Crunchyroll's actual business partners decide to terminate relationships or file breach-of-contract lawsuits. |
| Given my understanding of how anime is produced, the main reason why animators are paid very little is due to the anime production system. "Studios" pretty much hire freelancer animators to work on cuts for a set price. Studios have little incentive to give their animators a raise when they can simply pass over the animators asking for more money than the studio is willing to pay, since it's a freelance market and replacements can be found. This might not remain the case though; there's been some talk about animator shortages, so studios might have to start raising how much they pay simply because they might not even finish their episodes otherwise. I personally use VRV because it's convenient. I watch anime on the living room TV, which requires streaming to Chromecast. If I were to use an extra-legal site, I'd have to get out of my chair and run to the computer, go to the page for the next video, click the video, wait for it to buffer, start casting to the TV, maximize the video, and then run back to the living room to watch a show that is constantly buffering and at low resolution. Repeat every twenty minutes, and that's not even accounting for if I wanted to rewind to catch what was said. With VRV, I can sit in my chair with my phone, cast to the TV, pick what I want to watch, and I get seamless streaming at high resolution. So long as Crunchyroll/VRV remains more convenient to use than pirating, I'd imagine that it will remain profitable. |
e_hoba said: so... maybe I should change the question. How many people did think that CR would pay their money via an unconventional route, not the usual license fee? I mean, if you give 1-10 ratio, how many people thought so? plus, how important was the "supporting creators" issue in the whole CR drama? if you give 1-10 score I know how the industry works but here I want to know how people reacted, or if people really had that kind of complaints or not. I never heard of the idea that "Crunchyroll was paying animators" until Digibro's attack video, which was followed by back peddling. AFAIK, the whole idea is headcanon. Digi's first video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV3cVq_MuOQ Second video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhLrE7nfEY |
Pullman said: PLease, we had this thread already. This guy is a delusional person who denies the holocaust among other things. He provides no sources for his claims that Crunchy pretended all these things he says they did, like directly helping japanese animators. I'm pretty sure that never happened. Anybody who has any clue of how business works knows that a licensing company won't have any impact on the animator's wages in the country of origin of the products they license. That's just common sense, anyone stupid enough to think otherwise has only themselves to blame. And whatever the fuck the word 'charity' has to do with a business, noone except the delusional author knows. Crunchyrolln ever pretended to be a fucking charity. Basically, if you take a holocaust denier seriously, you're too far gone already. His relationship with the truth is obviously one where he doesn't care much about it and prefers making up his own alternate facts instead. So please, grow up and learn which people to take seriously and which to ignore. I dislike CR as much as the next guy, but it's really pathetic if you give holocaust deniers a platform and just unreflectedly buy every bullshit they say just because it fits your anti-CR agenda. If something is really bad, you don't need to make up shit and twist facts to make them look bad. You only hurt the credibility of the critics if you rely on such questionable 'sources' for the basis of your criticism. You probably read Canipa's tweet on the matter. Don't forget that he himself works for CR and ANN so of course he's going to defend them. Holocaust denier or not I find Yaginuma's claims entirely believable, considering that CR is owned by fucking AT&T (textbook example of a greedy, scummy corporation). Pointing out how much of a nazi he is doesn't take anything away from his words. -Lightsbane- said: All I care about is that Crunchyroll is a terrible service. That's it. Between the flash player that they refuse to update, and the grand total of two and a half shows available in my region, I just don't see the point. I really don't care about anything else. I care about myself and my money, and that is going straight to anime merchandise and manga. Lots and lots of manga... Exactly. I download most of the anime I watch but buy merch and blu-rays to support studios I like. |
| Crunchyroll sucks part 430529 We know it sucks. Granted people who argue it on the monetary side and CR itself are not transparent with their business practices so it's hard to guilt trip people with "Don't you want to save the industry pal". And like most people know. Nobody at CR except that idiot Miles who runs the shitty twitter even knows jack shit about anime. They're corporate fucks who want your money; I'm sure CR is paying and licensing stuff but I don't rag on anyone for not having a CR account if their reason for it is "why should I pay money for a system with bad practice" cause they are. |
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| A debate on Crunchyroll and its pros and cons, as well as criticism on its practices if there needs to be, is fine. Beating the dead horse again and again and bringing it constantly in endless attempts to discredit the site screams agenda. And a pretty shitty one if you ask me. So yeah, stop these threads and let this overblown controversy rest once and for all. It may even make your criticism look more reasonable. |
| Oh, about Yaginuma. The guy is a piece of shit. Better ignore him and bring somebody who matters to the debate, if there needs to be one. Literally anybody else is a better choice. |
jal90 said: Beating the dead horse again and again and bringing it constantly in endless attempts to discredit the site screams agenda. To be perfectly fair, Crunchyroll itself isn't exactly a stranger to pushing personal and political agendas on their users. Not that I have a problem with that, by the way. I just skip it. Doesn't really affect me in any way. But yeah, it happens. And it happens often. |
Barnald said: hum I think it can get big but it would have to go out of twitter, spread to youtube and over the whole comunity. just twitter isn't gonna do a lot indeed, but if it spreads it can have a big impact.I think that I don't care. Business that generates such profit isn't going to be influenced by Twitter drama, let alone my opinion. The most I can do about it is unsubscribe from Crunchyroll but hey, I wasn't using it in the first place. It won't destroy the website though. it can make changes but I think it's gonna be hard. |
-Lightsbane- said: jal90 said: Beating the dead horse again and again and bringing it constantly in endless attempts to discredit the site screams agenda. To be perfectly fair, Crunchyroll itself isn't exactly a stranger to pushing personal and political agendas on their users. Not that I have a problem with that, by the way. I just skip it. Doesn't really affect me in any way. But yeah, it happens. And it happens often. Of course. I'm talking about this controversy in specific. Talk about CR's practices and whether they are good or bad is welcome, bringing this talk again and again and making such a fuss of it, that is, feeding the controversy constantly and many times with unsubstantiated flame, transcends the serious approach to the matter and starts to look like a hidden agenda that tries to take down the site and/or affect its reputation for whatever reasons, and if I was less cynical about this matter I would happily ignore the political motivations they carry 90% of the time. |
| why the fuck are we bringing this back, pretty sure we had this thread a month ago or 2. |
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| Hahaha no. People only sign up for Crunchyroll so that they can get rid of the irritating advertisements and watch translated anime legally and it does a good job at that (at least the North American side of things). I don't remember it saying anything on the sign up form about nobly donating to animators that's BS. Even if it did this guy seems to think deals with TV Stations and anime licensing is cheap and CR would have a cash surplus after licensing most of the shows each season, which is clearly ridiculous. |
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| Even if this were true, I never liked CR to begin with so, meh. |
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| Crunchyroll is shit. I prefer DVD and Blu-ray than a site pretending to be legal. |
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| Why the hell does CR still exist? What's wrong with people? |
justcaolan said: Tomm01p said: I don't think it's worth calling other people "completely clueless" when you fall for such obvious baits. I'm not trying to bait anyone. I truly don't understand why us westerners would pay for anime when we can just let the japanese do it  >17 years old Consider me surprised |
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senorblu said: justcaolan said: I'm not trying to bait anyone. I truly don't understand why us westerners would pay for anime when we can just let the japanese do it >17 years old Consider me surprised what's my age have to do with anything? |
Your age age and the level of stupidity of your comment correlate perfectly with each other. There is nothing wrong with your age, don't worry. You'll grow up eventually. |
Only_Brad said: Your age age and the level of stupidity of your comment correlate perfectly with each other. There is nothing wrong with your age, don't worry. You'll grow up eventually. you say my comment's stupid and you can't even explain why |
justcaolan said: Only_Brad said: Your age age and the level of stupidity of your comment correlate perfectly with each other. There is nothing wrong with your age, don't worry. You'll grow up eventually. you say my comment's stupid and you can't even explain why Save this comment in a time capsule somewhere for 5 years then you will have your answer |
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justcaolan said: Because you have a history of trolling threads by posting shitty responses ragging on things for fun.Only_Brad said: Your age age and the level of stupidity of your comment correlate perfectly with each other. There is nothing wrong with your age, don't worry. You'll grow up eventually. you say my comment's stupid and you can't even explain why |
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| I stopped doing that after my 2nd ban. This is my honest opinion |
justcaolan said: I stopped doing that after my 2nd ban. This is my honest opinion Then you bloody well deserve a third for trying to push your agenda. |
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CherryLover said: justcaolan said: I stopped doing that after my 2nd ban. This is my honest opinion Then you bloody well deserve a third for trying to push your agenda. I'm not trying to push an agenda lol. I'm just giving my opinion on an online forum , if you don't agree with me then, even though your opinion's wrong I'm fine with that |
| I mean, who the heck would actually support Crunchyroll? |
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justcaolan said: I'm not trying to push an agenda lol. I'm just giving my opinion on an online forum , if you don't agree with me then, even though your opinion's wrong I'm fine with that He's just trying to push his own agenda here on MAL lol Daisetsu-Kun said: I mean, who the heck would actually support Crunchyroll? Humans, you know the species that are notoriously known for making not good decisions. |
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Pullman said: PLease, we had this thread already. This guy is a delusional person who denies the holocaust among other things. He provides no sources for his claims that Crunchy pretended all these things he says they did, like directly helping japanese animators. I'm pretty sure that never happened. Anybody who has any clue of how business works knows that a licensing company won't have any impact on the animator's wages in the country of origin of the products they license. That's just common sense, anyone stupid enough to think otherwise has only themselves to blame. And whatever the fuck the word 'charity' has to do with a business, noone except the delusional author knows. Crunchyrolln ever pretended to be a fucking charity. Basically, if you take a holocaust denier seriously, you're too far gone already. His relationship with the truth is obviously one where he doesn't care much about it and prefers making up his own alternate facts instead. So please, grow up and learn which people to take seriously and which to ignore. I dislike CR as much as the next guy, but it's really pathetic if you give holocaust deniers a platform and just unreflectedly buy every bullshit they say just because it fits your anti-CR agenda. If something is really bad, you don't need to make up shit and twist facts to make them look bad. You only hurt the credibility of the critics if you rely on such questionable 'sources' for the basis of your criticism. Is he popular? I don't know him. If he denies the holocaust happening then does he also think Japanese war crimes didn't happen? Even if what he said is true, nothing will happen if no one takes action. |
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